@@claytonwestfall San Fran Bay area. Lived there 4yrs. Literally got out of my car one day in the middle of the freeway in traffic to put the other guy in the hospital. I yelled at him for being an Audi prick, got back in my car and slowly went home to just take the day off.
interesting analysis : Would be great to have this analysis done directly by the comma website. Well done Logan ! These results are very motivating for the comma team !
Hey great vid ! Can you tell us how does it behave under following conditions: Rain Heavy rain Bright sun After a tunnel when the sun beam hits Wearing correction glasses Wearing sunglasses At night At night with rain When snowing And foremost do you trust the device ? Thanks man
I’d like to apologize... my first comment should have been “thanks for taking the time to share this with us...” “I like the driver monitoring” for me would have prevented at least two of my accidents. In my early days of driving 100s of years ago I had about (my fault) 1 rear end accident about every 2 years. Didn’t drink, I was just a bad driver... 20:54 “I got someone to get in front of me” - the ONE time you might half way appreciate some jerk cutting you off in traffic...
I seriously cant believe how GOOD this hardware and software solution is!! ABSOLUTELY KILLS OEM Driver Assistance systems from Bosch and Continental!! :O WOW. Gamechanger.
Nice video! I just got mine installed in my Honda Civic (after a little help from the discord) and will be driving Roanoke to Richmond weekly. Looking forward to the drive now!
I love my comma 2 Can’t wait for it to follow maps I’ve noticed if the sun is in your face it doesn’t recognize me paying attention had to turn off and on once On my 2017 rav4 I’ll try touching the wheel next time Wish my Cruise control went to 0mph
I don't think it will ever be done that way. The idea is probably to have a more contextual follow distance that the model decides based on the situation. Reality is that humans follow too close but I think they are considering improving it slightly. Eventually OpenPilot might have a few different "driving preferences" for people who want it to prioritize speed over fuel economy for example, but that is much further down the road.
“Humans follow too closely” - very true. Moreover, if your vehicle is not RIGHT ON the bumper of the vehicle I’m front of you, they’ll pass (to get maybe 12 feet ahead) and make obscene gestures. (Many) people are jerks when they get behind the wheel. I’ve got my new Corolla (waiting impatiently for my Comma two!!) and tried to drive using automation as much as possible. The car keeps a safe distance, but everyone takes that gap as an invitation to be a jerk. Funny, I’ve driven that way for years. I’m thinking back to 2 different accidents - that even ACC would probably have prevented, and Openpilot would definitely have prevented... in one case I was looking over my shoulder to change lanes to see if it was clear. When I looked up, the vehicle I was following (too closely) was gone - had changed lanes - and a broken down vehicle was there. Openpilot or even ACC would have stopped far sooner than I did most likely avoiding the accident. I “got out of there” immediately and pulled to the curb. 2 other cars hit the broken down one while I was waiting on the police to show up. OF COURSE the cops said “gee, I don’t see how you could not have seen that.”
I can change the following distance from my cars set distance button and can confirm it sets the same way as it did before I installed the comma two. The detection of cars cutting ahead of it on the streets and slowing down to a stop (in this video) is what my car is really bad at. I think its because of TSS-P vs TSS2.0
Didn't realize it can stop behind a lead car that is not moving at a light. I always thought the lead car has to be moving for it to follow and then it can stop when the lead car stops.
Choo Choo MotherTrucker If OpenPilot is controlling cruise then it’s very good at stopped car detection. If your cat is using stock cruise it won’t detect the stopped car in most cases.
Question on a tight turn with a lead car in front of you. My 2017 Toyota Prius two with C2 couldn't make that tight turn like yours. Is it normal? Do you have dsu plugged in or unplugged? My wheel never rotate over 90 degree at all, but only around 45 degree. Is it normal?
I think this is due to your car having one of the bad angle sensors found on most TSSP cars. A solution is to install a better angle sensor, the ZSS. You can check out more here: github.com/commaai/openpilot/wiki/Toyota-Lexus
I have a 2020 Corolla LE Sedan, so very similar setup with you (although I still have the old-school Eon). It does work amazingly well, BUT the Longitudinal distance is just too far for me to comfortably use it in anything other than "casual" highway traffic. The problem is with the cars going 80+ mph and the trucks going 60 mph and aggressive traffic. Thanks for the vid!
Can you do more of these videos? I subscribed to your channel because I have really enjoyed seeing this. I would be interested in getting this device but when I have ried to get some technical assistance found it's impossible. So anyway, I will look forward II you're doing more videos. Thanks.
So it does not help if you have blind spot assist, or Lane keeping assist or what keeps you the distance from different cars. I'm saying if you buy a car with these features does it have any value to how comma ai works
The software end is incredible. The hardware...well...... My Coma AI was in my car for just a little over a year. Worked fantastic....till one day it started to over heat. It shut itself down. Fan was not running. I unplugged it and contacted Coma AI. Told me it was the UNO board inside the head. My options are: 1. Spend $500 for a replacement head with NO WARRANTY....which means that if I install it and it breaks in a minute, I'm out $500.....or..... 2. Buy a new unit for $1200 with a one year warranty...which means that it could break down again after warranty and I'd be back where I am now. Don't get me wrong.....the idea and when it works is really great.....but...... having the car steer itself for $1200 and it breaks down after only a year.....well......I'm pulling it out and just driving like I did before. I can't justify spending another $500 or $1200 for a unit that just seems to not last. It breaks down to about $100 a month for as long as it worked.....not worth it.
Sorry to hear about that! Unfortunately we are still dealing with developmental hardware that is essentially a cell phone with some extra bits. I would say Comma does go the extra mile with offering a 1 year warranty which is very reasonable for an experimental development kit IMO. It just sucks when you’re right out of 1 year and issues come up. Also agree $500 and no warranty might not sound good to most people but still, better than nothing! I have tried to keep the mindset that I’m using experimental hardware and there is a a chance it will fail. Hopefully any failures can help Comma keep improving and making it more reliable!
What happens in the following scenario: You are headed towards a red light stop and are about 0.25 miles from the stop light but you can see that it's red, one car is already stopped at the stop light, there is a second car behind that stopped car going at 40 mph and you are behind that second car going at 40 mph as well but have your cruise control set to 50 mph and suddenly that car changes lanes. Will you car speed up to 50 mph and do a sudden braking to stop behind the first car stopped at the stop light or will it do a smooth stop without acceleration in between?
Depends on how quickly OpenPilot detects the lead car. Sometimes it will see them quickly and slow down comfortably, other times it may take a bit longer than a human would like. Still a lot of improvments to be made in longitudenal control but it's far better than the factory systems. Note that even Tesla warns that Autopilot may not stop for a stopped vehicle when traveling over 50mph in the owner's manual. OpenPilot is pretty reliable up to 50mph as well.
You mention it using just one camera in the phone, but doesn't it also tie in to the car's cameras? Great info on the driver monitor limitations, thanks.
Really good video, I love how you explain how it works, learned alot about it! You should do a similar video on the new Comma 3 😁 What are your thoughts?
Thank you for taking the time! It would be great if you keep it up, because it is important and if i may say that, you are very fair, when it comes to assessments. With the privacy thing, i think we should all make up our minds about that. George Hotz pointed out in some of his interviews a very understandable thing: If we step outside the front door we are actually in the public space. I mean, we want to be safe, want our kids to be safe and so on, but then again have problems with cameras and privacy. This cannot work both ways and we have to choose what we really want in the end. And if we would open up more, be more human, understandable, respectful and less judgmental, there would not even be a problem at all. I think the best way would be to transfer all mobile elements into something like comma's open pilot system. In the end we would faster have a better traffic situation over all, a better traffic flow, behavior and so on. I mean, it's right what you said about it's nagging you a little to much for your perception or your feelings, but it is what it is: A system that does never lie and does never try to be "nice", so it is just fair and right at that point. Humans are very much biased, a little to sensitive and therefore make things like that more likely to careful. A system will never do that, if you do wrong, it will tell you that you are, no matter what. Thanks again for this great insight and stay safe
Thanks for the content. It's been a a few months since last video. Any updates to the software since? Did it change the engagement metrics shared here towards the end of the video? Very interested in purchasing this product.
22:40, actually, remembering every single pass that an ai has made to any data set is exactly how machine learning works. Each pass is added to the model which makes the ai smarter.
For folks who don’t know...They’re referring to the in-vehicle logic- the car sometimes detects/sees the road sign speed limit and displays it on the dash. To use that information, hold down the “up” - I didn’t know and will definitely be trying it next time. Unfortunately too often the car doesn’t see the sign (weather, or too far away from the shoulder where the sign is generally located).
The device is interesting, but I see it more as a novelty. My vehicle has eyesight with auto lane keep assist as well as lane centering. To spend 1000.00 for basically lane centering in a vehicle that doesn't have it....I think it's a bit too pricey. No navigation and auto lane change? The device is just too limited with a cell phone driving the software and a single camera.
Actually, no. It's an actual AI that's driving the car vs just those lane assist stuff by itself. Also it's fully open source so you don't have to buy a comma 2 at all. A raspberry pi costs 30$ plus a screen and some cameras. Then you can add that second camera for better visibility
@@kevinkevin624 did you not watch the part where it turned the corner?... It stops with vehicles and red lights but as of now it can't read stop signs... But the beautiful thing about it is, it's still learning. It's constantly learning from every driver that has a comma 2 ...
@@LoganLeGrand more sensor data? I saw a 2019 tweet about big model showing a whole bunch more video data on the left on the right side of the image. This need how this driving software is progressing.
@@Gilotopia It probably won't. Open pilot won't automatically disengage like Tesla Autopilot will. Open Pilot only disengages when you hit the gas or brake on the car. In a roundabout, it would likely go forward for a short while then lose sight of the lines and continue to go forward into a curb.
Just placed an order for my 2019 Honda Civic and excited to try the product. Quick question, do you have to tap on the gas when you want to move from a stop?
I’m pretty sure you tap resume on steering wheel cruise control button. If you tap on either pedal, it disengages the system, regardless of car, AFAIK. If you are behind a car, it will auto resume when that car moved so long as it supports stop and go CC.
How much value would that add? I guess maybe some bmw or audi might be able to contribute some higher data rate sensor data, like side cameras or additional radar? CAN is probably fine for braking and steering purposes, yes?
Russell McGinnis they’re a little small, most Americans like big suv, big cars in general. But the corolla isn’t uncomfortable by any means, just not spacious enough
awesome video. The only thing i would add is that please mention that the stopped car detection, auto slow down or late cut-ins are detected by OP for your car only. It's not the same when longitudinal is controlled by stock ACC. users may think that their car is fully supported by OP (long and lateral) but that may not be case for every car.
Yes, you can wear shades. It basically doesn't do eye tracking when you have sunglasses on. It looks at head position and that does the job. It's pretty accurate even with shades.
Johannes Schmitz it’s comma’s Web based CAN analysis tool called Cabana. So you can use it with any data recorded with your Comma Two, or do live diagnostics when porting a new vehicle via a panda CAN transceiver Comma also sells.
I think that is where open pilot really would shine. For a longer road trip, it takes a lot of the fatigue out of driving for long periods of time, particularly on highways where the driving is quite monotonous. When I get my unit installed in my 2019 Camry, I am looking forward to taking a trip to Vegas. I live in socal and only about 3.5-4 hrs away and it's all highway so it would be a great test.
Glad I saw this. Still not worth it. You want the majority of your driving to not be something you want to think about. The majority of people that are trying to save themselves time are commuters and I am one who doesn't have time to nurse something like OpenPilot. I would want to focus on other items on my agenda than paying attention to questionable parts of my drive that OpenPilot can't handle like I would.
