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How to Install a Newel Post Without Wobble 

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Learn a simple and very effective way to install new or retrofit newel posts so they don't wobble. A specially prepared piece of inexpensive 'ready rod' provides amazing strength for a rigid installation strong enough for modern glass panel balustrade systems. Master Carpenter Matt Jackson shows the step by step process for preparing the hardware plus design considerations for this type of railing while installing custom box newel posts plus tips for getting professional results.
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@tammylegg8308
@tammylegg8308 2 года назад
Great video! Can I ask a question? We have basement stairs with no knee wall--just treads on the stringer. We've refurbished them (removed carpet/padding, stained/painted, etc.) but we need to add a newel post and handrail/baluster. The only problem is that we need to attach the newel post to a concrete floor, so there's no access underneath. I was thinking that we should do what you've done above; ie., drill into the concrete and run the rod through the post, but how should we attach the post to the last stair tread? I believe our only options are to 1. cut away the front part of the last tread and mount the post to the floor at the base of the stairs, or 2. cut a hole in the last tread and mount the post on top of a block that would stop just under the tread, with the rod going through it into the concrete. The second option would not only have the rod going 6-8" into concrete, but would also have the tread surrounding the post on all four sides instead of only part of three sides...or is that overkill? Does this make sense? We have to do something, as we have a rise of seven treads with no rail, which isn't safe (it doesn't meet code and we've already had someone fall). Thanks for your help!!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 2 года назад
If you epoxy the all-thread into a hole drilled in the concrete slab (which is typically about 4" thick) it will be more than strong enough to hold a 4~5" square hollow newel post firmly, regardless of what you do with the bottom step. I'd probably make a 2 or 3-sided notch in the bottom step for positioning of the newel and for aesthetics because you don't really need it for strength. If you do choose to make a 4-sided hole in the bottom step I'd get a newel post that's long enough to extend down through the step to the concrete rather than putting it on top of any blocking. Browse Pinterest for newel post design ideas and decide how you want it to look and go with that... should be more than strong for a reliable railing. Best, Matt
@tammylegg8308
@tammylegg8308 2 года назад
@@NextLevelCarpentry thank you so much!
@dannyboy7155
@dannyboy7155 5 лет назад
FINISH CARPENTRY TV, brought me here 👍👍 Awesome Video ✋
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Welcome, Daniel... it's tough to measure up to FCTV but glad you like the video here! Best, Matt
@mikemorgan5015
@mikemorgan5015 5 лет назад
@@NextLevelCarpentry Richard is fantastic, very talented, and has unlimited potential, but he is still young and learning. His version of this will not be as strong, using hot rolled flat stock for the upper clamp block. The rest of his design is beautiful. Not knocking him or his channel. I love his work and would be proud to produce finish work half as good as him. But I understand physics and leverage.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
@@mikemorgan5015 Thanks for your comment here! Best, Matt
@tombaker3794
@tombaker3794 6 лет назад
Love the honesty showing the mistakes, the forgotten wood block.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Thanks Tom... I don't want to give false impressions of perfection in the videos in case I have occasion to meet viewers from the Next Level Carpentry audience in person some day :-) Thanks for understanding and commenting... I really appreciate it! Best, Matt
@blainehanson5915
@blainehanson5915 6 лет назад
Nice job, but this is a very old technique. I have tightened more than a few giant square nuts in basements of old houses.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Are you saying you've tightened up square nuts in basements under old newel posts or just other structural hardware? I've been around a lot of historical buildings but not seen this used on newels but wouldn't be totally surprised to learn it's the way it was done back in the day and that it's just new to me. Matt
@ernestdeak8402
@ernestdeak8402 6 лет назад
I also love the honesty about the mistakes and wish politicians would think like you 😊
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Wouldn't THAT be a welcome change to the political landscape, Ernest! Best, Matt
@victorthecarguy3126
@victorthecarguy3126 Год назад
My engineering degrees are from a far less prestigious schools but I do have a tip when shortening threaded rod or bolts, put a nut on fist then cut and/or grind as needed. When you thread the nut over the cut it will clean up the threads quickly and easily.
@brettabadie6628
@brettabadie6628 6 лет назад
I learn something NEWEL every time you POST a video. Thanks for the never ending tips!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
You one-upped me with your comment Brett... NICE!! You're welcome for the tips and thank YOU for the chuckle! Best, Matt
@trakyboy5128
@trakyboy5128 5 лет назад
😂🤣😅😆☺️
@shootsandscoots
@shootsandscoots 5 лет назад
Brett Abadie hopefully you didn’t spend too much time thinking that one ☝️
@kennethm.380
@kennethm.380 4 года назад
Straight up! That was clever.
@GotCamel
@GotCamel 3 года назад
That is a rock rigid comment. Lol
@TheTmshuman
@TheTmshuman 5 лет назад
Take some tape fold it in half sticky side out and spin it around any bit with your drill until it is of a sufficient diameter to hold against the nut and drive it like a gear. Takes a minute or less and saves more than a few. I decided that was better than a pair of sockets hammered into some conduit. Plus it’s one size fits all.
@v2plus4
@v2plus4 3 года назад
Been a stair guy for 20 years. I always install a full square post and just slide the hollow parts over it. Works good with horizontal bars. You can drill deep.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
20 years in... and you just learned something new, right? Never too old to stop learning and improving IMHO...
@danweeden9285
@danweeden9285 4 года назад
Hey Matt. Fellow master carpenter here. Also at the age where a lot of folks retire. Love the comment about the Eveready Bunny. I feel you, and I always feel it at the end of the day! :) Great video and technique. I've used this engineering on many different things through the years, but it never dawned on me to apply it to a newel. Just a friendly tip to all the aspiring carpenters out there, "You're never too old, or too good to learn something new every day!" BTW, was sent to your channel by Richard over at Finish Carpentry TV. He will definitely be a master someday.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 4 года назад
Great to hear Dan... thanks for sharing for my benefit as well as all the future master carpenters who happen across your comment. I totally agree that Richard McMurray is a master in the making! Best, Matt
@ericashworth2453
@ericashworth2453 5 лет назад
Well done, you have taught an old dog new tricks. I respect the honest way you treat the mistakes we all make.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks for commenting Eric... I'm bound to earn more of your respect if dealing with mistakes is what earns it... there's plenty more where they come from! 😂😂😎 Hope you find other Next Level Carpentry videos informative as well... Best, Matt
@richardbaum7906
@richardbaum7906 5 лет назад
I did six hollow box newel posts just like this six months ago. Very similar except I used 1/2” hanger bolts which have a wood lag screw on one end and machine thread on the other. I drilled the pilot and drove the wood screw end into the double joist below like you did. Then I used a threaded rod coupler to connect to the long piece of threaded rod. Saves on some customizing time and the threads are designed for holding in wood. On one section of railing I made the cap removable on the posts so I can unbolt and remove the entire rail system when moving large pieces of furniture around.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Great adaptation of this concept Richard... useful information for other viewers who's installation requirements and railing design may benefit for the options you found useful... thanks for adding your experience here! Best, Matt
@nealjohnson2383
@nealjohnson2383 5 лет назад
This really bailed me out on a flop house rehab. I work with the local Land Bank fixing up houses that have been seized for back taxes, with the goal of getting them back on the tax rolls. Typically this includes a new roof, kitchen, bathrooms and all mechanicals. In this case, one newel post was floppy with a shattered handrail connection, and one newel post that was missing (a 2x4 was screwed vertically into the flooring which took it’s place, though I’m not sure why they bothered). This was a 150 year old house & the drywall downstairs was already done, so I used this method from the top. I was not able to center the threaded rod, but I offset the hole in the bottom centering block, and the centering block kept the post centered. I also pinned the bottom of the post to the bottom centering block in addition to shimming as needed for plumb. I know I’ll be using this method again! Thanks!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Great adaptation Neal... way to go! It's a prime example of the strength and effectiveness of this method. Good luck on your future projects where it sounds like this might work even better for you. Best, Matt
@cannonballken9807
@cannonballken9807 4 года назад
Not bad, i have worked for a custom stair company for 31 years and have just retired. The way that was delivered was the correct way to get it done. I have to say there are a lot of people showing how to install newel posts ,set rails, install trim ,what have you, Next Level Carpentry knows his stuff.
@kathleencutrell2123
@kathleencutrell2123 5 лет назад
I'm trying to help my dad put a railing on his steps and it's like the blind leading the blind. This videos helps me to comprehend the right way to tackle this project. Thanks!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Hope it helps you both see the light, Kathleen! 😎 There's a lot of different ways for attaching newels that vary as widely as railing designs themselves but if your railing style/design/type lends itself to this installation method I'm confident you'll end up with solid results you both can be proud of! Best, Matt
@DullPoints
@DullPoints 5 лет назад
I know this is an older video, but in case you still read these I'd like to thank you for your candor when you mentioned using a forgivably misleading adjective. It's a small gesture that speaks volumes of your character. Thanks for another great video. :-)
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
As long as you're watching and commenting, Chase, I'll still be reading comments 😀😎 Yeah, I end up with a fair amount of wouldda, shouldda and couldda's in video production as I learn the ropes of video production. A pro would have edited the script but it didn't occur to me until way late in the game. I do appreciate your compliment though... it speaks volumes of your character as well. Best, Matt
@Blaster53
@Blaster53 6 лет назад
it is true pleasure to watch a video where true expert and scientist present his work. I am a lawyer but I do enjoy technology if presented in such an easily understandable way. Best wishes and regards from Berlin in Germany.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Shout out to Berlin... thanks for commenting Blaster53! Best, Matt
@michaelwalling8281
@michaelwalling8281 5 лет назад
You make an excellent argument for a hollow newel post. Enjoyed watching your work.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Glad you liked watching this Michael... I've come to believe any time a hollow newel is possible it's the way to go. Compared to notching and bolting solid posts this is pretty sweet... almost like cheating! Best, Matt
@cali_weejock
@cali_weejock 6 лет назад
The reason I subscribe to channels such as yours is so I don’t miss out on gems like this. Thanks for sharing this powerful technique.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
bish2t, fantastic... the reason I invest the time and energy to build the Next Level Carpentry Channel is to share stuff like this with subscribers like you! Thanks for commenting... it helps confirm that the effort is worthwhile :-) Best, Matt
@cargidezx
@cargidezx 3 года назад
MR CARPENTER you changed my life, keep in mind that you have a big impact on people, just want to keep going, and like you're work be proud of your life
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
Why, thank you! Such an uplifting and encouraging comment to start of a new day/week... much appreciated! Best, Matt
@sheldonharvey8306
@sheldonharvey8306 5 лет назад
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been struggling to rebuild a staircase, torn down by an unscrupulous contractor. The job I thought would take two-and-a-half weeks has taken over two-and-a-half months. I am now struggling with the newel posts--box newels I saw in a book by Andy Engle. This video offers a more powerful solution, than the 2-by-4 under-post blocking I was using. I just stumbled into your channel, today. Thanks, again.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
You're welcome Sheldon... sorry to hear you're having to deal with fallout from an unscrupulous contractor... that's never a pleasant thing. If you're able to adapt this method to your project I'm sure you'll be pleased with the end result. The project featured in the video was my first experience with it. I was thankful that the basic principal is so sound that it took very little planning to adapt it to the railing/newel design I was using. I hope you're able to do the same with design adjustments for your project! Best, Matt
@kosinskiarek
@kosinskiarek 6 лет назад
I will be doing new stairs and railing is an issues since I have no idea how to make it stiff. With your video and great idea now I can do this project. Thank you for sharing your wisdom in a way that anyone can adopt and comprehend. Thank you !!!!!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Hey Arek, good luck with your railing project... I think you'll find that adopting the principal of this method (if not the exact arrangement) will give you a stronger finished railing than any of the bracket kits available. Best, Matt
@mattberg6785
@mattberg6785 6 лет назад
Very nice. Might I suggest, cutting a horizontal pocket into the 2x10s to slip a plate washer and nut into from ceiling elevation below. I know you're dealing with limited access issues but even with a small drywall patch this would absolutely eliminate the possibility of thread pullout. And of course as you mentioned not to compromise existing structure. You got a new subscriber and hope you don't take offense to my suggestion
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
I hope I never take offense to great suggestions like your's Matt. It sounds like a good method for any installation and a great suggestion if a particular joist is 'punky', soft or otherwise less able to hold against thread pullout. Thanks for adding it here... someone, somewhere, sometime is sure to benefit from it. Best, Matt
@drewturnbull1234
@drewturnbull1234 5 лет назад
About 20 years ago, my brother was doing a reno for a customer that involved adding a small half wall at the front door. I suggested that at the end of the 4' wall , we run threaded rod through the top of the framing down into the floor. We had access to the basement ceiling below so added a large steel flat plate washer and lock nut. Amazingly stability once all torqued up.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Amazing how the physics of all the pieces come together for stability, isn't it? Best, Matt
@GaryTKerr
@GaryTKerr 5 лет назад
Matt, used method you shared after your friend shared. FANTASTIC results. Thank you.Gary Kerr Dream Your Home LLC
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Nice Gary... thanks for sharing too! Best, Matt
@charliewise4304
@charliewise4304 5 лет назад
I wish all videos on RU-vid had people that know thier sht like this guy. Strong work!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
"Strong work!" I like that, Charlie... thanks! Best, Matt
@weldabar
@weldabar 5 лет назад
Wobbly posts is a very common problem even in new construction. This looks like a brilliant solution.
@ohgary
@ohgary 5 лет назад
Bless you, sir, for effective use of a wireless mic. It's rare in these DIY videos.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
That mic gives me fits with it's delicacy and quirks but glad you approve of how it works... when it does! Best, Matt
@rogerlower56
@rogerlower56 5 лет назад
Hi Matt - anpther great video lesson ….your comment on "square with the world" reminds me of a Farmer friend who was told by his neighbor that his newly-built pole barn was not "square to the world" (amongst several other noted shortcomings, at least in his mind LOL). I'm also familiar with the "bass-ackward" method of install.....my Dad taught me well! Thanks again for another great video and the glass panels really set off that build nicely.....Roger
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks for your comment Roger... there's probably an app now that will verify whether something is square with the world or not! 🤣🤣😎 I had a friend from a farming background who loved to say 'can't get there from here' when asked for directions... those guys are full of such wisdom! Best, Matt
@MJ-qt4dm
@MJ-qt4dm 5 лет назад
APOLOGY humbly offered. Matt, after watching a first for me video of yours, I thoughtlessly suggested that the video length could be cut in half without all of your commentary. I was just plain wrong and here offer no excuse for my rude comment. Having now watched several more of your videos it is obvious to this "thickhead" that as well as being a master carpenter, you are also a master teacher who takes the time and makes the effort to explain in detail why and how things should be done. Thank you! Mike Clarke
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks so much for taking the time to redact your prior comment Mike. That takes a measure of character sorely lacking in the world these days and I want to thank you for it: no apologies necessary. Best, Matt
@scottlegendre1663
@scottlegendre1663 4 года назад
That was awesome. Love the part where what is required is, "holding your mouth just right". When that nut gets cranked down, you just know that system is solid as hell. That homemade tap on the end of the rod? Another awesome!
@mikeabbitt8309
@mikeabbitt8309 5 лет назад
I just watched your video after Finish Carpentry TV did a similar video, and yes you your given the proper credit for the technique. Great job, easy but very effective.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Gotta appreciate the character of a guy like Richard on FCTV! His abilities and that character will take him as far as he chooses to go... which will be far IMHO! Thanks for your comment Mike! Best, Matt
@davekyle6096
@davekyle6096 3 года назад
Ingenious, sir! You are a natural teacher, full of all the necessary qualities to impart knowledge effectively. High praise, coming from a career educator, myself.
@JamesMelton
@JamesMelton 5 лет назад
Hello, Sir! I stumbled upon your video as I'd been learning what a newel even was. I'm attempting to replace my pony wall at the top of my stairwell with a proper stair rail and was stumped on how to secure the newel. I've got young kids that will one day become hefty boys, and I need to ensure that railing is fastened as securely as possible. I was certain someone had a tutorial out there for exactly what you described here, and the rest is history. I'm completely new to carpentry, and never having a mentor for it, will be subscribing and watching all of your content! Thanks so much for taking the time to share your knowledge. I know I'm just one person in the world, but you genuinely helped me. Thanks again!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
It's always nice to hear when someone finds stuff at Next Level Carpentry helpful in a tangible way James... thanks for letting me know! This isn't the only way to secure a newel post but it does offer some options and benefits that other methods don't. I'd love to hear you end up doing yours this way but it's more important that the project comes out so it works best for you and your growing family. BTW Check out a new video on Trim Carpentry TV (on RU-vid) where Richard uses this method on an installation similar to yours (I think). It will give you a little more perspective on what's in store for you if you replace pony wall with railing. Best, Matt
@kenthelliker2112
@kenthelliker2112 6 лет назад
I had six posts to install on a newly installed hardwood floor. I followed your directions exactly and it worked beautifully , terrific idea, thank you !
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Sounds like a perfect application for this method... glad to hear it worked out so well for you Kent... thanks for sharing! Best, Matt
@jeremymartin6335
@jeremymartin6335 2 года назад
No BS, straight to the point professionalism 😉, I love videos like this ,it really shows this mans skills and tricks hes adapted along the way , thank God to RU-vid they won't be lost.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 2 года назад
Thanks Jeremy... I really appreciate the compliment! Best, Matt
@thetallcarpenter
@thetallcarpenter 3 года назад
Superb, even if a little bit was done, 'bass ackwards'. 😍
@orchids3332
@orchids3332 4 года назад
Great video. Best part is putting everything in terms DIY guys can understand and owning up then showing the do-over when you do it bass ackwards. Nearly every..okay every..project in my 92 year old house has been a do over just to get it right. Thanks!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 4 года назад
Hey Beany Bee... glad you liked the video. BTW the do-over thing? Yeah, it never really goes away... much as I'm reluctant to admit it happens more often than I like... getting things just right takes extra effort. Persistence is always worth it IMHO. Best, Matt
@Danman1972
@Danman1972 5 лет назад
I love how the cat in the drawing has some prey in his mouth! Our cat is a hunter.
@wuddude1599
@wuddude1599 6 лет назад
I recently learned a great tip for cutting allthread. Simply rotate it as you cut it and it'll be darn clean and ready to go.
@williamcastleberry7338
@williamcastleberry7338 6 лет назад
The best method I have seen in 40 years, other than access to the bottom and fastening to the floor framing
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
William, perspective from your 40 years helps you see advantages of this sort of thing, doesn't it? I was planning on making an oak 'core' for these posts that could be fastened (with great difficulty and disruption) to floor framing below but am convinced this method is much better and equally rigid. I actually had access to a good crawlspace below the two newels on the lower level in this video and STILL chose this method over bolting directly to floor joists/headers below. There's no doubt installations where a different method it better but I think they're few and far between. Thanks for your comment! Best, Matt
@dogmandan79
@dogmandan79 3 года назад
I watched a ton of these videos including the classic ATOH. This was the only video that was worth it and described the process entirely. Kudos.
@linotrillo9297
@linotrillo9297 5 лет назад
I like your way its very effective. I use to drive a 1/2" x 12" leg bolt with blocks just like you into the heather below by 6" and then snugly slide my post over with construction adhesive fastening it at the bottom with nails or screws hidden behind the base trim. Just my two Canadian cents 😎
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Interesting adaptation Lino... I am a bit surprised that you got acceptable results using construction adhesive to hold post to bolt... I would have guessed it would take epoxy to be stiff and strong enough to be effective. Thanks for sharing all the same... Best, Matt
@konamanstudio2447
@konamanstudio2447 5 лет назад
I came over here because of finish carpentry on RU-vid was bawling his own and I wondered about the bottom if it gets kicked out or something he shows how he cut in a metal plate for the top but he did nothing for the bottom now I see you did something at the bottom that he didn't really looks great thanks for the hens I don't know when I'll use any of this stuff if I do but it's always nice to learn new stuff thank you
@123Goldhunter11
@123Goldhunter11 5 лет назад
Nice to have access to a Master Finish Carpenter. Thank you.
@Riidher
@Riidher 4 года назад
Matt, I think you owe your buddy a beer for sharing that wonderful technique. Heck, I think I owe him one too. Looking back at how many times I have had to go into the wall to fix that problem and then repair the drywall and trim. I just shake my head... I love being an old dog learning new tricks. Tell your buddy I said thank you!
@skeefuss
@skeefuss 5 лет назад
I sure appreciate this video. I get so sick of wobbly newel posts. Ive used pocket hole jig to put 2 screws on each of the 4 sides of hollow post. It works ok with the big 6” posts. But im going to try your way next time. Keep up the great videos. Going to save me some headaches
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
It's a bit more work to do it this way but I'm confident its a great investment of time considering the reliability of the end result. Thanks for your comment skeefuss! Best, Matt
@kishka7winecountry
@kishka7winecountry 5 лет назад
Two words: Lock washer?? Over time the nuts could loosen a bit. Lock washers would minimize that appreciably in my opinion. Since you’re going through the trouble of bolting down anyway why not throw one in top and bottom? 28 yr handyman and former mechanical engineer in N California wine country. Just subbed
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks for the sub! I'm a bit surprised by how insistent viewers are about the perceived need for a lock washer in this assembly. I suspect it may be from experience working with framing lumber that's wet and shrinks when it dries leaving fasteners loose, but not from the nut spinning. Pressure from compressed wood fibers in these post is more than adequate to keep the nut from spinning and loosening and with dry wood in the entire assembly I've no fear that anything will shrink. I could have saved myself some time discussing the point though if I'd just put a lock washer on there in the video even if it's not necessary. 😁😎 Best, Matt
@junkyarddawgs9956
@junkyarddawgs9956 5 лет назад
I have done this before and it works well,but only if you have something solid below and that is not always the case because sometimes your newels are not right over a joist are band but over plywood only and all you have is your bullnose which is 3\4 thick and newel attachment kit will probably be your best option are some type of locking key mortised in the bottom of the newels. I like this method and if all new construction would put plenty of Deadwood for this application it would be great.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Right you are Junkyard! For 2 of the three newels seen in this video there was nothing but plywood subfloor at the post locations. Because it was carpeting I was able to remove a piece, install 'Deadwood' blocking, and replace the plywood for fantastic results. If conditions don't allow access by any means then, yes, a newel attachment kit might be the only option. That said I'd go to great lengths to place solid blocking because there's no comparison in the rigidity of the final product. Best, Matt
@mikemorgan5015
@mikemorgan5015 5 лет назад
Excellent method! Best I've seen. The only movement is in the compression of the materials, which really cannot be removed without serious excavation of wood and drywall or lots of heavy steel plate let in to the existing sub-floor spanning to the next joist and welded inner core post, which would be costly and time consuming. Two enthusiastic thumbs up!👍👍
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
I respect your obvious in-depth knowledge of physics on this Mike... insightful and polite... thank you! Best, Matt
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 6 лет назад
Great vid! Years ago I had a remod to do with a free-standing newel post that had been repaired several times in the past before I got to it. There was a triple 2x10 beam under the subfloor, so I drilled it for a 3/4" diameter iron pipe that I epoxied in place. I threaded the top of the pipe and used a block and a small pipe flange as a nut. The post hasn't moved in more than 10 years.
@ask234b
@ask234b 5 лет назад
Love the honesty showing the mistakes great video again
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks ask234b... plenty more mistakes where that one came from 😰😁😎 Best, Matt
@wranther
@wranther 5 лет назад
Real nice finished product!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks for sayin! This railing system upgrade from all wood balusters was a key selling point when it came time to list the house and the new owners loved it! Best, Matt
@chuckwood8020
@chuckwood8020 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing this. It might push me over the edge to try this, however, it might be beyond my skill level. Looks like a great and a real efficient way to go.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
You're welcome... I think if your skill level has you ready to build handrails then you're up to using this method for securing newel posts... here's to your success! Best, Matt
@woodatwork6927
@woodatwork6927 5 лет назад
Great video, Matt. I’ve been installing railings and setting newels for 29 years and I learned a new trick yet today. Thanks. One trick I learned many years ago is that automotive body filler (aka bondo) can take a post from “real rigid” to “rock rigid”. If you were to mix a bit of it (feather lite filler) and apply it to the block at the bottom of your reddy rod and to the inside of the box base that slips over it, it will take most of the flex out of your post. Make sure to let it harden a bit before you clean up what ever squeezes out. Right when it starts to harden, the filler is very easily cleaned up and it will not stick to your prefinished post or a prefinished wood floor. It could also be used as the shim that sometimes is needed to plumb the post by letting the excess squeeze out from under the post, making sure the post is plumb and letting it harden before you tighten the nut at the top. It only takes about 3 minutes to harden. Cheers! J from woodatwork
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Great tips Woodatwork... I use Bondo for all sorts of 'nontraditional' applications but hadn't thought of the use you suggest here... Thanks! Best, Matt
@myhauntedislandhome62
@myhauntedislandhome62 4 года назад
Thank you very much for posting. I've been a carpenter for over 20 years and one of the few things I've never done is an interior newel post. I feel a little more comfortable if I need to install one after watching your video
@jamesoneill8021
@jamesoneill8021 3 года назад
Great advice if you own all the tools. Should do a video for the home diy'ers
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
Kinda like saying "great tips for placing dental implants if you have all the right equipment. Should do a video for DIY Dentists so I can do my own at home" NOT! 😧 Best, Matt
@joeycmore
@joeycmore 6 лет назад
Genius -simplicity and strength; kudos to the mit engineer.
@douglashanlon1975
@douglashanlon1975 5 лет назад
One hint on those type of posts with no knee wall or 90 degree rail.....once you think its tight become the teenager that will live there and try to loosen it up by pulling and pushing on it hard....then retighten the nut....and add liquid nails to the hole the rod threads into...those shallow machine threads get break loose....liquid nails under the centering block wouldn't hurt either. Ive done thousands of stair cases at a piece rate where i would have to go back if things loosened up...one or two forty mile drives and 300$ back charge for finish touch up from the painter and you learn to over do things
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
The voice of experience speaks... thanks for adding your insight Douglas... Best, Matt
@patrickmccuiston7762
@patrickmccuiston7762 3 года назад
Great Job with the ready rod. We call it all-thread in California.
@samuelligo7234
@samuelligo7234 Год назад
You inspired me. I did this and it worked beautifully.
@mattberg6816
@mattberg6816 4 года назад
Matt, I like this technique a lot
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 4 года назад
You'll like it even better if you have occasion to use it! 😁😎 Best, Matt
@ralphvalkenhoff2887
@ralphvalkenhoff2887 5 лет назад
An MIT engineering professor, engineered newel post anchoring system. What can go wrong? You know its probably been thoroughly thought through. But my question is, how will the cryogenic expansion rate and thermodynamics affect your design? Either way, this will be my go-to method from now on. Thank you.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
I skipped the semester at M.I.T. when cryogenics was taught and have regretted it ever since! Every day I show up on a jobsite and the first thing I have to handle is adverse effects of cryogenics and just stand there, flat footed. Wish I knew then what I know now Ralph! Best, Matt
@robertmagnusson5094
@robertmagnusson5094 6 лет назад
I watched the whole progression and wondered how you would install them in the end. Rod with solid result. Too cool. Great set of "how to" videos from start to finish. Thanks from Canada.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Hey Robert, Truth be told I wasn't completely sure how I was going to secure the posts myself! The original plan was to make an oak post 'core' that would extend through the subfloor and be bolted on below. I abandoned that concept the instant my buddy Jared mentioned this method. He's in his mid 30's, a real sharp and conscientious guy, which gives me considerable optimism for the next generation of carpenters! Thanks for your Canada comment!! Best, Matt
@ipatchee007
@ipatchee007 2 года назад
HEY MIT dude! Great use of engineering ideas! I am so glad I watched this after watching the use of Newel posts...with the set those fancy screw/swivel bolt assemblies. However I had already gone out and purchased the 4x4 solid Larch posts for the Newel post or end post. Because it’s a sold piece I think I will drill a 3/4” double ended tapping screw/lag bold with a base on it about 4-5” long either way. The application that other craftsman had used was sinking about 4-6” of 1/2 of the 4x4 down into a pre cut, square hole. Because this is a stairwell heading to a basement and was completely finished and sheetrocked before I showed up to secure a banister with better rigidity, I can only estimate what subconstruction might be there. Your systematic way of presentation really invites novices like myself to glean much better results...in spite of our perpetual incompetence. I am an ICU nurse by trade, but learning is a way of life for us. Thank you so much for the time you spent giving us your knowledge and skills!
@samuelligo7234
@samuelligo7234 3 года назад
Genius use of all thread. Thank you for sharing. I am going to use this on my new stairs.
@Daynaleo1
@Daynaleo1 6 лет назад
Excellent solution to a problem many of us have had to deal with. I am definitely adding this to my memory “toolbox”. I don’t think I have ever not watched the. Entire video of yours.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Good to hear, Daynaleo, that there's enough to interest you in NLC video to watch the whole thing. It's always a challenge to know what to leave in and what to leave out even though everyone has a FFWD button to skip boring/uninformative parts. I'm trying a new video thing on the next upload where I plan to release both a 'Reader's Digest' version plus the full length one... if you think of it when the time comes I'd like to hear your opinion on it even though it will be a couple weeks or so before that particular upload. Best, Matt
@Bob1Mack
@Bob1Mack 3 года назад
Matt, you're a life saver. I have to do precisely this job next week, and it's been giving me nightmares.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
As long as get the all-thread driven into a solid joist or added blocking you'll be golden! Good luck to you on your project... Best, Matt
@banjotramp1
@banjotramp1 3 года назад
I've used a similar system and yours looks even stronger. The newel was located over an open section of floor, not directly over a framing member. The rod went thru the flooring and held in place with a nut and washer, and maybe another bit of plywood (been a few years).
@LitoGeorge
@LitoGeorge 6 лет назад
Fantastic. Thanks for teaching me. I also appreciate your great sense of humour!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
You're welcome LitoGeorge... glad you like it and are able to put up with my often lame sense of humor. Best, Matt
@rauldemoura2417
@rauldemoura2417 5 лет назад
VERY cool. I always get some good ideas from you! Thank you. As a retired Machinist, turned “wood worker”, I can take all the advice I can get!
@SerranoPE
@SerranoPE 5 лет назад
Boy am I glad that I found your channel. Finish Carpentry TV mentioned you in a video. I'm a teacher by trade but LOVE carpentry! So very anxious to start catching up on your videos once school let's out for summer break!! Look forward to following you along...I just subbed. Have a great day!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks for following up on that awesome shout-out FCTV gave me... welcome and thanks for the sub. I've a great deal of respect for Richard for what he does and how he does it... both traits sadly rare in the online world these days. Best, Matt
@SerranoPE
@SerranoPE 5 лет назад
@@NextLevelCarpentry 100% Agree and the reason for my sub. The people I follow on RU-vid all have similar traits - humble, down to earth people. Not pretentious...so thank YOU for being the way you are. All the best to you!
@jaredpatton7884
@jaredpatton7884 Год назад
You are the best teacher
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry Год назад
Thanks for sayin' Jared... you just made my day! 😎
@SINSTER7THREE
@SINSTER7THREE 5 лет назад
Great Idea and solution to wobbly post.
@mikethompson6713
@mikethompson6713 6 лет назад
Looked like you were making a fire running that jam nut. I’ve been there (several times). Great video. Thanks
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Couldda lit some tinder with it by the time I was done with it for sure! LOL! Best, Matt
@smasica
@smasica 4 года назад
Now that's slicker'n snot on a glass door-knob. Reminds me of how a truss-rod works in a guitar neck.
@tutekohe1361
@tutekohe1361 6 лет назад
Thank you for your demonstration... and your honesty. 👍
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
You're welcome for both Tu te Kohe... Best, Matt
@jaderassolari4344
@jaderassolari4344 3 года назад
Finish carpentry TV made me watch it. Love it
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
Richard's that kind of guy, isn't he?! 😉🤣😎. Thanks for watching! Best, Matt
@jaderassolari4344
@jaderassolari4344 3 года назад
Yeah ! It’s such a blessing to have You and Richard on RU-vid. Watching you guys videos make me love even more Finish Carpentry and take it to next level. Thanks a lot ! Happy new Year !
@direvosabostien3565
@direvosabostien3565 5 лет назад
Great work! Watched and subscribed by recommendation of the Finished Carpentry TV channel.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Welcome Direvo... I owe FCTV big time for his shout-out! Best, Matt
@Danman1972
@Danman1972 5 лет назад
I had seen a few previous videos, but have been watch FCTV work on his stuff and house. I found him looking for info on the moldings I was using for LVP I laid in the house. It turned out great and his tips helped a ton and I got the professional look I was after for a DIY project. I have seen new builds with floors that don't look as good!
@chefsteven34
@chefsteven34 5 лет назад
Same here!
@chefsteven34
@chefsteven34 5 лет назад
Direvo Sabostien Same here, not the comment below.
@jfdb59
@jfdb59 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. Now I know exactly how I'm going to remedy my wobbling newel post at the top of my stairs.
@jeffeverde1
@jeffeverde1 6 лет назад
Eagerly waiting for the video on how you made that beautiful double-dome newel cap.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Hey Jeff, I actually shot video of the process but have yet to devote the time to producing a video from it... it was a challenging and cool project though. Best, Matt
@andysparks7381
@andysparks7381 5 лет назад
If you have access below the posts, I wonder if one could just put nuts on the end of the all-thread instead of screwing into a block of wood? I want to put some posts on a deck and do not have thick, solid wood underneath, just the 5/4 decking boards.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
This method would work great for deck posts if you decide to use it. Keep in mind that the post will only be as strong as what it's bolted to so if you can get a block or blocks securely tied into framing below the deck you'll be fine. If the decking and/or joists are old, weak and weathered the posts won't be very secure. Good luck Andy! Best, Matt
@craigmonteforte1478
@craigmonteforte1478 5 лет назад
Awesome system I can’t. Even guess how many times i had to go on Customer Service calls as a employee years ago for a new home builder as a rule i was always limited to what could be done in a finished home. Without ways access to below the post without making a mess and more repair work hint you should expand the system that maybe utilizes a patented part of yours the secret of course is to build one that exceeds OSHA and most local code requirements on strength then you got a money maker !
@jeffcole1914
@jeffcole1914 5 лет назад
Loved it as usual I may not use the tip tomorrow but there will come a time
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks a bunch Jeff... guess that's the whole idea of our 'bags-o-tricks', right? Best, Matt
@jimm7626
@jimm7626 2 года назад
Nice system, I am using this method on my posts today.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 2 года назад
I'm confident you'll be glad you did! 😎
@christianengel1324
@christianengel1324 5 лет назад
I've only seen a couple of your vids but I thoroughly enjoy how you walk thru a process. Subscribing!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks for subscribing Christian... welcome a-board! Best, Matt
@michaelg.gartman1148
@michaelg.gartman1148 6 лет назад
Totally agree, the little Mickey mouse mounting kits you can buy are junk and a waste of labor. I use ready rod (we call it All Thread around here) most times, even if I only come up halfway it holds really well. I also use giant 2" dowels set with epoxy.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Sounds like you know what it takes to adapt to a wide range of conditions and railing designs Michael... hate to leave a wobbly railing! Best, Matt
@hbbh4307
@hbbh4307 5 лет назад
Great idea, I just don't understand why some idiots have to leave thumbs down.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Congratulations for leaving the 500th comment on this video! The thumbs down downers are always a mystery to me too even though I don't think everybody is going to agree with me or my ideas. Go figure... Best, Matt
@HeirloomBuilders
@HeirloomBuilders 3 года назад
Great video! I appreciate the thorough explanations.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
You're welcome... and I take your comment as quite a compliment as you're no stranger to thorough explanations for excellent craftsmanship! Best, Matt
@HeirloomBuilders
@HeirloomBuilders 3 года назад
@@NextLevelCarpentry 🙏🤩
@yardlimit8695
@yardlimit8695 6 лет назад
excellent video and method . i have been racking my brain on how to secure newell posts that will be secure on an outdoor set of steps to my porch. this is just what i need. i will dig post holes and fill with concrete and imbed the threaded rod into the concrete. i think i will use your newell post design too. i really like the looks of it. thanks for all the info .
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Thanks Trainguy... I hadn't considered this method for outdoor use but can't see any reason it shouldn't work. Be sure to use galvanized rod, especially if you imbed it in concrete. Another viewer suggested using an all-thread connector which might make your project a little more manageable because you could imbed a short piece into the concrete and then just attach a long piece of the right length when it's time to install the actual posts. Not sure the level you'd try to use 'my' newel post design but I'd try to keep it to as few pieces as possible and minimize glue ups because an exterior environment is much more abusive. Other than that I think you'd get a great deal of rigidity from this method compared to typical post-mounting brackets, etc. Let me know how it works out if and when? Best, Matt
@yardlimit8695
@yardlimit8695 5 лет назад
@@NextLevelCarpentry matt, i finally got to the newel posts on my outdoor set of steps............i dug the post holes about a foot and a half deep and let dry over the winter........this spring i drilled a 1 1/4 hole about a foot deep and added a 3/4 10 threaded rod with anchoring cement from home depot........the next day i installed my home made newel posts and locked them down with a 1/4 thick steel plate for a washer and a 3/4 -10 nut. all the posts are independent of the stair stringers cause they start a ground level sitting on the concrete and not attached to the stringers................one of the posts is 60 inches long and it is ROCK SOLID......they actually feel as though they are built right into the concrete, ...............when i saw your video last year and sent you a comment i knew this was the answer to my problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I WAS RIGHT...........THANKS.............THIS METHOD IS GREAT..............
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
@@yardlimit8695 thanks for the testimonial... and a full year since you first commented?! Nice! Glad to hear it worked so well for you... not that I'm surprised though😀😎 Sure a lot better than embedding wood posts in concrete, right? Hope the rest of the project comes together as well! Best, Matt
@anthonyboni5884
@anthonyboni5884 3 года назад
Very innovative! In the case of a solid 4x4 newel post, I used one of those metal plates that you route into the floor base and screw in a 9/16 bolt in the center of the newel that anchors into the metal plate. It’s not quite as rock solid as your set up, but still pretty strong!
@daveneuman551
@daveneuman551 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the information, I learn something valuable every single time I watch one of your videos, seriously taking my carpentry to the next level
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
Thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing to Next Level Carpentry Dave! Much appreciated... Best, Matt
@driftlaboratoires2465
@driftlaboratoires2465 6 лет назад
This channel is Gold!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 6 лет назад
Thanks for sayin', Drift Labs! BTW That's some pretty 'fancy' drifting shown on your Drift Challenge video... I didn't even know that was possible... nice! Best, Matt
@carlhenderson7254
@carlhenderson7254 3 года назад
Amazing mine newel post lands like how the scarecrow did on the Wizard of Oz. This install is awesome.
@paulcrites676
@paulcrites676 3 года назад
Hey Matt, I used your Newell post and all thread technique on a little project recently, and I have to say, it’s pretty amazing. Thank you.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
Great to hear it Paul... thanks for watching and commenting here! Best, Matt
@peter_kelly
@peter_kelly 4 года назад
Thanks for the video, just installed a handrail using this method and it worked great.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 4 года назад
Glad to hear it Peter... thanks for sharing! Best, Matt
@marcengall698
@marcengall698 5 лет назад
Fantastic real world solution ! Worked with plenty of large solid newels back in England but never a box newel . A great concept and some good comments too. Liked and subscribed.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Thanks for liking and subscribing Marc. Since you've worked with plenty solid newels you know the challenges faced to get them solid enough to be useful. That experience will help you fully appreciate this method if/when you get a chance to use it. Personally it wouldn't bother me if I never had to install a solid newel again! 😁😎 Best, Matt
@zeroquanta4252
@zeroquanta4252 5 лет назад
Veryyyyyyyyyyy Handyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Thanks for posting it.
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 5 лет назад
Yourrrrrrr Welcomeeeeee! Thanks for commenting... Best, Matt 😎
@markdudley1028
@markdudley1028 6 лет назад
Also, izzy swan makes an awesome wrench for working with all thread.
@patricktcrowe
@patricktcrowe 3 года назад
Thanks, I just went to a customer’s house, they need exactly this!
@NextLevelCarpentry
@NextLevelCarpentry 3 года назад
Cool. Do thorough reconnaissance before committing because there's a lot of things that can be a deal breaker for this sort of installation. It's amazing if you CAN do it though! Best, Matt
@stormyabraham
@stormyabraham 3 года назад
Real gentleman.
@bqeberle
@bqeberle 5 лет назад
Matt - this is phenomenal. Wow. Totally floored by your instruction, creativity, and top flight craftmanship. I'm doing a reno on an 1840 farmhouse and have to do exactly this with an added staircase. Thank you for such a well made, instructive video. One of the best I've seen. I'll dig around a bit to see if you have a newel construction video too. I have some ideas, but would prefer to see what you do for yours.
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