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This Old House general contractor Tom Silva shows how to bolster a wobbly post with a single screw. (See below for a shopping list and tools.)
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Shopping for How to Repair a Loose Newel Post:
- brace, made from scrap wood to press post tightly against stair tread
- extra-long, flat-head screw, used to fasten newel post to stair tread
- wood putty, used to conceal screw head
- 150-grit sandpaper, for smoothing the wood putty
- orimer and paint, used to finish area around the puttied screw head
Tools for How to Repair a Loose Newel Post:
- drill/driver, for drilling holes and driving screw
- layout square, used as a drilling guide
- standard-length twist-drill bit, used to start screw-shank clearance hole
- spade bit, for drilling counterbore hole
- extra-long bits, used to bore screw-shank-clearance and screw-pilot holes
- putty knife, used to apply wood putty
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@oldtwinsna8347 Год назад

@4:44 director quickly shouts out "CUT" when it starts to wobble

@HackThePlanetNow 6 лет назад

Tom is a beast. “This top is nailed on let’s just rip it off”

@jb60135 6 лет назад

Here come the keyboard carpenters

@comoelitamelendez8467 4 года назад

I'm like a wolf and can smell them coming as soon the video publishes. :D

@comoelitamelendez8467 4 года назад

@Joe Kinchicken Journalism doesn't.

@samsngdevice5103 4 года назад

Urban dictionary word of the day: Keyboard carpenter. Humm. Like.

@palabrajot505 3 года назад

I'm sorry, but Clark W Griswold showed me how to fix a newel post more than 30 years ago.

@OOOHBILLY 6 лет назад

"Tom this is great" as he shakes it and it still wobbles... Rekt

@Viggggggr 6 лет назад

OOOHBILLY *camera cuts off*

@Joepopa12 6 лет назад

Shook it less the second time.

@eriklarson9137 6 лет назад

Yay! So it was less crappy! Woohoo! Dork.

@ammerconsulting 6 лет назад

Regardless of how tight that newel post gets anchored, you will always be able to move it a bit because of its length.

@juliof970 5 лет назад

Thought I was only one that saw that.

@MRrwmac 9 лет назад

Very good tip and repair instruction. Please Thank Tom for us!

@gaittr 7 лет назад

Excellent and to the point. I see lots of people making little arguments about nitpicky things you could have done differently, but at least this gets a person started in the right direction. Plus is concise. Something you rarely find on RU-vid.

@nobat2 5 лет назад

Agreed the complaints are minor compared to getting any idea of how to fix it. This is a good representation of what you need to start repairing the railing and for one screw, I would say "not bad". I just would not stop there.

@garyh4458 4 года назад

If they are doing it for TV it should be perfect, not a hack job.

@wildjames 3 года назад

@@garyh4458 then do it yourself and shutup

@drfred1203 2 года назад

@@garyh4458 Hey there. I know you r reply was two years ago, but is there another video you would advise me to watch that you do find satisfactory? I’m about at my wits end of doing this by myself. I’m a novice. I’m fixing up my old home and I had to replace the newel post, balusters, and rail. How to mount an old newel post is difficult to learn how to do. All other video carpenters use the giant screw and a new post. Maybe I need to make a video of me trying my best.

@garyh4458 2 года назад

@@drfred1203 Depends on your situation. The giant screw works very well as long as there is something to screw it into.

@davidrobins4025 3 года назад

I'll take Tom's fix over the video critic's any day of the week.

@jeffreyspence7717 5 лет назад

Chevy Chase uses a chain saw to repair his newel posts. LOL

@boatdoctors 2 года назад

lol funny " wow this is great" as the pole wobbles like hell

@darylfitz4189 4 года назад

I would have just left that brace board in there indefinitely.

@garyh4458 2 года назад

They do that in Florida.

@jliz6435 3 года назад

A good long screw works every time

@xrisku 6 лет назад

Easy repair. Show us how to tighten an existing loose wobbly round newel post which is mounted in the center of the first tread, no place to secure it except for below.

@ryandiedrich6317 2 года назад

Here you go: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ou2Q7LyqZzU.html

@Maxid1 9 лет назад

Gotta love those Headlok screws. The Timberloks too.

@oioaljuhani9748 9 лет назад

Thanks

@fireblaster9961 3 года назад

Love how the guy wiggles his hand rather than the newel post at the end 🔥🔫

@kemiitayemi3763 4 года назад

Now I want to be a door and railing repiarman

@znrctrnn 6 лет назад

Tom: ‘I’ve got a work around to fix your pos staircase. ‘

@lunchlady2023 5 лет назад

Chain saw. Fixed the newel post.

@IAmNotAFunguy 6 лет назад

I think I prefer the Clark Griswold Method. Just break out the chainsaw...

@joshuaorourke5118 6 лет назад

IAmNotAFunguy I was thinking the same think thank you

@bhamsoxfan72 5 лет назад

@bigtx77 Can't see the line, can you Russ?

@kevino1489 4 года назад

Me too

@patrckm 7 лет назад

a screw into end-grain like that will never last

@eriklarson9137 6 лет назад

Correct.

@kingkelly9104 5 лет назад

Agreed

@theralhaljordan7337 5 лет назад

I don't know how long it will last, but drilling from the front into the side grain would have been much better, plus it would have pulled the post into the stair railing and maybe eliminating all the wobbling that was still left at the end of the video

@andrewholdaway813 5 лет назад

@@theralhaljordan7337 I do know; that wouldn't be a better solution as the screw would be at 90° to the direction of the 'wobble'.

@johnthree1611 4 года назад

At the end he says, this is great before testing the post, then it wobbles, and he lets go right away, and the camera changes scenes. I would say that newell posts appear to be badly engineered for profit, and nearly impossible to make them not wobble.

@PJJ196 2 года назад

Do the best with what ya got without having to replace the whole post.. probably gonna have to do it in 5 years

@BadAssDude69 Год назад

It's obviously much better than it was before the repair.

@johnthree1611 Год назад

@@BadAssDude69 , That's what she said.

@themalacast Месяц назад

I notice when things are well-engineered nobody says "for profit" even though companies that make quality products often do very well 😂

@johnthree1611 Месяц назад

@@themalacast , For sure. Companies that make cheap products, probably also own the factories that build those cheap parts, so they have multi-faceted ways of making profits.

@epic1231 9 лет назад

Thank You, this was a big help!

@comoelitamelendez8467 4 года назад

For sure! How many there were 4 boards holding this together?

@Chuck59ish 9 лет назад

That post was definitely not made by Norm.

@andreaheikkinen6436 3 года назад

LOVE IT!

@Venom5260 4 года назад

if they ever have to fix that stair tread they are in for a surprise

@LegoBoy1919 3 года назад

If they are replacing the treads, they probably want to replace the posts as well

@DrDman14 5 лет назад

Christmas Vacation

@theniceneighbor 9 лет назад

at the very end it was still loose.

@MrCube17 8 лет назад

+theniceneighbor No, it wasn't.

@kurtkarasch8768 8 лет назад

+theniceneighbor I agree it looked like it was! lol

@Daemiex 7 лет назад

wasnt as bad but yeah still had a wobble, but i suppose only as much as any has, they arent made for swinging on at the end of the day, ive never seen a newel with zero movement

@luisgastelum8307 7 лет назад

Lol the guy was like oh shoot when he grabbed the post

@OjStudios 7 лет назад

*shakes the post* "This is great!" *post falls apart*

@skim193 2 года назад

i wuda drilled and split the stair tread !!

@michellepaige5717 Год назад

What about a house that was built in the 1940s? Are the stairs built this way?

@umpokitomaurice6780 5 лет назад

One thing that is recommended when you're screwing in hardwood is to pass the end of the screw in your hair before; you then collect a little tiny bit of body grease from your hair, sufficient to prevent the screw from overheating!

@garyh4458 4 года назад

What if you wash your hair?

@PunchinTreezMC 2 года назад

B R U H

@spacebike420 Год назад

I use the hair from my balls.

@LuForce1980 4 года назад

Home owner seems like a Wise Guy ... 🤔🤔🤔🤔

@chrisbaldam7749 3 года назад

I’m a carpenter / joiner here in the UK and I was wondering why ?? You used a masonry drill bit to make your first drill hole into a Wooden Newel Post Could you please answer !

@stevepark3865 2 года назад

He didn't use a masonry bit

@joseph10704 6 лет назад

he was like tom this is great and the whole thing fell apart lmao.

@davidmorley1606 4 года назад

I don’t know, Clark W Griswald did a good job of fixing the Newell Post in Christmas Vacation.

@lestudio76 9 лет назад

Chainsaw.

@kev959 6 лет назад

Why is it my house always has more unique problems with various issues??? Just took another look at my shaky railing....great, posts are turned and sit flush on floor..

@eriklarson9137 6 лет назад

wat

@hurricanearthur9742 4 года назад

When everything is made of wood...

@andrewcolwell2989 6 лет назад

1:22 5 gang box

@retepmo6534 2 года назад

I have a Newel post up against a wall. How would you fix that?

@EDHBlvd 6 лет назад

4:43 Tom this is great, it still wiggles.

@JohnNanasBrooklyn 9 лет назад

Any idea how to repair when the newell post is not adjacent to a stair and at the top of the staircase? It stands flush on the floor - would I take the same approach and just try to angle the screw into the floor, or am I better taking apart the newell and pulling it up to see what's going on underneath?

@takgrillo 5 лет назад

All I know is you have to take the cap off first, I don't know why tho

@rcelectronicsllc9400 3 года назад

Why did he put the brace in so far up??? The lower it is the less it would be levering the post out of position. I thought best place to put the brace is right down next to where the screw goes in.

@mikemichelle28 4 года назад

My buddy Clark did it quicker with a chainsaw

@joemedley195 3 года назад

Better than doing it with a chainsaw like Chevy Chase,

@Guillotines_For_Globalists 6 лет назад

Should have used 5/8" lag bolts, about 5 on the side and 5 on the front edge.

@KingParisBuckingham 5 лет назад

Lagbolts good but you cant put too many,a pro puts bout 2 lag bolts and find a way to squeeze in carpenters glue

@wildjames 3 года назад

and you should've shutup

@bobbystanley8580 Год назад

No way I would hit the tread

@subhenduc 7 лет назад

We just had a local stair builder remodel our stairs and completely messed up all my materials. He used sure-tite most likely improperly to attache the newel posts on the 2nd floor balcony and with all the weight of the wrought iron panels it is shaking a lot and stamped unsafe by a structural engineer. Do I have to buy new posts and core mount it inside the sub-floor framing by dropping in?

@cup_and_cone 7 лет назад

sue em

@poeticthoughts06 6 лет назад

gotcha! lol

@joannastevens5228 3 года назад

Once that screw is in and later you want to remove the post, how do you remove the screw if it has been threaded and there is no grip?

@bgrady24 3 года назад

Why would you ever want to remove it?

@theamerican4609 Год назад

You drill it in reverse.

@san379 9 лет назад

I WOULD OF SQUIRTED SOME GLUE THE STAIR TREAD N NEWL POST

@jasonjackson2686 5 лет назад

temporary fix imo. Wood glue is great but I like to add it along with a screw personally.

@GrahamDIY 6 лет назад

Those long black still bits. Does anyone know what they are called? I’m in the UK and I’ve been trying to find them for years.

@tanman102 6 лет назад

"Extra Long Black Oxide Drill Bit" or "Aircraft Extension Drill bit" Its easy to find them here in the States at most hardware\supply stores. If you are having trouble finding them, check at an electrical\electrician supply company or on amazon.

@theralhaljordan7337 5 лет назад

drilling from the front into the side grain would have been much better, plus it would have pulled the post into the stair railing and maybe eliminating some the wobbling that was still left at the end of the video

@patrckm Год назад

Screwing into the end grain of that tread is going to fail...

@mttfrnkl85 6 лет назад

"Fixed the newl post"

@LongHuII 4 года назад

hmm, "I don't want to put a brand new post up, I'll just screw this phooker to the stairs"

@zell863 4 года назад

It would not change anything as obviously frame is cracked. New post would wobble to.

@abstractheory1 4 года назад

too

@ayeitsme6988 9 лет назад

i would have screwed the bottom of the post too for an even stronger fix.

@kurtkarasch8768 8 лет назад

+colin macdougall Exactly its acting like a hinge now. The bottom is going to come out over time.

@kingkelly9104 5 лет назад

Two good anchor points and it would wobble. I would go low too.

@theamerican4609 Год назад

@@kurtkarasch8768 Not with a structural screw

@seeemsee Год назад

I would have just bought a new house.

@kalijasin 4 года назад

It still wobbly though.

@harrypeters8306 6 лет назад

Why not screw into the stringer

@ammerconsulting 6 лет назад

The stringer is likely a softer wood, maybe poplar, but most likely pine. It does not have the holding power of the oak stair tread.

@VERSONECOMPLEKS 6 лет назад

Uses square to guide drill...still drills donward...

@theralhaljordan7337 5 лет назад

probably so that if it does come out of the foot board it comes out the bottom

@Hawgfrog 7 лет назад

Are these screws something you can find at lowes?

@GumbootZone 7 лет назад

If not that particular kind, then they (and most other hardware places) carry something similar called *GRK Structural Screws.* They are a sort of gold colour, come in different lengths, and also have a flat head. Although the gold ones also have a slight bump on the head where the torx screw driver goes in.

@rshangrila 5 лет назад

I bought some just like that at Agent Orange (HD)

@Engineer9736 7 лет назад

They are showing how to repair that ripped off cap, while there was totally no need to rip it off other than showing the inside for the camera.

@Michael-jm5ix 5 лет назад

how else will tom know where to drill if he didn't get an accurate idea of the inside?

@garyh4458 4 года назад

@@Michael-jm5ix He could have tapped on it to find out if it is hollow. Or he could have drilled a tiny hole near the bottom that would be filled with putty. Or, he could just rip the top off the post off.

@samsngdevice5103 4 года назад

Does anyone have a simple solution to loose posts? I see it all the time. This video explained a lot, I had thought that most posts were made with a hollow tube and a threaded vertical rod going into the subflooring with a tightening plate at the top and nut just under the cap. Wouldn't that be nice?simply pop off the cap, use a deep socket to tighten a nut and wallah.

@fredmccauley3719 5 лет назад

@eriklarson9137 6 лет назад

I have only seen about 3 videos with Tom in them. But in all three there were problems. Sad. Gimmie Bob Vila.

@seysey7849 4 года назад

Hm.

@nickv4073 2 года назад

My solution was easier. Hang a sign that says "Don't Pull On the Newel Post". Done.

@zell863 4 года назад

You need to open tread somehow and reinforce framing of stairs and than use lag bolt. Of course this do not work. It is second I see this guy hack, other is crown molding installation at kitchen.

@jockojohn3294 6 лет назад

Why would you have to repair a new post?

@customcarp2 7 лет назад

Most of this video was ok, but you should of used poplar plugs instead of that putty crap. In the future if you want to tighten or replace, simply crack the plug. Another screw should of been put into the front side of the post, in order to keep the post square and plumb.

@dalkhal 7 лет назад

flimsychicken3 😂

@kellerrobert80 6 лет назад

How would that work? Wouldn't the two screws intersect/interfere in the middle of the post?

@wildjames 3 года назад

in the future, you should probably shutup, thanks.

@32toddv 4 года назад

Why is it called a Newell post?

@themalacast Месяц назад

One time a man said "God I'm tired of this wobbly post. Time for a replacement." And his carpenter said, "Don't bother, new'll wobble too." Probably.

@KingParisBuckingham 5 лет назад

Bullshit,that's not strong enough,should squeeze 8n carpenters glue too

@garyh4458 4 года назад

Took cap off top for no reason at all.

@niceguy235uk1 4 года назад

Apart from the reason of explaining how some posts are constructed.

@theamerican4609 Год назад

He needed to see if it was a solid post which would dictate how he would proceed with the repair.

@dskize1 3 года назад

who knew you could use hair products in construction!

@rob3125 4 года назад

Screw it 😀

@VictorStoev4 4 года назад

"That will be $500"

@steveoo410 5 лет назад

Uses peanut butter to fill screw hole.

@jamespatrickwaldronwaldron5220 7 лет назад

Please watch

@Engineer9736 7 лет назад

jeremy waldron Watch what?

@SD-yb5fx 3 года назад

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@edwardmyers1746 6 лет назад

You think these guys would have better drills.

@mikez4132 6 лет назад

He using a very expensive Festool drill. Not my choice either but whatever...

@Gooselip 6 лет назад

They're actually using the most expensive drill you can buy... Look up Festool

@edwardmyers1746 6 лет назад

Chandler Funk they dont look exactly the best compared to other brands and dont sound the gruntiest either. Not my choice

@wildjames 3 года назад

@@edwardmyers1746 nobody cares what your choice is though, i'm confused

@adamaguayo6954 8 лет назад

oh come on you could do it yourself

@davec.3198 4 года назад

I'm a mechanical engineer. I clicked to see what a "newel" is. Pretty disappointed.

@Venom5260 4 года назад

you say engineer,I say dumbass with no common sense

@kenc2257 4 года назад

You're an adult who has never seen, or experienced, a stairway with railings, balusters, hand rails, or newel posts? Even a metal stairway has a structure that functions as a post/newel post.

@davec.3198 4 года назад

Oh you ladies are so nasty. Chill out. I've never worked on a railing so I never knew it was called a newel. Nor do I care.