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How the NBA Media Stole Nikola Jokic's MVP | An Analysis on the MVP Award 

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Madness has consumed the MVP race for the past 3 years.
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00:00 - MVP Chaos
02:44 - The Calm Before The Storm, 2021 Race
06:52 - Voter Fatigue to Giannis
09:12 - Setting The Stage
10:28 - Narratives Affecting MVP’s
12:33 - How Joel Embiid Lost The 2022 MVP
19:31 - Voter Fatigue and Narratives to James Harden
21:50 - How Nikola Jokic Lost The 2023 MVP
27:57 - MVP Misconceptions

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@adamnouboud3577
@adamnouboud3577 10 месяцев назад
Embiid’s MVP has already aged poorly
@justinholland6132
@justinholland6132 10 месяцев назад
So has the every mvp since 2015 curry was the last guy to win mvp and finals
@string7135
@string7135 10 месяцев назад
@@justinholland6132??? Mvp doesn’t mean champion
@justinholland6132
@justinholland6132 10 месяцев назад
@@string7135e’s saying that because embiid did not pass the expectations of him/didn’t play well enough in the playoffs. But so has the last 8 MVPs since curry. What happens in the playoffs should be irrelevant. Great white hope/jokic fanboys are so hypocritical
@roboninja3194
@roboninja3194 10 месяцев назад
@@justinholland6132 Did ya not watch the video? Idiots saying Jokic shouldn't win the MVP in 2023 because he's not had success in the postseason. You said the postseason should be irrelevant to the MVP voting but these media idiots were holding post season failure against Jokic while voting for Embiid who hasn't made it past the 2nd round. And somehow Jokic fans are hypocritical? 🤣Ok.
@Leroyscaand
@Leroyscaand 10 месяцев назад
MVP is a regular season award you dope
@botanistedward
@botanistedward 10 месяцев назад
It's such a strange argument to give it to someone else because Jokic hasn't been successful in the finals. When was the last time Embiid made it into the finals?
@blue-phoenix115
@blue-phoenix115 10 месяцев назад
I thought MVP was a regular season award as well.
@gb342002
@gb342002 10 месяцев назад
I mean you could argue that Giannis should have his 3rd by now too. Embiid is a joke
@JustCallMeRock
@JustCallMeRock 10 месяцев назад
Denver probably had the easiest championship in recent memory, like did any of the teams they play have over 45 wins
@andrei_conlai1875
@andrei_conlai1875 10 месяцев назад
​@@JustCallMeRockthe Lakers were an anomaly: they had a record below 45 but that was because they had a bad team composition until the end of the tradeline, after that they managed to build a good and solid team and If you take the record after the end of the tradeline you'll get one above 45
@user-pi5ew6jj2q
@user-pi5ew6jj2q 10 месяцев назад
@@JustCallMeRock To be fair the west was so stacked that any team could’ve lost, so u can’t really say that it was easy. I mean 7th seed that nobody thought would make the play in made it to the cf, and did it kinda easily.
@qull3840
@qull3840 10 месяцев назад
Embiid went on social and whining about stats to get everyone's attention. Meanwhile, Jokic deleted his social media because it's "a waste of time". That's how vastly different their mentality is. One is a jealous kid with big talent, another is a mature dad with the right mindset for life.
@patriciamccormick9321
@patriciamccormick9321 9 месяцев назад
Once the MVP became a distraction Jokic sat out games because of an “injury”. He doesn’t care about individual awards, he was focused on the Finals and ended up winning the WCF and Finals MVP.
@tapeab1e
@tapeab1e 6 месяцев назад
​@@patriciamccormick9321 I don't think he really cares about anything the media thinks to be honest. It honestly seems like this is just an office job to fund his hobbies like raising horses. He does what they tell him to, usually doesn't throw a fuss, and does it well.
@angelosicat7350
@angelosicat7350 5 месяцев назад
But the mature dad is also talented and could drop 50 pts 20 rebs and 12 assists in his sleep.
@chadbrisco4042
@chadbrisco4042 4 месяца назад
I wouldn't call Jokic mature by any means. He's very aggressive off the court.
@anonymous-hz2un
@anonymous-hz2un 4 месяца назад
​@chadbrisco4042 compared to most NBA players he's straight up Yoda
@whatthebeardoin3160
@whatthebeardoin3160 10 месяцев назад
They really tried to make it about Jokic's race as if become the best center in the NBA out of Serbia(a country I guarantee most NBA fans and analysts couldn't find on a map) is somehow easier than what Embiid or any other player did. Being great is hard, breaking out as a foreign player is even harder.
@todo9633
@todo9633 10 месяцев назад
Serbia is a huge basketball country too, always has been
@L_87
@L_87 10 месяцев назад
Racist doing racist stuff
@vclll
@vclll 10 месяцев назад
Just pathetic to make it about race. So horrible that they did this and tried to race bait the mvp race and n the NBA. Politics should not exist in sports. But it does far too much. Just disgusting
@BigBroKuma
@BigBroKuma 10 месяцев назад
Not really it was just about the Sixers having a better record than the Nuggets as well as Embid having more points than Jokic as well as Jokic's deficiencies on defense that aren't really his fault since he can't increase his athleticism.As well as the Nuggets not deserving the #1 seed due to teams like the Lakers and Warriors faltering in the reg season. That was really the main narrative since the MVP is a regular season award and many believed the Sixers were gonna make a huge playoff push. Perkins was just out of pocket with that bullshit 😂 he's main goal was probably to just get reactions like what Skip Bayles does with his nonsense
@BigBroKuma
@BigBroKuma 10 месяцев назад
​@@vclllIkr the worst part is that there were so many other ways to argue for an MVP for Embid without that bullshit that he calls a narrative and he chose race 🤦🏾‍♂️
@yodatscrazy981
@yodatscrazy981 10 месяцев назад
In my personal opinion I knew this race was a joke when the media kept accusing Jokic of stat padding while Embiid was bragging about his ppg in interviews directly after losses 😂
@TrumanStalls18
@TrumanStalls18 10 месяцев назад
Not to mention JE is a foul merchant.
@owensunuwar697
@owensunuwar697 10 месяцев назад
Also they always brought in playoff records.. When embid hasn't even sniffed conference Finals..
@bregozy3330
@bregozy3330 10 месяцев назад
Embiid literally never did that
@yodatscrazy981
@yodatscrazy981 10 месяцев назад
@@bregozy3330 Postgame interviews after losses to Warriors and Suns
@yodatscrazy981
@yodatscrazy981 10 месяцев назад
@@bregozy3330 March 2023
@98091238
@98091238 10 месяцев назад
I don't have an issue with Embiid winning the MVP award but the toxicity of the media attacks on Jokić from the likes of Nick Wright, Kendrick Perkins, the majority of the FS1 line up etc. that he only wins because he is white, he is a stat padder, he is the worst MVP in history, has cheapened the award, is only rated by calculators etc. was disgraceful
@purpleirklegrovestreet
@purpleirklegrovestreet 10 месяцев назад
They are trying to start a race war, even using sports now
@irsyasalim6679
@irsyasalim6679 10 месяцев назад
Agreed, luckily Jokic didn't care about that stupid things
@stpbasss3773
@stpbasss3773 10 месяцев назад
​@@irsyasalim6679Yeah jokic could give a crap about the media and haters.
@KUbballer049
@KUbballer049 10 месяцев назад
It’s the toxicity combined with a sense of entitlement where they can never admit they had a poor take in the first place. They never actually apologize to jokic they only just make a new take that’s slightly more positive
@student99bg
@student99bg 10 месяцев назад
Exactly! I am not mad that Jokić didn't win his 3rd straight MVP as arguably Giannis should have won his 3rd straight instead of Jokić as well. In either case, Jokić deserved 2 MVPs so far. What I don't like is slander from the media. I remember the fight with Morris as well where only Shaq and Barkley stood with Jokić while everyone else in the media was on Morris's side. Not to mention "the worst MVP in the last 35 years" comment, stat padding accusations and countless other dumb attacks by the media.
@calebos268
@calebos268 10 месяцев назад
Let me get this straight: the argument against Jokic for the MVP is that he struggled in the playoffs in previous seasons, even though it's a regular season award, that is based on how they do this season. (We all know the real argument against him, but even the fake arguments don't make sense lol)
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 8 месяцев назад
Let's go even further. Jokic numbers go up in playoffs, meanwhile the "MVP" have a consistent drop off of at least 8 points, grabbing less boards, giving less assists,shooting worse and having a hell lot of turnovers
@lukebbuff
@lukebbuff 7 месяцев назад
Even though it’s a regular season award, people tend to look at great prior post season to see if a players stats are “empty numbers” or a real contribution to the team. The idea being that if you can’t win (or at least give a valiant effort) with it all on the line you aren’t as good as the numbers look. Not really fair but also not totally illogical.
@NoahBodze
@NoahBodze 7 месяцев назад
Black people can't stand to be reminded that white boys can dominate a game white people invented - especially if that white boy comes from Europe. They aren't complex people. Petty and violent, mostly.
@Jamellii
@Jamellii 6 месяцев назад
​@@RomnysGonzalezeven further that that, the fraudulent mvp struggled against a rebuilding nets team despite the 4-0 sweep
@crystalizedExposed
@crystalizedExposed 6 месяцев назад
the mvp race is 50% stats, 50% narrative. lebron, mj, and many others have been robbed of 3 time mvps by narratives, jokic is just next in line
@bigtimeaxe0915
@bigtimeaxe0915 10 месяцев назад
As a Nuggets fan, I’m glad Embiid won MVP this year because the last couple years, everyone has been making out Jokic to be the villain and trashing him. Now that Embiid has won MVP it’s the other way around. Glad Jokic is able to back up his two MVPs. Would much rather have champions than MVPs
@droid_727gilbertandroid2
@droid_727gilbertandroid2 5 месяцев назад
Celtics fan here, Joker got robbed for sure and got caught in NBA politics. Jordan, kobe, LeBrons people in the league did not want Joker to have 3 mvps.
@d3adyoutubeaccount
@d3adyoutubeaccount 2 месяца назад
Jokic didn’t deserve his MVPs, those were Giannis award, Giannis probably deserved it over Embiid too
@dhendroid2373
@dhendroid2373 Месяц назад
Lol
@roosterslime9430
@roosterslime9430 10 месяцев назад
I think the best thing is Jokic’s humbleness and respect on full display. He defended Embiid after all the backlash in the playoffs and stated that he believed Embiid deserved the award more. This is even after Embiid’s and media attacks on Jokic.
@Shadrake
@Shadrake 10 месяцев назад
I know right , the guy's character is immensely respectable, especially for the NBA.
@adriandaliva1341
@adriandaliva1341 10 месяцев назад
It speaks volumes about his upbringing and character as not only a player, but as a person. It's objectively impossible to not like this dude.
@randygram9310
@randygram9310 10 месяцев назад
@@adriandaliva1341 Well ... some people had ESPN apparently don't like him. But they're idiots and jerks....
@anamethattellsastory6648
@anamethattellsastory6648 10 месяцев назад
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@samb123078
@samb123078 10 месяцев назад
Jokic just doesn’t care. And that makes him the real winner. The one punch man of the NBA.
@astray4525
@astray4525 10 месяцев назад
We're likely going to get a 4th and maybe a 5th part. Problem is that the debate over who's better is dead since Embiid has been labeled a playoff choker and Jokic had one of the most dominant postseason performances in history capped off with a ring and FMVP.
@Alex-sj2gq
@Alex-sj2gq 10 месяцев назад
Yeah I think Joel completely lost the voters trust after these playoffs. I’d be surprised if he even finishes second ever again unless he wins a ring.
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 10 месяцев назад
Ya Embiid got mowed down. I like Embiid but he's a #2 option if u wanna win a chip
@WarGhoulKharas
@WarGhoulKharas 10 месяцев назад
​@@cappy2282Shit. He's 0-5 in the playoff series in the second round. He collapses like a neutron star. I'd take Curry before I take Embiid.
@ObiC
@ObiC 10 месяцев назад
@@WarGhoulKharaswho tf wouldn’t take curry over anyone rn 💀😭
@Gurrrrlllzzzzz7
@Gurrrrlllzzzzz7 10 месяцев назад
@@ObiC I would rather have giannis or Jokic or curry
@milktea2422
@milktea2422 10 месяцев назад
As soon as Jokic got into the finals I no longer saw anyone mentioning the media talking about Jokic never being to the finals affecting a regular season award. Literally all I remembered was how some media members were saying: “jokic doesn’t have post season success” and once he got to the finals it was radio silence, if you bring it up, embiid cock riders didn’t say it happened. And I was like: wtf? It’s clear whose always been better now. Someone who did well without help, Vs someone who almost always had help.
@blaowskiton
@blaowskiton 10 месяцев назад
Jamal Murray isn't considered help?
@milktea2422
@milktea2422 10 месяцев назад
@@blaowskiton jamal Murray was injured for the last two seasons.
@blaowskiton
@blaowskiton 10 месяцев назад
@@milktea2422 ok, and they won the chip this year when he was healthy. Murray is a star and a big reason why Denver won this year.
@mrboast2826
@mrboast2826 10 месяцев назад
​@@blaowskitonDidn't Embidd got helped by star too like Harden and Jimmy Bucket yet they can't past second round
@blaowskiton
@blaowskiton 10 месяцев назад
@@mrboast2826 the heat made it to the finals tho 🤔
@whoevencares5562
@whoevencares5562 10 месяцев назад
The reason why Jokic’s championship was brought up as a “see, he should’ve won the MVP award” is cause the two main arguments that gave Embiid the MVP award were “he deserves to be on the scoreboard with Giannis and Jokic”, and “How can we give Jokic the MVP when he chokes in the playoffs”. They tried to say Embiid was a playoffs riser while Jokic was was a playoffs dropper or some shit.
@brianbadonde9251
@brianbadonde9251 7 месяцев назад
It's funny because Jokic never choked in the playoffs, the team around him just was never enough, he was always missing players or the guys he had just weren't playoff scorers. But he himself always had great stats in the playoffs including effiency
@bmsuperstar1
@bmsuperstar1 5 месяцев назад
Not only did Jokić not choke, but he was noticeably better in the playoffs. He's a leader through and through. Couple of points more on average for Embiid means nothing. And as for defense, Jokić is absolutely a better overall defender than Joel Embiid. Embiid is a better time protector, but that's about it. Outside players humiliate him each and every game, especially come playoffs. Criticizing Jokić for lack of so called "athleticism" is just a critic of him being a white man, because defensively he's above Embiid for sure.
@d3adyoutubeaccount
@d3adyoutubeaccount 2 месяца назад
@@bmsuperstar1the fact you said Jokic was a better defender than Embiid instantly made your argument bias
@d3adyoutubeaccount
@d3adyoutubeaccount 2 месяца назад
It’s a regular season award, that was always a trash argument
@bmsuperstar1
@bmsuperstar1 Месяц назад
@@d3adyoutubeaccount No, it makes my argument - argumented. Embiid is not only a worse defender than Jokić, but he's way worse. Analitics don't lie. Jokić is a top 15 defender in the NBA.
@Eazy_P_40
@Eazy_P_40 10 месяцев назад
Jokic, Embiid, and Giannis all had great seasons, and this was supposedly the “closest mvp race in years.” Embiid winning by a landslide vote showed exactly where the bias was from the media.
@PlanetOfTheApes999
@PlanetOfTheApes999 10 месяцев назад
Yep, they had to give it to someone who wasn't white or from Europe.
@gnomechomsky2524
@gnomechomsky2524 10 месяцев назад
yeah didn't he get like 77% of the first place votes? if it was as close as they made it out to be each player should've gotten like 32-35% lol
@MrYoujordan
@MrYoujordan 10 месяцев назад
@@PlanetOfTheApes999 that makes no sense LMAO white people swear they persecuted...... its called voter fatigue & jokic hadnt won anything up until this season there have been quite a few examples of people not winning multiple MVPs even though they deserved it because they always fell short in the playoffs. Please leave being american or race out of the basketball talks (we all know steve nash won 2 mvps that he shouldnt have over black american born black players and he is a white guy from canada)
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 10 месяцев назад
​@@gnomechomsky2524one guy didn't even have Jokic in his candidates. Dude had Sabonis.
@donali9020
@donali9020 10 месяцев назад
@@gnomechomsky2524narrative based award statistically they wereall similar but Embiid closed out the season better than Giannis and especially Jokic and was the only one out of the 3 to not win the award all 3 had dominant seasons and deserved to win but just because Jokic won in the playoffs doesn’t mean Embiid didn’t deserve his MVP
@siphillis
@siphillis 10 месяцев назад
The reason people cite Jokić's incredible playoff run against Embiid's now signature choke-job is because the principle argument for Embiid is that he's actually the better player. This season proved, beyond all doubt, that he's not even close.
@ass640
@ass640 10 месяцев назад
Jokic is one of the top 10 players of all time. Embiid is somewhere between 190-200.
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 месяцев назад
@@ass640he’s not top 10. He could potentially get there but he’s not there yet
@fabledredd4481
@fabledredd4481 10 месяцев назад
@@taj3618 he has several records and has achieve more now than most do in a full career. he is top 10 easily. Shaq one of the biggest bigman haters said "true definition of a great player." "This guy is super impressive as a big man, and I'm happy I got to see him live,"
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 месяцев назад
@@fabledredd4481 who is your top 10?
@fabledredd4481
@fabledredd4481 10 месяцев назад
@@taj3618 I cant order them but, MJ, Kobe, Lebron, joker, bird, kareem, magic, hakeem, 2000s shaq and im not sure who else, last spot has too many i wanna put.
@Shhhh....DaMoviesOn
@Shhhh....DaMoviesOn 10 месяцев назад
This video is dope because I thought I was the only person who felt this way, I'm a fan who thought Kobe was shafted multiple times but not Embid, he just isn't it right now. Jocic should've had his third MVP this year. Period.
@giffysstiffy8874giffytuck
@giffysstiffy8874giffytuck 9 месяцев назад
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@NoahBodze
@NoahBodze 7 месяцев назад
He's the Ichiro-meets-Messi of the NBA right now. Jokic is not just great in context of the modern game, but also as an outsider-innovator. The structure of basketball has to be played differently when a big can play like a false nine in soccer, attacking space and drawing out defenses. He's making others adjust to him.
@dreamcreationmedia4000
@dreamcreationmedia4000 10 месяцев назад
Jokic was a true unselfish team player and made his whole team better. Isn’t that the true definition of MVP.
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
it would be unfair if Jokic got 3 MVPs
@nikolayjerev9285
@nikolayjerev9285 9 месяцев назад
@jacksonhowe8486 in your poor mentality yes
@dreamcreationmedia4000
@dreamcreationmedia4000 9 месяцев назад
@@nikolayjerev9285 this is my opinion which I have a right to have and has nothing to do with my mentality.
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
@@nikolayjerev9285 do you really think it would be fair for the other players
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
@@nikolayjerev9285 I probably know more basketball than you
@NenadTrajkovic
@NenadTrajkovic 10 месяцев назад
Believe me, Nikola is not competing with anyone for any award, he just works hard to win the game, unless it's about horses. Greetings from Sombor, Vojvodina, Serbia🇷🇸
@Toketree
@Toketree 10 месяцев назад
That sucks to be you 😂
@jilaxwest9770
@jilaxwest9770 10 месяцев назад
@@Toketree what a poes you are , i agree with you @NenadTrajkovic
@pittland44
@pittland44 10 месяцев назад
Greetings from Arvada, Colorado, U.S.A. What's the weather in Serbia like right now?
@FrozenzFirez
@FrozenzFirez 9 месяцев назад
Correction ... he is competing with himself only, cos no one else comes close. Embiid winning the award is the biggest joke of the decade, which includes a bubble title. And ppl wonder why NBA ratings are so poor.
@vladakg6045
@vladakg6045 9 месяцев назад
​@@pittland44very nice a bit too hot
@cyrillesu
@cyrillesu 10 месяцев назад
It wasn't just that Embiid won over the more deserving Jokic, but it was how he and the media got him that MVP. Bro literally couldn't stop talking about how he was "robbed" and idiots like Kendrick Perkins and Nick Wright downplayed Jokic's season all year long. Hell, you have guys like Mark Jackson leaving Jokic completely off of his ballot. Yeah, they don't like the Joker.
@thomasmotooka2937
@thomasmotooka2937 10 месяцев назад
The race card was played too often in this race. The journalist got influenced by the political narrative spewed out by the race activists.
@M.L.official
@M.L.official 10 месяцев назад
Mark Jackson needs to have his vote revoked after what he did. That's honestly bullshit. There's no excuse of "oh he just made a mistake". Nope. You don't make mistakes at that level. If you haven't heard about jokic, that's on you. He's reigning MVP, and now a champion. I don't care if he votes for jokic henceforth every single year, he does not deserve to keep his voting privilege.
@thomasmotooka2937
@thomasmotooka2937 10 месяцев назад
@@M.L.official Can’t believe they can get so many people to take the race bait.
@mongoslade277
@mongoslade277 10 месяцев назад
​@@M.L.officialThat's why Mark Jackson NON COACHING ASS will Never get a another job as head coach in the NBA
@MrSuperman957
@MrSuperman957 10 месяцев назад
Mark Jackson was a mistake.
@supermario_49
@supermario_49 10 месяцев назад
Embiid clearly did not deserve the MVP this season. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an MVP awarded more undeservingly and handed out of pity. I seriously don’t know how you could argue that he was the better player. Jokic should have won his 3rd straight MVP but the media did not allow it. Edit: Just finished the video. Well done! Very detailed!
@iceinmyveins7521
@iceinmyveins7521 9 месяцев назад
If you think Embiid didn’t deserve the mvp at all you are lying to yourself or you just aren’t worth discussing basketball with
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 9 месяцев назад
@@iceinmyveins7521He didn’t deserve it over jokic
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
@@Abbad1579 he had a better regular season which is what MVP is for
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 9 месяцев назад
@@jacksonhowe8486 He did not have a better regular season than Jokic
@davide4725
@davide4725 7 месяцев назад
@@iceinmyveins7521He had less wins, worse FG and TS%, less assists and rebounds; AND he ducked Jokic head to head the same weekend he went on a media tour begging for the award. There's only two universes where Embiid deserved MVP over Jokic. The universe where the scoring title is MVP and the universe where the player with most FTs is the MVP. People like you that are so adamant about defending it make it more clear, 2023's MVP wasn't about who was most valuable, it was about 'who's really good and hasn't had a turn yet'.
@rayrayschnapps8217
@rayrayschnapps8217 10 месяцев назад
It only looked close because Embiid and Giannis had much higher usage rates. To me the same or similar impact using fewer possessions would be more valuable.
@heath6825
@heath6825 10 месяцев назад
Funny how post season success suddenly mattered when it came to giving Jokic MVP, so they give it to Embiid who has yet to make it past the 2nd round lol
@Alex-sj2gq
@Alex-sj2gq 10 месяцев назад
I think they used that argument only because it would have been his third straight mvp.
@TheMarslMcFly
@TheMarslMcFly 10 месяцев назад
@@Alex-sj2gq NBA Media is a joke. But that's nothing new
@tysnyder7474
@tysnyder7474 10 месяцев назад
​@Alex-sj2gq they were also saying that after jokics first, and second mvps when he got bounced
@georgeprchal3924
@georgeprchal3924 10 месяцев назад
They also brought up defense which has never mattered before.
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 месяцев назад
It matter when it came to giving him a 3rd straight mvp. Embiid didn’t have 1 yet. They did the same thing to Giannis
@downbadichigo9331
@downbadichigo9331 10 месяцев назад
It’s actually so sad to see that Jokic got CHEATED out of his 3rd mvp because a shitty narrative from Kendrick Perkins of all people got to the voters and they had to give it to Embiid to avoid backlash
@TCKarmaSK
@TCKarmaSK 10 месяцев назад
Embiid kinda got screwed outta mvp in 2022 and 2022
@TCKarmaSK
@TCKarmaSK 10 месяцев назад
2021
@downbadichigo9331
@downbadichigo9331 10 месяцев назад
@@TCKarmaSK i believe that, I genuinely thought Embiid was the best player in the league in ‘21 and ‘22, and I didn’t really like Jokic winning mvp as a 6th seed but this year shouldn’t have even been close honestly
@TCKarmaSK
@TCKarmaSK 10 месяцев назад
@@downbadichigo9331 I believe that in the regular season at least, Embiid had a case against Jokic for being the better player. Obviously a better scorer and more impactful defender, yet Jokic maybe offered so much more offensively that Jokic was better than Embiid. Just a opinion though.
@Nightcrawler90210
@Nightcrawler90210 10 месяцев назад
The way y’all believe Perkins has influence in mvp voting is hilarious 💀
@nervosuu
@nervosuu 10 месяцев назад
Prior to this season and Jokic winning a championship, they had very similar careers and it amazes me how much the media favors Embiid. Embiid had never made the conference finals where Jokic had, they both struggled through missing teammates for one reason or another during seasons where they were both relatively favored to win their conferences. But all of these factors were somehow used to favor Embiid this year- Jokic’s lack of playoff success (ignoring going further in the playoffs than Embiid), media siding with Simmons issues over Murray and Porter injuries. I’m not surprised , but I am amazed.
@broncosbeat8539
@broncosbeat8539 10 месяцев назад
The Nuggets werent "struggling" to end the year. They smoked memphis and essentially locked up the 1 seed and started coasting. A couple of the big games in there like vs Milwaukee they'd turn the burners back on. That kind of stuff is what made Nuggets fans red hot in the playoffs.
@TheSlinkerDog
@TheSlinkerDog 10 месяцев назад
The narrative around Jokic not having playoff success has always confused me. Jamal Murray, the Nuggets' clear 2nd best player missed all of the '21 AND '22 playoffs. MPJ missed all of the '22 playoffs. The only time Jokic and Murray played together, at ages 25 and only 23(!), they lost in the conference finals to the eventual champion Lakers. Most big players will get some credit for doing what they can with an injury-riddled team, just not Jokic.
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 месяцев назад
He did get credit tho. He won 2 MVPs as the 6 seed
@thetruth4654
@thetruth4654 10 месяцев назад
@@taj3618 Let`s not act like the 6th seed actually matters, considering there was only like a 3 game difference between 6th and 2th(While Embiid had a way better team btw.)
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 месяцев назад
@@thetruth4654 it was an 8 game difference. And it does matter. How often does a player win mvp on the 6th seed? Embiid had the better team but that due to injuries. They weren’t world beaters
@dewman7477
@dewman7477 10 месяцев назад
@@taj3618what 8 game difference? In 2021-2022 season Jokic had no squad basically just a bunch of journeyman outside of 4th real option Gordon
@TheSlinkerDog
@TheSlinkerDog 10 месяцев назад
@taj3618 This season alone, I've seen 20+ sports commentators criticize Jokic and/or say he didn't deserve this MVP because of his lack of playoff success...
@Jinx-oi7hb
@Jinx-oi7hb 10 месяцев назад
The problem with saying it’s just a regular season award is the fact that Jokic’s lack of a championship was a HUGE narrative reason to not give him a 3peat MVP, but on the other hand, people were completely ignoring the fact that Embiid is the only MVP ever to not get to so much as the conference finals. A lot of people including most sixers fans switched up on that after Embiid choked in game 7
@Miles_305
@Miles_305 10 месяцев назад
💯 even as a Heat fan, you gotta love Joker. He is now the best player in the league overall. I don't think it's particularly close tbh.
@uchihabean9689
@uchihabean9689 10 месяцев назад
twitter after that game 7 was flaming him💀
@Deriv44
@Deriv44 10 месяцев назад
​@uchihabean9689 What do you mean Joker got his 3rd MVP award in The NBA Finals with the Title 😂😅😅😊
@1GmO2
@1GmO2 10 месяцев назад
@@Miles_305facts. Hate that he destroyed us (Miami Heat) but you gotta respect him. Guy should have won his 3rd MVP
@Toketree
@Toketree 10 месяцев назад
It’s a regular season award tf you talking about? The playoffs had nothing to do with either one getting or not getting the award my god you people are clowns🤡🤡🤡🤡
@bigjoocy1185
@bigjoocy1185 10 месяцев назад
This is very well made props to you my dude
@CYBERRCELL
@CYBERRCELL 10 месяцев назад
very very cool of you to include the tracklist - earned a sub
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 10 месяцев назад
If ESPN had any integrity they would have fired Perk and apologized for his stupidity
@jesstiss222
@jesstiss222 10 месяцев назад
I thought that too until I realized who has been creating all the Jokic hate narratives and likely put Porkins up to it. He’s just a hired media goon. But they should all be ashamed of themselves.
@jesstiss222
@jesstiss222 10 месяцев назад
The wild MVP stakes was fine until they made it gross by making it a race thing smh
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 10 месяцев назад
@@jesstiss222 Ya I have no problem with building a narrative and being hyperbolic but we don't need lying and race hustling (we get enough of that from regular media outlets) First Perkins said Jokic was "stat padding" which was ridiculous, but the racial narrative was absolutely absurd
@AspireGMD
@AspireGMD 10 месяцев назад
He's black, they need him for their image.
@randomuruk7230
@randomuruk7230 10 месяцев назад
​@@AspireGMDYea but just get a smarter and less cognitively impaired replacement. Perk is bottom of the barrel.
@Operator-Nova
@Operator-Nova 10 месяцев назад
Im sorry but if one of the arguments for Jokic not winning a third straight MVP is because the “lack” of playoff success, then the argument of “we can’t take away from Embiid’s season because he choked in the playoffs” is incorrect. If it affects one, then it MUST affect the other.
@justc1re617
@justc1re617 10 месяцев назад
Especially when one player has been to two conference finals in the last 4 years and the other player hasn't ever been to one
@Joesidon
@Joesidon 10 месяцев назад
I thought MVP is a regular season award so playoffs should never matter
@artvallejos1460
@artvallejos1460 10 месяцев назад
Jokic 29 triple doubles during the regular season. Embiid 1 triple double during the season.
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I 10 месяцев назад
White guy: criticized when he fails, criticized when he succeeds but his team fails, criticized when he succeeds and his team is world champions. Black guy: praised when he fails, praised when his team fails, praised when he succeeds, worshipped if his team wins a championship, still praised when he inevitably beats his girlfriend.
@bass7100
@bass7100 10 месяцев назад
They would have to have integrity for that.
@Hexa1123
@Hexa1123 10 месяцев назад
I’ve been waiting for a video like this! Thank you DDB.
@twiss9341
@twiss9341 10 месяцев назад
Impressive video. Thanks for the content ❤
@jimjimhuerta
@jimjimhuerta 10 месяцев назад
Crazy how Jokic went to his first WCF while Joel is a constant first/second round exit , yet people slam jokic for his “success” Joel cried for MVP and people ran with it.
@x9gio
@x9gio 10 месяцев назад
exactly what happened. n ppl act like embiid so beast at defense yet the media will still believe it when he got exposed by the celtics
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 10 месяцев назад
​@@x9gioTatum turned him into a washing machine. Had that man spinning in circles.
@leonardoyi3183
@leonardoyi3183 10 месяцев назад
in fact, this was the second WCF of jokic. First one was in 2020...
@SubtleVibess
@SubtleVibess 10 месяцев назад
Second WCF, first Finals
@huxleybennett4732
@huxleybennett4732 10 месяцев назад
@@leonardoyi3183 I think that's what he's saying, Jokic had already gone to a CF whereas Embiid hadn't, and yet people were like "Jokic can't win again when he's not gone to a finals...let's give it to Embiid"
@BoneSaw0891
@BoneSaw0891 10 месяцев назад
Embiid crying all off-season already had everyone ready to give him pity votes, but Perkins making it about race sealed it for him.
@javiercampos2196
@javiercampos2196 6 месяцев назад
Loved that you use Melee music amazing video my friend!
@londonspong5352
@londonspong5352 10 месяцев назад
Leavin a like and scrollin on. Forget the video. Great title my man!!
@PlanetOfTheApes999
@PlanetOfTheApes999 10 месяцев назад
The other thing is that Embiid keeps boasting that he's the greatest player in the NBA and deserves the MVP and much, much more. He's arrogant and selfish. Jokic and Giannis never behave this way, and they were the ones that played well enough in the regular season to be deserving of a shot at the MVP.
@randygram9310
@randygram9310 10 месяцев назад
I also like the way Giannis thanked his fired coach on Twitter for 5 positive years together on the Bucks. Not a Bucks fan but Giannis comes across as a decent human being as well as a great player. In the meantime ... Devin Booker pissing on his fired coach on Twitter .... Embiid blaming his teammates for losing to Boston.
@WarGhoulKharas
@WarGhoulKharas 10 месяцев назад
You're forgetting that Embiid throws more people under the bus than Greyhound luggage.
@MineFullStop
@MineFullStop 10 месяцев назад
What turned me off about Embiid was the interview he did about Jokic saying all these things about a guy who has never said anything bad about Embiid, if anything Jokic has always talked nicely about him. What tops it all off was when Embiid said "what has he accomplished?" Wtf? How can he say that when Joel hasn't even been past the 2nd round while Jokic at least made the WCF.
@vladimird8541
@vladimird8541 10 месяцев назад
​@@MineFullStopThat's why I don't like him at all. He could be the greatest player ever who played the game, but he's gonna be remembered as a lousy human being. Slandering Joker behind his back and throwing teammates under the bus. Excuses and not taking responsibility for anything. Pitiful.
@PlanetOfTheApes999
@PlanetOfTheApes999 10 месяцев назад
@@vladimird8541 I have to wonder whether his awful personality is why he can't lead his team to victory in the playoffs. It's easy to dominate weak teams during the regular season, but you need to have strong leadership to win in the playoffs.
@krumplin8992
@krumplin8992 10 месяцев назад
What I love about this whole debate is how little Jokic cares. The one finals and two regular MVPs are probably sitting at the back of his shed behind a pile of horseshoes and sugar cubes
@foocw
@foocw 10 месяцев назад
heck, i dont think he himself knows where his finals mvp trophy is! he passed it to a staff and never bothered asking about it again as far as the news i know of goes
@ass640
@ass640 10 месяцев назад
@@foocw Thing is, he will care about all the awards he gathers after he's retired. Some players get completely zoned in to a pro sport as just being their day job in order to relieve the pressure. Ronnie O'Sullivan is a good example of that in Snooker, goes on about how he doesn't really care if he wins or not, just wants to enjoy the game... but you can tell that's a lie, he just tells himself that but his competitiveness shines through in game. Joker is the same, except he just plays it all off. Basketball is a 15-20 year career at best. After that you've got a long life to live, and you can enjoy all of your success then, just like any other job, where you work for a long time, then you get your pension and do what you want.
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 10 месяцев назад
@@ass640 You think? He seems to have his life away from basketball pretty much figured out. I'm sure he'll look back with fond memories, but I doubt he cares as much as some of the other greats about the MVP. The culture he comes from is far different than US culture so he might just be chasing winning the championship and not care too much about individual awards, I don't think he's playing it off as much as you think he is.
@jonathansykes4986
@jonathansykes4986 10 месяцев назад
@@ass640 There is absolutely no way that's true. In 10 years when Jokic retires, the public will not hear from him. He will be doing what he enjoys and he might show up for some celebratory NBA/Nuggets nights.
@LiangXiaoyung
@LiangXiaoyung 10 месяцев назад
@@foocw he had it at the parade, a staff member took it and shined it up for him. But yeah, he misplaced it for the interview and laughed about it.
@999demonyouth7
@999demonyouth7 10 месяцев назад
i love when u post
@fidelcashflow35
@fidelcashflow35 10 месяцев назад
Great video man
@crablord7934
@crablord7934 10 месяцев назад
Saying Jokic doesn’t deserve it because he hasn't had playoff success and then giving it to Embiid, who even before this year's playoffs hadn't ever made it as far as Jokic in the playoffs before is enough proof for how reliable these "experts" are.
@braylo4009
@braylo4009 10 месяцев назад
Honestly this seasons mvp race should make people look at a lot of media personalities as sources that should never be taken serious. Just say anything to paint an ugly narrative ☹️
@braylo4009
@braylo4009 10 месяцев назад
And don’t even bother to make the narrative interesting or realistic either.
@steviechampagne
@steviechampagne 10 месяцев назад
if you’re still forming opinions from mainstream cable media in 2023 it’s time to make a change 😅
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 10 месяцев назад
99% of people in basketball media can't be taken seriously. Especially those at the top, they talk for clicks and hate engagement not actual discussion and analysis.
10 месяцев назад
what a great video once again dylan :D
@ChazCasserole
@ChazCasserole 10 месяцев назад
I need an nfl equivalent of this channel. I’m not even a huge basketball fan but I love your videos. 👍🏻
@socialistbatman1211
@socialistbatman1211 10 месяцев назад
I was under the impression Embiid won because of the last month and a half of the season. The voting seems to not align with that. How could it be so one sided when Giannis’s team was way ahead of everyone for most of the year, the Nuggets were number 1 in the West for the whole year? Embiid’s defense was great, but it wasnt so spectacular that it outshined Giannis’s defense. Jokic definitely was not bad defensively this year. Embiid was the leading scorer, averaging over 30, but is that so much more valuable than guys that averages more rebounds and assists with better records? In the case of Jokic, the difference in assists is insane, in the case of Giannis, there’s only like 2 points separating them.
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 месяцев назад
I think it’s cause Embiid played more games than Giannis and the Sixers had a better record than the Nuggets, even tho they led the West. It really came down to voter fatigue. I think a lot of people felt Embiid should’ve won 1 of the previous 2 MVPs so they had to give him this 1
@Va11idus
@Va11idus 10 месяцев назад
​@@taj3618how can Embiid be the MVP when his team had a higher win rate when he was out? That's the opposite of being valuable.
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 месяцев назад
@@Va11idus 1) it’s a 16 game sample size 2) look at who they played and you’ll see most of the games were against non playoff teams 3) Giannis team also had winning record without him. You’re not going to the Bucks are better without Giannis
@Va11idus
@Va11idus 10 месяцев назад
@@taj3618 are you unironically suggesting that Embiid is as valuable to his team as Jokic?
@taj3618
@taj3618 10 месяцев назад
@@Va11idus have you ever heard of voter fatigue?
@1flxrist
@1flxrist 10 месяцев назад
So Giannis and jokic didn’t get 3 straight because of voter fatigue and playoff success but embiid can win it over Giannis and jokic without getting out the East wtf is that about
@WarGhoulKharas
@WarGhoulKharas 10 месяцев назад
Personally I thought Giannis deserved it the year he won his chip. No hate.
@averagecoasterenjoyer
@averagecoasterenjoyer 10 месяцев назад
@@WarGhoulKharas If this cycle continues the Sixers will win a championship in two years and Embiid will repeat as MVP this year
@ethanc999
@ethanc999 10 месяцев назад
Love your videos man!
@mekacrab
@mekacrab 9 месяцев назад
Voters shouldn't take into account what said players did the years prior. Just look at what the player did this season, if he was in the finals last season or not shouldn't matter.
@TheGoogergieger
@TheGoogergieger 10 месяцев назад
It’s only toxic and has been toxic because of Embiid and his fans. Oh and his propagandists in the media. There really has never been a basketball argument as to why he is better or more deserving of the mvp over Jokic or Giannis. Even the people that finally voted for him this year said it was because he should get at least one cause the other two have two mvps. But he ain’t a better defender than Giannis or better offensive player than Jokic. I’m glad this finals run also finally proved to EVERYONE that the gap between Jokic on offense is massive while the defensive gap is not that big. It’s literally just shot blocking and nothing else. Voters robbed basketball fans of an even more historic run by not giving the mvp to the actual most deserving player.
@zod548
@zod548 10 месяцев назад
The gap on defense is large if you ask me, watched Jokic the whole playoff run, he doesn’t alter nearly as many shots, and guys attack with pure confidence it’s beyond just the blocks. Outside of that, yeah the gap is huge offensively
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 10 месяцев назад
​@@zod548I feel like Jayson Tatum absolutely playing with Embiid for a record setting game 7 kind of refutes that argument that the gap is so amazingly large.
@stefanvujadinovic9991
@stefanvujadinovic9991 10 месяцев назад
@@zod548 Your eye test is not really all that important, no offense. Nuggets don't allow many shots at the rim and those that were "allowed" players converted on like 38%, which is absolutely elite. Little digging beats the eye test in 100% of the cases.
@matija9540
@matija9540 10 месяцев назад
⁠@@zod548Jokic has a better DBPM, Defensive WS and Defensive RTG throughout his entire career than Embiid. Embiid’s defense just looks flashy because he blocks a lot of shots.
@zod548
@zod548 10 месяцев назад
@@matija9540 there’s no way you watched these games and come to me with unreliable defensive stats lol
@MrPerceptiveReality
@MrPerceptiveReality 10 месяцев назад
All Joel wanted was MVP and he got it. The Joker Got a Chip and Finals MVP. We all know who the better big man is.
@hypnotist1200
@hypnotist1200 10 месяцев назад
Exactly embiid selfish af.
@cappy2282
@cappy2282 10 месяцев назад
Ya that's was my problem with Joel. He seems like his season goals are winning MVP lol
@astriddececco3005
@astriddececco3005 10 месяцев назад
​@@cappy2282He even said that the game against Jokic in Philly was his personal Superbowl. Jokic treated it like a regular season game but to Joel, it was his final.
@kappaman1994
@kappaman1994 10 месяцев назад
Yes… it is EMBIID
@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte 10 месяцев назад
@@astriddececco3005 Jokic wasn't even healthy that game and treated it like any other, and still got off to an early 15pt lead. Sixers were force feeding Embiid as much as they could, and weren't able to pull away until they went for broke and just started chucking up threes.
@Speegsy
@Speegsy 10 месяцев назад
Dylan your content is like elite level youtube mvp
@joaquinwarren7204
@joaquinwarren7204 10 месяцев назад
Great video and valid takes
@randygram9310
@randygram9310 10 месяцев назад
I also like the way Giannis thanked his fired coach on Twitter for 5 positive years together on the Bucks. Not a Bucks fan but Giannis comes across as a decent human being as well as a great player. In the meantime ... Devin Booker pissing on his fired coach on Twitter .... Embiid blaming his teammates for losing to Boston.
@kkjwdfjopwekfjopcdsxzdfsdf3967
@kkjwdfjopwekfjopcdsxzdfsdf3967 10 месяцев назад
NBA Media: Jokic should not win a 3rd MVP since he lacks playoff success Also NBA Media: Lets give it to a guy who has been stuck in conference semi-finals purgatory. As much as I hate popular vote, maybe the former is a better option than letting these idiots choose the MVP.
@bhssssss1
@bhssssss1 10 месяцев назад
Jokic won 2 MVPs and got eliminated in the 1st round and got swept in the 2nd
@Puwapupu
@Puwapupu 10 месяцев назад
@@bhssssss1 and went to WCF and this year a champion whats next to ur argument boy !!!
@Puwapupu
@Puwapupu 10 месяцев назад
@@bhssssss1 embich the fake and fraud MVP 5-18 on a game seven lol
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 10 месяцев назад
@@bhssssss1And Embiid hasn’t been past the second round
@kkjwdfjopwekfjopcdsxzdfsdf3967
@kkjwdfjopwekfjopcdsxzdfsdf3967 10 месяцев назад
@@bhssssss1 Your comment does nothing to counter my point.
@dreamcreationmedia4000
@dreamcreationmedia4000 7 месяцев назад
Great job!!
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 10 месяцев назад
Man, these are so good. I feel the EmpLemon inspiration, and I think you do a really good job making it your own without copying him completely. These videos are pretty close to the basketball version of EmpLemon, and that's high praise since there is no better content creator.
@bringinthedope5929
@bringinthedope5929 10 месяцев назад
interesting, i didnt think of this comparison until you said it. would you believe him if he said he didn't know who that was though?
@Alexander_Grant
@Alexander_Grant 10 месяцев назад
@@bringinthedope5929 I wouldn't believe he had never heard of him, he uses a lot of the same music and same effects on the video, it's got quite a bit of editing overlap with the "there may Never Ever be another man as powerful as Stanislav Petrov" video.
@interstellardeskplant
@interstellardeskplant 10 месяцев назад
The only reason joker didn't win is because of kendrick Perkins.
@paulrobinson3213
@paulrobinson3213 7 месяцев назад
It is a shame the media let a functional idiot influence their decision.
@yashsolanki589
@yashsolanki589 10 месяцев назад
I still have no idea why talking heads like Perkins get to have an MVP vote. Mark Jackson, being the idiot he is, left Jokic off his MVP ballot. There needs to be a better voting pool for NBA awards especially now as a players salary is tied down to the fact if he gets into the All NBA teams.
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 10 месяцев назад
The icing on the cake was them having to watch Jokic lead his team to the NBA Finals and winning the Finals MVP
@Desi365
@Desi365 10 месяцев назад
Of'course, but it won't happen, unfortunately
@bigbrytunney8753
@bigbrytunney8753 10 месяцев назад
and a bunch of people just got layed off at ESPN....guess who kept their jobs?
@beshun
@beshun 10 месяцев назад
Great video
@do_it_for_content
@do_it_for_content 2 дня назад
Love the use of Blank Banshee in the soundtrack ❤️
@whatupcuz3688
@whatupcuz3688 10 месяцев назад
I think it is extremely cowardly how Embiid chose to sit out against Jokic and also stat pads at the ends of game. The reason i would say Jokic is more deserving is because he does whatever he can not for individual awards or stats, but so his team can win. He shows up, and even when he missed the last few games of the season it was so he could go on a run in the playoffs. Meanwhile, Embiid begs for the ball from Harden at the end of the game to stat pad and cries to the media that he deserves MVP.
@zod548
@zod548 10 месяцев назад
They just lost game 6 because he stopped demanding the ball, so which is it? And there’s no way he’s scared of Jokic, if anything I’m sure he’d love to play him every game considering how dominant he was, but he definitely cannot seem to handle the altitude
@dfallen4ngel
@dfallen4ngel 10 месяцев назад
@@zod548 your emduck so scared
@matija9540
@matija9540 10 месяцев назад
@@zod548delusional
@zod548
@zod548 10 месяцев назад
@@matija9540 it’s literal facts, he can’t play in the altitude, it’s not a matter of facing Jokic himself , hence why he can play in Philly but not Denver , Embiid isn’t a guy in great shape with as much stamina as Jokic
@zod548
@zod548 10 месяцев назад
@@dfallen4ngel I don’t see what’s to be scared of , Jokic isn’t a challenge for Embiid offensively
@OH_MY_DOGGG
@OH_MY_DOGGG 10 месяцев назад
Jokic did win the MVP in 2023. I don't know why everyone is upset.
@laffyjohansson7005
@laffyjohansson7005 10 месяцев назад
Best comment!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
@bding1738
@bding1738 10 месяцев назад
Would change mvp for fmvp any day of the week
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
mickey mouse fmvp
@Mr_C137
@Mr_C137 10 месяцев назад
Great video!
@teledanhogan4237
@teledanhogan4237 10 месяцев назад
I believe we as fans were robbed of what could’ve been, the greatest season ever played by a center. Jokić shut down the last 1.5 months because of the race narrative in the MVP vote anyone that watched the team all year understands this. He would have played to stay in the first seed.However,The NBA was robbed by a racist / anti Jokić narrative .
@simless282
@simless282 10 месяцев назад
Do you realize that jokic won his first mvp because they didn't want giannis to win his 3rd straight for the SAME reasons?
@crigz8113
@crigz8113 10 месяцев назад
@@simless282 this was a much better MVP choice compared to the Embiid vs Jokic though. In 2020, statistically Jokic was more or less the same as Giannis given that Jokic played more games. This time, Embiid only had ppg in his side given that he is a foul merchant who got exposed in the playoffs. You can ignore the playoffs part and still my point stands.
@peterguidry6084
@peterguidry6084 10 месяцев назад
It would of been in the discussion as the Greatest season by a center but not definitive.
@michaelfrench238
@michaelfrench238 10 месяцев назад
@@crigz8113u just ignoring defense
@RicardoAGuitar
@RicardoAGuitar 10 месяцев назад
We weren't robbed of anything. Jokic did what he did, and the writers missing that didn't erase Jokic's accomplishments
@CBFHVP
@CBFHVP 10 месяцев назад
Embiid winning the MVP is one of the most embarrassing moments in basketball history.
@emilioazpiri8435
@emilioazpiri8435 8 месяцев назад
😐
@RomnysGonzalez
@RomnysGonzalez 8 месяцев назад
One of the worst winners of all time in my opinion
@tornadotom2390
@tornadotom2390 10 месяцев назад
Good video. Worth watching.
@Richxwolf
@Richxwolf 10 месяцев назад
Dylan is one of the only people I stop what I'm doing and watch the video
@slackerofhell
@slackerofhell 10 месяцев назад
Man comes in clutch
@YisroelGoldberg
@YisroelGoldberg 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for this 🙏 the Jokic hate from guys like perk and Keyshawn is unbearable
@navonmyhand7999
@navonmyhand7999 10 месяцев назад
I just don't get the "eye test" and "boring to watch" criticisms. He's so much fun to watch, and compared to Embiid flopping every game & shooting 15 free throws it's no contest who I'd rather sit down and watch.
@ass640
@ass640 10 месяцев назад
@@navonmyhand7999 The "eye test" is all about race to people like Kendrick. They're racists who can't stand the idea of a white serbian guy being the best player in the world, and pretty much a top 10 player of all time now.
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
I hate how everyone hates on Embiid even Jokic flops too
@Danjakkju
@Danjakkju 10 месяцев назад
hey bro i appreciate you using gran turismo 5 ost on 2:44 hahahaha damn nice vid
@Maxxx1musP
@Maxxx1musP 6 месяцев назад
If the MVP is based on the regular season and the post season is not supposed to be a factor, then why did the media keep bringing up Jokic's lack of Finals appearances as a mark against him? Great video BTW👍
@i_fuze_hostages6
@i_fuze_hostages6 10 месяцев назад
He got robbed but he got his chip at the end of the day
@Alex-sj2gq
@Alex-sj2gq 10 месяцев назад
Yeah Idky people are making a big deal he earned the FMVP which is way more valuable than the regular season MVP.
@justinholland6132
@justinholland6132 10 месяцев назад
Didn’t get robbed. Both him jokic and ginnais played awesome this regular season
@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte 10 месяцев назад
But we got robbed of witnessing history, getting to see a player earn his 3rd straight MVP followed by a historic playoff run and Finals MVP.
@DoctorHush
@DoctorHush 10 месяцев назад
@@justinholland6132 He did get robbed, he played noticably better than Embiid
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
@@DoctorHush cap
@kevinzhu6417
@kevinzhu6417 10 месяцев назад
video essays on sports are much less common than other subjects, your channel probably makes some of or the best on RU-vid. Hyped to watch this one
@BiggieTrismegistus
@BiggieTrismegistus 10 месяцев назад
Totally agree. I'm not even really much of an NBA fans but I love Dylan's videos.
@vercettii
@vercettii 10 месяцев назад
That intro was elite
@Noblekidd12
@Noblekidd12 10 месяцев назад
Was not expecting the fire emblem background music 🫡 salute
@rankoorovic7904
@rankoorovic7904 10 месяцев назад
Embid's MVP reminds me of the MVP that David Robinson won in 1995 and then Olajuwon humiliated him in the playoffs Embid didn't play against Jokic but this aged poorly in a week
@pittland44
@pittland44 10 месяцев назад
The only difference is that I think there was a stronger argument for the Admiral than there was for Embiid. There's definitely a comparison to be made there though.
@chronicle_4
@chronicle_4 10 месяцев назад
@@pittland44 Exactly. Dave and Shaq was the one gunning for MVP back then. Olajuwon's Houston was really struggling that season but found the magic button in the playoffs. MVP is a regular season award so makes sense to give it to Dave Robinson. Unlike when Embiid's Sixers is not the top seed while the Nuggets were obviously the #1 team this season. (Heck, even Giannis winning it this year is probably argument as Bucks is top at East).
@pittland44
@pittland44 10 месяцев назад
@@chronicle_4 Was that the year Dave and Shaq were in the race for the scoring title as well? Because they were both on fire at that point. Then what you said happened, Olajuwon and the Rockets turned on the jets in the playoffs and that was all she wrote.
@chronicle_4
@chronicle_4 10 месяцев назад
@@pittland44 the scoring race between shaq and dave as the previous yr i believe.
@UTNatlChamps
@UTNatlChamps Месяц назад
Robinson was a lot better in the regular season than Olajuwon in that season. So there’s not much overlap.
@zettour.
@zettour. 10 месяцев назад
Imagine winning MVP over a guy who leads you in every stat except for points*, blocks, and FT%. Edited for clarity.
@andyhaochizhang
@andyhaochizhang 10 месяцев назад
And to clarify for ppl who don't know, Embiid leads in scoring volume but not efficiency. So Embiid is not really a better scorer but just took more shots where passing might be a better option.
@ronan82
@ronan82 10 месяцев назад
Yep. Jokic (while only .1 point better) has the better PER. He also has 2.6 more Win Shares, probably Embiid's most damning deficiency as this simply proves Jokic was more important to his team. Edited for continuity.
@flyers99jack13
@flyers99jack13 10 месяцев назад
This is a great video
@pfwag
@pfwag 10 месяцев назад
At the end of the day, EVERYBODY knows who the real MVP is and who the affirmative action MVP is.
@jesstiss222
@jesstiss222 10 месяцев назад
Great timeline review of this madness! One critical (imo) point everyone leaves out, Embiid didn’t just duck that one matchup in Denver - he’s only played in Denver TWICE! Once in 2014 and once in 2019, not to mention never getting past the 2nd round of the semifinals. What kind of accolades has he *earned*? But he got his lil binky so whatevs. Tarnished popularity award indeed, thanks Embiid
@jonathanlgill
@jonathanlgill 10 месяцев назад
Also worth noting that Embiid played all the games before and after that Denver game. The "injury" just affected him that one day...
@liamberry43
@liamberry43 10 месяцев назад
I mean Embiid has legitimately been injured or sick in most of those matchups, and didn’t even play his first NBA game until the 2016-17 season so you’re just flat out wrong there. However, i do think he ducked the latest matchup
@Gio-pb5rm
@Gio-pb5rm 10 месяцев назад
My problem is that there is no clear criteria for the award. Sometimes it’s most valuable to their team, best team, best stats, whose game is the most fun for fans, or best story. It’s a very subjective award and every mvp award can be controversial
@brandonjamar
@brandonjamar 10 месяцев назад
that’s kinda just what an award is lol
@fernymaldadanado3250
@fernymaldadanado3250 10 месяцев назад
Everyone will remember Jokic championship, and overlook Embiid’s MVP
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
no one will remember the nuggets championship since it was against a 8th seed
@Luca-yb4sh
@Luca-yb4sh 4 месяца назад
@@jacksonhowe8486 An 8th seed that was better than the 1st and 2nd seed.
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 4 месяца назад
@@Luca-yb4sh still an 8th seed
@Luca-yb4sh
@Luca-yb4sh 4 месяца назад
@@jacksonhowe8486 Stupid logic. They faced the best team to come out of the East.
@aquamarine56
@aquamarine56 Месяц назад
​@@jacksonhowe8486 stupid logic. Heat was ECF champion and outlasted Celtics.😂
@AntoineBandele
@AntoineBandele 10 месяцев назад
"NBA fans have the memory of a goldfish" is a perfect usmmary of this video.
@gabrielcanejo187
@gabrielcanejo187 2 дня назад
Hey Antoine! Good to see you here Man and yeah It Really Is!
@lewishamilton537
@lewishamilton537 10 месяцев назад
People took the mvp away from Jokic because they don’t like it when the same player wins all the time, it’s like when the warriors went bad after KD left for a bit l. Jokic should be a 3 time mvp but Embiid started a media movement to help him win it
@ass640
@ass640 10 месяцев назад
and the funny part about that is, Embiid will never win a ring for the remainder of his career. Jokic will win many more.
@evan3241
@evan3241 10 месяцев назад
embii deserved it
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
@@ass640 how do you know that
@jacksonhowe8486
@jacksonhowe8486 9 месяцев назад
@@ass640 the nuggets have like no bench anymore
@01ment
@01ment 10 месяцев назад
If I were in Jokic's shoes, I would officially declare retreat from any future MVP race and wouldn't accept the trophy even if every so - called expert vote in my favor. He doesn't need to be bothered by the comments of the people who have never touched a basketball, or they have thought it is a football.
@opeth1429
@opeth1429 10 месяцев назад
Well done and interesting video, thank you for the good work! I think the players are interested in the MVP race for several reasons. 1.) They are competitive 2.) They probably get contract bonuses if they win MVP 3.) Having the MVP on the resume may help with contract negotiations. Some fans, on the other hand, enjoy the drama. I for one, don't care about any trophy other than the championship trophy. It seems like that was Nikola Jokic's tack this year as well. Even if he had no MVP trophies, I am betting that Jokic would not trade trophies with Embiid.
@BigBoyDanny123
@BigBoyDanny123 10 месяцев назад
Class video
@garchompdude
@garchompdude 10 месяцев назад
The funniest part of this whole thing is that Jokic clearly doesn’t care about the debate. He just wants to play basketball and win championships. Meanwhile Embiid is out here complaining
@themsuicjunkies
@themsuicjunkies 10 месяцев назад
Lets be clear, he only cares about his horses.
@ekky.febriansyah1
@ekky.febriansyah1 10 месяцев назад
@@themsuicjunkies facts lol, he even didn't care about his finals MVP trophy and left it on the podium. And the most funny thing is on some interview, he said he wants to go home ASAP after the championship parade 😂
@niceone4407
@niceone4407 10 месяцев назад
we all know the joker didn’t get the mvp because they didn’t want him getting three in a row 😂
@masonripton2574
@masonripton2574 10 месяцев назад
I liked the temple of time music at the end
@ickyvicky6882
@ickyvicky6882 10 месяцев назад
You and jxymhighroller are the best youtube basketball commentators out there🙌🏽🙌🏽
@wyattfriend7360
@wyattfriend7360 10 месяцев назад
facts.. facts and education, Jokic shoulda never lost this mvp that's awful. I mean the numbers he put up must be the greatest individual stat line in NBA history.
@Championshiporbust
@Championshiporbust 10 месяцев назад
Hey Dylan been a fan since your 5th video and your growth and how much you’ve improved on your career is inspiring and incredible to watch. Don’t stop man this is incredible.
@Beanhead_223
@Beanhead_223 10 месяцев назад
19:49 man playing smash bros music in the background lmao good shit
@DD-sr9xm
@DD-sr9xm 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, the dip in form for the Nuggets in the last 15 or so games of last season was two things; Jokic coasting to rest his body and Jokic tanking his mvp chances. The narrative had become so caustic (thanks Perk) that he knew if he won, it would get WORSE. All he wanted to do was win a championship for himself, his teammates, his coaches, team owners and fans. The mvp became a distraction and a potential threat to their focus in the playoffs. He intentionally tanked his mvp chances. He doesn’t care about individual accolades and he is good friends with Embiid anyway so let his friend get one while he gets the OTHER MVP award, which he did.
@TrAsH__6
@TrAsH__6 10 месяцев назад
The only reason he got MVP award is because of Perkin's race talk... the tables have turned a long time ago.
@zappa3837
@zappa3837 10 месяцев назад
These mini-docs are so meticulous and well done.
@seraj8811
@seraj8811 10 месяцев назад
Glad more people also noticed Jokic visibly tuned out by the mvp race ( and basketball as a whole imo) when the conversation took that ugly turn in march. Seemed obvious that Embiid was winning it. Also is Embiid winning another mvp amd then a ring like two centers prior?
@dilach41
@dilach41 9 месяцев назад
Jokic just chilled the last month of the regular season because they had the number 1 seed and he doesnt give a fuck about MVP.
@zaidkidwai7831
@zaidkidwai7831 10 месяцев назад
Love your videos man, some of the best high quality content on the platform.
@tristanharris8440
@tristanharris8440 10 месяцев назад
It doesn't matter anymore. Jokic got that ring and finals MVP. Embiid can milk his MVP babe until he at least makes it past the second round.
@ranchosdelnorte
@ranchosdelnorte 10 месяцев назад
It does matter because we got screwed out of witnessing history. We could have watched a player get his 3rd straight for first time in 30years then top that off with a historic playoff run and Finals MVP. But too many people were more concerned about who did or didn't win 3 straight in the past instead of rewarding the person that truly had the best regular season.
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