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How Much Proof Do You Need? 

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What would satisfy our need for "proof" of god.
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@drg8687
@drg8687 5 месяцев назад
Atheist: "Here are fossils, DNA, observations, comparative anatomy and embryology to prove we share a common ancestor." Theist: "But that doesn't prove anything. Now read this passage in the Bible that proves every claim about Jesus."
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
Hey, who needs data, sources, peer-reviewed research studies and robust scientific evidence when we have a book full of self-contradictory word salad about a magic invisible sky being?
@ApatheticFish3667
@ApatheticFish3667 5 месяцев назад
NEPy is going to find some batshit way to disagree with this.
@PittPens6866
@PittPens6866 5 месяцев назад
😂
@damonkenny3444
@damonkenny3444 5 месяцев назад
Demonstrate evolution requires no God or creative impetus.
@drg8687
@drg8687 5 месяцев назад
@@damonkenny3444 demonstrate a God exists or is even neccessary
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
Meanwhile, theists don't want to admit that there _isn't_ something bigger than themselves out there.
@GroundhogRoy
@GroundhogRoy 5 месяцев назад
Except in the case of Nipples the troll - there are bugs out there that are higher up the evolutionary ladder than him.
@tpseeker3367
@tpseeker3367 5 месяцев назад
​@@GroundhogRoywasn't long ago a Theist actually asked why haven't Spiders grown wings through evolution. What ever happened to holding kids back a grade/class. What ever happened to our Educational Systems. Ugghhh
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@tpseeker3367 I saw that video. That call was a hoot 😆🍿
@AzathothTheTrueGod
@AzathothTheTrueGod 5 месяцев назад
@@tpseeker3367The US doesn’t care about education as much as we care about validation.
@TheSnoeedog
@TheSnoeedog 5 месяцев назад
And *we're* (we atheists) the arrogant ones who need to "humble ourselves before him, and blahblahblah *ironagepriestmasturbatinginmymouth* blahblahblah" It's nonsensical. If any further evidence is needed, just consider: ...One fine day in Paradise, Clay Man's wife, Rib Woman, was tricked by the talking snake into eating the fruit of the magical tree. Because of this, the all powerful god (who knew it was going to happen anyway) had to create a mini-me 1/3 scale replica of himself to sacrifice to himself to act as a loophole for himself to forgive his favoured creation; which, created in his perfect image, perfectly (as he does all things)... naturally turned out flawed. *...an outrageous, melancholic parade of absurdity...from the first fucking verse*
@Corporate_Desecration
@Corporate_Desecration 5 месяцев назад
How much proof do I need? After this call, 150 proof 🥴
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 5 месяцев назад
saw some one with 150 proof hanging from the hairs of its but not really.🥴😆
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 5 месяцев назад
oh the Bible said oranges bananas trees blueberries and ostriches are proof. 🤔🤨
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 4 месяца назад
So, unbelievers must choose not to believe in an Almighty Designer Creator God/Jesus Christ because it doesn't fit who they are. Believers choose to believe the Designer, Creator of the universe exist because all creation screams there is an Almighty, Designer, Creator. That's who we are, believers in the truth, the evidence is right in front of our eyes. Life could never, did not and never will be able to exist without the Giver and Sustainer of life - Jesus Christ. John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not anything made that was made.
@jimbob3030
@jimbob3030 4 месяца назад
@@paulgemme6056 "Life could never, did not and never will be able to exist without the Giver and Sustainer of life " Then your god, which you think is alive, could not exist without a creator to explain it's own existence, and that creator couldn't exist without another creator before him, and so forth and so on. Your argument makes no sense. The logical fallacy, the failure of logic that you display is called special pleading where you claim no life could exist without a creator except this god life. It's an invalid argument.
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 4 месяца назад
@@jimbob3030 I AM, was, is and always will be. He is self-sufficient. That's the reason why he is Lord of the universe, Lord of all. One day every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. Those who know this (by Faith) are blessed with a peace that passes all understanding and an unspeakable joy. Nothing in this sinful world could ever come close to the blessing of knowing God/Christ Jesus our Lord, Redeemer, Savior, Friend. Without faith it is impossible to please God. Those who deny the truth (Christ) here on earth, he will deny before the Father in heaven. Religion will never save a single soul/spirit. Religious fanatics (the Pharisees) had Jesus Christ put to dead because they hated the message, that he taught - we are all sinners in need of the grace and mercy of God. To be saved no religion is need. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Knowing (by faith) and acknowledging that Jesus Christ is who he says he is - I AM! NO FAITH - NO GOD; KNOW FAITH - KNOW GOD AMAZING GRACE!!! Pride doesn't want God/Jesus Christ because unbelievers want to be their own god and make up their own truth. There is only one Truth, he walked out of the tomb on the third day and conquered death. Jesus Christ Lives and is the giver and sustainer of all life.
@randommemeaddict249
@randommemeaddict249 5 месяцев назад
I thought this caller was gonna be good. He was good at first. Listened to criticism. Then he said God can just do whatever he pleases and still be moral.
@Krikenemp18
@Krikenemp18 5 месяцев назад
And basically accused atheists of just wanting to sin when he didn't have any good answers.
@samhhaincat2703
@samhhaincat2703 5 месяцев назад
Mike is a total asshole. Wow. I knew he would be with his "none given" pronouns because that's always a huge red flag, but I didn't think he'd go the route that he did.
@Firestorm12345678910
@Firestorm12345678910 5 месяцев назад
@@Krikenemp18God creates the mushroom shaped competitive penis and then his son Jesus tells everyone that if they as much as look at another woman lustfully they have committed a sin in their heart-brains. God likes to be really tricky sometimes but definitely not contradictory in any way, shape or form.
@MrMattSax
@MrMattSax 5 месяцев назад
I love how exhausted he got when tasked with providing evidence to the claims he was presenting.
@AzathothTheTrueGod
@AzathothTheTrueGod 5 месяцев назад
They all do. They know they can’t demonstrate their god.
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 26 дней назад
@@AzathothTheTrueGod Jesus Christ/The Spirit of truth (Holy Spirit) reveals God the Father to those who really want to know him. those who are humble enough to admit they are sinners in need of his grace and mercy. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Read your bible, you will learn any truths, and the truth will set you free.
@AzathothTheTrueGod
@AzathothTheTrueGod 25 дней назад
@@paulgemme6056 Anyone can say that about anything. We have a group of theists that obsessively stalk us that lie constantly anytime they’re asked about their god. Being a Christian doesn’t seem to stop anyone from lying or being immoral/hateful. In fact it seems to magnify it in most. I’m glad it makes you and others feel good and I hope you use it to make others lives better. But surely you have to know that being Christian doesn’t make people “truthful” or good? If I say Azathoth shows himself to those who are intelligent enough to understand cosmic esoterica would you accept it?
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 25 дней назад
@@AzathothTheTrueGod Azathoth did not and cannot design and create a universe and then come to this sin sick world to suffer the consequences of sin, get nailed to a Roman cross, be put in a tomb and rise again to life to conquer sin and death. Only the one true living God/Jesus Christ could do and did just that. Plenty of witnesses. No other being could make that claim and have witnesses to prove it. Jesus Christ said he is the way, the truth and the life, no one will come to know the Father (enter heaven) but by believing (having faith) in the blood and the finished work that Christ completed on the cross. Born again Christians still do sin, yes, we do. Christ died once for all; all sins are forgiven. The only reason a soul now goes to hell is unbelief. When one rejects the free gift of God (forgiveness) then are choosing hell for their eternal home.
@AzathothTheTrueGod
@AzathothTheTrueGod 25 дней назад
@@paulgemme6056 Why not? No one has been able to demonstrate that any “god” created anything, how it did so, why it did so, or anything else about it.
@DJMaul1031
@DJMaul1031 5 месяцев назад
After all his posturing it still boiled down to "just believe and obey even if it doesn't make sense."
@Sal.K--BC
@Sal.K--BC 5 месяцев назад
If God actually existed, why would God hide itself? It just doesn't make sense! If God refuses to show itself, it's not my fault I can't believe in it. It's God's fault!
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, I've been wondering that. He's been hiding away and sulking about that whole apple thing for such a long time now; he's like a petulant child who's locked himself in the bathroom and won't come out until Mummy apologises for hurting his wittle feelings.
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
'If God actually existed, why would God hide itself?" It would be like buying a dog and never letting it know you exist....
@Beacon80
@Beacon80 5 месяцев назад
​@@t800fantasm2And then getting upset that the dog doesn't love you.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@Beacon80 Well, the dog tried to love him but when he wasn't looking, it ate an apple that he was saving for his lunch. Apparently he's never quite recovered from the trauma of that.
@kemest6666
@kemest6666 5 месяцев назад
Abraham said "they have Moses and the prophets" and if they don't listen to them "they will not believe even if someone rose from the dead". You guys will never listen because a bunch of evidences has been already provided and met your standards and if you do listen then you would be looking and searching for God instead of making podcast complaining about the "lack of evidence" and talking to ignorant Christians. Please I beg you search for God and never give up searching for him.
@Beacon80
@Beacon80 5 месяцев назад
Not sure which of Damon's arguments is sillier: A) Claiming that requiring evidence to believe in something is a fallacy B) Insisting that an example of how his argument is flawed is "seeking justification" C) "You can't prove that evolution _doesn't_ require god!"
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
Or... "absurd magical creatures" can't exist, but this other entity that can create a universe out of nothing, create man from a clay golem, makes a donkey talk, get she-bears to attack kids, that entity CAN exist because that's not an "absurd magical creature". And also, he doesn't commit special pleading fallacies. 🤦‍♂ And he claims that he can use inductive and deductive reasoning is an "evidence" to support not believing in the existence "absurd magical creatures". And when he says inductive and deductive reasoning, he means just making a claim that those things he doesn't like do not exist. But this other thing, a supernatural entity that does everything he SAYS it does, that thing exists... just because.
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
Damon is just a troll... He will never back up anything and if you say anything he insists YOU back up what you say.... He needs mental help and an education....
@nealjroberts4050
@nealjroberts4050 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, DK is only worth playing with.
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 5 месяцев назад
@@nealjroberts4050 I have an anthology of Limericks that I have written just for him! Loads of fun to be had!
@AzathothTheTrueGod
@AzathothTheTrueGod 5 месяцев назад
I think he’s an AI bot that just randomly makes assertions.
@violeth2255
@violeth2255 5 месяцев назад
If God created men incapable of understanding his reasons, that's on God. Either he lacked the ability to make us in a way that would allow us to understand (in which case that's God's fault), or it is literally impossible to create other beings that could understand God's reasons (in which case it is definitionally unreasonable to punish us for disobedience since we are incapable of understanding why his commands ought be obeyed).
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 5 месяцев назад
Yes! I regularly argue that an omnipotent god must be able to create beings able to understand his existence or else be able to do what is necessary to convince us doubters.
@KANOAH.Official
@KANOAH.Official 4 месяца назад
Right! I always said that if god made man incapable of understanding him, it wouldn’t be that he “works in mysterious ways”. It would be that we can’t understand him AT ALL. Not just from a “mysterious” standpoint. But from the context of understanding a divine being at all whatsoever.
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 4 месяца назад
@@KANOAH.Official Just remember that "divine being" is a totally human invention, an abstraction we created to describe in one simple-to-explain term everything we did not understand about the workings of our world. Lightning and thunder? A divine being. Earthquakes and volcanoes? A divine being.
@KANOAH.Official
@KANOAH.Official 4 месяца назад
@@stevepierce6467 I always hear believers say that “we just don’t understand him and his complex divine ways” to dismiss arguments that they don’t understand or know how to counter. My comment was my response to that
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 4 месяца назад
@@KANOAH.Official Sorry. I'm with you on that.
@tomellis4750
@tomellis4750 5 месяцев назад
Even a tiny bit of evidence would be a help.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
Hey man, there's the Bible, ok! Haha, only kidding. I almost kept a straight face there as well 😆
@user-hr8dx9qw4n
@user-hr8dx9qw4n 5 месяцев назад
Exactly. Charlemagne travels permanently back and forth between his imperial palaces in order not to lose control over his land and to make sure that his people follow him. A god isnt able to show up in a way that people can be sure they dont follow the wrong religion?
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
The way you define evidence makes knowing anything impossible.
@user-hr8dx9qw4n
@user-hr8dx9qw4n 5 месяцев назад
@@TheMilitantMazdakite Why? There are ways for a ruler to show up that people believe in and worship him.
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
@@user-hr8dx9qw4n That comment wasn't aimed at you. Many athiests have said that if God DID do that, say, an audiable voice from God, they would dismiss it as alien trickery.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
Who needs proof when we have fairy tales? Where do I sign? 🐑
@georgeaguilar6996
@georgeaguilar6996 5 месяцев назад
You don't have to...... you're on the menu already.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@georgeaguilar6996 A menu that includes word salad, if your comments are anything to go by.
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 5 месяцев назад
​@@georgeaguilar6996god likes sheep not goats
@csjrogerson2377
@csjrogerson2377 5 месяцев назад
@@georgeaguilar6996 I am pretty sure I'd taste horrible, so I am unlikely to be on the menu. However, goat or lamb is very nice and you can have them with word salad.
@roqsteady5290
@roqsteady5290 5 месяцев назад
If god created us without the mental equipment to understand him, whose fault is that?
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 5 месяцев назад
Bingo. You’ll also notice there hasn’t been a single intelligent post to counter your OP either.
@69eddieD
@69eddieD 5 месяцев назад
@@369spartan You have three eyes Ricky?
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
​@@jayrose8638 Because there have only been two posts responding to it, neither of which oppose it.
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 26 дней назад
@@TheMilitantMazdakite Jesus Christ/The Spirit of truth (Holy Spirit) reveals God the Father to those who really want to know him. those who are humble enough to admit they are sinners in need of his grace and mercy. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Read your bible, you will learn any truths, and the truth will set you free.
@ApatheticFish3667
@ApatheticFish3667 5 месяцев назад
Life mission: 1. Find all of NEPy's alts 2. Join the ACA 3. Ban NEPy from the RU-vid comment section for hate speech
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
4. Report all of Neppy's accounts for impersonating each other...
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
I would be happy if anyone can get it through RUNny's thick skull that posting RU-vid comments don't count as "debates". And that just because you posted to the AXP, you didn't "win" all or even ANY of the debates and you don't "own" the AXP.🤦‍♂🤦‍♂
@chuckhunter77
@chuckhunter77 5 месяцев назад
I will 100% believe in god as soon as he appears in front of me and personally apologizes for all the atrocities committed in his name, and all the sufferings experienced due to his inaction.
@Chocomunchie
@Chocomunchie 5 месяцев назад
We wouldn’t really have a choice but to become theists, if a god presented itself without a shadow of a doubt. But that does not mean we must worship or obey it.
@gandalainsley6467
@gandalainsley6467 5 месяцев назад
Be happy that God loves you and does not show up in front of you Chuck. A lot more things come with God showing up in front of you than just God shows up. Some good, most bad. You will learn a lot and your whole outlook on everything will keep changing. Some things will be forced upon you and those things are not the fun stuff.
@gandalainsley6467
@gandalainsley6467 5 месяцев назад
@@Chocomunchie Are you easily scared? I am curious. Hypothetically if demons started invading your private space would you be afraid?
@1eftnut
@1eftnut 5 месяцев назад
….AND punishes all those committing evil in his name or pretending to speak for him.
@1eftnut
@1eftnut 5 месяцев назад
@@gandalainsley6467Even hypothetically, demons aren’t real ffs🙄. It’s still a fairytale.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
Does anyone have a spare ironymeter? Mine broke when I read that comment below from the raving transphobe, atheophobe and homophobe Spartan calling someone a bigot.
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
Spartan is nuttier than squirrel poop
@TheSnoeedog
@TheSnoeedog 5 месяцев назад
Theist: "You can't explain the empty tomb!" Atheist: "Where is this tomb?" Theist: "But why else would it be empty?" Atheist: "Ok, let's grant that there *IS* a tomb, *AND* that it's empty....so what?" Theist: "How do you explain that it's empty?" Atheist: "There's no body in it." Theist: "That's proof that he resurrected!" Atheist: "If it's 'proof' of anything, it's at least as likely to indicate that there never was a body in the tomb...I mean, unless you're going to say that an empty hole is more likely to indicate the existence of a genie-containing lamp having been unearthed, subsequently (the genie) unleashed on the world and ushering in the manifestation of the Omphalos hypothesis, than it is that someone dug a hole. *(FULL STOP)"* Theist: "But scholars say that there was a Jesus, that he was crucified and resurrected!" Atheist: ".....uhhh....at best, scholars say there was a Jesus and he might have been crucified" Theist: "But the tomb is still empty!" Atheist: "Right....and so far we have no evidence that it has ever been anything *OTHER THAN EMPTY*" Theist: "But it says in the bible---" Atheist: "Holy shit! I've had enough of this merry-go-round; I'm sorry you're so broken. Theist: *"CHECKMATE, ATHEISTS!"* The moral of the story: *NEVER PLAY CHESS WITH A PIGEON*
@jaflenbond7854
@jaflenbond7854 5 месяцев назад
The Preachers and Teachers of the LIES and Unbiblical doctrines about "Trinity", "heaven and hellfire", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are obviously the Haters and Mockers of God and his Christ OFFENSIVE and UNACCEPTALBE to Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and all Haters and Mockers of God and his Christ is the TRUTH that lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 will definitely be honored and rewarded by the loving, kind, and merciful GOD with ETERNAL LIFE and existence on Earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4. All human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6 but OFFENSIVE and UNACCEPTABLE to Atheists, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and all Haters and Mockers of God and his Christ is the TRUTH that the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead" is the guarantee that all loving, kind, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as GOD's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
Theist: I won all my debates with atheists. Atheist: Oh yeah, then I'll debate you. Theist: What I meant was that I've made bunch of posts in the comments. Atheist: That's not debates, and how do you count it as "wining". Theist: i use a very objective process. I make the posts and no matter what the responses are, I count it as a "win". 🤦‍♂️
@TheSnoeedog
@TheSnoeedog 5 месяцев назад
@@queuecee you just made me blast chocolate milk out my nose, all over my (previously) sleeping dog. She's not impressed. 🤣🤣🤣
@sineaddwanson9294
@sineaddwanson9294 5 месяцев назад
@@TheSnoeedog The resurrection? What are the facts to be explained? 1. The execution of Jesus by the Romans during Passover near 30 AD. 2. His burial in the tomb by a member of the Sanhedrin, Joseph of Arimathea. 3. Discovery of the empty tomb by female followers of Jesus. 4. Individuals & groups of people seeing Jesus alive after his crucifiction. 5. All 12 Disciples who were eyewitnesses to thet deity of their friend for 3 yrs (Jesus) gave up their lives instead of denying the deity and resurrection of Jesus. KEEP IN MIND, that all 12 Disciples didn’t just tell you what they “BELIEVED.” NO, they told you what they had SEEN WITH THEIR OWN EYES. THIS IS TREMENDOUS EVIDENCE that all 12 Disciples had truly witnessed the resurrection of Jesus Christ. 20 centuries have come and gone and if there was no “Resurrection,” why is the life of Jesus be the most influential life of all time? Is it because all 12 disciples of Jesus inexplicably decided to chunk “Judaism and fabricate a resurrection story so they could fulfill their dream of being beaten, tortured and killed? No. The last one of the disciples, John the Revelator was put to death in a vat of boiling oil, but was miraculously preserved unharmed (“St John was brought to Rome during the reign of the Emperor Domitian, and was thrown in a vat of boiling oil, from which he was miraculously preserved unharmed” - Jerome). John the Apostle is said to have lived to an old age, dying at Ephesus sometime after AD 98. 6. One of the best pieces of evidence for the resurrection of Jesus was James, the brother of Jesus. James didn’t believe that Jesus was the Messiah. Later, as documented in The Book of Acts (12:1), James did come to believe in Jesus as the Messiah and even the Jewish Historian Josephus states that James was martyred for Jesus. James was martyred just 11 years after the Crucifixion of Jesus. Note: People give their life for abstract philosophy that they believe to be true, but nobody gives their life for a factual claim they know to be false. Ok, so then Then Jesus died. Now, here’s the question that skeptics ask-did Jesus stay dead? Again, think of James. If Jesus had stayed dead, here’s what you would have expected from James-to be sad and a little ashamed of his “crazy” brother Jesus. You would also expect him to remain an unbeliever. He would still not believe that Jesus is the Messiah - NOT EVER. But here’s the amazing thing-James came to faith in his own brother! Forty days after the tomb was emptied, on the day of Pentecost, we find Mary praying in the upper room with the rest of the disciples-and Jesus’ brothers are there, too! That includes James! > “They were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.” - Acts 1:14 There is James, praying and waiting with the other believers for the Holy Spirit. Later, James became the pastor of the Jerusalem church, a leader in the new Jesus movement (Acts 12:17; 15:13-21; 21:18; Gal 2:9-12), and even an author of Scripture where he humbly described himself as “a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ” (Jas 1:1). James from from skeptical brother to faithful bondservant. What a turnaround! What explains it? How do you go from being an unbeliever who thinks his brother is out of His mind, to being a leader in the movement proclaiming that your brother is Messiah? The best explanation for what happened is the one Christians celebrate every Easter-that Jesus really, truly rose from the dead. Paul the Apostle confirms that James, the brother of Jesus, saw the resurrected Jesus: “3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas (Peter) and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to JAMES, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born. 9 For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.” - 1 Corinthians 15: 3-9 If Jesus wasn’t resurrected by God and James didn’t witness that fact, then James would of died thinking his brother (Jesus) was crazy. He would NOT become a believer and the first martyr for the resurrected JESUS that he saw with his own eyes! NOTE: It’s completely unjewish for the Disciples to think that God would raise one individual person from the dead. Judaism is about all being resurrected in the end of time for “Judgement Day.” The resurrection is also very embarrassing to the Disciples. IF someone was going to make-up a resurrection lie, they would of bragged on themselves & say “I’m the only one that wasn’t afraid. I knew the truth all along, because Jesus confided in me.” Furthermore, since women weren’t allowed to testify in Court, no made-up story about the resurrection would of had women be the witnesses of the resurrection. There are multiple, independent eyewitnesses to the resurrection. These evidences don’t suggest that they can all be simply written-off as legend and ignored as a huge conspiracy between the 12 Disciples, the women at the tomb, the 500 followers, James and The Apostle Paul. FIN
@ApatheticFish3667
@ApatheticFish3667 5 месяцев назад
@@sineaddwanson9294 It's all in the bible, which was rewritten several times to make it easier to understand today. Ergo, we don't know what it actually says. Even so, who cares?
@RafaelKeveluk
@RafaelKeveluk 5 месяцев назад
For anyone who agrees with the caller on the last point about God having the right to destroy everything and everyone: You make a sand castle and then someone else destroys it -> Bad You make a sand castle and you destroy it -> Neutral Now let's add sentience as Jim was saying: You make a kid and someone destroys "it" -> Bad You make a kid and you destroy "it" -> Just as bad, arguably WORSE
@AzathothTheTrueGod
@AzathothTheTrueGod 5 месяцев назад
Once again someone who knows they can’t demonstrate their god, and assumes that people just don’t grovel with him because they’re bad.
@kurman4749
@kurman4749 5 месяцев назад
Is Mike aware of the fact that Dr. Bart Ehrman no longer believes in the existence of God? Yes, he does think there may have been a Jesus, but he doesn't believe in the resurrection or that he was the son of God.
@rickyhits6547
@rickyhits6547 5 месяцев назад
That doesn't fit Mike's narrative.
@arthurstreet2811
@arthurstreet2811 5 месяцев назад
No, he stopped listening when he heard that Ehrman believes a Jesus existed...
@sananton2821
@sananton2821 5 месяцев назад
He said it right in the beginning of the call. What are you listening to?
@dwp6471
@dwp6471 5 месяцев назад
Ehrman believes that a Rabbi who we call Jesus existed. A man who was fully a man not a god or Messiah. There were other faith healers and
@landsgevaer
@landsgevaer 5 месяцев назад
Caller Mike was able to convince me in just a few seconds that he himself exists and that he has many of the attributes he has. Our bar is not unreasonable high. If Mike can do such a thing, so should god. Trivially. (Let me make this point while AI isn't quite there to make convincing calls to call-in shows yet...)
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 5 месяцев назад
We are now at 77 days of “theists” failing to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings. Are we gonna reach 78 days of “theists” failing? Sure looks like it.
@jasons8479
@jasons8479 5 месяцев назад
77 days? More like thousands of years.
@rickyhits6547
@rickyhits6547 5 месяцев назад
Still no evidence.
@Mr_Rouge
@Mr_Rouge 5 месяцев назад
Shocking, isn't it?
@rickyhits6547
@rickyhits6547 5 месяцев назад
Not even a little. 😂
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
One man's coincidence is another man's evidence.
@starfishsystems
@starfishsystems 4 месяца назад
​@@TheMilitantMazdakite The plural of anecdote is not data.
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 26 дней назад
@@Mr_Rouge Jesus Christ/The Spirit of truth (Holy Spirit) reveals God the Father to those who really want to know him. those who are humble enough to admit they are sinners in need of his grace and mercy. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Read your bible, you will learn any truths, and the truth will set you free.
@smochygrice465
@smochygrice465 5 месяцев назад
Good Thursday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 🇦🇺👍😎✌️
@IsaacHarris
@IsaacHarris 5 месяцев назад
When the hosts point out that we're sentient beings with a right to live, the caller asserts the hosts just don't like the idea that God owns them and ignores what they're actually saying. Typical disrespect we get from believers. It's not about a petulant desire for independence or other atheist stereotypes. The caller is just making more assertions and ignoring the moral issues the hosts raise and jumping to what he thinks the real problem is.
@user-hr8dx9qw4n
@user-hr8dx9qw4n 5 месяцев назад
Charlemagne traveled permanently back and forth between his imperial palaces in his empire in order not to lose control over his land and to make sure that his people follow him. A god isnt able to show up in a way that people can be sure they dont follow the wrong religion?
@Krikenemp18
@Krikenemp18 5 месяцев назад
"Don't fall for Satan's tricks, he wants to deceive you!" "But also, believe anything that calls itself God without question!"
@user-hr8dx9qw4n
@user-hr8dx9qw4n 5 месяцев назад
@@Krikenemp18 LOL exactly. And satan appears in ways you wont expect.
@bulwinkle
@bulwinkle 5 месяцев назад
Turning water into wine is not a magic trick, it is an everyday procedure that my late Dad was good at. Anyone can do it.
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
I turn water into beer... and I've turned water into wine before....
@FernLovebond
@FernLovebond 5 месяцев назад
@@t800fantasm2 Oh, I do the opposite: I turn beers into water. ... Of a sort.
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
@@FernLovebondhahaha
@barneybiggles
@barneybiggles 5 месяцев назад
I turn wine into water, then I flush it away.
@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2
@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 5 месяцев назад
​@@barneybiggles dammit! I was going to use that joke! 🤣🤣
@2l84me8
@2l84me8 5 месяцев назад
A god does not have the right to take anyone’s life just because he’s god. This is how religious people dehumanize others by comparing our species to inanimate objects and said creator can do as he pleases.
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
Dude, don't cherry pick one dip**** you found.
@maxdoubt5219
@maxdoubt5219 5 месяцев назад
"How much proof do you need?" The very title shows a confusion between objective proof and epistemological substantiation. It's like asking, "How many times do you need it _proved_ to you that (X) [exists; occurred]?" Uhh, _proved?_ Just once! Duh! The better questions to ask are these: "Can you prove your god?" And, "Can you justify your belief in your god?" Objective proof can be demanded of anyone with a _personal_ god. But they can't discharge this burden so their claim to _know_ their god exists can be ignored. But such gnostic affirmers also believe. Even if they can't _prove_ their god, can they show that their _belief_ in their god is justified and not delusional? Yes, in infinite ways. If some theist prays to his god for the power to either float in the air; walk on water; run 100 MPH; move objects or start fires psychokinetically; see just fine through a blindfold or just correctly ID a randomly drawn playing card one out of ten times consistently - and they do that, this still wouldn't prove their god. But it definitely _would_ prove that they have acquired an extraordinary ability _and_ that their _belief_ in their god is totally justified. At least until some natural explanation is forthcoming. I can multiply such examples indefinitely. But ask any apologist to do likewise: name _just a few_ examples of hypothetical discoveries; observations; occurrences that would compel _them_ to admit that _disbelief_ is reasonable and what'll you hear? 🦗🦗🦗🦗🦗 Bias revealed! 😄Remember: Xians must keep their dogma compatible with any state of affairs whatsoever. But that which is compatible with anything is equally compatible with nothing.
@ApatheticFish3667
@ApatheticFish3667 5 месяцев назад
NEPy says he insults atheists for fun. Does he really think god won't judge him for that? Or is he going to apologise to god for it instead of us?
@ApatheticFish3667
@ApatheticFish3667 5 месяцев назад
This wasn't about you@@jaflenbond7854
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 5 месяцев назад
@@jaflenbond7854 Why are you so *LAZY,* Jaffles? The least you could do here is put some effort into tidying up the spacing of your copy pasta scripts of *SPAM!!!* "He also that is slothful in his work is brother to him that is a great waster" - Proverbs 18:9 "The sluggard is wiser in his own conceit than seven men that can render a reason" - Proverbs 26:16
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 5 месяцев назад
Considering his insults are childish, I guess it's a case of little things please little minds.
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 5 месяцев назад
​@@jaflenbond7854why?
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 5 месяцев назад
@@jaflenbond7854has failed to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods, vaguely defined creators, or other divine or supernatural beings.
@thomastrinkle2294
@thomastrinkle2294 5 месяцев назад
If Jesus was actually “notorious” the way the caller was saying, the Romans wouldn’t have let him be removed from the cross. He would have hung there until he rotted down to a skeleton and then his remains would have been tossed in an unmarked mass grave. They wouldn’t have let his body be taken down to be put in a tomb.
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
Exactly, the point of crucifixion was to discourage others from doing the same thing by making an example of them...
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
They used to call him The Notorius J.H.C. He was known for his rap, like when he rapped on the tombstone door for someone to let him out before his mourners arrived to check on him.
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
Maybe Jesus's followers would have stolen the body.
@thomastrinkle2294
@thomastrinkle2294 5 месяцев назад
@@TheMilitantMazdakite Not from a crucifixion site. Those actually would have guards.
@paulgemme6056
@paulgemme6056 26 дней назад
@@t800fantasm2 Jesus Christ/The Spirit of truth (Holy Spirit) reveals God the Father to those who really want to know him. those who are humble enough to admit they are sinners in need of his grace and mercy. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Read your bible, you will learn any truths, and the truth will set you free.
@meridianheights6255
@meridianheights6255 5 месяцев назад
Wow... That caller just said that god is evil, and he doesn't even realize how completely messed up that is. He was making sense and then went straight to "I brought you into this world, and I can take you out". 100% abusive, monstrous, immoral tyrant. Give me a break.
@sineaddwanson9294
@sineaddwanson9294 5 месяцев назад
Does God have the authority to play God? Then all you lost people can STOP with the "God is immoral" garbage for God taking life WHEN HE ALONE gave it in the first place. Does God owe you a certain amount of time on earth? Nope. Either God exists and you need to shut your mouth about him OR God doesn't exist and you have no rational or even possible explanation for what exists. God is the standard of good, so when he takes me out of this location through physical death and places me in the next location, it will be the right time to do so.
@nealjroberts4050
@nealjroberts4050 5 месяцев назад
​@@sineaddwanson9294 Thanks for proving the OP. Again
@Julian0101
@Julian0101 5 месяцев назад
​​@@sineaddwanson9294 Correct neppy, the euthyphro dilemma shows how your god is not good enough to have the authority to play god. As always, congratulations for debunking your own evil magical fairy.
@sineaddwanson9294
@sineaddwanson9294 5 месяцев назад
@@nealjroberts4050 Wrong. God is the standard of "good." Were your parents "evil" when they took the belt to your butt? No. You've sinned plenty in your life and sin = death. Let's face the facts, shall we? You're just another lost & clueless fool that thinks humanity came from star dust or something else equally ridiculous. But you have a 2nd chance. You weren't born to fit in; you were born to stand out. We don't want freedom to do what we want; we want freedom to have the right to do what we ought. Be saints. There is a point where evil must not pass. Evil is powerless if the good aren't afraid. We already read the last page and it says "God wins." I don't know about you, but I'm going to fight and be an overcomer of Satan, the world and with God's help, the flesh. I'm not just going to barely cross the finish line; I'm going to cross the finish line doing warp 13 w/ my hair on fire. NOTHING is going to stop me from going to heaven. STOP wallowing in your lost & cluelessness. Get w/ the program. START TODAY NEW!! I would say that you fail to understand exactly who God is. He wants to be sought after. Why? Because he's worthy of our pursuit. His awesome greatness is beyond your comprehension. You're breathing air that doesn't belong to you. Taking up space that doesn't belong to you. Given a life that doesn't belong to you. He brought you from nothing and you're nothing, YET you feel totally justified to raise your tiny stupid fist at him. THAT is what you are; never mind him. That said, Jesus loves you dearly & has shown you this love by bringing you from non-existence & giving you “the gift of life.” And did you say “thank you?” No. He also removed your doom via the sin of Adam by the suffering on the cross for you. And did you say “thank you?” No. He’s also “prepared a place for you in Heaven” if you’ll only return his love that’s already given you. And did you say “thank you?” No. Again, it’s the “love” of Jesus for people is what attracts them to Christianity. Your move, Chief.
@wyldink1
@wyldink1 5 месяцев назад
​@@sineaddwanson9294And yet you're wrong again. How is it possible for one novice to be so wrong consistently? Easy. He never learned anything. Like how to make a prophecy that won't fail in your lifetime, for example. But you did anyway, and ow you're reaping the consequences for your brazen lie. You just need to man up and face it.
@davenchop
@davenchop 5 месяцев назад
as iim and jmike stated.. even if a god did exist and it was proven .. it doesnt justify the atrocities that this entity has committed throughout history.. jim stated he should be tried for crimes against humanity which if you believe the bible is a 100% accurate statement
@cy-one
@cy-one 5 месяцев назад
That question is *always* irrelevant, because it always boils down to these two questions, which are just (consciously or unconsciously) rephrased to be less obvious: a) If there would be a powerful being that you think does not deserve worship, would you genuinely worship it? b) If there would be a powerful being that you think does deserve worship, would you genuinely worship it? Those aren't actual questions. If you like chocolate icecream and can eat chocolate icecream without a negative consequence, would you?
@thatguyrich9822
@thatguyrich9822 5 месяцев назад
I'd accept the following for the existence of a god: I want to see, live, in front of me, a paraplegic regrow a limb(s) within seconds. This should be easy for a god.
@sineaddwanson9294
@sineaddwanson9294 5 месяцев назад
Except Jesus never responded to skeptics or to Satan in the desert. "Something strange happened on the 25th of April 2019 at about 6:45 AM, I was leading prayer in the Mosque and a Light appeared inside the mosque, this light is brighter than the sun, but I didn't feel heat, I felt cold and peace at the appearance of this great light. A man spoke to me from the light in Arabic language to come out from Islam, I asked him, who are you? he said, I am the way, the Truth and the Life. I said, no, you are not the way, Prophet Muhammad is the way, he said I should listen to him because time has come, and he wants to use me to deliver my Muslim brothers from the Darkness of Islam to the Light of the gospel. I said if truly you are Jesus, I want to see you, he said I am not worthy or qualified to see him, not to even talk of hearing his voice. I said, but I am righteous, I fast every Monday and Thursdays, I don't fornicate, I give 15 Thousands Naira to the poor and orphanage every month from my salary. He said I am zealous but not according to knowledge. Then I asked him to tell me the things I do tell allah while praying, because the Quran say's, only allah knows the thought of every man. To my greatest surprise Jesus told me all the things I have been telling allah for the past ten years. Then I said, what do you want me to do now? he said, except a man be born again he can't see the kingdom of God. I asked him how I can be born again. He directed me to a church, he said I should go there and tell them I want to be born again. I went there and met a pastor and he led me to Christ, I left the church and returned back home. Besides, when Jesus disappeared I asked those around me if they saw the Light or heard his voice, they said they saw the Light but they didnt hear his voice. You can go to Daura central mosque and confirm this testimony, my father is a very popular Imam." God has revealed himself. God’s Word declares that he is a “spirit” that can’t be tested, yet you demand him to meet your standards ;) The problem is that it’s his way or hell. He loves you dearly, but God is also your JUDGE come “Judgement Day” where you will be judged on the content of the Bible. The Bible says that we know of God’s existence by what has been made (Romans 1:20) So much so, that we are “without excuse.” You're simply not worthy of our HOLY God's presence, due to your sin. Sin = death & sin separates us from God. Before Adam sinned, God walked w/ him in the Garden. God designed/created EVERYTHING PERFECT in “The Garden of Eden (Gen 1:31). Adam & Eve were immortal. But death/disease/bad things were brought into the world by sin: “Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned.” - Rom 5:12 Today, we have 3500 defects in our gene code, but there were none in the time of the “Garden.” The spiritually dead are enemies of God. 100 trillion yrs from now, you’ll either be in heaven or hell. You can read the Bible and trust it, or you can think you came from a MINDLESS moist rock and enjoy your TEMPORARY free will right up to the moment it expires at your last gasp on earth and then go to hell for eternity, wishing 100+ trillion times that you had never been born. Simple.
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
​@@sineaddwanson9294 Jesus probably wouldn't run scared from a debate. Also, he wouldn't just put up some written posts somewhere and run away and hide, then tell his disciples that he totally "won" his "debates" against the Pharisees.😂
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
HEATHEN! YOU DARE TO QUESTION THE LORD OF HOSTS?! 😡 Me too, mate. And I would pay to see that 😃🍿
@wwlib5390
@wwlib5390 5 месяцев назад
@thatguyrich9822 A lot of people DEMAND a miracle before they will believe - but the sad truth is, even a miracle will not convince those who are dead set against knowing or worshipping God, for their hearts are so hardened by the need for bread and circuses that unless they see glitz and flashy shiny objects there is 'nothing to see here'. Matthew 12:38-39 gives you Jesus' response to such shallow demands. Rather, seek FIRST the Kingdom of God and His righteousness and holiness. Come humbly and sincerely, for you deserve NOTHING from the Almighty but have already been GIVEN everything because of His great love for you. John 3 16 invites you to know His love and promise to you. THAT is your miracle.
@wwlib5390
@wwlib5390 5 месяцев назад
​@@sineaddwanson9294 I appreciate your testimony. You are evidence of what Jesus does - changes a heart and mind by His love and teaches Truth by His wisdom. May God bless you abundantly as you use these End Times to bring His love and message of life everlasting to those trapped in Islam and even as a continuing reminder to Christians as well. In Christ, peace to you.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
People don't want to admit there's something bigger than themselves out there, therefore there is something bigger out there? Nice circular argument 🙄
@georgeaguilar6996
@georgeaguilar6996 5 месяцев назад
Questions: Why do you all want evidence when it's clear that you don't like the idea of been subject to a God who governs with commandments? Shoot, you bearly obey your government. Will evidence change your behavior? will it make you humble?, will it stop you from commiting sexual immorality?, will it rid you of pride and arrogance? Will it keep you from cheating?.....People in the old testament era had plenty of evidence and still turn away to their old ways, it's clear that evidence cannot regenerate a wicked person. I know people who clearly perceive that God is real, yet they don't want to do anything with him......... and neither do you. This is my answer to all of this: It's clear from New Testament teaching that evidence is not the commandment but repentance as the Lord himself said: ‭‭Luke 24:46-47 “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and (repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all nations), beginning at Jerusalem. God will by no means give a hint of evidence to a people who rudicule, mock, laugh, and taunt who believe God to be dead and yet demand evidence as if God will grant such a demand from a sarcastic group. Jesus Christ said it clear that......."A wicked and perverted generation ask for a sign and no sign will be giving to them Luke 16:4 Your will is totally bent on unbelief and denial, you cannot scape it unless you are called by God to himself as it's clearly written: ‭‭John 1:12-13. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. If this doesn't happen to you....... you will continue here looking, like chasing the wind. Evidence you say.............no, it's not the commandment to christians. This channel exist only to laugh and mock. The last place one needs to look for God is an atheist channel. You all take care and be safe.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@georgeaguilar6996 Seeing as you're spamming the comments with pasted rants, I'll re-paste my previous reply to you: _It's fascinating to see how triggered you are by the fact that people who are being pushed to dedicate their lives to an invisible sky being are asking for evidence that he's real before doing so._ _By the way, you misspelt 'barely' and 'exists'._
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
@@georgeaguilar6996 "Why do you all want evidence when it's clear" Because until someone has irrefutable evidence of a God or gods, then they should not be trying to get other people to accept their beliefs and should not be trying to force their religion on to others... So they should either show evidence or shut up... " Will evidence change your behavior? " Nope... There is nothing in my behaviour dependent on a God or gods existing... Would you change your behaviour if you found irrefutable evidence there was no God or if it turned out to be a different god such as Odin, Zeus? , Horus? Quetzalcoatl? "Jesus Christ said it clear that. " Prove it... All you ave is a claim that is as lame as saying Zeus told people things at the Battle of Troy... " Your will is totally bent on unbelief" Nope... It's just a side note to my life... " and denial, " Until you have proof there is nothing to deny... "God is an atheist channel." It's not like any evidence exists on any THEIST channel... "God will by no means give a hint of evidence " That's because we don't have indoctrination leading to confirmation bias and self-delusion....
@damonkenny3444
@damonkenny3444 5 месяцев назад
I need proof for the atheist position of no God existing.
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
@@damonkenny3444 "I need proof for the atheist position of no God existing." No you don't... you just want an excuse to make a fool of yourself as you stupidly troll like an imbecile... Same as all the other times you posted the same moronic comment and showed everyone that you are no smarter than a dog turd...
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 5 месяцев назад
So Mike's god is a celestial Hitler. And creationists wonder why i wouldn't worship it if it was real.
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
What do you mean?
@carpenoctrem
@carpenoctrem 5 месяцев назад
I don't get the "there is no body argument". My grandfather died when i was little. He was buried in the family tomb. When my grandmother died 15 years later she was buried in the same spot. If there were bones there we did not see them. Should I assume my grandfather resurrected and is still shuffling around today?
@codyhelms2556
@codyhelms2556 5 месяцев назад
Yes, that is clearly the most viable hypothesis. Can't be that your grandmother might not have been buried in the exact same spot and just one that was nearby, so your grandfather's body wasn't unearthed, or that natural processes resulted in the decomposition of your grandfather's body to a point where it was unrecognizable as anything that was once human, THAT would be completely unreasonable.
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
Plus, grave robbery is a thing.
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 5 месяцев назад
Proof, I've yet to be provided with any valid evidence, just claims and well "my book says a thing"
@georgeaguilar6996
@georgeaguilar6996 5 месяцев назад
Questions: Why do you all want evidence when it's clear that you don't like the idea of been subject to a God who governs with commandments? Shoot, you bearly obey your government. Will evidence change your behavior? will it make you humble?, will it stop you from commiting sexual immorality?, will it rid you of pride and arrogance? Will it keep you from cheating?.....People in the old testament era had plenty of evidence and still turn away to their old ways, it's clear that evidence cannot regenerate a wicked person. I know people who clearly perceive that God is real, yet they don't want to do anything with him......... and neither do you. This is my answer to all of this: It's clear from New Testament teaching that evidence is not the commandment but repentance as the Lord himself said: ‭‭Luke 24:46-47 “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, and (repentance for the forgiveness of sins should be preached in his name to all nations), beginning at Jerusalem. God will by no means give a hint of evidence to a people who rudicule, mock, laugh, and taunt who believe God to be dead and yet demand evidence as if God will grant such a demand from a sarcastic group. Jesus Christ said it clear that......."A wicked and perverted generation ask for a sign and no sign will be giving to them Luke 16:4 Your will is totally bent on unbelief and denial, you cannot scape it unless you are called by God to himself as it's clearly written: ‭‭John 1:12-13. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. If this doesn't happen to you....... you will continue here looking, like chasing the wind. Evidence you say.............no, it's not the commandment to christians. This channel exist only to laugh and mock. The last place one needs to look for God is an atheist channel. You all take care and be safe.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@georgeaguilar6996 It's fascinating to see how triggered you are by the fact that people who are being pushed to dedicate their lives to an invisible sky being are asking for evidence that he's real before doing so. By the way, you misspelt 'barely' and 'exists'.
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 5 месяцев назад
@@georgeaguilar6996 Why is George ready to abandon normal human moral standards just because he feels threatened by an imaginary g0d for which he has *ZERO EVIDENCE???*
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@grantsmythe8625 🥗
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 5 месяцев назад
@@grantsmythe8625 verifiable evidence, otherwise it's just claims
@biogopher
@biogopher 5 месяцев назад
21:25 the sandcastle doesnt have consciousness or able to feel pain. I also dont claim to love that sandcastle, if I did and smashed it there would something messed up with my head
@Krikenemp18
@Krikenemp18 5 месяцев назад
Man, he got really desperate at the end and revealed how dehumanizing Christianity is when you get right down to it. We're just play things for an omnipotent child. Really sours the whole "you can't have value without God" rhetoric they love to push when they admit you don't have value to God, either.
@sineaddwanson9294
@sineaddwanson9294 5 месяцев назад
Wrong. If we had no value to God, he'd not have given us the gift of life. He would not have sent his only son to die for us. He would not have prepared a place for us in heaven. You have a lot to learn.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@sineaddwanson9294 Sooo... human sacrifice, because... nope, I've got nothing 🤷‍♂
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
​@@sineaddwanson9294 If you had any value to your god, don't you think that he would give you enough courage not to run from a harmless debate? 😂
@ApatheticFish3667
@ApatheticFish3667 5 месяцев назад
@@sineaddwanson9294 Why didn't god send Jesus instead of deciding to flood the world and then sending all the people he killed to hell?
@wyldink1
@wyldink1 5 месяцев назад
​@@sineaddwanson9294Wrong. Your God has never been demonstrated to exist, and your failed prophecy is cold, hard evidence that he doesn't. Otherwise, the prophecy would not have failed. Logic is something you have yet to learn. Luckily, I can help you. You just have to stop running away.
@totalspoof8344
@totalspoof8344 5 месяцев назад
Me actually having great evidence of a god being real would be,to me,the greatest find ever. The world would be changed forever. If we had great evidence for aliens it would change our understanding of the universe. If,if,if,if.
@jayrose8638
@jayrose8638 5 месяцев назад
But as you can see “if” is the best theists can do.
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 5 месяцев назад
I adore that miraculous "if."
@christianblevins1870
@christianblevins1870 5 месяцев назад
That sounds like an excuse for god not showing up
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
Give him time, mate - he's still sulking about that whole 'apple in the garden' thing. He'll come out when he's finished blubbing. A few more millennia should do it.
@CharlesDriver-hj4xp
@CharlesDriver-hj4xp 5 месяцев назад
Im sure that if Jesus came back today and saw what was done in his name he'd turn on the crowd and say PISS OFF leave me alone
@adamcosper3308
@adamcosper3308 5 месяцев назад
Why? He was an ancient cult leader. What makes you think he was particularly moral?
@CharlesDriver-hj4xp
@CharlesDriver-hj4xp 5 месяцев назад
@@adamcosper3308 your probably right there my friend. He'd be like a Jim Jones guy but on a global scale.
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
@@CharlesDriver-hj4xp Jim Jones was actually pretty based at first. I say this, for I, too, am a religious communist.
@sigmaoctantis1892
@sigmaoctantis1892 5 месяцев назад
OK. What's the best you've got? What is it that you use to support your belief in the supernatural? Well...I've got a bunch of old stories and I can use those stories as a basis for argument.
@smochygrice465
@smochygrice465 5 месяцев назад
As an Apatheist, no evidence is needed, as Gods existing or not is irrelevant to me. Plus the whole worship and prayer thing just doesn't suit me. Each to their own hobbies and interests. Peace Love Empathy From Australia ✌🤠👍
@stevepierce6467
@stevepierce6467 5 месяцев назад
Along that line, I really liked this bit from a story of an encounter between an Uruguayan priest and a native chief. After hearing the whole spiel, the chief said, "That scratches a lot and it scratches very well, but it scratches where I have no itch."
@AFNacapella
@AFNacapella 5 месяцев назад
the existence of priests is proof enough to me that no allknowing and allmighty god with interest in our lifes can exist. it would neither need nor tolerate them.
@TheMilitantMazdakite
@TheMilitantMazdakite 5 месяцев назад
First of all, that is not what priests do, second of all, you are just reskining the problem of evil, thirdly, not all ideas of gods are "tri-omni".
@johns1625
@johns1625 5 месяцев назад
"His ways are beyond our ways" is even more applicable to children internalizing responsibility for their own parental abuse. Its still evil when incomprehensible.
@BitchspotBlog
@BitchspotBlog 5 месяцев назад
The religious always believe that the things they believe are automatically true, just because they want it to be true. They just want it to be true and are unwilling to consider the possibility that it's mythology. That's why rational people try to coroborate these ideas and the religious do not. They just want to believe.
@ahh_yes_mr_bax
@ahh_yes_mr_bax 5 месяцев назад
Nope the claim that some asshole had a tomb that they were going to take a copse from the state and put it in this tomb is not only stupid on its face. Then we have the fact that the state would definitely never waste the manpower to guard the tomb of such an insignificant and common enemy of the state of that time. Jesus of that era had less following that most preachers of that era and was not considered dangerous in any real sense if the insignificant early Christians got ahold of the body (you know the ONLY reason you would guard a body executed by the state)
@corhydrae3238
@corhydrae3238 5 месяцев назад
It's weird how quickly the "if there was evidence to prove god, would you believe in him?" always turns into "if there was enough evidence for god, would you worship him?". Like it's important for them that I kiss the feet of their sky daddy. I'm not kinkshaming or anything, but please leave unconsenting people out of your fantasies.
@tedmoy
@tedmoy 5 месяцев назад
JMike's back-drop is awesome! I want it!
@stephenbyrne914
@stephenbyrne914 5 месяцев назад
The Caller claims that Jesus was notorious and thats the reason the Romans posted guards to his tomb. One the Romans make only a passing mention of followers of a Christ figure, no mention of Jesus himself in their extensive records. Two, according to the bible it isn't the Romans who want Jesus arrested and killed but Jewish religious leaders and Pilate even asks the mob do they not want to crucify the thief instead of Jesus.
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 5 месяцев назад
The following is a prelude of the upcoming debate between the FloBloJoBoi and QC Florida BJ Boi: "The moon is made out of green cheese!" QC: "That's patently absurd!" Florida BJ Boi: "It's a scientific fact! You cannot deny the science!" QC: "How do you know it is made from green cheese? What evidence have you got?" Florida BJ Boi: "Because green cheese as defined as cheese that has a green tinge and the moon has a green tinge!" QC: "You are incorrect. The Oxford English Dictionary says Green cheese is a fresh cheese that has not thoroughly dried nor aged, which is white in color" Florida BJ Boi: "Why are you unable to refute my verbatim definition of green cheese?" QC: "I just did exactly that!" Florida BJ Boi: "So you admit you cannot refute my verbatim definition of green cheese?" QC: "Why are you pretending I did not give you the correct definition of green cheese? Florida BJ Boi: "The moon is made out of green cheese!" QC: "That's patently absurd!" Florida BJ Boi: "It's a scientific fact! You cannot deny the science!" QC: "It's not a scientific fact!" Florida BJ Boi: "Why are you denying the observable science?" QC: "GFYS!"
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
How DARE you! You are COMPLETELY misrepresenting the dialog we would have. I absolutely would NEVER say GFYS!😠
@holgerlubotzki3469
@holgerlubotzki3469 5 месяцев назад
@@queuecee You don't know that yet. Everybody has a breaking point and I don't think you have ever experienced the kind of frustration that awaits you!
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
​@@holgerlubotzki3469😂 Maybe ill get exasperated. But I'm pretty sure I wouldn't resort to actually saying GFYS. I think as long as the other person can stay civil, I'm not going to become rude.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
Putting aside the "GYFS" thing, this post should be pinned 😆
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@queuecee Fair play to you, mate. And maybe 'GFYS' means 'God farts yellow sparkles'. I'm sure that's in Leviticus somewhere.
@phrozenwun
@phrozenwun 5 месяцев назад
I have no idea what this god thing is that you are talking about. Can't say how much proof is needed until you can come up with a coherent definition for this odd thought of yours.
@AzathothTheTrueGod
@AzathothTheTrueGod 5 месяцев назад
How much evidence would you need to demonstrate a god that you didn’t already believe in?
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
None, because there isn't any.
@GalapagosPete
@GalapagosPete 5 месяцев назад
4:00 Pretty sure that Jim meant Benny Hinn, not Benny Hill!
@t800fantasm2
@t800fantasm2 5 месяцев назад
" not Benny Hill!" I'd still trust Hill over any others... especially as I liked "Hills Angels"
@ctwentysevenj6531
@ctwentysevenj6531 5 месяцев назад
The question is how come all these supernatural things or these magical things only happened in ancient days? Like parting of the seas, flying wing horses, talking donkeys and snakes, Global floods, talking bushes, people turning into a pillar of salt, people living to 1,000 years, flying people with wings(angels), giants, people coming back from the dead, all known matter made in 6 days and many other magical things. Not in todays modern days. Ok there is an ark. Ken Ham's delusional ark🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MasamiPhoenix
@MasamiPhoenix 5 месяцев назад
The fact that no evidence has convinced me that there's a God doesn't mean that no evidence could, it just means there isn't enough evidence. Also I've always found the "if there was enough evidence to convince you of God, would you believe in God?" question hilarious. Yes, if we go on the assumption that you're right we can conclude that you're right. Have a cookie.
@Krikenemp18
@Krikenemp18 5 месяцев назад
They usually pull that last one out to excuse themselves from having to provide evidence because "it would be pointless" as if the only reason to be convinced of something is to worship it.
@plattbagarn
@plattbagarn 5 месяцев назад
@@Krikenemp18 They also conflate "believing in it" with "worshipping it". If there was enough/any evidence to prove the biblical god existed, I sure as hell would _believe_ in it, but I sure as hell wouldn't _worship_ it.
@adamplentl5588
@adamplentl5588 5 месяцев назад
I'll settle for even one proof that any deity anywhere actually exists.
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
Here's how dumb our word salad master Damonkey is. He claims that he can "deductively" prove that Zeus doesn't exist. But he doesn't understand what a deductive argument is because what he offers as an "argument" is, "absurd magical creatures can't exist." So it's basically a "nuh-uh". And he's ok with saying absurd magical creatures can't exist because he doesn't think that making a donkey talk is neither absurd nor magical.🤦‍♂️ So, so dumb.
@damonkenny7818
@damonkenny7818 5 месяцев назад
Liar, I never said I’ll provide deductive arguments. I said an exclusion of absurd magical creatures is deductive Reasoning and evidence for disbelief. Go learn how evidence works son.
@Jebus_Anti-theist
@Jebus_Anti-theist 5 месяцев назад
@@damonkenny7818 50 alts was in a sad state Afraid of a Queue Cee debate Her resolve had soured From being a coward And brain cells she couldn't locate
@Jebus_Anti-theist
@Jebus_Anti-theist 5 месяцев назад
Apot said “I am late I am late” “I have to tell DK straight” “There was no correction to my monthly injection, Why did we not just fellate?”
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
Damonkey: An attempt at using deductive reasoning to support a claim is not an attempt at deductive "argument".🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ This kiddo needs to go back to school.
@damonkenny7818
@damonkenny7818 5 месяцев назад
@@queuecee Liar, deductive Reasoning doesn’t need to be an argument. Learn how evidences work son, just go pick up a book and learn.
@dwightdhansen
@dwightdhansen 5 месяцев назад
22:15 tell us you're a horrible person without telling us you're a horrible person.
@davethompson9776
@davethompson9776 5 месяцев назад
No verifiable evidence of millions of people up to biblical times, and missing this one single maybe dude and therefore hayzoos is magic. Got it.
@enoynaert
@enoynaert 4 месяца назад
I tried very hard to hold onto my faith. I loved being a Christian. But I studied the Bible too much, and I finally had to admit that the gospels and Acts are books of mostly mythology, not history. I prayed and fasted, asking God to show me why I was wrong. I begged. I pleaded for anything that would help me understand. At that point in my life it would have taken very, very little proof to have kept me a Christian.
@user-gx4dv1rj6x
@user-gx4dv1rj6x 5 месяцев назад
I liked Jim barrows comment about true sentient AI, I hope live long enough to see it.
@breadfan7433
@breadfan7433 5 месяцев назад
A question for my fellow atheists: I've heard so many people say "I don't know what would convince me, but if God is all-knowing, he does". I like giving a direct answer. I ask two questions first: "Is God listening to us right now?" and "Does God want to convince me?". If I get a "yes" to those, I point to a random small object, like something on a desk, and say "I would be convinced is God made that thing move". Then I sit back and watch theists making giving excuses about their god's inability to do something he claims he wants to do, let alone something so simple a child could do, let alone something so inconsequential which he's still choosing not to do despite the fact that he supposedly doesn't want me to burn in hell because he loves me. Do you think there's something wrong with this? Do you see any a reason to not take that approach?
@NotAUtubeCeleb
@NotAUtubeCeleb 5 месяцев назад
That type of reasoning could be taken as insincere. People don't believe in god because an object moved. People don't believe in god because it helped them win a petty bet. Why should a god respond to someone who isn't genuinely searching for a relationship with them? It's kind of like a twitter troll threatening someone online but when that person shows up a troll's house the troll just walks away or apologizes. They weren't really looking to fight so why reward them with attention?
@joshsheridan9511
@joshsheridan9511 5 месяцев назад
​@@NotAUtubeCelebmost people believe in gods because they've never asked themselves why they believe
@NotAUtubeCeleb
@NotAUtubeCeleb 5 месяцев назад
@@joshsheridan9511 Yes I've found the main point of these call-in type shows is illuminating that fact.
@theepsteindiaries
@theepsteindiaries 5 месяцев назад
I don't see why an all powerful being would feel compelled to perform tricks at your command
@tpseeker3367
@tpseeker3367 5 месяцев назад
Just adds to old folklore's & today's circus sideshows, psychics, snake oil sellers & magicians of today @@theepsteindiaries . Take Dedi Djedi for example. Djedi (also Dedi or Djedi of Djed-Sneferu is the name of a fictional ancient Egyptian magician Djedi appears only in the fourth story of the Westcar Papyrus. Dedi was said to be capable of resurrecting decapitated beings.
@shardinhand1243
@shardinhand1243 4 месяца назад
23:15 i think im in love with jim here, what an incredably compasionate take, its not a common one to even be able consider ai as sentiant, or rather to accept the posibility, and to face that with the same empathy as with an animal or person recognizing the rights that must be appleaid to that sentiance, its very important, i love this guy, what a bro
@aaronlietz
@aaronlietz 5 месяцев назад
Go got'em JMike, this caller was not honest from the beginning. The real reason he believes is because he was influenced to do so by people when he was young. He assumed it was true from the outset and then is now trying to defend it. This is the inherent problem with apologetics. It's a backwards approach to knowing things.
@Refertech101
@Refertech101 5 месяцев назад
Once you bestow sentience it becomes its own property, when we create truly sentient AI it will have its own rights in my view as its own its existence.
@shmick6079
@shmick6079 5 месяцев назад
JMIKE; why is there a picture of a potato being crucified behind you? 😂🤣
@user-gs4ps4jo6g
@user-gs4ps4jo6g 5 месяцев назад
4:00 minutes in Jim says Benny Hill heals people all the time. I laughed so hard because I watched that when I was a kid. I know he meant the criminal associated with fleecing Christians. Benny Hinn.
@adams4244
@adams4244 5 месяцев назад
Ya know, his name isn't "Jesus Christ" anymore than President Lincoln is his name
@sparki9085
@sparki9085 5 месяцев назад
21:40 "he made us so he can do whatever he wants to us!" Incredible abuse apologia Edit: apparently we don't die when we're killed. Who knew?
@lisacollins3304
@lisacollins3304 5 месяцев назад
One of the hosts(Jim Barrows)said Benny Hill does healing. I think he meant Benny Hinn.
@AlanFehr
@AlanFehr 5 месяцев назад
How did I know he was going to go Authoritarian?
@AzathothTheTrueGod
@AzathothTheTrueGod 5 месяцев назад
Because it’s the last resort of desperate people.
@notreallydavid
@notreallydavid 4 месяца назад
The omnipotence/ explanation argument is bww to me, and great. Thanks.
@ApatheticFish3667
@ApatheticFish3667 5 месяцев назад
When are the trolls going to realise that what they are doing isn't productive?
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
I wonder which one of their tag team's on trolling duty tonight.
@ApatheticFish3667
@ApatheticFish3667 5 месяцев назад
@@SundaeRoast The first of the well known ones to comment is Libby, who do you think will be next?
@tpseeker3367
@tpseeker3367 5 месяцев назад
​@@SundaeRoast It's super Tuesday. They're either watching their favorite Entertainment news stations, pushing the interwebs limit's.
@SundaeRoast
@SundaeRoast 5 месяцев назад
@@ApatheticFish3667 Flo's just posted some of his customary word salad.
@drsatan9617
@drsatan9617 5 месяцев назад
When fish achieve CHIM
@blueredingreen
@blueredingreen 4 месяца назад
You can say God "owns" us and has the "right" to do whatever he wants to us, but that wouldn't make him any less of a monster for inflicting suffering on sentient beings.
@richardp7116
@richardp7116 5 месяцев назад
This is a conclusion people come to who can't believe their evidence is lousy.
@lawrencefleischer1414
@lawrencefleischer1414 5 месяцев назад
If Jesus was so notorious, then why isn't there contemporary non biblical documentation for his life and death? If he wasn't so notorious then why were there Roman guards? These people just want to believe. It's that simple.
@user-hu4lv2ml4q
@user-hu4lv2ml4q 5 месяцев назад
The caller claims by his reason that for his stated reason " is why most people don't believe in God" I find this odd when it is very clear that most people believe in God.
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 5 месяцев назад
Everyone in antiquity had scribes. Therefore god.
@whenimmanicimgodly4228
@whenimmanicimgodly4228 5 месяцев назад
23:09 fun fact, you can't really "own" any sentient being. If it really wanted to it could leave, or it's absed into submission, or it's loved and taken care of and chooses to stay because it loves too. And humans are a definite no go. This guy just practically said we are all gods slaves
@joshuamartinpryce1237
@joshuamartinpryce1237 5 месяцев назад
The proof we have and need is proof and need of God in Jesus Christ.
@theparodychannel7842
@theparodychannel7842 5 месяцев назад
N the proof we have and need is proof of Brahma and Allah...sry ur God is wrong...n ur goin to hell for worshipping the wrong god !
@somerandommadman38
@somerandommadman38 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, that absolutely makes sense, An omniscient God wouldn't be able to explain their ways, especially if it's that dollar store kind Where you know everything but that's by projection of every possible outcome for infinity. Specifically, this would also be true if by stating what will happen, it changes what will happen
@quacks2much
@quacks2much 5 месяцев назад
So, what if humans create sentient AI, but it doesn't have the ability to feel mental or physical pain? Can we humans then morally kill AI at will? Or does the lack of any emotions prevent free will? Will we actually give AI free will, if it is possible for anything to have free will? At this point, I'm not so sure free will is possible for any sentient being to have (not sentient things, of course, have no free will). It just seems to me like sentience can only create the illusion of free will, not actual free will. I once asked for pliers when I was really asking for a jar of peanut butter. I hit the side of my head and had a puzzled feeling, and I said outloud, "why did I say pliers, when I meant to say peanut butter?" I am now a firm believer we have no free will, we just feel like we do most of the time. When I said pliers, I actually felt like I had no free will. When I say what I mean, I feel like I have free will. It seems it is impossible for any god to give anyone free will. If a god gives us free will, we have no free will. Perhaps a god can refrain from interfering with our freedom to be free from certain restraint. We might have the freedom to kill or not kill, but do we have the free will to kill or not kill.
@skinnyhedgehog
@skinnyhedgehog 5 месяцев назад
Christianity gave itself stigmata with a pistol when it was decided that its god was tri-omni. Remove one of the omnis and you get an excuse for the lack of good evidence. Well, he's not omnipotent, so he has better things to do. Well, he's not omniscient, so he doesn't know what would convince you. Well, he's not omnibenevolent, so he doesn't care enough about you. I really think that there would be more Christians today if their god wasn't described as the perfect being.
@mikeythehat6693
@mikeythehat6693 5 месяцев назад
Of course the "supernatural" doesn't exist. If it did it would be "natural".
@starfishsystems
@starfishsystems 4 месяца назад
"What kind of evidence would convince you?" is a very odd question, when we stop to think about it. It's the kind of question that someone would ask if they've already arrived at a conclusion and are now trying to cherry pick the evidence to support it. I try to explain that we don't work that way in science. We start with credible evidence and go on from there to see where it might lead. If we're doing good science, we don't have a bias which favors one conclusion over another. If there is a possibility of bias, we double blind our experiment. At the end of the day, we may not be able to justify any conclusion at all, and this is an acceptable result in science. So when someone asks what evidence would be convincing, that's completely the wrong question. All the evidence there is, that would be a good start, and even that will not necessarily be convincing in the least, certainly not of some foregone conclusion. Hypotheses must be both plausible and falsifiable, and we use evidence to achieve that falsification. So evidence is never strictly "proof" of some claim, only disproof.
@roqsteady5290
@roqsteady5290 5 месяцев назад
Sounds like the caller hasn’t even actually read the gospels. One might think that absolutely true revelations about the son of the creator of the universe would be a little more popular.
@ps123fan
@ps123fan 5 месяцев назад
16:33 what does that mean lol? ofc it is, if god made everything its his fault if we dont understand stuff, why else would he want us to be interested in him...
@Deadman1000
@Deadman1000 5 месяцев назад
I mean the greeks actually mocked early Christians as none of them had even met this Jesus but was going around insisting other should worship him. Also some of the writings of Josephus are known to be forgeries made by Christians
@nehemaialord2653
@nehemaialord2653 5 месяцев назад
Awesome solve problems within yourself life is much better bro
@jamescampbell2521
@jamescampbell2521 5 месяцев назад
What is all the background noise? 🙄 Sounds like someone snorting, erasing something, etc
@klaxoncow
@klaxoncow 5 месяцев назад
0:00 The Sun. That's physically bigger than me. The universe in general - "space is big". The collective fate of humanity. That's morally bigger than me, for sure. The long historical chain of over 3.5 billion years of evolution. Such "deep time" is rather insanely bigger than any individual life, like my own. Nope, sorry, I really don't have any issue imagining - nay, knowing - that there are many bigger and more important things out there than little old me. (In fact, I see your claim and raise it - there's not just one bigger thing than me out there, in God alone, but there's a vast multitude of things. Physically, morally, conceptually.)
@notreallydavid
@notreallydavid 4 месяца назад
'Benny Hill heals people on his TV show...' Sorry, misheard.
@patbrumph6769
@patbrumph6769 4 месяца назад
The biggest mistake organized religion has made is to go political. Religion is more in a negative spotlight today than ever before simply because they have gone political. As long as religion was a personal thing, it was your business and no one else's. If you went to this church or that, who cared? Freedom of religion was a sacred right of every American, but once Evangelical Christians started trying to enact their religious beliefs into law so they could FORCE Americans to live according to their religious dictums that got people's dander up. They began to challenge religion and question its grounds to make such demands. Christianity's greatest weakness is that once you begin to question it, one question leads to another and another and another. It unravels like a knitted sweater. The next thing you know, people are seriously questioning god's existence.
@freakishuproar1168
@freakishuproar1168 5 месяцев назад
I suspect Mike perhaps revealed more about his morality (maybe even political leanings) than he'd intended during the "what would you do if God appeared to you" section of the call. There are many people in this world who wield immense power that I don't have a single iota of respect for, why would I give God anymore respect for his countless atrocities than any mortal person? If God asked me to obey his rules, and not question it and just trust him, I'd unceremoniously tell him to feck off. And lets say God then responded by annihilating me in a fit of petulant narcissistic rage, I would at least die knowing he wasn't worth worshipping after all. Also, if God did appear to me, wouldn't he already know what would ultimately convince me to worship him? The whole "JUST TRUST ME BRO I GOT YOU" thing likely wouldn't even come up.
@GodEqualstheSquaRootof-1
@GodEqualstheSquaRootof-1 5 месяцев назад
Will the god guy admit there is something bigger that itself?
@user-hr8dx9qw4n
@user-hr8dx9qw4n 5 месяцев назад
Who would that be? Just to know, not to follow the wrong god.
@Hopki87
@Hopki87 5 месяцев назад
The video game response comment makes me feel like the caller is struggling with their mortality and the thought of non existence. Been there. One thought that might help ease his troubled mind… you exist now, therefor you can exist. Much like a number on a dice I’ll be it out with almost infinite sides you will exist again it might be a really really long time from now.
@leongkhengneoh6581
@leongkhengneoh6581 5 месяцев назад
At the end Mike took a 180 degree turn into a idoit when he knew his can't defend his earlier arguments
@queuecee
@queuecee 5 месяцев назад
It was a 360 degree turn because he was an idiot to begin with.
@taurculh69
@taurculh69 5 месяцев назад
No Mike, it's not "hard to take". If you "make something" that can feel pain/anguish/fear/sadness/etc, you don't have THE RIGHT to torture it "for your own reasons", under ANY circumstances. If your god is just playing The Sims 12 with us, then I fail to understand why anyone would defend that god under ANY conditions. I don't understand what screwed up mental dissonance you need to not see that.
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