Tutorials like this makes you want to go back to old arrangements and fix the obvious issues we all made when we started without compromising the sound of it, which we liked when we started. And it works I just tested this so thanks!
I had NO IDEA Reason bounces each clip separately, i.e. without previous clip's FX bleeding into it and that it renders the whole tail! Wow. I'm aware only of Studio One doing this. AWESOME!!!
@@anthonyrusso3799 Hey Anthony! Sidechainig the signal is a good technique for clarity yes but it doesn't address the issue we are adressing in this video.
Very cool. At first, thought you were cutting the sound with the reverb. Then realized you were only cutting the 100% wet mix. Very nice result. Feel like I should add this to a final mixing checklist. 🤙🔥
Yes that helps to duck the reverb when the dry signal hits, but it wont stop reverb tails from notes in chord A from running when Chord B starts. You can use the sidechain trick together with this technique fore even further clarity.
Wow, this makes so much sense. I feel like re-doing everything I’ve done with synths and reverbs. Thanks for sharing this gem with us. The future solution would be for Reverb plug-in developers to implement a “reset” option on reverbs to automatically do this or for DAWs to directly implement this bounce-in-place per region/clip functionality. Either way I hope all these developers are watching and see the problem you’ve described. As time consuming as this solution is (for other DAWs), it seems to be the best way to control reverb tails.
This was a really cool tip, thanks for sharing it! I suppose a somewhat elaborate way to still retain the ability to tweak the sound afterwards without having to redo this chop work would be to instead automate switching between two reverb rack units (automate bypass/on) and resetting the decay to 0 while the other reverb is active.
I bounce all my midi in place just to commit and knew that the audio does continue if you drag the clips out, but I never thought to use it in this way. Cool tip, thank you
Can't you just use the rv reverb and put the gate on? Also what about adding a eq before the reverb will that clean if up? Thank you for the tutorials I'm glad reason is back giving tips 😊
When I watch a hundred videos on music production and / or the use of audio tools to do so, I always see a lot of producers from all around the world using the same plugins. Like Valhalla. Or FabFilter. What they do, is the opposite of what they actually intent to do with their videos, and that is that I conclude that I DON'T want those plugins. Because then everything I do will also start to sound like what everybody else is doing. And that is the last thing that I want as a composer / producer. So I thank you all, for sounding the same and showing me time after time over and over again WHY you all do sound the same. Keep it on!
A ducking reverb/echo will create some clarity yes but what we are doing here is preventing notes from chord A to keep ringing in the reverb when chord B hits. So it's a tonal thing rather than a audio level thing.
Stretch the clips by a tiny bit after the bounce, and set it to crossfade sounds also very nice (les chopped) You can put a sidechain triggered by the dry signal on the bounced reverb as well for controlling the attack. Really interesting technique, sounds really different from just put a reverb with sidechain on it.
This seems overly laborious. But thank you for pointing out the problem and tackling it your way. I'll try have and look for an automated solution. If I find one, I'll post it here. Or does anybody already have one? (The easier solution is to use Reason's reverb and automating decay, the harder solution is triggering the reverb reset with every note without requiring specific brand of reverb.)
I came up with this technique after trying to automate the reverb decay parameter. Automating the decay won’t work cause you don’t get the clean retrigger of the notes. You’d have to automate the bypass knob on the reverb too which causes some sonic artefacts which also causes you to have to automate the signal level. So taking that route is not easier than this. What would have helped is a equivalent of audio clips ”split at slices” for midi clips.
@@carlcarlsson7078 One quick solution is using Valhalla Supermassive that has an automatable CLEAR button that purges the reverb without any clicks. I'll keep looking if there is a trick that would work for all reverbs. Also, Reason's RV Decay parameter dip to zero and back resets the tail without problem. I'll work on it some more before posting, so that we don't spam this thread.
Awesome info....So simple but i just never think of it..DAMN !! haha... If anyone reads this id love to see some tips on setting up a template for best sound results producing various styles of music... I get so lost with all the info, be good to see in depth, or even a EDM template song file with major things all routed etc in the REASON+ section..."or have i missed something somewhere?"
Hey mate! I read everything here. If we record more stuff for this channel I could absolutely do a tip on how to set up a general template, I have been researching that myself a lot. It's not gonna be genre specific though. I do get what you are saying about the massive amount of info available. Check out Mix With The Masters. Their stuff is high quality. Also check Sound On Sound magazine if they have some articles with artists/producers/mix engineers you like.
@@carlcarlsson7078 that would be brilliant bud...I feel im ok with reason but it seems the younger end are far more upto point with it... Ive used Reason since version1 !!! and Re Birth before that, and now at 53 years of age and being on and off music creation for that time i just feel a bit of help setting up to get the best from the sounds, as this really confuses me and i often get lost in just trying to set up a good rig and then tme goes by wasted on not creating... Ill look forward to your vids my friend...Mike UK (Manchester)
Yo mate I answered this already in a previous comment so go check that out but basically sidechaining the reverb to the dry signal is good for clarity but it doesn’t adress the specific issue we are adressing here.
@@carlcarlsson7078 You know what would be meaningful? The ability to actually focus on any knob and bind a cc midi controller knob to twist that value. That would cut the mouse time in half and make for a much more tactile experience throughout the entire Reason environment. Thanks in advance!
Pretty basic for this days, actually daw are more complex and versatile to get more more ways to open the world of possibility... But I still love reason I don't know why, it's the first love?
Why is there no "on the note" hit in bounced lane ? Is this just the reverbed sound bounced ? You bounced the full chopped lane, but the bounced lane looks offbeat.... I have to try on my own but iam too lazy for now....
Reasonstudios, if you are reading this, please please give an update about any development or lack thereof for Linux compaitibility. With the upcoming Windows 10 Security update Bonking in 2025, a lot of us wont be able to update to Windows 11 due to device compatibility. I love the Reason workflow...please develop something for Linux...😭😭😭
Making a misstake and it turns out to work, is what you think is creative. Lol. If I would have wanted that sound, I would have played it, I do not need misstake to make the sound exactly as what Iike. You do not know what you want, so a misstake is good for you, I do not need misstakes.
You will never be able to implement that i a track in a good way, because of how bad the end results were. That is why you are not famous. You can only show how to make on bad sound, sound less bad, but never good enough to be useable in a professional way. This is for amatours not knowing how much of an amatour you are.
