HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR MOTORCYCLE ONBOARD SOUND RECORDINGS // SCHAAF-METHOD 

Brilliant vid. I use the Zoom but put it in my jacket pocket, winter jackets are fine but with the summer ones, I start to get wind buffeting noise around 50MPH. Your idea about the foam is fantastic. I might try that but with a Kreiga US-10 tail bag and see what results I get. Cheers :)

I didnt need anything before I started watching your channel.. Now I want a FY-G3 and now a zoom!!! Stop it your costing me money!! Great vids by the way love them.

I’m watching this in 2023 and your bike audio is still one of the best audio captures I’ve heard even with our current wireless mic options etc, this still sounds awesome

thanks for watching & the sub! The foam is, like you said, for "a better fit" and of course also for protection. I don't really know, how tough these recorders are :) You just need to look for a backpack which has some suitable pockets. Inside the backpack there's no need for protection against wind noise!

here i am, watching in 2023

why this movie has so many dislikes? It's funny and useful, thanks for it :)

thanks a lot, RJ! The main purpose of the foam is to protect the recorder. There's almost no wind noise up to ~90 MPH with the backpack method but of course the sound's quite a bit muffled. It always depends on the bike though. With the loud KTM it sounds pretty good but with my own bike, the CB500, I always have to fiddle around with Premiere's equalizer to get decent results. Unfortunately I don't know much about EQ's so the result's often some sort of lottery :)

I really like the way you edit your videos man! :) It's funny, entertaining and interesting. I do not get bored, and thats good! :)

Hi Schaaf! I bought the same microphone (Zoom H1). But Ive got still wind noise in my backpack. So I think the trouble is my backpack? And; what are the settings on your microphone? And which setting have your input level ? And which backpack is that? Thank u! :)

Fantastic Video and very Useful Tutorial!

10 years later...still a legend!

Just picked up a Zoom H-1 myself. Can't wait for the snow to clear to test it out on the road! (Put up a stand-still sound test of the bike now)

AWESOME video! Subscribed. Can't wait to explain the block wrapped in duct tape sitting in the backpack when cops pull me over though.

For me it depends a lot on what kind of bike I'm riding. I.e., I mostly ride Ducatis, and some of the best Ducati sounds come from the intake, not the exhaust, so having the audio recording device in a backpack doesn't work very well. The best audio I've managed so far came from putting a foam wind slayer on the GoPro and a fluffy wind muff on the H1n, GoPro on the chin bar of the helmet and the H1n in a side pocket of a backpack. By using both audio tracks you can balance intake/exhaust noise to recreate what you actually heard while riding. The only issue with that method is you have to be a *lot* more precise in syncing your audio, just a visual cue along with a noise isn't enough since you need milliseconds of accuracy to sync the engine sound. Usually it works for me to have a coarse audio sync cue like tapping something metallic in the video, then that gets it close enough to zoom in on the waveforms and look for the similar engine sound patterns in the two audio tracks and sync them up more precisely that way. You can tell when you're close because the combined engine audio will suddenly become sharp and clear.

Genuine lol at the "stick it in" bit. Ah thanks Schaaf! :D

Hi, can i ask you which settings you used for the best result on the Zoom 1? I bought one too, thanks!

Whats your gain set to ? from 1-10 ? thanks in advance. i have the H6 btw

Best video I've seen in AGES!!! Love your work!

verfolge deine videos schon ne weile und muss echt sagen ,dass sie immer besser werden :) sehr kreativ und mit ner guten portion humor..schaut man sehr gerne. mach weiter so :) lg

awesome! Hope you'll get some good results!

Hi again! You commented that you set the autolevel to on. But which are the rest of the configuration values that you use? Do you use the limiter, what config of file (WAV, mp3, hz) do you use? Thank you!

That beeping horn technique is really smart.. why did I never think of that. Will definetly try this out!

This is brillant! Not only a useful guide but also a funny and very well edited video!

:))) glad you like it, hazel. Glad you still watch my videos :)

wtf? why so many dislikes? great video, thx @schaaf!

Very useful video. Thanks for that. Simple and easy too. Leaving the recorder on and syncing the audio later with the camera saves a lot of time in the field. Nice work.

Ordered the same recorder thanks for the tips can't wait for it to arrive and test it. I also took your advise on the time laps kitchen timer. Couldn't get an ikea one but found one shaped like a burger haha. Please have a look at my ep14 part 2 if you have time to take a look :)

You´re the man! Love your videos and your epic photos on your Instagram! So big greetings from Czech Republic !

What an amazing video. Cannot believe it's 9 years ago

Schaaf, I'm using Tascam DR-05, recorder is in the backpack, however 1) sound feels muffled, 2) there's still wind noise at 65+ mph - any suggestions besides trying different bags and input levels on the recorder?

dude you are a legend! love your videos :D cant wait to try thing my self!

Could you just use an external mic under the seat tail? I have a 2018 Kawasaki Z900RS, a GoPro Hero 4 (yes, it’s old) and a JVC external mic with the JVC factory windsock over it. I was thinking of mounting the GoPro with GoPro suction cap on the fuel tank. Otherwise I’m thinking of buying the mic in your video.

Amazing!!! I am looking to up my game in relation to my motorbike recording and this definitely helps A LOT!

ich find es super das du dir so viel mühe gibst bei deinen videos, man merkt das es dir spaß macht :) \sub

Thanks for this excellent video. I'm gonna to give it a try. I'm getting tired of recording rides and finding out I have nothing but wind noise as a soundtrack! PS: your video editing is second to none!

Awesome! Loving that desktop background

Simple but effective tips and tricks ! Nice, thank you!!

Solid video, really appreciate this setup idea. Gonna give it a shot this weekend!

Thanks for information, it's very helpful in figuring out my problem. My exhaust sounds like it is missing in the recording but not to my ears while driving, but it could be the tuning of my engine.

Sick video man, can't believe i missed this!

Danke man. Richtige gute Tipps. Hat mir auf jeden fall weitergeholfen !!

Amazing video! Thank you Schaaf! I've given up on mic setup with my GoPro, and this seems way better quality. Will give it a try! 👌🙏

Finally The perfect audio recording explanation, from 10 yr vid.. thanks if you are still looking at the comments here

Nice tips and great video! Lost it when the horn symphony began haha!

Hi Schaaf, long time viewer here! Thanks for the videos. I have an option to buy the older Zoom H1, just wondering if you are still using the H1 or did you upgrade to the H1N?

I was planning to get a separate audio recorder and was wondering how the hell am I going to sync with the go pro. The horn is an excellent signal. Thanks a lot!

and there certainly are ways to further improve my method as well! :) Let's wait and see what the next season's going to bring!

thank you! With my GoPro HD Hero 2 in picture mode!

Mit welchen Bearbeitungsprogramm bringst du einen so super klaren Sound hin? Ich selber habe eine Go Pro Hero 5 Black, habe aber sehr große Schwierigkeiten zwecks Windgeräusche .

Wahnsinn, hasst dir mal wieder richtig Arbeit mit dem Video gemacht! Daumen hoch ;-)

great tutorial! Can you give recommendation for a cheaper recorder? i want to test this approach but 100 bucks is kinda lot for the test. Or cheaper are not good enough?

Great video "write-up" and dig the videos. Envious of all the bikes you ride. Much respect to your skillset, broski.

Oh I love you Schaaf so handy and clever. Nice stop motion too

Due to different frequencies and data processing there will be drift between audio tracks,how if you get drifting do you re sync your audio ?,cheers great vid .

Hey, Nice vid. Could you tell me your gopro settings pls?

Hello! I use Zoom H2n, and I synchronize the audio with the video in an easier way! Just plug in GoPro first and then the microphone, and before you start the bike, you clap your hands at the beginning of the video, so it's much easier to find the frequency and sync! Sorry for my bad english!

Hey mate, what if you want to cut your video and split with another part, doesnt it change the whole sound thing?

Nice tutorial.. Can you tell something about the settings you use to record bike sound ? It's too cold outside and I can't test my new Zoom..

Thank you, nice video and well made.

This is an amazing edit Schaff, Woahhh, without any voice or even hands visible.

what are the ideal settings of the recorder to record in the backpack?

Cant you just use a 3.5 mm male to male cable to connect the zoom directly to the gopro with the gopro audio adapter or the media mod?

The foam prevents any wind from getting in right? But it obviously allows the sound. But as I saw, you kept the mic part out of the foam. Why was that? I mean what was the real use of foam then?

just what I was looking for. But this is 2013, could you make an updated video with the current setup?

Great tutorial man!! Subscribed

Danke dir... Bin auch am experimentieren mit meinem Zoom gerade. Habe 2 Windschutz über dem Mikrobereich und das ganz Ding in einer Socke im Rucksack gehabt. Leider noch nicht das erhoffte Ergebnis. Mache es jetzt mal so wie du es hier beschrieben hast. Wundere mich nur das du im unteren Bereich Schaumstoff nutzt und die Mikros frei sind. Aber ich teste es. Wie sind deine anderen Setting des Zoom? Lo Cut on? Ca. Eingangslevel? Gruss und schönen Sonntag.

Thanks!! I use PluralEyes for auto-syncing. Although I don't use it for these onboard videos since it's only a matter of one minute. I can live with that. :)))) I love to use Premiere because of how well it handles h.264 coded files and because of Adobe DynamicLink between AfterEffects and Premiere (even quite handy for Photoshop-files)

very nice video. thanks RU-vid needs more videos like this !

Alter, mega kreativ! Super erklärt, habe lange nach einer Lösung gesucht. Vielen Dank!

thank you very much my friend!

Quite informative and very well done! The stop motion is very good, it must nave taken quite some time to do this video, thank you very much indeed! :-)

Ahahaha, the scissors walking into the foam whitout your hand is hilarious. You have a lot of ideas and fantasy.

Hi, can you please share your zoom recorder settings too

Hello. Are you still using the same method? Which changes have you applied, if any? Thanks!

Jetzt weiß ich, was ich mir als nächstes kaufen werde 👍 Das Video war außerdem sau gut, man merkt, dass du dir bei jedem deiner Videos richtig Mühe gibst. :)

coool vid! about the recording settings, are there special settings one must follow to get the best sound from the Zoom H1? thx man!

thank you! Appreciated!

TY! , you suzuki vstrom video lead me here. Needed this tip ty

Super Video, Schaaf!

Hi bro! I'm using your method, the bike sounds really amazing! at high speed the mic (zoom q2n in my case) record a lot of wind noise, what do yo recommend for filter that noise? i used the low-cut option at 120hz or 80hz and a thin backpack (maybe i need to use a somewhat thicker backpack xD), do you tested the fur filter? greetings man!

danke vielmals :) Mit beiden Geräten kannst du garantiert tolle Ergebnisse erzielen!

thank you!!

thanks a lot, man! :)

thanks, man :) Appreciated!

great vid,subbed!!

@Schaaf i know this is 10 years old but why using foam if you leave the microphone out? Or do you push the zoom all the way inside? 😏

Would you consider doing an updated version of this video with your current setup and configs? Cheers.

I'm about to try something with gopro in a media mount and an external rode mic with big sound muff on, mounted behind registration plate near exhaust on 1250GS, have you done anything similar with good results, I don't own a Zoom recorder yet but i do have all the other equipment so just going to have a play with that.

Thanks for sharing Schaaf.

Thanks so much for this. Just tried it and it came out amazing. Will definitely be the only way I record now. Cheers 🇺🇸

I got the Zoom H2n based on your advice on external recorders. If you haven't already got one I'd suggest a windjammer - it makes a difference even if it's in your pocket. I've been using mine in a small part of my tank bag which keeps it from moving around...but I like this idea linked with your tail bag idea too. Closer to the exhaust = better sound! : ) Will give it a try.

Thanks for the video I wish I saw this earlier. I went for a ride recently and my mic was bouncing around my pouch bag. Also on the levels part I'm still working out whats the best level. I find auto not suitable as it has a mind of its own. Will post a ride video soon! Thanks a lot for the video love your content and keep up the good work! keem em coming! From Malaysia

Informative and entertaining at the same time😎

:)) Alright, have fun recording!!

hi can i plugin the Zoom H1 to the gopro Hero 4 with cable jack 3.5 and the adapter audio gopro?

thank you very much!!

Have u ever tried a lavalier mic inside the rear backseat? I was going to try, but i m scared of wasting my money. Thanks in advance and great videos ❤️

freut mich sehr, sowas zu lesen! :) Danke vielmals!

thank you! :)

One of the best videos on youtube ive seen hahaha