How Sonic SHOULD BE In Smash - Remaking Bad Movesets Series Pt2 

best moveset redo i’ve seen so far, good job. i would only change the nair to insta shield, change the side taunt to something else

I can't say I agree with changing up-b or n-air like you did. Springs are one of the most recognizable objects from the Sonic games alongside rings, so replacing that with the tornado, a janky move only present in a single game, makes no sense. It also wouldn't be good from a gameplay perspective as the spring being left on the ground if you use it there and becoming a projectile if used mid-air makes it much more versatile. The charged version of blue tornado also sounds like it'd be really bad, making Sonic very vulnerable to spikes with how reactable it'd be. As for n-air I'd much prefer it be kept similar to how it is, but instead of just curling into a ball Sonic would use the insta-shield from the classic games. This would let Sonic beat out non-disjointed attacks with good timing and be a fairly unique n-air, starting with a larger and stronger disjointed hit box for a few frames before changing to a weaker one with a lot of active frames. I get wanting to remove his ball moves but I think n-air, down-b and neutral-b is a good amount of representation for his main form of attack without making his moveset too homogenous.

The only thing that needs changing in his taunts is we need the "You're too slow" to come back. I absolutely hate that they got rid of it.

OK did he just say boost from sonic adventure?

Sonic is still aggressive in smash but you can get stuck in endlag and get hard countered

This was great! I would change even more, but I loved the video. I'll follow from now on

tbh you missed some things (imo) like the angles of up tilt, down tilt not comboing properly to other aerials and up air not connecting properly, there's also the part where you said the axe kick should be a hard hitting move which i think should be the opposite, something more like steve's fair but weaker, smaller and safer on shield since people usually only use his specials to camp cus his aerials are bad for neutral with too much lag and not enough coverage. + i think his down air should've been the bounce bracelet and his dash attack should've been slide. (also bring back "you're too slow")

So wait, Sonic can run through an entire army of robots but gets lag from running into a shield?

Can you do Lucas or Wario next? Wario has so much to draw from from Wario Land games and Lucas barely has any moves of his own, borrowing from his team partners (and like 5 moves from Ness)

Here are my suggestions: 1. Keep his neutral air, turn it into the Insta-sheild, and reduce start lag and end lag 2: Give him the ability to do tricks in the air by pressing the taunt buttons to build up the boost gauge for his side-b 3. Combine current Spincharge (rename it to "Spindash") with Sonic wave, one tap to use Sonic wave and mash for Spindash 4. Make Windmill Sonic's dash attack, similar to what Super Smash Bros Crusade did for Sonic's dash attack 5. Keep homing attack as it is 6. Make down-smash Sonic Flare 7. Make Sonic's up-air his current forward-air but upwards to reference what he does when he jumps from an upwards spring in Sonic CD and Mania 8. Make Sonic's Final Smash into something like Cloud's Final Smash. Sonic will turn super saying "CHECK THIS OUT!" then dashing forward, whoever get's hit by him will be sent flying to the air. Sonic will have a after image and will perform a barrage of kicks and punches. He will then stop time and yell "CHAOS CONTROL!" and revert back into his base form only for the Chaos Emeralds to be struck by energy, turning into giant Super Emeralds. Sonic then turns into Hyper Sonic while yelling "NOW I'LL SHOW YOU!", then he will do a barrage of kicks, punches, and homing attacks. He will then end things off with one, big, downwards homing attack. This will drag the opponents down with Sonic until it hits the stage or the nearest platform. He will then revert to base form by releasing the emeralds, and whoever is near him will take damage when Sonic releases the emeralds. Edit: 9. Bring back "Your too slow!" that line is soo good!

When I played smash I didn't think his moveset was necessarily bad, it was pretty good actually... definitely needed to be better tho

Why change Sonic spring there's a lot of cool tricks you can do with it

Cool

I want moves like Light Speed Dash, Bounce Attack, Slide, Tornado (With fire damage), Insta-Shield, Sonic Flare

i like it but i think it would be cool if the fair was that one forward kick from sonic battle and the dair was a bounce

Idk about this

Well uhhh I am really fine with sonic but he's so bad online he's literally a projectile btw I would have liked a metal sonic alt kind of like Ridley