How Old, Nasty Airplane Seats Are Given A Second Life 

Most people don’t want to pay for the quality. China has destroyed the market with imitation products that look identical to high end products for a fraction of the cost… and with people being the way they are, they opt for the cheaper version thinking they are getting the same product. At some point, we as a society have been brain washed that everything just is the way it is. Everything is junk, it’s all the same.. so just buy the cheapest junk. It’s a vicious cycle.

What it’s $5000 for a pretty basic chair and requires a $2000 refresh every 10 years. Imagine the amazing seats your ass would be planted on if you budgeted $9k acquiring and replacing a single chair for 30 years (5k up front and 2 refreshes)

@@marcusofranz1102 - A quality office chair or armchair costs over $1000 and lasts about the same if used daily. A commercial use single person sofa is upwards of $2k. These airline seats are sat in by all sizes of people, every day and in average 13 hours each day. By their 10 year “life”, they are still in usable condition and just need to be refreshed so people sitting in them don’t feel they are sitting in an old seat. $2k maintenance every 10 years is an excellent ongoing expense.

It's the same way in a lot of modern automobiles. Lear makes some fabulous seating for Cadillacs.

They’re Velcro because the seat cushions double as flotation devices in case the plane makes an emergency landing on water.

I think most removable things from an aircraft are reused/resold because they're way too expensive to be thrown away.

Also lifejackets made from strong styrofoam for floating purposes as well with flashlight, beacon light and whistle

now if stuff were made today llike this, we would have less trash

Fellow VP squadron member got my start in navy aviation!

Former Boeing Everett.... love brand new interiors... the smell is wonderful. Every part of an aircraft has to be approved by the FAA. Inspectors are so frequent it seems like some are on site 24/7. I think they too love the smell of brand new planes. What do you think? Go Navy... spent time in St Louis at Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet Factory. Lots of meetings with Top Navy Brass, DOD, and many others with alphabet soup letters for Org names. I was a Certified Lean Manufacturing Instructor. Navy was good to work with. Many minds make amazing improvements.

@@SJR_Media_Group I equate the new airplane smell to a new car smell. I interviewed with Boeing in Everett many years ago, they were in the midst of union contract problems then so I didn't take their offer of employment. Took the factory tour there and it was very impressive. FLY NAVY!!!

​@@USNveteran I too was cautious before joining Boeing. There was Union Activity when we were Leaning out the processes. There would be a reduction in workforce. No one was laid off, there was some voluntary retirements. After we explained that Lean would make their jobs easier and safer. Union finally bought in and now we had a full team to save all of our jobs. The smell of some of the solvents and sealants were new to me. I actually liked those smells. You are right, the 'New Car Smell' is a combination of everything. I never bought a brand new car, but a few of the used cars still smelled 'Factory Fresh'. Go Navy... my dad enlisted in the Navy right after Pearl Harbor. He was in the Pacific Theater on LST's. He repaired damaged ships and helped get them back into the fight. When he died about 10 years ago, he had a full Military Funeral complete with Honor Guards. I held it together until the 21 gun salute. I was so humbled and grateful for his sacrifice I finally cried. Have his flag and medals in a triangular display. I also have a mini urn with some of his cremation ashes. He spent time in San Diego at Naval Base there. I love San Diego, been there twice, and when I go next time, will make sure his ashes are spread out at Sea. It's the least I can do for dad. Before I graduated, I checked out all 4 Military Branches at our Recruitment Center. All were in same small space. To visit another Branch all I had to do was walk 20 feet to next desk. Everyone could hear everyone else. It almost like a bidding war. Who as going to get the straight A student with advanced math, physics, chemistry, leadership, and highly motivated to serve. I wanted to be a pilot and help my buddies in Vietnam. I had gone to local training base and watched a live fire exercise. I fell in love with the Cobra Gunship. This was in 72. My Draft Number was Low enough that I wasn't taking any chances about being drafted and then stuck in something I wouldn't like. I was in the Last Draft, it then ended. I went with Marines. They were changing their CAS role in War. They had to rely on Army for CAS who had really revolutionized Helicopter roles. Calvary changed from Horses to Helicopters. Marines were doing the same. Marines made an offer I couldn't refuse. Plus they have really nice uniforms, and if you get killed, they have really great funerals. Lots of paperwork and tests. Becoming a pilot had really strict requirements for Marines. I could have gone Army and been flying in less than a year. Marines wanted College Grads. I was in College but hadn't graduated yet. That could be waved if I was actually already in College. Also, the Marines required Pilots to be Lieutenants. Officer Training Program before flying anything for Marines. More paper work and tests. Marine Slogan "A Few Good Men" was 100 percent true. They don't put junk within their Ranks. That is Main Reason I went Marines. Plus Marines and Navy are like Blood Brothers. It would Honor my Dad for his service in the Navy during WWII. Back in the days, Marines rode on ships manned by the Navy. They provided transportation and logistics. Marines defended the ships. Marine still rely on Navy, and Navy still rely on Marines. Hard for Marines to land on a Carrier they don't have. Only Navy has Carriers. Just recently I finally had an Ah ha moment. The word "Marines' is straight from the word "Mariner" which is from their time with Navy who also were "Mariners". Long story short... War ended in 73. Ink on my paperwork was still wet. I was in College waiting for 'the call'. I had passed every mental, physiological, and physical test required before Officer's Training. I had 1 requirement Marines had to guarantee and they did. I wanted Front Line duty in War to help my buddies on the ground with CAS. I did not want to be in back at a safe and boring base. Call came, they said stay in College for now. They had thousands of returning pilots who were given first priority. They had fought and died. They would remain pilots before any new recruits did. If there were open slots, then new pilots had a chance. After all the dust settled, there might be slots open. Did I want to go to Japan or Germany for 4 - 8 years... no front line fighting in war providing CAS to boots on the ground. *_They already knew the answer._* Years later I was still serving via Boeing and their Military side of the Company. My time in St Louis working with Navy, DOD, and others while improving the F/A-18. If we couldn't speed production and lower sticker price, Navy would pull out of contract. I came in from Commercial Side where we can build a 747 in a week. 4 giant engines, 400 seats, 2 kitchens, 200 windows, 2,000 miles of wires, giant cockpit, gigantic structure to paint, and on and on. F/A-18 1 window, 1 seat (2 later), 2 small jet engines, 200 miles of wires, Top Secret weapons and electronic boxes, small overall size. (Yes I had Top Secret Clearance). *_Why did it take over a year to build?_* We 'fixed' the problems, lowered cost, improved production flow and got 2nd Navy Contract. We saved Boeing.

@@SJR_Media_Group I have a somewhat similar Vietnam story. Got my draft card and report date, followed by a letter saying they were stopping the draft and I didn't have to report. Joined the Navy a few years later. Stationed at Pax River and worked in the rotary wing flight test squadron. It's quite a bit different than ship board squadrons, which I also got to see. Worked with many great NAVAIR engineers & test pilots. When I separated after 4 years went to work for a defense contractor in the rotary wing shop at US Naval Test Pilot School, also got in a little fixed wing time. Once again another amazing environment & group of people. Next stop was a King Air & T-34 contract at Pax where an A&P license was required which I already got immediately after separating from the Navy. Once again another amazing group of engineers & test pilots. From there I went to the airline business, talked to Boeing in that time frame as well. Started in commuter regionals, next was air freight, then major airline. Just retired after 30+ years in the airline business. We have much military service in our families, WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam. My father in law joined the Navy on 12/8/41 at 16. Was a torpedo man in the Destroyer Escort Fleet. He made 37 trips through the Panama Canal seeing Naval Combat in both the Atlantic & Pacific theaters. My brother's father in law was USMC in WWII and was on Tarawa & Saipan. Both of these men's stories made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, and I feel truly fortunate to have heard them first hand. It's was quite a journey and I was very fortunate to have seen & done the things I have. I feel privileged to have been able to work with the people I did and learn from them , especially the Vietnam & Korea vets. FLY NAVY!!!

When I heard that, I had to skip back to see if I heard it right. Would have been funnier to go with B-wing and A-Bus

I had to go back and double check as well. That she did. Never heard it called that before haha

Most people here are economists, not av-geeks unfortunately.

what the haillll

I was hoping someone noticed it 🤣

start with bicycle seating/...

As a poor boy with a bike shop after the war who was just very curious By “accident”

He knows someone in the airline management. "Hey, start a company refurbishing airline seats"

thats why i scrolled down to the comments. they cant use google?

@@BlueCatIV They have the correct text on the screen, but apparently didn't check if the audio matched.

Not to mention the sheer weight of their aggression

@@stevecooper7883 very true

😂😂😂😂🤣

Obviously.

Leather can't absorb. My flight neighbor told me so.

Hopefully they put in fresh padding.

Any idea how to get into this industry?

@lynestelles3899 get an education. License. Apply for hundreds of job openings.

Interesting! Any pictures of that?

bro youre indian

@@user-vw6lj7sv3y that reply says a lot about a person who doesn't have any knowledge about India and it's people By the way i am a citizen of United Kingdom but yes I am Indian

I highly doubt they do more than wipe the blood off for the next flight

​@@lukethompson5558They'd likely mark those seats as broken until they could get cleaned.

nutty

Half of those are mine.

"hot-pumped" 💀

floatation device

@@ForeverHeHim side note - I once had gas so bad on a plane that I was asked to deplane. The only reason I was able to avoid this fate was I told the stewardess that I would go to the media and complain about "racism" if they kicked me off the flight and would not mention my rancid ass vapors. I was upgraded to first class where the seats are more substantial and thus better suited to accommodate my discharges.

Correction: And NOT a battery powered screw driver. How tedious and slow can you make that job.

@@roberthowell7095 if you select the 3 vertical dots on the right side of your comment, you will see an option to edit it, instead of replying with another correction comment.

Ok

@@d.k.1394 thanks for taking the time to comment

@@edum.6353 yes dirty

@@d.k.1394 cute

I don't like dirty dirt

I checked. They are not. Otherwise would be a fantastic opportunity

You’d be surprised how many people seem to use the screens on the airplane, at least on the flights I’ve been on. You have to pay for the WiFi on board a plane, but nowadays the screens are free entertainment with countless movies and TV shows. We also get a flight tracker on them. It’s really nice to look down on a town or city and know which city you’re seeing from a moving map. Delta’s had them for over 15 years now, and United’s actually ADDING them to their fleet if you’re dubious about people actually using them. They’re seen as a perk in Delta so much that United had to add them to be competitive. And since you say phones are better, I’m sorry to break the news to you but the newer screens are not only the size of a large tablet, they’re a far higher definition than they used to be. From this comment, it would sound as if the only plane you’ve ever flown on is the Delta 737-800 with the screens from 2007. Yes, you’re correct about those. Dim, barely larger than a phone, poor resolution, laggy touch screen that needs to be pressed hard. They are bad, and they are the only reason why the bad reputation for these exists.

It's the R&D cost, then testing time, then FAA approval work.... FAA approval about 2 years of work alone. And yes, every pound in weight saved is equal to thousands of dollars of fuel over the lifetime of the plane. Also T7 aluminum is some of the most expensive material you use in manuacturing. It rare to even use lower than T6 in aerospace... But the everyday aluminum items you & I might own and encounter during your life rarely meets even T5 quality; So the raw material can be 3-10x the cost, and none of the parts are going to be cast or forged, but most likely made of billet and machined. There is a reason why a modern jet starts 25 million...for example a 737 is about 95 million.

What new car can you get for $10,000?

@@enadegheeghaghe6369 You can buy a new Dacia Sandero in Germany for €8,900. Not sure about the US prices. In the past the Mitsubishi Colt was famous here. It was just under €10,000. For around €12,500 you can get a Renault Twingo.

$5,000 is for 1 economy seat, so a half-row of 3 seats costs $15,000!

@@David..... Yeah I was gonna say the FAA certification takes a long time and costs a lot of money.

That's right, getting in touch with a consultant during the pandemic was how I was able to scale through the crazy stock downtrend.

That's massive. Can you please connect me with your personal broker, I would love to work with her

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Just run a search on her name, and you would see all you need.

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