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Timestamps:
0:00 Yuckin' Ball
3:55 Angel Hernandez: The Biggest Star in the Game
24:25 Skip Schumakr Ejection
34:40 Blocking the Bases & Kyle Freeland's Injury
50:55 Oli Marmol UPDATE
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@mattheagerty4864
@mattheagerty4864 Месяц назад
Would have been hilarious if the episode was 2 seconds long and they just said “No.”
@GavinNikel11
@GavinNikel11 Месяц назад
😂😂😂😂
@ndsufan6439
@ndsufan6439 Месяц назад
My thoughts exactly
@FTLnovaKid
@FTLnovaKid Месяц назад
Should have kept the same run length but right after they both say “NO” the rest is just black screen.
@CaptCKernel
@CaptCKernel Месяц назад
That would be an amazing short - posing the question and then just a compilation of them saying no
@RetardsOfPaloAlto
@RetardsOfPaloAlto Месяц назад
@@FTLnovaKid Or just the intro/music on loop
@radamrussell
@radamrussell Месяц назад
The game needs umpires, but there has to be accountability, and those that think they're above the game don't belong in the show. MLB has got to keep personalities in check when it comes to umpires. These guys have to be the most level-headed, unbiased people on the diamond....even when players get in your grill about balls and strikes like Plouffe.
@jeff4son
@jeff4son Месяц назад
The new Robo umpire system should be called A.N.G.E.L. A - Autonomous N - Neutral G - Game E - Enhancement L - Logic Or A - Accurate N - Networked G - Geometric E - Evaluation L - Lens
@votekyle3000
@votekyle3000 Месяц назад
Accurate Nasty Guy Enhancing Lens
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich Месяц назад
I love this. It's like the GUNDAM acronyms that Sunrise came up with.
@great_expectations202
@great_expectations202 Месяц назад
the umpiring's been rough this year. it's such a bad look when mlb's in bed with the gambling companies and the umpiring looks like this.
@shaindaman13
@shaindaman13 Месяц назад
Uh oh! We gotta hot take over here! Shots fired. Lol
@aljon5947
@aljon5947 29 дней назад
yup, what if an umpire was intentionally missing calls because theyre betting on strikeouts or whatever.
@andrewboyce7268
@andrewboyce7268 29 дней назад
​@@aljon5947they aren't. Most bad ball/strike calls are due to where umpires keep their heads. Funny part, only older umpires are the most egregious ones. It's really a training issue. Angel closes his eyes and guesses, he's in a world of his own on how bad of an ump he is.
@happysqWid
@happysqWid 29 дней назад
I agree, but everyone seems to be upset about the wrong side of that equation. The problem isn't the umpires, it's the sports gambling, which should have never in a million years been allowed back in baseball, of all the sports that know what damage it can do to the game. It's a disgrace.
@bnbantics
@bnbantics Месяц назад
I don’t think anyone is suggesting getting rid of all umpires, just the one who is horrible at his job.
@levisnyder6585
@levisnyder6585 29 дней назад
Collective bargaining means that those two things are legally the same. Unions argue that from a legal perspective, performance is subjective. Frankly, Angel is a damn good ump in the field. He just can’t call balls & strikes.
@michaeljolly7936
@michaeljolly7936 Месяц назад
Just because controversy gets clicks doesn’t mean it’s a good thing
@connordimaggio5908
@connordimaggio5908 Месяц назад
I agree. Sometimes people are rallying behind a topic because it's infuriating / frustrating and people hope that with collective voice they can affect change
@DrewB2400
@DrewB2400 Месяц назад
If the technology is there to have every strike/ball called perfectly, there is ZERO reason to have any "human element"
@xShawamba
@xShawamba Месяц назад
Saying its good for the game is a wild take. Imagine thinking having bad officiating is a good thing.
@matthewtucker1262
@matthewtucker1262 Месяц назад
Good for the game is an interesting phrase, which usually means it gets casuals or social media more into it. Increased interdivisional play is another example where people throw that phrase around
@andrewboyce7268
@andrewboyce7268 29 дней назад
Baseball goes up against the NFL, NBA & Hockey.. Its getting people to talk about MLB which 5 year ago wasn't happening.
@jahterminatedlmao5473
@jahterminatedlmao5473 29 дней назад
not good for the game but good for TV and keeping conversation
@bigseanlive1025
@bigseanlive1025 29 дней назад
good for sports bettors.. that's about it. Angel has been SOOO bad I wouldn't be surprised if he was on the take at this point.
@CCtheRapperman
@CCtheRapperman 29 дней назад
​@@matthewtucker1262 but it's not true here? Like does Trev actually think anybody who doesn't watch baseball sees a video where umps are blowing it and decides to tune in for the next game? Or do they go "oh yeah, this is why I don't watch baseball)"
@23CJ94
@23CJ94 Месяц назад
The thing that kills me is that they don't get demoted for being bad at their job. It's like in normal life, people get promoted, demoted, fired and hired based on how good or bad of a job they do. Demote the bad umps to the minors until they prove themselves again. And then promote the good ones in the minors.
@CCtheRapperman
@CCtheRapperman 29 дней назад
It feels very naive to think failing upwards is exclusively an umpire problem lol
@john-ct7ox
@john-ct7ox Месяц назад
extremely extremely rare Trev L take
@CCtheRapperman
@CCtheRapperman 29 дней назад
Does he actually think there's anyone on earth who's not a baseball fan that sees a bad umpire and goes "oh yeah, I want to see more!"? Like those get more clicks because people that hate baseball watch it to laugh at, nobody is going to a baseball game to see bad umps
@InteristaS5
@InteristaS5 Месяц назад
No, no he’s not.
@dgrblue4162
@dgrblue4162 Месяц назад
The athletic has an article last year about Angel, said that the umpire association has a grading system, and that umpires graded under 92% would be disciplined or terminated. However, no umpire has ever graded below 96% in their grading. I believe that the MLB is afraid of him and his lawsuits, even if it seems silly
@brad1356
@brad1356 Месяц назад
Lawsuits?
@apacheman3131
@apacheman3131 Месяц назад
I remember that article, but I also remember it saying that they give an extra ball all the way outside the zone. They have to call a ball almost 4 inches off the plate a strike to get a negative mark from the actual Union. Also, MLB has won both of the lawsuits Angel filed against them. They aren't scared of him, the Ump Union just won't let them get rid of him.
@WarrenFranceSportsNetwork
@WarrenFranceSportsNetwork Месяц назад
@@brad1356he sued mlb bc they wouldn’t allow him to call playoff games
@kuhlitz
@kuhlitz Месяц назад
I would have thought this channel had a video with a million views already definitely coming soon im happy y’all love the game.
@CadChamberlain
@CadChamberlain Месяц назад
Trev was NOT teammates with Tyler Rogers
@jonanderson6634
@jonanderson6634 Месяц назад
Angel Hernandez is the only umpire who consistently trends on Twitter/X
@mikey.1743
@mikey.1743 Месяц назад
Love your vids guys, but that's the dumbest question ever in your thumbnail. The sooner Angel Hernandez is out of the MLB, the better.
@zaneplatt3533
@zaneplatt3533 Месяц назад
Trev putting over Angel is why I love the guy 😂. It riles fans up so much
@cityboychad
@cityboychad Месяц назад
Why does Trevor look like he spent three days out at Joshua Tree doing Psilocybin mushrooms?
@genecarlsonii3115
@genecarlsonii3115 Месяц назад
I was at the Arkansas vs. TX Tech college baseball game last night......and Angel Hernandez was the subject.....complete strangers talking about it and noticed it.
@WarrenFranceSportsNetwork
@WarrenFranceSportsNetwork Месяц назад
My brothers lacrosse players don’t watch ANY baseball and they know who angel Hernandez is. It’s actually insane how bad he is
@skaz777
@skaz777 28 дней назад
Let’s face it - MLB LOVES this guy. If they didn’t there’s NO WAY he’d be in there. They understand creating content through controversy, and Angel feeds their MO.
@Inquisitor6321
@Inquisitor6321 24 дня назад
"Bad calls" don't balance out. There are certain teams like the Yankees and the Dodgers who get favored in these bad calls/borderline calls more that other teams. This also applies to certain players. Some players get favored consistently on borderline calls.
@HonkyTonkHellraiser
@HonkyTonkHellraiser 29 дней назад
Angel Hernandez is so bad he missed the eclipse and called it a strike
@wingmon
@wingmon Месяц назад
I just want to talk about the game, the teams and players skills or lack their of. Not the umpires. They should feed the talent, not control it.
@voidsabre_
@voidsabre_ 28 дней назад
Okay but imagine how electric it'll be next season when a team runs out of challenges in the 8th with Angel behind the plate
@Scoobydrew22
@Scoobydrew22 29 дней назад
"I'm getting blasted in the face" - Trevor Plouffe😂😂
@Cruncherss
@Cruncherss Месяц назад
Trea Turner made oven mitts real swaggy
@tylerdurden2520
@tylerdurden2520 24 дня назад
When other umpires are asked about him they think he is a great guy and a good ump. That is the problem.
@tayloroleary8880
@tayloroleary8880 29 дней назад
25:49 as a Taylor, the confusion of Left-Handed Taylor and Right-Handed Tyler offended me personally. Years, decades even, of being called Tyler came rushing back to me like a wave of a personal attack. Lol
@CynthiaOfficialSingh
@CynthiaOfficialSingh 29 дней назад
Maybe Angel Hernandez needs some kushydreams to make better calls on the field! 😂
@963perkypat
@963perkypat 29 дней назад
I agree with Trev that ump arguments are some of the more entertaining aspects in baseball
@Jdmusic101
@Jdmusic101 29 дней назад
Totally agree it's entertaining to watch on TV/at the stadium, but I hate watching it trickle down to college, high school, and Little League
@CCtheRapperman
@CCtheRapperman 29 дней назад
​@@Jdmusic101 my hometown can't even find people to umpire anymore because they're tired of getting screamed at by parents over t ball
@Jdmusic101
@Jdmusic101 29 дней назад
@@CCtheRapperman Yeah, I work as a race director for kart racing (basically umpire of the race), so I get lit up all the time. I can admire the entertainment for the pro level, but beyond that, they’re making it hard for me to get good people
@SupraFootwear2013
@SupraFootwear2013 26 дней назад
Trev doesn’t need to be on the show anymore. Let’s bring in someone who knows how to win and has guts like Gardner
@ramprat5812
@ramprat5812 Месяц назад
I think so many people pay attention to it is because it’s one of the only universal fan experiences in baseball if you’re a fan of literally ANY team you’ve watched a game in the first inning where you see a call and a think wtf was that? Oh shit, it’s Angel here we go…
@vidwatcher00
@vidwatcher00 Месяц назад
saw something saying with recent contract,they can put threw new rules in 60day(eison-passan talking about angel), so we 90d from allstar game,some decisions could be made i dont know how much tech,how many cameras,if ball needs a chip, is involved in the system,if its possible to refit all 30 parks in a week over the break or not
@ChanalogUnderground
@ChanalogUnderground Месяц назад
Ken Kaiser Planet of the umps and Ron Luciano's Umpire strikes back are great reads.
@drewlawrence5289
@drewlawrence5289 Месяц назад
Idea for a limited rollout of the strike challenge: give them one. One per game, per team. If you win you keep it to use later if needed. The intention being that it be used when it is an egregious call. That let's you try it out with minimal potential impact to the outcome of the game.
@jackstory233
@jackstory233 29 дней назад
Oli might be good for culture and communication, but is he a good leader for the team? 2023 was awful, and I'm inclined to believe the cards were only really good in 2022 because the cards still had Yadi. I think its fair to say that cardinals had a huge void to fill when he left, and I'm not sure Oli and the other coaches were ready to fill that.
@MikeWoodard
@MikeWoodard Месяц назад
Can we not get Angel on Talkin Baseball and get an interview with this guy? I mean is Talkin Baseball at that pinnacle yet where we can bring umpires on? Or is it against the Umpire Association?
@Zo3yX
@Zo3yX 29 дней назад
Interviews don't do numbers AT all. Jimmy mentions that everytime someone mentions it on his "more jomboy" channel. Ppl just don't click on Interviews
@Fishingtonn
@Fishingtonn Месяц назад
Had to go online and grab my Jomboy Media Essentials shirt after seeing it on trev. Great ep bros
@testedjon418
@testedjon418 25 дней назад
Insane take. Getting the challenge system with angel will slow the game immensely. I could easily see 5-6 challenges every inning and all being overturned. I'm all for the challenge system, but angel is so bad he will nullify the efforts of mlb to speed up the game
@hughe2mj
@hughe2mj Месяц назад
Shoutout LV Iron Pigs
@happysqWid
@happysqWid 29 дней назад
I personally enjoy the flavor bad calls add to the game.
@sohohank832
@sohohank832 28 дней назад
Trev is either trolling to bait rage engagement on shorts, or has completely lost touch with fans
@thewisemanpaul
@thewisemanpaul 29 дней назад
Trev casually getting the name of his former teammate wrong while literally saying "my former teammate" lol. Taylor is the former twin not Tyler
@michaellindner9737
@michaellindner9737 Месяц назад
Can’t wait till the new format comes over for talkin baseball. No more chunky borders
@dardell2001
@dardell2001 Месяц назад
I'm starting to think that Angel is doing it in part because he's really bad and largely out of spite. The 7" off the plate strike was just spite imo
@pinverarity
@pinverarity Месяц назад
Yeah, at this point it’s like he’s playing a heel in wrestling and pimping the evil.
@magentarainbow2275
@magentarainbow2275 Месяц назад
Bobby Cox holds the record for most times thrown out. Go Braves!
@apacheman3131
@apacheman3131 Месяц назад
A full 162!
@asdfaeou
@asdfaeou Месяц назад
I love you to pieces Trev, but I'm fairly certain you would let any active player sway your opinion instantly. You're a player's player, and I don't mean that as a bad thing.
@derwinkle
@derwinkle 29 дней назад
They don't need time to adjust to the zone because it's a challenge rule. What gave you the idea that they're moving the entire strike zone to a different place? I work for the broadcast staff that created this system and I'm curious as to what gave people the idea that we are moving the entire strike zone and where they think we are going to put it. Maybe behind the batters back? Did you think we were going to make batters start to swing backward? I'm very confused by that part of the discussion. Otherwise, I loved this video
@CCtheRapperman
@CCtheRapperman 29 дней назад
They are saying that players know what an umps existing strike zone is, and it's very rarely exactly accurate to what the legitimate strike zone is as per the rules. If you know that umpire A always calls high pitches a strike, you keep that in mind as a hitter. If they no longer use umpire A's strike zone and instead go for the "real" zone, players need to adjust to that. The fact that was so confusing for someone claiming to be responsible for the new tech makes me pretty nervous to be honest lol
@dcsoda1
@dcsoda1 Месяц назад
No. Someone who puts themselves in the outcome of a game is bad. Personalities in sports are good, incompetence is not.
@joshuameyer1382
@joshuameyer1382 29 дней назад
"Show me your gooch" to end the show. Thanks, Jake
@bwhales9716
@bwhales9716 Месяц назад
good take 28:25
@VegeMaticPragtarian
@VegeMaticPragtarian 29 дней назад
It’s important to note that we shouldn’t just be pushing for Angel to be fired or retrained to be a good umpire, but ALL bad umpires to be held accountable. Angel is just the poster child, but CB and plenty others are just as bad.
@N0isybag
@N0isybag Месяц назад
The fact that I only know 2 MLB umpires by name (Angel Hernandez & Joe West) is not good news for them. A great umpire is a lot like a great cornerback. Never hearing their name called during a game is what you want!
@Howesitgoing1
@Howesitgoing1 Месяц назад
That’s not a great analogy as hearing a cornerback getting a pick 6 like Daron Bland is better than not hearing their name but it is true that if you don’t hear their name they are doing their job correctly but not exceptionally
@flyjarrett
@flyjarrett Месяц назад
It’s like a news reporter not being a part of the story. Umpires should not be mentioned by name in the game.
@urie714
@urie714 29 дней назад
Can you imagine a player in his first at bat and Angel Hernandez rings him up and ruins his day and eventually his career????
@petaka89
@petaka89 Месяц назад
The tune at the begining is sick, is there a name for it?
@Jasontyo
@Jasontyo Месяц назад
Waiting for my Skip Schumacher breakdown
@BUY_YT_Views_611
@BUY_YT_Views_611 Месяц назад
Love your channel . It has become a part of my daily routine
@TheTEN24
@TheTEN24 27 дней назад
I do like the human element of the game however that AAA challenge system would be great. I kinda like that scenario ideally.
@hippfyre4704
@hippfyre4704 29 дней назад
Discretionary calls left up to the umpire leads to score manipulation.
@jessl1014
@jessl1014 Месяц назад
Angel hernandez on the next show cover
@braden_clancy11
@braden_clancy11 Месяц назад
jake is 1000% right about the freeland play, they could have absolutely gotten freeland out without causing a collision. average pitcher behavior.
@LegoBrick5985
@LegoBrick5985 Месяц назад
All of my Philly friends add a y- in front of many words, so it could be a Philly thing. Yuckin BALL BB!!
@Dead_Medic
@Dead_Medic Месяц назад
Consistent poor performance is not good for the game
@dgrblue4162
@dgrblue4162 Месяц назад
I guess that people forget about Eric Gregg. Go back and check out the 1997 NLCS. He was calling strikes on balls a foot off the plate.
@CCtheRapperman
@CCtheRapperman 29 дней назад
Ah yes, they should definitely spend time talking about a game that happened almost 3 decades ago
@ninjasuperman9538
@ninjasuperman9538 Месяц назад
Ok this just hit me and IDK if it is a thing or why it wouldn’t work but why doesn’t HitTrax or StatCast just have a meeting with the individual umps to adjust the zone to their calls. Like have them sit and call balls and strikes on the edge of the plate for an hour or so and learn their tendencies. From what I understand MLB wants a uniform strike zone but we all know that is not the case at least for now. I think it would help the broadcast when a ump consistently gives the pitcher a ball outside or something like that.
@glucosaminecondroitan9135
@glucosaminecondroitan9135 Месяц назад
Like, Driveline but for umps.
@ninjasuperman9538
@ninjasuperman9538 Месяц назад
@@glucosaminecondroitan9135 yes that is the type of thing I was thinking. Maybe just do it for the seasons you are introducing the challenge system to help the older Umps transition to a uniform zone
@mikeroberts3695
@mikeroberts3695 Месяц назад
"Kyle Gibson is Trev's Amber Sabathia" is CRAAAZY 🤣🤣 love Talkin Jake!!!!
@rynedolleslager5704
@rynedolleslager5704 Месяц назад
Where the heck has Jom been?
@Arizona_Dude
@Arizona_Dude Месяц назад
For real missing him a lil
@bluemeltedpopsicle
@bluemeltedpopsicle Месяц назад
All plays should be challengable, for one.
@MaylaJ.
@MaylaJ. Месяц назад
BBD’s laugh 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@professionalshields
@professionalshields 29 дней назад
How much time we got 🤣
@brianchappell4054
@brianchappell4054 Месяц назад
Trevor P. - unsolicited advice here, when it comes to Angel H. just frickin' stop it. He is bad at his job? Do you deny that? If your defense is everybody hates him so I'm going to defend him because... dude, I hope the knee pads you are using are the best ones you can find on-line. Quality knee pads T.P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Setashi
@Setashi Месяц назад
"Show me your gooch" - Jake Storiale
@Moviesrule2011
@Moviesrule2011 Месяц назад
Is a knee to the groin actually GOOD for your balls?
@user-xo2xo8zc5l
@user-xo2xo8zc5l Месяц назад
"How to fix Angel Hernandez problem?" Step 1: Fire Him. Step 2: Tell the courts he's a terrible ref AGAIN. Step 3: Done
@TheMogulman31
@TheMogulman31 Месяц назад
Step 2a: the court explains MLB violated the CBA with the MLB umpire union, are forced to reinstate Angel with back pay and punitive damages.
@bigballer999
@bigballer999 Месяц назад
Angel having 3 calls overturned in a row at first base is an all timer
@GenericUsername23
@GenericUsername23 Месяц назад
Leave it to Trev to find a way to spin the Angel story into a good thing
@evanvandeneinde7095
@evanvandeneinde7095 25 дней назад
Nah, the umpiring right now is bad for the game.
@sm126878
@sm126878 Месяц назад
NO
@ShelleyPolarbelle
@ShelleyPolarbelle 29 дней назад
The thing about Angel is that he is ruining games. It’s not a bandwagon thing. It’s just that he’s horrible and he’s screwing up the game. He calls so Many bad ones that it has an effect on our team’s win/loss records. At this point, I suspect he’s doing it on purpose. Or he Has a big ass cataract that he can’t see thru. He should never ever be behind the plate. And especially in playoffs or series. SOMEONE do an analysis on how many games he twisted sideways with crappy calls. We’ll call it the Angel Effect. It’s getting to be too much and if I were an AI, I could tell you how many game outcomes changed because Of The Angel Effect
@ft8423
@ft8423 Месяц назад
Iron pigs mentioned 🫡
@peterharris6409
@peterharris6409 29 дней назад
It’s bad entertainment. It’s like giving the brat negative attention and furthering the problem when they do so. It is NOT good for the game. Getting every call correctly and correctly rewarding the appropriate player for their success is what baseball needs. If u have a crazy good take on a 3-2 count and bring the tying run to the plate with you walking, but the ump decides it’s strike 3 you’re out, the batter gets punished the team gets punished because he did his job. We need to just get every call correctly, we have the ability to do it
@jesusdominguez9313
@jesusdominguez9313 Месяц назад
Justin Verlander is a fan of the strikes and balls challenges. I don't think veteran pitchers will be a problem.
@Laremy
@Laremy Месяц назад
31:40 glad the pencil got some use this episode
@SupraFootwear2013
@SupraFootwear2013 26 дней назад
Trevor is thinking the same way the umpires do instead of the fans. Who is more important between the two? Trevor needs to go.
@douglasennis7291
@douglasennis7291 Месяц назад
Angel is a meme now 🤷🏻‍♂️
@sdguy67
@sdguy67 Месяц назад
People even knowing the umpires name, is not good for baseball
@braden_clancy11
@braden_clancy11 Месяц назад
the pitcher covering home is all in the wrong, he is late to cover home and blocks the plate and the runner gets penalized and injured for that like what a pitcher move 😭
@voidsabre_
@voidsabre_ 28 дней назад
Joe West and Angel Hernandez were the Magic & Bird of incompetent officiating (except Joe was actually a decent umpire at everything except balls and strikes, while Angel is a liability at every position)
@GallopingGhost-ms6ts
@GallopingGhost-ms6ts Месяц назад
Only right answer is HELL NO
@lacheesehead1812
@lacheesehead1812 Месяц назад
So is Jomboy not part of this episodes any longer?
@Zo3yX
@Zo3yX 29 дней назад
He is working on other projects and joins I think once a week.
@MrMrfreetvg
@MrMrfreetvg Месяц назад
How does Angel Hernandez go home and look at his wife and kids in the eyes knowing they know he is terrible at his job 😂😂😂
@doctorhayo7976
@doctorhayo7976 29 дней назад
same way jake does
@matthewtucker1262
@matthewtucker1262 Месяц назад
I can’t believe there’s people out there that are against the challenge system. I do think complete robo umps is a bad idea tho
@ajtuckvr
@ajtuckvr Месяц назад
The man ruined a perfect game shoulda been the end.
@Vegazny1
@Vegazny1 25 дней назад
Along with bad umpiring, the catcher 'framing' is another joke. Are there more catching interference calls now?
@ayydubs987
@ayydubs987 29 дней назад
sorry, marmol grabbing the security guard by the jacket collar was necessary bc he was trying to…what? prevent him from falling down the stairs? who grabs someone’s collar and throws them off to the side to prevent them from “falling down the stairs”?! i don’t buy it.
@jlo7770
@jlo7770 29 дней назад
Wtf is with left dudes et fingers? Im trying to sleep and its like light sabers waving around
@Zo3yX
@Zo3yX 29 дней назад
What?? Lol
@j----y
@j----y Месяц назад
Taylor is the lefty. Tyler is the righty. You played with Taylor. 🤭
@meganbrown8990
@meganbrown8990 Месяц назад
no one wants the umpires to be stars
@fdannybrown
@fdannybrown Месяц назад
Bad umpiring is not good for baseball LOL. Stop trolling us.
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