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HOW TO GET 15% MORE POWER FROM A PREDATOR 212CC ENGINE 

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HOW TO GET 15% MORE POWER FROM A PREDATOR 212CC ENGINE. Want to get a little bit MORE out of your Predator 212cc Engine? An EASY ENGINE TUNE can lead to some BIG PERFORMANCE GAINS. Watch as I go over STEP BY STEP how to TUNE the new engine and make this Ariens Sno-Thro send snow farther than before. This is the next step in my plan to RE-POWER this old Ariens into a SNOW THROWING TANK. This looks to be one of my funnest projects yet! LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!
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@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Here is a link to the HOUR METER I use on my Predator Engine! amzn.to/3sHfJIX Thanks for watching!
@shadowghst7704
@shadowghst7704 2 года назад
Thanks dude! Love the info!
@kylesyx8432
@kylesyx8432 Год назад
That’s a great way to keep up w wear ! Service more often the more power you add! ✌️💕
@kylesyx8432
@kylesyx8432 Год назад
Just remember before you spend a lot of on these engines … they are rated at 3600 rpm W/o a cast iron sleeve you can wear the block out fast as I’ve learned the hard way. Billet rod ,flat piston , arc aluminum flywheel Vm 22 carb 22lb springs, port polish head ( non hemi) chromoly push rod, ratio rockers 1:3 , header pipe …. after all these improvements Awesome Power Wore my block out ! If you just want a little more power Np the stage 1 build is ok and engine will last a good while.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear Год назад
Thanks for sharing Kyle!
@Vince.sharp.guy007
@Vince.sharp.guy007 3 месяца назад
How long and was it in a cart?
@edwintaber6465
@edwintaber6465 2 года назад
If you up the power output you should keep track of the head bolt torque. Take a reading before you start and record it along with the engine temperature. Regularly check the torque at the same temperature. Over time there can be normal stretching of the bolts which shows up as lowered torque. If the reduced bolt torque shows up very soon then you likely are exceeding the design parameters of the engine.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
You sure know your stuff Edwin! Thanks for sharing!
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 года назад
These engines are ran at much higher than 4100 RPM under much greater loads than a snowblower. The head bolt torque is never a concern. On a stock engine like this, head bolt torque is the least of your concerns.
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 Год назад
@@Deucealive75 Agreed the head bolt torque is often the same on stock as it is in the racing community where you are talking about hitting rpms of min. of 5800 sometimes up to 7500, even 9000. So no head bolt torque is not something to be concerned about, plus all that is being adjusted here is idle rpm, so I'd suggest just leave it alone unless you are snowblowing 2" snows often and seeing issues throwing it far enough. Yet those issues should be rectified with a impeller kit first and surprising as this is the longer chute which, I figured before that video was not going to give much benefit as it did.
@kylesyx8432
@kylesyx8432 Год назад
So true, as I have learned the hard way lol ✌️
@timsprague542
@timsprague542 7 месяцев назад
I put the 212 predator on my Murray 24”, last year worked great wasn’t as cold,this year not so good the Venturi in the carb kept freezing up, so I had to do some mods to get warm air to the carb,then the fuel tank wouldn’t vent real well so the engine kept running out of fuel an had to restart it working on solving that issue…
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 7 месяцев назад
Keep me posted on this! 👍
@MarkJacksonGaming
@MarkJacksonGaming 6 месяцев назад
-- Ha! My parents just drove by. My mom bought me my snowblower. It's alright, I bought her an SUV in return : )
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing
@yalerich7417
@yalerich7417 Год назад
Those older Ariens with Predator re-power are the best snowblowers EVER (in my opinion)!
@GarageGear
@GarageGear Год назад
Many people messaged me about keeping and fixing the tecumseh engine to keep it more original but I have absolutely no luck with those engines. They drive me nuts.
@coreygreening1329
@coreygreening1329 Год назад
I put a 420 on my late 70’s 32” snothro much better performance and doubled the height of my shoot and it works great I only use 1 or 2 gears as 3 and 4 makes me almost have to run to keep up with it
@GarageGear
@GarageGear Год назад
Same here bud hahah! Gonna need some running shoes lol! Cool that you got that big engine on it!
@rogerwhiting9310
@rogerwhiting9310 2 года назад
The Honda nlowers have some real gurus that uptune their engines. Using an exhaust gas analyzer showed that a larger orifice was beneficial...and is. It likes to carbonize the plug now but thats easy to remedy.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
They do some really wild but cool stuff! Thanks for sharing Roger!
@alfries9736
@alfries9736 2 года назад
Have you greased the front augers bearings? Or checked the grease in the gearbox? If you need it, why not use a synthetic low temp grease? Possibly with teflon in it. Might take away some restriction therefore adding power. or extra torque.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Auger bearings yes! Gear box no. Going to be doing a video on that soon most likely. Thanks for the tips and stay tuned Al!
@smallblock412
@smallblock412 2 года назад
Arnold approved lol. I also have heard about many people cranking the RPMs up on these engines with great results.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Arnold cranked up the RPM on his Choppa! Lol! I am very happy with this mod! Put a better chute on this too recently and it really sent it! Thanks for being a cool fan small block!
@georgezeck1396
@georgezeck1396 2 года назад
Wouldn’t you have been better changing to a smaller pulley on the auger side to get more overall RPM’s on the actual auger assy? I did this on an old Craftsman and it’s a beast. Not toying with the engine (yes, I did increase the jet size).
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Hey George! There are a variety of ways to go about this! That’s a great idea but I was trying to show the easiest way to go about boosting the RPMs. Few twists of the screw driver and your hood to go! Thanks for watching!
@kylesyx8432
@kylesyx8432 Год назад
Thanks for the comment, I just subscribed !
@GarageGear
@GarageGear Год назад
Thanks for subscribing Kyle!
@nickc8760
@nickc8760 8 месяцев назад
I have a Ariens 824 El. I want to do this. But my shoot control has a bracket that bolts on to the Tecumseh engine. Is there. a way around that. ?
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 8 месяцев назад
If you chute is somehow in the way you could take the chute off, make your adjustment and then reinstall your chute.
@jaredk777
@jaredk777 2 года назад
Sick blower man. Random idea for cosmetics that I have done, is take the chains off and paint them with AC orange from tractor supply or Ariens orange from a dealer. Makes it pop!
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Hey Jared! Great idea! I was thinking of painting the wheels this summer! Was leaning toward black but you got me thinking about orange now! It’s gonna look awesome! Probably thinking some newer tires like x tracs too! ROCK ON my friend! 👍
@edwintaber6465
@edwintaber6465 2 года назад
The question you need to ask is what cylinder pressures was the engine designed to maintain. I am very skeptical of the engineering in reverse engineered engines. Pull a head bolt from a real Honda and test it against a head bolt of a clone.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
That’s a great question. I would also like to know the details. Thanks for sharing!
@paulmysliborski4832
@paulmysliborski4832 2 года назад
Next project is the nitrous hook up and bottle mount. 🤣 Nice vid, JB!!
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Hahah can you imagine how far the snow would fly after that mod? I’ll need some instructions though! If you got anything let me know! Chrome wheels too?
@shadowghst7704
@shadowghst7704 2 года назад
Do you have a video on adding the hour-meter/tachometer? This series on the Predator 212 has been crazy fun to watch. Thanks JB..
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Hey Sam, I linked an hour meter install video in the description! Glad you’re enjoying the series! Thanks for being a cool fan!
@shadowghst7704
@shadowghst7704 2 года назад
I should probably mention, that I have a brand new Predator 212 now at home. Still need to order the shaft sleeve adaptor and key. I also have the hour/tach meter now too. This is gonna be fun. I finished the impeller upgrade today. It was a hassle, but I got it done. I just need some snow!!
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
@@shadowghst7704 awesome you’ll be happy when you start throwing snow! I would also highly recommend the oil drain hose. Skip the mess! Rock on my friend!
@rosewd2
@rosewd2 Год назад
I wonder if its possible to put in an 8 or 13hp predator engine. I saw the shaft size on those is 1" so id have to get another top pulley for tge 1" shaft.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear Год назад
Definitely possible just need that bigger pulley and new belt. Thanks for watching rose!
@hdfsfjhfkalsjfhlsaj
@hdfsfjhfkalsjfhlsaj Год назад
Does the walk speed increase at 4100?
@GarageGear
@GarageGear Год назад
Only slightly! She’ll really get moving in the upper gears!
@kartboarder22g17
@kartboarder22g17 Год назад
I don't think this really adds anymore power, more or less when you hit heavy snow the governer should be upping the rpm to combat this. The only area where I see this helps is whe you are snowblowing smaller amounts of snow, sometime it isn't enough snow to really up the governer and therefore in this situation yes you would throw that small amount further. I guess for the small amount of time a blower like this is running a higher rpm is probably not the worst idea, just not too necessry I don't think.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear Год назад
Thanks for sharing
@nicolaassnoek9902
@nicolaassnoek9902 2 года назад
I am looking at a newer Ariens 24 compact blower with auto turn steering. Just wondering if this was a good system, what do you feel about it?
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Hey Nicolaas! Does the compact come with auto turn? Thought it didn’t. Great for me for the last 10 years on my 28” blower!
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
I didn’t adjust the rpm on that one but I would imagine that if you bumped it up 300 rpm that probably would do it! Thanks for watching!
@bc454irocz89
@bc454irocz89 8 месяцев назад
dont forget modifying the airbox with bigger holes and adjustable main jet or drilling out the jet
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing bc.
@bc454irocz89
@bc454irocz89 6 месяцев назад
@@GarageGear I drilled mine to .031"
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 6 месяцев назад
@@bc454irocz89 good to know. Thanks again.
@russellstephan6844
@russellstephan6844 2 года назад
I put a 8HP (301cc) Predator engine on my 1980's Ariens ST824 in the middle of last season. Currently, the hour meter stands at 22.6 hours. I love the combination! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J_uXxLUTCH8.html
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Awesome video my friend! Thanks for sharing!
@hbap433
@hbap433 Год назад
What are your thoughts on increasing the pully size for the auger from 3" to 3.5" or even 4" to get more torque out of the auger? cheers Damien
@GarageGear
@GarageGear Год назад
Seen someone do it before. You should just need a bigger belt and you may have to modify your belt guides. Thanks for watching h!
@bc454irocz89
@bc454irocz89 8 месяцев назад
you will get less torque but more speed
@griffinphilemon5083
@griffinphilemon5083 6 месяцев назад
​@bc454irocz89 wrong, bigger shieve sizes= more torque, less speed. You're gaining circumference compared to the 3/4 shaft spinning 4100rpm a 4" shieve is over 5x bigger than the engine output shaft so the belt will spin 5x slower. Around 770rpm but gain about 5x more torque. Speed and torque are equally proportional
@bc454irocz89
@bc454irocz89 6 месяцев назад
@@griffinphilemon5083 no you're wrong impeller rpm = engine rpm x engine pulley diameter/ impeller pulley diameter. Making the engine pulley bigger means faster impeller speed
@jeffreydillner1897
@jeffreydillner1897 2 года назад
I was in a band named "Sloppy Wet Gutter Snow"" in 1997...
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
That’s AWESOME! Thanks for sharing Jeffrey!👍
@The_Mace
@The_Mace 2 года назад
Next step: Nitrous. :)
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Hahahaha! That would be amazing! Or a flame thrower attachment lol! Thanks for watching Mace!
@garydunnjr8176
@garydunnjr8176 2 года назад
Did we say garage gear gear? Need to be part of the tribe official 😁
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
ROCK ON GARY!!
@hdfsfjhfkalsjfhlsaj
@hdfsfjhfkalsjfhlsaj 2 месяца назад
I like 4200 for max HP and then it drops to max torque for the 212 and 224.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing and watching
@Litauen-yg9ut
@Litauen-yg9ut 2 года назад
The ol' girl is in nice shape...
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
She’s in terrific shape! The new engine really brings this thing to life! Thanks for watching litauen!
@BigDaddysGarage
@BigDaddysGarage 2 года назад
👍👌
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Congrats on commenting on 150 videos! You ROCK Flint! 👍
@BigDaddysGarage
@BigDaddysGarage 2 года назад
@@GarageGear I know, well I HEAR it helps. so...yeah. LOL
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
@@BigDaddysGarage gotcha! Likes and comments do help with the RU-vid algorithm and helping a video get more traction. I appreciate all of yours my friend!
@the6cow6god6
@the6cow6god6 2 года назад
4250 would of been better ;)
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
😈 perhaps but I decided to go with the majority on this and it really sends the snow! Thanks for watching Trekkin!
@edrumsas5420
@edrumsas5420 2 года назад
Very cool. Going to get one today on my Ariens
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Awesome my man! What size ariens do you have? 24”?
@edrumsas5420
@edrumsas5420 2 года назад
@@GarageGear yes
@norge696
@norge696 2 года назад
I thought you were going to rejet the carb. 🤣
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
That could be down the road but my winter is winding down fast! Plenty more coming on this snowblower! Stay tuned!
@norge696
@norge696 2 года назад
@@GarageGear Someone on the snowblower forums sells adjustable main jets for the predator engines. ez pz.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
@@norge696 oh! Please share their name/details! Thank you👍
@norge696
@norge696 2 года назад
@@GarageGearhis ebay and snowblower forum name is Waterlooboy2hp.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
@@norge696 thanks for sharing my friend! 👍
@GlitchEmpireBrett
@GlitchEmpireBrett 2 года назад
Awesome video I’m not regretting subscribing to you
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Thanks Glitch! I promise to not let you down! Thanks for watching another! 👍
@GlitchEmpireBrett
@GlitchEmpireBrett 2 года назад
Are you gonna put a auger kit on it?
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
@@GlitchEmpireBrett already did and that video comes out Saturday! Stay tuned! 👍
@GlitchEmpireBrett
@GlitchEmpireBrett 2 года назад
@@GarageGear thanks dude I figured you would I’m watching it now and I seen your other vid about propeller kit but I’m always like to learn more and watch
@thomasryan8218
@thomasryan8218 2 года назад
Check out Red Beards gararge on RU-vid, he does a lot of Predator engine builds. He just did the new Predator 459cc.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Thanks Thomas! I will definitely check that channel out! Sounds like it’s right up my alley!
@sonicboomin
@sonicboomin 2 года назад
If you were closer to me, I meet you for beers bro.
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Haha ROCK ON Savage! Where are you located again?
@sonicboomin
@sonicboomin 2 года назад
@@GarageGear new jersey
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
@@sonicboomin got it! If I ever do a garage gear meet up I’ll keep you posted!
@vitalyabramenko8641
@vitalyabramenko8641 9 месяцев назад
It's gonna kill your engine faster than before. That's all you get, plus more fuel consumption
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing
@jerryschneider145
@jerryschneider145 2 года назад
When this engine blows up, will you be honest enough to tell us all, and that you waisted all this time and money?
@GarageGear
@GarageGear 2 года назад
Yes I will be honest but I don’t think this has been a waste of time or money! This has been a really fun project with incredible results so far! And if someone can take a used snowblower and make it operate like new again for less than 1/5 of the cost of a new one then hey that’s a win! Thanks for watching!
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