OpenPilot vs Toyota TSS 2.0: How big is the difference? 

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Chris, have you got the Comma2 yet? If so, what do you think about it?

Honda system is different I believe. Honda’s lane centering(lane trace assist) work independently of Adaptive cruise control unlike others like Toyota, Subaru, Nissan etc. This has its own advantages and disadvantages. For example lane centering or assist turns off with a slight brake and you can’t many times depend on adaptive cruise control since it brakes hard many times especially if it detects front vehicles late in curvy roads and often speeds up to overcome small hills which gives a jerky feeling. Since Honda system is independent so you don’t have to worry about switching on if turned off. A disadvantage is it doesn’t has full speed lane centering as a result and it only works over 40mph unlike Toyota, Subaru, Nissan which works over full speed range if cruise control enabled. Don’t know why Honda is different despite all are Japanese automakers and using mostly same tech

Jesias full walkthrough install video coming in the next week or two!

Thanks! Comma.ai has a quick video on the car harness install that is pretty straight forward! I already did mine so not so easy to show again.

@@LoganLeGrand No worries, looking forward to more videos!

Check back in about 6 hours!

Auto resumes with TSS2.0 vehicles. No input from the driver needed!

I dont think it is better than nothing, the factory system does so little that it feels like a token gesture as opposed to a feature that is ever useful in real life situations. I'd rather not have it at all.

Yes I'm using black panda. Switching it in the settings is all you do plus you need to power cycle the vehicle which I do off screen and circle back.

Deitrick O'Rullian there are some differences but OpenPilot operates very similarly between them. If anything the improvement is a lot greater since those don’t even have an active lane keeping assist like the TSS2 cars.

I was definitely wondering the same thing - I've also got a '19 LE sedan with the 1.0 system. I noticed on the website they say it cannot accelerate below 20 mph, but I'm assuming it would still come to a stop? Then you would have to accelerate back up to 20 before it re-engages. Another note I saw on the Github for 17-19 Corollas is that the Automatic Emergency Braking is disabled.

I have a 2019 LE with OP. Works great.

AEB is only disabled if the DSU is unplugged on a TSSP Corolla. One would only unplug the DSU if they added Comma Pedal to allow OP to control speed directly. The follow distance that OP sets is so far back from the next car, I prefer to let the Toyota handle speed with the DSU plugged in as it retains the ability to adjust follow distance and keeps AEB active. OP only steers for me. Been using it like this for about 18 months. Its a great system.

I just bought open pilot. I'm glad to here how legit it is

You're still in control of your vehicle at all times. So insurance would always see it that way as well. Normal insurance claim would not change.

Personally it's not an issue for me. Since it displays what is in front of it you'd see anything obscured on the device itself.

Robosan4000 just for cloud storage as it’s also a dash cam

I have it for my of 2019 odyssey. I'll try to put up set and review video 📹 as well. My first video review and tutorial post 😉

Can the video of inside your car be seen by anyone in the cloud and your address will be in the video stored in the cloud. Id have privacy concerns.

You don’t have to disconnect the harness. I’m comparing OpenPilot here to the factory system.

mine dosnt seem to slow down in turns, I have the same car but 2021

Might take a little custom coding but I know a lot of people are using it successfully in Korea. Although I only know of TSS equipped Toyota's with lane keep assist and radar cruise control being compatible.

@@LoganLeGrand Can I install and use your autopilot on a vehicle without TSS 2.0? EX) TOYOTA MODEL [RAV4 4 or 4.5 ]

It replicates the factory messages where applicable. So you get the display for factory lane keeping, or the "take the wheel" alert when any alerts come up.

@@LoganLeGrand Taking delivery of a new Corolla in about a week here in UK. Seriously considering OP as I do quite a bit of motorway (highway) commuting a week! Touching the wheel every 13 seconds is going to get boring very quickly over the course of a 2½hr drive!

Are you from Arizona or something?

Yes! That's a comfy temp for me at home and in my car!

Theunis Potgieter it’s a single camera but takes in two frames so it can perceive motion over time.

@@LoganLeGrand Worth mentioning that it does it very well.

socksamazingchannel not currently.

Kentucky.

Not possible.

@@LoganLeGrand thank you

A couple members in the community have got it running on a manual 2019 Corolla Hatchback. Obviously limited to cruising speeds and won't work in stop and go.

@@LoganLeGrand That is more than I could ever ask for! Thanks for the reply

It’s an open source driving assist system developed by Comma.ai It uses the factory sensors and controls to provide a better system, more similar to Tesla’s Autopilot.

Honda Sensing in the 2018 Fit & Accord were both very sweet. The Fit was best for Lane Keep Assist (actually, the ONLY true centering vehicle when it came to LKA), but the Accord was best for stop & go and everything else. The 2020 Hyundai Sonata is the only competition to the Lane Centering tech in the Fit. But now that I know about OpenPilot.... opens up a whole 'nother world of cars.

grndslm Have you used OpenPilot in your car?

@@demetriosmorris9386 I have not. Just found out about OP a couple hours ago. :-) I've been test driving cars for the past couple years, waiting for a sub-$20,000 car that could mainly just keep me centered *and* resume from stop-start traffic scenarios. Still driving a 6spd manual trans because I couldn't find what I wanted in one package. I will definitely be getting OP in my next vehicle. 100%

grndslm The 10th gen Accord is your car then!! They offer the MT in the sport model, 1.5T and 2.0T. Combine it with OpenPilot, it’ll be smooth!

grndslm - Any experience with the CRV? I haven’t been able to find a good comparison between various Honda models showing exactly what their Sensing differences are.

Yeah, but it will also switch between tracing and follow up cruising without telling you, then try and follow the lead car out of the lane with no warning. I think my biggest complaint with the stock system is never knowing what it’s doing and constantly having to look at the dash to know if it’s working or not.

@@LoganLeGrand How strong is the torque? I have the first generation of TSS without tracing, but occasionally it confuses cracks or construction with lane lines and tries to drive out of the lane. The torque just feels like I hit a bump under my hands, if it didn't beep I don't think I would even know steering assist was working. Toyota's new hands-free system really shows how concerned their researchers are with driver engagement over comfort. It will disengage every few minutes even when there's no problem to force you to be ready to take over, which while annoying is IMO smart engineering.

Too bad u don’t trust. You’re missing out bro.

Braking is way better but accel varies a lot between vehicles but is faster than stock at least. The best thing is that OpenPilot is constantly getting updates and has a ton of area for improving cruise control with a machine learning based approach!

Haha clearly the driver is always responsible, but you can always try and tell him the computer did it!

💯 it sees alot of things like a human..it thinks better than us, For the most part.

quartytypo I’ve done hundreds of consecutive miles handsfree with OpenPilot. Definitely worth it in my opinion and only getting better!

@@LoganLeGrand Good video. I'm just going by what I saw in your video. Good luck.

Suppose to test the whole thing on different time of the day

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It is not really blocking your view at all since it displays what the camera sees, so it is not as intrusive as you might think

@@DigitalSteel yeah but its super ugly

What?

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