For me, the ideas in ru-vid.comUgkxAfqpMLyFn37qcqUl0FAzqkkycQeXqrhP Plans were a starting point for building different sheds . Ryan gives ideas that allow an individual to draw nicest conclusions into the design and building of his or her own shed.
In most states the drip edge is supposed to be installed under the underlayment. In Florida the DE can be installed over or under the underlayment, but if it is installed on top of the underlayment a strip of asphalt roofing cement must be applied over the top of the DE and felt to prevent moisture from running down between the DE and felt. When ice barrier is used, it is installed first and wrapped down in front of the fascia, followed by the DE, then the felt is installed last.
For a low slope patio cover, (.5" per foot) what is the best method for adhering fiber reinforce rolled roofing to the drip edge. The mastic I used previously let loose after a number of years, causing rain water to wick back and then under the drip edge.
Hi thank you for all your instructional videos, they really hep a lot. Hey one quick question: Im building a 3/12 roof over my patio which will be screened in, and in my area in Georgia we only get snow about once a year, do you think Ice & water shield is necessary in my case?
Yes while you may not have ice buildup, water will still run down. All water wont touch the top of the roof but it will touch the bottom as it runs off.
Ice shield first. Unless you are in Florida. Metal fascia should always be installed first. Ice shield next 3" over fascia. Then drip edge. Install starter course at least 1/2" -3/4". Then shingles.
It does matter what direction your drip edge overlaps the street doesn't matter whatsoever it's all about the wind direction most places have a common wind direction
Great question James, I have seen conflicting info about whether Ice & Water goes under or over drip edge and both methods have their advantages. So..Would it be okay to do both? Perhaps run a thinner strip under drip edge to seal nail holes and then thicker strip to cover over? Or would that cause issues?
I just had my roof installed. My roofer laid down the ice shield, but did not lay it down the fascia. He stopped at the edge, like you did. Then , he did like you, where he installed the drip edge on TOP of the Grace ice shield. He did not run another layer of sealing tape on top of the drip edge. He just shingled over the top of it. Should I be worried about this?
Would you put the second shingle under the first shingle when putting your shingles on? no! the drip edge should always go under the underlayment, if not a leak in finish roofing from above will allow deck n facia saturation!
@@NSMConstruction 1. If you install the drip edge first (at eave) then when you put the ice and water shield down it will completely cover and seal the nail and holes completely. Why would you think sealing the nail holes only below the drip edge is better than sealing over the entire nail and hole? I have never roofed before and am gearing up to do my roof. Common sense says you always have the higher layer on top of the layer below it.
This installation is incorrect. The drip edge should be installed standing off the fascia. A gap of 3/8" should remain between fascia and the down drop of the metal flashing. Water will migrate behind the DE if you don't. Keeping the DE off the fascia, it will actually "drip" and not run down the fascia. Eventually, this fascia will require replacement. Believe me, I've replaced literally thousands of feet of fascia due to improper DE installation. Cutting a 3/8" plywood piece makes a perfect spacer, tacked to the fascia. Seems like very few of the pros even know the drip edge is supposed to actually cause drips.
I was noticing on my house that some of the drip edge has a comfortable gap, and other places do not. Its not rocket science, but not enough people understand the principle behind these things.
Thanks Jim - it seems like most DE installations are incorrect leading to water missing the gutter and running down the fascia. A gap to the fascia, so that the drip goes into a gutter, is the right way if you want the installation to last.
Is the plywood temporary for spacing or permanent? And I have PVC fascia and I'll never use gutters so do I care much about these details? Yes I'll put the drip edge under my roof paper, obviously.
@@NSMConstruction Some guys think it's better to place the dripedge under the Ice&Water shield in the case there's a roof leak from above to allow water to run off. It makes sense but it's not the purpose of dripedge. At that point your roof has failed.
@@jimmckeand4610 Not gonna happen. Use peal and stick underlayment. After a couple weeks in the sun, it becomes impossible to tear off. You'd have to remove the sheathing to get it off. Besides. The gable side it the most vulnerable. Not the drip edge. And Florida wind code is soo strong, it'll take a tornado or slow moving cat3 or better hurricane to do damage beyond losing a few shingles. Which isn't an issue if you use peal and stick underlayment instead of shitty tar paper.
Florida code does it this way and i think it is the best way especially if you are using a self adhering roll starter that will seal off the top anyway.
I dont think u reply to comments, but when you said "uhhmm" 538 times, was that a joke like the meow thing on super troopers? Or is that completely unintentional?
If he was doing this for a real house the fascia board would rot out in just a few years. He needs to use a wider drip edge and put a gap behind it so the water drips off and not run down the fascia board. I won't hire him.
