How Salty is the Average Smash Player?

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As we all know, unranked on Slippi is an absolute saltfest. So if you ran into this character on unranked, what are their salt levels like in a form of a tier list? Are they the Falco player that is the "lol" "lol" "lol" "bad connection" "bad connection" type? Or are they a Yoshi main that is the "ggs" "well played" type? Find out in this Toph Talk!
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This is a Melee tier list, but with a twist! Not necessarily a GRSmash Salty Moments in Smash type video or a Top 10 Salty Ice Climber Moments video, but more like a Melee color tier list. Toph loves Super Smash Bros Melee. This video is similar to "If you run into this character on unranked, how good is the average player?" except it's about salty players and not skill level.
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@Sanjuro333 2 года назад

Pink Peach should say "Unless they are playing Fox" instead of Falcon. The Falcon matchup is way less rage inducing than fighting Fox as Peach in my opinion.

@sam.lipchutz 2 года назад

I’ve been playing peach allot lately and I love playing Falcon and spacies because it’s so pleasurable to gimp them. The ones I hate playing are Puffs and actually sheiks because they camp me out and It’s so hard to even hit them

@tylerboulware6510 2 года назад

I'm a pink Peach and I'm ironically in the "... unless they are playing Peach".

@trollof229antthevariable9 2 года назад

LOL

@Finneagan 2 месяца назад

Fox is hard but not usually frustrating for me. Marth is the real saltshaker

@soup_56 2 года назад

You missed the "spacie playing against marth who switches to marth after a couple games and f-smashes repeatedly in the corner without moving as if to make a point that all the marth is doing is f-smashing despite the spacie getting caught by every dash attack-uptilt combo" tier

@AlexRoseGames 2 года назад

whenever I play a marth as falco and closely win game 1 I go marth game 2, usually take the first 1-2 stocks free and then they almost always d/c. and if not I then go ness after I win game 2 and they definitely d/c

@ripmyhands5649 2 года назад

I hate that these people exist. I dual main fox marth and the marth gets the wrong idea every time I switch for the ditto. Same thing happens with the fox ditto. :(

@AlexRoseGames 2 года назад

@@ripmyhands5649 imo character switching can come across as bm by default so if you want to dual main without tilting anyone, disconnect and start a new session as your other main

@mlalbaitero 2 года назад

@@AlexRoseGames or just keep playing cause who cares what some random person thinks. I also get upset when someone changes their character in the moment, but really I shouldn't, it's a game and they can pick who they want. Obviously when I'm playing Falco and they go Falco and they start spamming lasers and taunting, theyre insulting my play, but if they don't its fine

@dysenkennedy 2 года назад

People do this against peach too. If they di one d-smash badly and they start mashing d-smash even if that was the first time you used it that match.

@imaginewagons5414 2 года назад

I lasercamped a ganon for 6 minutes in falco ganon game one and then played like 10 more games with that same ganon, different and better breed

@TheJewelMan 2 года назад

Thats someone who wants to get better at the matchup, good shit.

@ProcessHF 2 года назад

Players like this thinking it's cool to lame out low tiers instead of just playing the game and having fun.

@BlueGrovyle Год назад

@@ProcessHF well maybe this person was doing all 3 at the same time: playing, being lame, and having fun.

@raiden4647 5 месяцев назад

@@BlueGrovyle i fucking love playing lame

@TrevsTreehouse 5 месяцев назад

@@BlueGrovyleI do all three at once and I refuse to feel any shame for it loll. Life is about balance

@SmilePecoSmile 2 года назад

I am blue Falco. I am not a sweet person. I am not a scholar or a gentleman. I am probably tilted into oblivion but will hit you with the "well played" because my shortcomings are my own fault.

@Gigabyte019 3 месяца назад

You have my respect.

@serval_ssbm 2 месяца назад

you're a goated human being for that

@crocworks 2 года назад

As a green Luigi main, I can confirm that the funniest thing to happen is when a top tier ragequits.

@SnyderChips07 2 года назад

Two luigis ragequit on my fox today- I don't blame them though, wavedash-downsmash can't be that fun to play as

@mattneale1333 2 года назад

Another Green Luigi here, its amazing how fox and falco will stand there until you get close to them, then they'll quit. its like a mini game, if you can get a hit in before they quit, they'll stay for the first stock then rage quit if you win the stock or taunt and quit if they win it. dude it's one stock, no one has owned anyone yet

@h3ck774 2 года назад

Nothing like resting a puff to a taste of they’re own medicine

@smoceany9478 Год назад

can confirm as a black G&W

@Mario_Archive 2 года назад

I'm a mario main and I get a lot of instant disconnects, I always thought it was just that mario was too low tier, but "I don't want to play your secondary" makes a lot of sense

@bananastan714 2 года назад

I don’t usually have a lot of time for games these days. Only 2 or 3 years into melee, and I’d honestly rather just play against characters where I know more about the matchup and stuff like that. If I have a bunch of time, I’m down to play against any character.

@boxcarTV 2 года назад

happens to my doc too

@barakbrooks9288 Год назад

I quit out against Mario/doc or Luigi cause I just find way too fucking many of them I don't wanna play Mario all day

@BringBackOGClubPenguin 2 года назад

I feel like base fox or falco should be on “Unless you’re playing puff” or “Specially if you’re playing puff”

@Yvs8962 2 года назад

Yeah but tbf if you play Puff youre kind of a joke -White Fox

@CMAT17 2 года назад

Bring Laudandus for the matchup chart! The Falcon salt from that Scar and Toph show was immensely hilarious.

@xXDaftPunk101Xx 2 года назад

In my experience falco mains exist on both ends of the spectrum. I've played falcos that will quit out after getting hit with the first laser in the ditto, but I've also had a few absolute homies that would try to save you with shine if you were about to sd.

@Yvs8962 2 года назад

Not a Falco player but I agree. Some Falco's play and act like the biggest dickheads ever (usually Green Falco LOL). Pretty much only down to stick around if theyre winning, frame 1 quit out whenever you land a finishing blow, "lol lol lol", non-stop camping and laser spam to the point where its clear their goal is just to make playing them as anti-fun as possible, etc. But then I have run into the cool Falco’s who are def homie and communicate that theyre just there for some dope Melee. Definitely a spectrum between the two, but also a bit of a binary cuz they usually are more like one or the other.

@MasterPpv 2 года назад

I think the huge disparity just comes from the fact that there are SO many Falco players on unranked. You're just naturally going to have a lot of variation when your sample size is that large.

@invalidssb 2 года назад

I think what was missing is the “Wannabe” tier I think that there are some alts that are like you want to be the person who uses them for me that would be Red Fox because mango u know

@brianbearce5679 2 года назад

As a green skin main who plays a lot of falco. I wanna break the stereotype. I wanna be the chill green falco who stays forever

@mwagsoney37 2 года назад

I feel this and i main falcon and play marth and falco secondary

@dahuterschuter 2 года назад

Falcon players should be in "Well mannered unless you're playing Falcon" tier

@AeroAnimationsInc 10 месяцев назад

Man color psychology is nuts. I'm usually a pretty chill guy. And I usually do either blue or neutral characters. Crazy.

@CalebBlack 2 года назад

I only disconnect when someone wants to go "all star mode" on me. If they've changed character for the second time or later, and they're changing to a low tier, I'm out.

@AlexRoseGames 2 года назад

haha, I am an allstar player but only vs marth. it takes a lot of restraint to not just go in as falco and I have to play so patient to not get cheesed. when I just wanna chill and not think I switch to the ditto or roy after I win game 1. if I lose game 1 I stick it out with falco and play till they d/c. if I win the ditto convincingly I go ness

@snailcakes9119 2 года назад

What if they suck

@snailcakes9119 2 года назад

Then that’s me suckie all star player just trying to find my main

@zelkye 2 года назад

As a neutral Falcon main, i enjoy your youtube content, but begrudgingly.

@boxcarTV 2 года назад

need a “will switch to bottom tier characters for 4 games then ‘lol’ ‘lol’ and dc on their first win” tier

@RawrJaayZ 2 года назад

As an unranked Falco player, every white Marth is wholesome unless Marth ditto

@TacoInvader69 2 года назад

lol thats me

@AutumnForHire 2 года назад

White Marth Power

@sigmundsoldier Год назад

Literally me. Play white Marth as a huge Fire Emblem fan. Hate the ditto

@Probasaur 2 года назад

When you put Blue Falco to the bottom tier i popped off in agreement. Def has nothing to do with blue falco being my main and i almost always send "well played" "that was fun" "ggs". Spot on toph ;]

@ZizZazZuz 2 года назад

This reminds me a lot of the team fortress 2 hat stereotypes videos. This is a good thing. Black Marth is a warpig.

@alejandrocrespo7633 Год назад

One of the Marth shades should go in the "will dc against Shiek" tier lmao

@VisaCardholder 2 года назад

I've been playing Slippi nearly daily since release and I'm now realizing I've never seen a Pichu on unranked.

@VisaCardholder 2 года назад

The only Yoshi I know is one of the saltiest people I've seen

@AlexRoseGames 2 года назад

@@VisaCardholder the only ICs I've ever seen are the saltiest players on netplay

@CogzillaOfDojima 2 года назад

Can confirm I play both blue spacies and have never hit a chat button that isn't "ggs" "well played" or "that was fun"

@michaelmullen1503 2 года назад

Much respect to Toph's massive integrity

@djspencerduh 2 года назад

The switch to flacon when you think they’ll go fox is next level read. Best part of the whole video 😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@kestrel7493 2 года назад

I think a tier for "that ONE matchup" would be better than loads of individual character matchup tiers

@slicksiwik7607 2 года назад

While watching this I ran into a ganon as sheik who immediately Rage quited when I queued up with him lmao

@awesomedud3739 2 года назад

Me a blue spacie main: sigh of relief

@Thewildmanrules 2 года назад

Agreed lmao

@mrwvupersonguy 2 года назад

Blue falcos where we at

@CwuLacha 2 года назад

Blue Falco is the move. Glad to know other men of culture exist out there

@j-dizzle2946 5 месяцев назад

I usually dislike blue skins, some e force told me to play blue fox idk what happened.

@drunkhyperjuice 2 года назад

i was having an aneurysm from shock that it took so long for green falcon to recieve justice

@dr_skrrt8606 Год назад

he put every skin i use in the friendly and amazing person teir so whenever i get mad now i think back and contain my anger as a blue fox (red marth, green falcon, ect) main to up hold this image

@johnkingery6035 2 года назад

Purple Gannons are trying to tilt you, neutral Gannon is here to have a good time, and Green Gannon goes for reverse nair

@a2rhombus2 2 года назад

This video is basically just "most people just wanna chill and play melee but a small few take it too seriously"

@TMFisms 2 года назад

As a Blue Puff player, 100% agree with this list. I will one and done if I have to go make dinner or something, but generally down to just play sets and let you rotate all you want lol.

@dog3504 2 года назад

That idea for a new vídeo with the matchup chart and having a guest is a fire video idea.

@samskott2344 2 года назад

Every Mario main that I have ever encountered seems to have this almost unhealthy amount of dedication to their character. And like, when they can't beat you, they do get reallly salty. Especially if they feel they are losing to a select few options that are really strong against Mario and they think you're being unfair.

@talkgomilk Год назад

I’m a Mario main and relate to this a lot, a lot of times I’ll play against a Marth and get really frustrated when he just flat out beats everything I have. Marth far out ranges Mario and even though I know the matchup sometimes it feels like I can’t do shit. That being said, I still say GGs Well Played after every match (Unless they quit out on me)

@samskott2344 Год назад

@@talkgomilk lmao I feel that man. As an average Marth enjoyer, I can definitely say I like fighting the Marios because there just isn't much they can do to threaten you, lol.

@levonschaftin3676 2 года назад

"can and will rage quit immediately" is this a personal attack

@invalidssb 2 года назад

26:54 true for when I play Green Marth I have never practiced chain graving at all

@Nikkerman 10 месяцев назад

Blue fox is the epitome of if anything they're trying to tilt you, they all have insane tech skill and they live to not let the other player play the game

@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D 2 года назад

As a Green Sheik, so far this is *100%* on point lmao 🤣 Edit: As a Green Zelda tho, you buggin lol 😂 I play her the most and I have literally never quit out on anybody ever. I'll play with you forever lol

@MaybeMintz 2 года назад

I'm a green Marth. I back air all the time and have no clue how to chaingrab. I feel called out.

@lanexyz 2 года назад

“There’s too many colors”

@zachariemelanson485 10 месяцев назад

My thought on ICs is a lot of them played to tilt you, and when it doesn't work they get salty. But then banning wabbling filtered a lot of them out so now it's more of a balance

@Andy251153 2 года назад

I don't think I've ever left until I've played 5 rounds or character cycle

@sam.lipchutz 2 года назад

Why do so many people hate falcon. I love fighting falcon with every character but Yoshi

@nintenx1235 2 года назад

I’m a Ness main because I feel tiers don’t matter unless you’re at a super high level of competition, and honestly I think I would personally go in the DK tier AND the “well played” “GGs”tier. I’m just trying to have fun and play for a long time. I’m not intentionally trying to tilt people (usually, but I do say OKAY if I’m shmoovin and feeling myself) but way too many people DC and get tilted when I beat their fox.

@joed9514 2 года назад

Daisy main and total salt lord, ya got me

@kylebeirne9591 2 года назад

aye toph im BigBodyBigBandz in chat and i had a ton of fun on this stream! it happened on my birthday and it was super cool to get to spend it chilling and chatting with y'all!

@fleskorefrog 2 года назад

As a green marth: chaingrabbing is hard and im working on it but damn if im not having a good time doing back airs and approaching aerials

@cjkmelee 2 года назад

green marths are hella chill

@axis8396 2 года назад

A very long time ago I ran into this one Falco who played a good hour or so with me but it really helped out with my mu experience. As a Blue Peach/Falco I definitely agree with it being cause of the "cooler" colors, actually why I stopped playing red Falco cause it got annoying to look at. I forget my Bowser color tbh, base I think. Haven't played in a year or so though

@pikapac2281 2 года назад

for me i play red marth orange fox and red falco but i have them all set to custom blue skins so it doesnt really count

@ThatWolfArrow 2 года назад

Blue color players are so chill because it's the color of the water tribe

@rainbowgg___ 2 года назад

as a sheik main, i agree with Ganon, but we can add neutral falcon noobs in there and certain spacies if i'm on with tech chasing

@rainbowgg___ 2 года назад

side note this is one of my favorite tier lists and I play so much unranked i understand it soooo well. Coming from a mainly sheik lens, plus i do a lot of bottom 10 characters

@BB0YThomas 2 года назад

As a new player one thing i noticed in unranked is that people leave when i take a stock even tho they see i suck. I'm always like bruv.... if you stayed a minute longer you would've absolutely destroyed me XD

@61romeo 2 года назад

I play jiggs (crowned skin) and a lot of falcons ragequit on me when i crouchcancel rest

@jaw2835 2 года назад

Idk what kinda falcons he’s playing. I can never find 1 that stays to play and says gg at the end

@7dogguy 2 года назад

every ganon that i play taunts after they beat me lmao do they have something against marth?

@jayandjlps8022 2 года назад

In Melee, NASB and Smash Ultimate one and doners make me so angry. Especially when I was learning their habits, yet I couldn't use my knowledge against them to prove that I was better. Makes me so angry.

@oceanwaves83 2 года назад

They scared

@sergioserna3544 2 года назад

I play ganon for absolutely no other reason than to look like a low skill idiot that looks like he just gets lucky with stray aerials and people usually quit after 1 game. Very satisfying

@Jsolo13 2 года назад

Hilarious video lol. I’m a white falco main, half the time I do say ggs and that was fun, other times nothing, and I’ve never rage quit. So yeah here to have a good time is perfect 😂

@ElSSBM 2 года назад

in my experiences. Marth players as people are sweet as hell but when you play them they are tryna tilt you. I also secondary Kirby but only for either bming or just to chill cuz it is fun.

@tcbobb.8782 2 года назад

FINALLY A RELEVANT TIER LIST

@ZombieKitty321 10 месяцев назад

The black marth thing ive acctualy never thought about at all till you said this (i play black marth for context) but i am also kinda a perfectionist when i play marth so idk you might be right.

@_Majunior 2 года назад

The falcon switch to Fox is so fucking true lmao

@trollof229antthevariable9 2 года назад

I do get tilted by Captain Falcons but I met a really cool one. He just wanted me to show him my moves. I got some combos off and he slowly ratcheted up his skill level until I was impressed.

@TheAvenger1171 2 года назад

Nice

@orendamusic7577 2 года назад

I need a tier for chill unless you play peach or samus and try to cc downsmash for 4 minutes

@latinobacon 2 года назад

whenever i play falco dittos they never leave always fun

@pkness5220 2 года назад

Toph u have so much integrity for putting green fox in this tier and not that tier

@DrewZGmusic 2 года назад

Blue Fox here! Thank you for the recognition! I understand Fox is very ridiculous, so I do my utmost to show my opponent respect and keep their spirits high if I run them over a bit And I always say ggs well played And sorry gotta go if I have to leave after one game or even like in the middle of one Normalise that shit, it feels good to do and recieve

@mayzedongthought1917 Год назад

Remembering the time I got on unranked against a pink flacon and he saw I was playing puff exited spammed lol and left. Not match.

@l14m16 2 года назад

Nah nah the red puffs ALWAYS quite out on my yoshi

@SnoopyDrew 2 года назад

As a blue fox I appreciate being appreciated for just wanting to have fun.

@Evannyo 2 года назад

This list is so cathartic, I play puff and the amount of insta ragequit spacies, marths and shieks really blow my mind. You land a upthrow rest (or really any rest) on them because of terrible spacing on their first stock is a 50/50 leave right there or reset games until it doesn't happen, which is such a nothing, infuriating mindset.

@yurplethepurple2064 Год назад

Omg I killed someone off a grab at super low % for free and they’re mad????? So toxic

@sam.lipchutz 2 года назад

Isn’t trying to tilt people and here for a good time really the same thing

@e50013 2 года назад

As an 0-2er but occasional 1-2er my neutral falco and blue fox are definitely just here to have a good time

@NitrousVolvo 2 года назад

what about the elusive blue tie donkey kong?!

@sycophant8470 2 года назад

funny enough the yoshi player in my local was the most toxic in our scene to the point he got banned

@linkluver_izn 2 года назад

not a stoner but happy to see green marth there, and can confirm my chain grabs suck and as soemone who secondaries luigi, it's absolutely satisfying making spacies hate their lives lOL

@Rain-od6oc 2 года назад

i switched to green but i’m still a blue falco at heart (or purple pm falco)

@GarnitrexGaming 2 года назад

I try not to be salty on unranked, but week 1 of slippi I got Marths ledge camping. I didn’t put brawl behind me just for some rando to camp me when it’s not even meta, and I ain’t sticking around to see if they time me out.

@noyd4172 2 года назад

I play yellow Kirby just for fun (Samus main) and I call him the grapefruit.

@Crzypengu 2 года назад

Whenever I play Falcon I always go Pink. However I'm kind of there just for a good time.

@Kitth3n 2 года назад

Yeah Ive always thought of pink falcon as the fun/silly one throughout all of smash

@Crzypengu 2 года назад

@@Kitth3n Part of me wants to classify him as one who wants to fight Breast Cancer. I mean have you seen his nipples?

@PrimeValkyrie 2 года назад

As a blue Falco main this list makes me happy

@saxamophone76 2 года назад

Wow, Toph certainly has so much integrity for putting Green Fox in this tier instead of this tier. Yes, this is my honest opinion and I thought of this comment myself.

@SkeletonSSBM 2 года назад

I trust that Toph has integrity :)

@n0va25000 2 года назад

I feel like EU Samus' are down to groove with Falcons

@andybilyak 2 года назад

Place green fox wherever the hell you want toph. You're the competitive melee player

@ayyocam1917 2 года назад

Everytime i go against the black alt doc mario they have over 200 ping its like a 100% chance

@Space_Lion 2 года назад

Integrity: immaculate edit: had the dk name discussion with friends like a week ago, nintendo really fked around and named a gorilla "donkey"

@Yvs8962 2 года назад

I play White Fox and I can confirm I am (sometimes) toxic on Unranked, but often enough to contribute to the stereotype LOL Also HARD DISAGREE on all Ganon's being sweet. Majority of the Ganons I play get hella salty and are BM win or lose. One and done when they win when I'd usually start bopping them once I remembered how to play the MU and stop falling for double jump stomp. When they lose theyre the type to triple "lol" me, switch to (always my color) Fox and try to do the whole "Im better with your character/theyre braindead" thing, and the other day I was having a close 2 stock match with one then shine spiked him at low % and he quit out, hit me with the triple "Too good" and left. Also I find it awesome how you said Blue Puff is chill cuz one of the only Blue Puff's Ive ever played followed me on Twitter and DM'd me saying we should play more sometime and my Fox is sick 😊💕

@oh_gosh 2 года назад

I play Gold Roy because my retired buddy beat me in a color battle for him and once he retired he re-bestowed me the ability to play him. I only play Golden Roy against people who are very new or also playing a low tier and being chill. :)

@undercoft7756 2 года назад

Because daisy is in a different tier than peach it means she has more differences in melee vs ultimate

@Scramble4 2 года назад

I’ve played like 5 total games of slippi and in those 5 games i broke my controller because of how bad I was

@spaghettiking7312 Год назад

Green is the colour of peace.

@puunk_9240 2 года назад

I'm a Yoshi/Mewtwo main and I have gone for multiple very long sessions where I never disconnect and I always let the other person decide when we are done, and I always say "ggs, good luck". With that established, I will say that I think there is a very specific tier that is very real that needs to added: Comic book villain tier. They aren't toxic in a super mean or hostile sense, but they kind of act like an antagonist in an almost charming way. I'd say some mewtwo players go there, some game and watch players go there, some bowsers go there, and for some reason the DKs that show up in the doubles lobbies could also be in that tier.

@chichechich99 2 года назад

As a gg -> well played blue falco, obviously agree with that evaluation. I will add that the "I just rage switched to falco" neutral falcos are distinctly NOT here to have a good time

@aa-ti7jl 2 года назад

in my experience, the toxic characters are fox, falco, and marth. other characters are varied but generally good mannered.

@Yvs8962 Год назад

Peach’s are hella toxic

@iswiftyfox8997 2 года назад

This shit be looking like a GW2 tier lisg

@myb5558 2 года назад

8:32 Damn you didn't need to soul read me like that :(

@mattneale1333 2 года назад

I think you're approaching this from a very fox/high tier perspective. As a green Luigi, I would move everyone up a tier and move the fox/falcos up even more. They hate us man.

@mattneale1333 2 года назад

also super agree about Kirbys!

@Gipfir 5 месяцев назад

3:50 i got read so hard by toph

@RTU130 2 года назад

I don't think Red Marths are nice but they definitely seem that way at first; take the time to know them and the results will be surprising (also it's worth mentioning The Legend of Red Marth is a thing)