[How to Grow Mushrooms] Grain Spawn

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@TheRoadtoGonzo 3 года назад

The only step I can think of altering is the dumping out into the sink. I will probably drill holes in the soak bucket and then nest it inside of another bucket to fill it up for soaking, then just pull it out for drainage. I just don't like the idea of cleaning up a sink every time lol

@sporemuse 16 дней назад

Been going through all your How-to videos and i gotta say, you have great taste in music

@addisondraper3574 3 года назад

Mossy Creek, you are awesome! Thanks for all the super helpful info. I really appreciate it. - Addison

@jchristolus 4 года назад

Good video. Strait forward. Simple. Thank you!

@justinbleil4518 4 года назад

Thanks for making these videos and sharing this information, it is hugely valuable. I'm getting started on a small scale now with oyster and shiitake, and it's a great resource!

@BPainter-kj2mf 11 месяцев назад

Your knowledge is amazing appreciate your time n help

@juancosme6670 5 лет назад

Hey man. Your videos with music are so relaxing. I mean dam bro.!!!. Always loving the content!!!

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Thanks!

@kiya1104 2 года назад

Hello, thank you for teaching me that you are a smiling and attractive teacher. I am a few thousand kilometers away from you, and thank you for RU-vid, whose playful writer and excellent expression has connected me to you. Be happy with your family and friends. Google is God forbid

@matthewwetzel7671 2 года назад

Great Information, thank you! How long can I keep the sterilized grain in storage before adding the mycelium?

@brianschreech 3 года назад

Great job. Thanks!

@moranesis2 3 года назад

thanks for your wonderful work, I will follow your channel, :)

@NomadicMedhunter 5 лет назад

Hell yea North Spore shout out. Thanks for sharing the video

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

They are a good company for sure.

@Ekzimmermann 5 лет назад

Great video! Oats are my favorite too. You have a good supplier. We always get a few corn kernels or soy beans in the mix and good lord is it dusty. Lol

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

I still get some of that too. Though not much. Faithway is a great company. Everything they do is quality.

@nelgnewg 4 года назад

Hello Andrew! Just got turned on to your videos. Love them and think you do a great job in your step by steps. You're always smiling too, that just makes watching them more fun!! My family and I love mushrooms so it would be cool to grow our own so this is a learning thing for me right now. Forgive the newbie questions, but can you tell me what kind of bags you use to pressure cook the grain in and where can I get them?

@josephpowers6562 Год назад

They’re called unicorn bags, you want the bags with a .02 micron filter so they will keep out all other spores but still allow fresh airflow so the grain can fully colonize. You can also just use mason jars with modified lids.

@ocarinadeitytapion2602 5 лет назад

i havent used anything but rye berries, i think i might try some oats for my pino's

@alexreinhardt28 4 года назад

A little warning I had to learn the green way. If you ever get an autoclave you won't be able to do bags that way. You'll either have to put the tyvek sleeve down in the bag as a filter or youll have to squeeze the air out and preseal the bags. I prefer the preseal method. Works great. You get an occasional popped bag but it's rare if you get all the air squeezed out

@jonathanfernandez8360 Год назад

What the heck is going on with RU-vid?? I've been youtubing mushroom grows and spawn ,grain , lc , grow tents etc etc for months now!! I mean serious man hours just learning and it never recommended ur page or even suggested it! A random customer at work told me about your page and man was i.missing out!!!! Well subscribed now! Bell notification on! Great content brother! Thank you sir honestly 🙏

@markusg9291 3 года назад

Thanks for the Video. For how long and under which conditions can I store grain spawn jars? Thanks

@killerkennyas 5 лет назад

And you can tAke kernels and put on agar plates..great video

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

I have done that as well! Works great.

@killerkennyas 2 года назад

@WEBSPORES ON INSTAGRAM fuck outta here w that scamming bs bro

@bendrix1883 3 года назад

Is it bad to mist your hepa filter with alcohol? Thank you

@chatimer 4 года назад

for using a standard 23 quart presto pc, I have the tendency to always put too much water, like over 3 quarts. what's the proper amount for a 90 minute cook ?

@dnfmotocross7571 3 года назад

Do you open your pressure cooker infront of hepa filter and innoculate grain immediately? Or is it ok to take it out in open air and store it for a bit

@joshuafreeman6720 2 года назад

Finally a video Without gypsom.. Is that stuff necessary in spawn or substrate because it seems relatively expensive for what it is. I just got a 50 pound bag. If whole oats from tsc. Wondering how much oat weigh agywr soaking so I can make just a five pound first trial. Thanks

@chrisuy 4 года назад

Hi! how long can the fully colonized grain spawn be stored?

@gitachaulagain6585 3 года назад

can we use cotton in the bottle as cap to make grain masters

@rarcostan5579 3 года назад

Hi Sir can I use rice grain instead of oaths? Is it the same process?

@benjaminstaton6823 5 лет назад

Great vid brothers and sisters !! We are in Ohio, and you are in Tennessee Tennessee...ain't no place I'd rather be...sorry got distracted...my question is what ambient temperature range are the buckets in when they are soaking?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Absolutely, the Central South for the win! around 70F

@dancarroll6801 4 года назад

hi, i am about to grow for the first time. couple of questions. i will be using hay and coffee grounds and will start with 100g of spawn grain.how many grams of button mushrooms should I get on average from 100g of spawn? how much hay and coffee is needed for 100g of spawn? keep up the good work. cheers

@rico5114 4 года назад

Do you sterilize before shipping? Or do I have to use pressure cooker?

@karunagaranarumugam8082 Год назад

Great bro.. ❤️🙏

@trip_lord1atinstagram890 Год назад

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@urraca44 2 года назад

Thanks for the video. Whats the capability in liters of your Pressure cooker?

@emea9818 2 года назад

its a 24 lts Presto Pressure cooker,

@ondrejv416 5 лет назад

hi thank you for sharing, though Im a little confuces - you go petri plate - then expanding to grain spawn back - then expanding to another 10 bags with oats - after that to mastersmix fruiting bags and then the cycle is over and you gotta start over from a petri plate/master tube? to keep the strain healthy and fast growing? :) Do the bigger spawn producers do it differently? thank you again for everything you are doing for us! always plesure to look

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

This is correct, and yes they do variations on this. Usually much larger scale though.

@Joel-McConnell 3 года назад

What EXACT bag types are you using? I have heard they will melt if they touch the side of a pressure canner? Is the trivet on the very bottom of your pot or raised up? If raised up how high? How much water do you add to pressure cook them for 2.5 hrs? Seems they might boil dry? Thanks! :)

@mejiaraoul 5 лет назад

Hi Andrew! So, no simmering/boiling like I’ve seen in other grain spawn vids.? They get hydrated enough in the 24hr. soak? Thanks again for the great tutorial!

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

That is correct, thank you!

@emea9818 2 года назад

Can I ask hoy much liters you put on the presssure cooker to sterilize this? 3 liters? Thank you very much!

@melindadeseranno6563 4 года назад

Do you ever add gypsum or coffee to your grain spawn? (Gypsum for keeping grains separate and coffee for PH).

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

I don't add gypsum, but I do add coffee sometimes. Coffee grounds for smaller inoculation points, I don't do it to effect ph.

@mattallen3535 3 года назад

How long do you usually let the oats dry for on average?

@kathyanne3587 5 лет назад

Great video Andrew, thank you. Question, i think you use agar for your spawning, do you put straight agar in the bags, or do you expand each plate with distilled water and blend (dont know the terminology) then spawn?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Thank you. We make grain masters in jars. We take a small piece of petri grown culture and drop it in a grain master jar and let that grow in.

@killerkennyas 4 года назад

I do the same..about a quarter plate per jar..and then make a jar into 1 or 2 bags

@m.d.498 9 месяцев назад

How long after soak and bagging can they rest? If i can only do 6 bags per 24 hours will making 12 bags and doing them over 48hrs be ok?

@Bigjake610 4 месяца назад

How much water are you using in the pressure cooker? Thanks

@zorro007salla 2 года назад

Greetings from the philippines. Thank s for the info, g corticeps, in China jin chong chow,

@madarauchiha116 4 года назад

hey, what if i dont have pressure cooker?

@ranjanty 2 года назад

What is a master jar? Is that grain in a jar that gets inoculated first then dumped into a bag to grow out?

@williamboucher6719 4 года назад

Quick question, I didn’t see where you sealed your bags, where in the process do you do that?

@jmseipp 4 года назад

@ 8:50

@bbbk53 2 года назад

You say you dont seal the bags just fold them, but when shaken they look sealed on vid. Pls explain. Ty

@chicofromph33nix64 10 месяцев назад

I ordered grain spawn bags by accident instead of all in one grow bags.. can I still grow in the bag if I put vermeculite on the top and bottom? Or do I need to transfer it into a tub?

@12345shipreck 4 года назад

What determines how high you can multiply it? And once you have reached that point, how would you reset it so you can keep getting more bags?

@archiewebster5034 Год назад

I think you can repetitively transfers your spawn to as many hosts as you want. If your wondering whether you can keep the same genetic running and multiplying constantly, it may slightly change the characteristics after extensive use over a long time period. Though as long as you keep it clean and don't let it over grow, your all good. It doesn't hurt to take a tissue sample of a nice fruit and run it through some agar then to grain for fresh genetics. What I do is just buy some fresh spawn from a supplier every now and then to spread it to more bags, keeping the cycle going.

@seussiii 5 лет назад

I kept waiting for a breakdown on the board art lol

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Lol, my employees were planning a mutiny!

@Tengukashi 2 года назад

How much dry grain do you use per 5 lb bag?

@abilliongazillion356 4 года назад

As far as nitrogen, how are winter rye berries, compared to the oat you're using?

@bigbrotheriswatching2680 3 года назад

I use whole oat horse feed from tractor supply. racehorse oats work really well, but I use the cheap 'producer pride' brand. not the sweet feed stuff or the 12/15%. just pressure cook it twice and keep it outside in a tied up trash bag to keep weevils out of my house and kill any resilient bacteria.

@djcaylus 3 года назад

Hey ! Thanks for Your videos ! I begin in mush growing and I have a small pressure cooker and plan to buy one "king size", could You please tell me what size do You have for a pressure cooker? I can only make 2 small bags actually and wish to be able to sterelize at least 2 or 3 big bags at once... Thanks ! And all the best from Belgium !

@josephpowers6562 Год назад

Just get a presto 23 quart. It’ll be plenty for any person looking to venture into larger capacity operations.

@PatchCornAdams723 3 года назад

Did you ever get your lambskin gloves?

@lynet9849 4 года назад

First of All, i love Your video. I grow with corn or rye grains. But I have a problem. The mycelium always stop growing. Normaly i put some spore i My jar from a print. I saw your video about making syringes yourself. Now My preasure cooker dont go down to 15 psi. Its more like 20 kpa. You know kilos instead of pounds. My question is if You know what happens. I think to much preasure bringes water to the glasses or i need to use syringes instead. Ill maybe try oats too. And I never have contamination. Im thinking to try a New preasure canner from mirro. Again thx for the great videos. Please help a noob. :)

@lynet9849 4 года назад

@@justinlangley9529 ive started on agar and liquid culture. Just bought spore syringe to start it. My old spore prints a contaminated, because they Are too old. Guess 3 maybe 4 years i the fridge i too long time. Haha. But thanks for the answer.

@abilliongazillion356 4 года назад

where are you gettin those wide mouth canning jars that don't say 'Ball' or 'Kerr' on them?

@cynthiagrier6162 3 года назад

You can purchase them from Walmart, when they are in stock.

@juancosme6670 5 лет назад

New vid!!!

@killerkennyas 5 лет назад

Like a boss applesauce

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

;)

@Suyamu 4 года назад

How does the generation thing work with mushrooms? If I use grain spawn to inoculate another grain it adds to the generation count? If I put a grain kernel on a petri dish and isolate a clean chunk of it into another petri, does that add to generation count? Does it improve the quality of the mycelium if I do that to prevent it from degrading? Does it improve the quality if I let it grow and fruit and then clone a mushroom? Or do I ever only get to use a strain for a couple of generations and then have to make a new strain from spores to prevent degradation? Is there a realistic way to keep a strain I like going indefinitely?

@mintislad3900 2 года назад

Gotta start from spores again every 6 months unless you stock up and make like 10 jars of liquid culture you should be good then iv used the same lc for like 8 months now

@michaelleewagaman301 5 лет назад

And it leaves a funny smell in thr air.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

? Pressure cooking?

@michaelleewagaman301 4 года назад

No during the fermentation period. I usually do the rinse, soak, boil and drain method. It stinks up my house for a bit. But i recently switched over to your method and i have found less burst kernels.

@suestaley844 4 года назад

I have some heavily grown plug spawn for oysters. How do I convert that to a liquid culture and then grain spawn? Is it possible to obtain a pure culture?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

I would take it to petri dish first to make sure it's clean, then add a chunk of the petri to some LC.

@nunyabusiness1312 3 года назад

I use brown rice

@rustblade5021 3 года назад

i stopped doing a soak alltogether.... i did some experiments and found that the soaking or not soaking had almost no difference. what's key is the simmer, it makes a huge difference the unsimmered grain took close to 2 weeks to colonize

@mintislad3900 2 года назад

100% simmer is better

@huntintrailmetals9343 2 месяца назад

What does a fellow micologist gotta do for one of dem spore prints?

@eltonjohnson 2 года назад

what's the rune on your finger?

@goldwalker6099 4 года назад

Are these special bags?

@GM-yx8le 4 года назад

What’s your favorite type of mushroom? I can’t find the video where you showed it, I watched it earlier today, and should have saved the name. The looked white and similar to young oysters.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Could it have been the Cool Touch oyster or the Black Pearl King?

@fandorenko 2 года назад

As far as I can see, you use wooden shelves. Wood has a porous structure in which contaminants can multiply. Have you had any problems with this?

@rb3425 5 лет назад

I am a beginner and I performed my first ever inoculation 8 days ago. Just like all the channels I have watched up until now instruct. Mine is coming along slow but it has been 8 days and I am finally seeing some white fuzz at the bottom of the grow bag. How do I know that white fuzz is mycelium of the spores I put in there and not some other white mold or another type of potentially dangerous growth? I am posting this question to several channels to get a consensus. Thanks!

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Well, you wont know until it grows out. As you grow a few more times you'll start learning what the different strains mycelium looks like. Congrats on taking your first steps!!!

@rb3425 4 года назад

@@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial Thanks for the feedback!

@potpotg480 4 года назад

Hello..I'm having trouble with my grain spawn.the mycelium is moving very slow.what should I do?

@williamboucher6719 4 года назад

Jhea Aguilar are you using bags or jars? Either way after you have some growth, roll your bags or jars to spread the mycelium around to speed it up

@aaronshaw1953 3 года назад

Exotics 💯

@ahsookie1 4 года назад

Can you do requests? I would like to have turkey tail and lion mane.

@cynthiagrier6162 3 года назад

Hey Andrew, this looks great. I tried soaking my grains. Put them in a bucket, spit in it, but I did not get any bubbles. I went to the store this morning and bought some yeast, but there was only one hour left before it was 24 hours. I threw in the yeast, and gave it another hour. Still no bubbles. Also, my water was much cloudier. Should we rinse the grains first? I drained them because I didn't want them to sprout. They are now in jars waiting to be pressure cooked. If you get this and feel like responding, I'm really curious why the fermentation process wasn't as simple and easy as you describe. Is there something I've missed? Thanks for all the great videos!

@cynthiagrier6162 3 года назад

P.S. The grains I purchased at my local co-op were "groats" meaning the hulls had been removed. That's why the water was cloudy and they opened when I pc'd them. A friend suggested horse feed, which is the whole grain with the hull. You might want to add that bit of info to your videos to make sure people don't waste time and money as I did with groats.

@booboobrown5634 2 года назад

Water has to be warm

@DavidSanR 4 года назад

Never mind, i find the video about it hahahaah !! thank you.

@waaaahooooo1538 4 года назад

How much water do you add to the pressure cooker?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

As much as I can without it going into the bags.

@shanesmith89 4 года назад

Wow no cook after the soak? Just straight to PC? Interesting!

@MrBusta30408 4 года назад

@@justinlangley9529 thanks for sharing your techniques. I'm looking at trying my hand at some morels using a liquid culture.

@kakipipi3 4 года назад

How do you know that your moisture is OK?

@muizahmedqureshi9009 3 года назад

eventually the water will go away and only little water will be left . it should feel like it has dew drops

@michaelleewagaman301 5 лет назад

Where do you get your mushroom boxes you use to deliver to your customers?

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

I get them from Uline.

@michaelleewagaman301 4 года назад

Any particular kind? Thats where i buy my tp in bulk, saves me money and lasts me a whole year. Haha

@tochtliochtli7239 4 года назад

Nice Berserk tat 😂

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Thank you!

@SirFency 3 года назад

I tried to inoculate corn that I think might have been over cooked. Is there a way to save it? Can I mix it with a better batch of properly cooked corn? I hate to waste the spores if I can save them.

@hjerbert 3 года назад

Try and learn

@SirFency 3 года назад

@@hjerbert I have been. Its been a slow start but I finally have some signs of life. I had to throw out my other grain as no attempts I have made to save it seemed to work.

@unreality4337 Год назад

@@SirFency how did it work for you? I bought a huge bag of maize/corn. I was told to boil for 2 hours, dry out then pc for 2-4 hours. Hbu

@SirFency Год назад

@@unreality4337 after I finally got some of the corn to work I moved out to a substrate then fruit flies ate all the mycelium. I never was successful

@unreality4337 Год назад

@@SirFency those bastards!!!. They are my biggest enemy. I have no mercy. Did you use a tent to store the substrate chamber?

@xojioghbiu 4 года назад

Didn't see inoculation process

@MrAlcapown 3 года назад

4:45 🤙🏽also 8:43 ✌🏽

@coreyduncan5277 5 лет назад

Are these hulled oats? I that what you ask for at the mill? Everything i see is hulless.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

I always ask for whole oats.

@adambier2415 4 года назад

Your patreon page says “MossBack Mushroom Sydicate” ...do you mean syndicate or am I missing a play on words? *this question is coming from someone who heavily relies on spell check.

@406Style 5 лет назад

Hey guys, can we talk about using plastic in a pressure cooker and any alternative for using glass bottles etc . ? It just bothers me and yes, i only grow for home use so i use jam glasses. No offense, just asking why you prefer bags, besides the fruiting thing ofc ?

@406Style 5 лет назад

It is late and thats the best i can come up with ^^ Please excuse my bad English right now guys okay :P

@samuel58237 5 лет назад

With my presto I can do 7 jar or about 7 lbs of grain per load. With 6 five pound bags you get thirty pounds of spawn per load. Its simple production as compared to home use. When you are doing hundreds of bags a week jars are to time consuming.

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

@@406Style Honestly it just comes down to raw productive power vs labor. Jars are too much labor for not enough reward. I wouldn't be able to compete with the big boys.

@prod.downysounds4386 Год назад

what sealer do you use?

@trip_lord1atinstagram890 Год назад

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@UfoSmith 4 года назад

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@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Best comment ever! :)

@neil9383 5 лет назад

Not sure, but it looks like someone is drawing grenade plans on your board there!

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

Mutineers!

@burleman 3 года назад

I missed the inoculation step. Do you use liquid culture? If so how much per bag? Thank you.

@MakesSens 3 года назад

Is that a brand of sacrifice I see there struggler?

@mukhumor 3 года назад

keep on spawning.

@ludahfang559 3 года назад

Damn they sell some of their products for so much. Good thing my vendor isn't all that expensive.

@ali22007 4 года назад

Can you use this method for magic mushroom too??

@teknacious 4 года назад

smh dude

@ali22007 4 года назад

@@teknacious Smh to you too bro😊

@Mossycreekmushroomsofficial 4 года назад

@@ali22007 This method works for pretty much all mushrooms that are commonly cultivated.

@chrisuy 4 года назад

This is the most hassle free method i've seen. Some boil, rinse and dry the grains beforehand and I think that is too much work.

@goodsamaritan3991 4 года назад

Just a heads up! The reason for simmering for around 10 minutes after soaking is this. Ideally, before one places the grains inside a bag, the grains should be wet on the inside but not on the outside. Simmering the grains for around 10 minutes has, as far as I can tell, two reasons: (1) It hydrates the grain a little bit more. (2) When one drains the grains immediately after simmering, the hot steam evaporates so that the grain becomes dry on the outside but not on the inside. Placing the grain inside a bag before the grain is completely dry on the outside (but not on the inside) often causes the grain to have too much water inside the bag. I believe one wants the grain to be hydrated but not wet on the outside. When one drains the grain after simmering, one can literally see the steam evaporating from the grain. The steam helps the grain be dry on the outside but not on the inside. :)

@mikehancho1613 2 года назад

I keep getting trichoderma mold it's really disheartening...I always feel like my method is sufficient, I go to great measures of sterility and feel good about my process until I see the green monster.