PDP Concept Limited Edition Snare Drum 13x7, II actually uses this drum as his backup snare. i caught it in his drum case on a IG post so i picked one up threw the same heads on and used this video to help me tune it up and i got that tone that instantly
@@tylerolinde its a amazing drum, um i'm sitting at about 418hz on the reso and i matched the 267 on the top. the biggest thing is making the head changes the remo p77 and ambassador hazy ( reso ) are magic together
I’ve been drumming my entire life and you just thought me how to accurately tune my drums. I’ve never found a video like this. Good job man you nailed it.
That’s amazing! Thank you so much. This is just one way of tuning and for a specific niche tone, but I’m glad you were able to learn more about it through this. More to come!
@@EliGreenDrums Coming back to watch this video again and I have to say the quality of video, video edit, sound and mixing are outstanding man. And you can shred on the drums. I can tell by mic placement on the kit that you're knowledge on these matters are high. I can't believe you only have 2k followers. Also side note, you should totally Sell the drum samples you create in these videos. Even if you put it on patreon or something would be great.
There will definitely be more! Working on one as we speak! I’ll most likely be uploading them to my Patreon first and then doing cut down versions for RU-vid. So if you like them, feel free to check out the Patreon!
I'm not even a drummer (guitarist, vocalist), but I've been a big fan of Sleep Token for 4-5 years and love their sound. I always have to program my drums when doing recordings for my solo stuff. I wonder how easy it would be to reproduce a similar sound to ii for someone purely doing production and programming drums. My current go-to for drum sounds is the GGD P IV Matt Halpern pack.
I think you’d get closer with some of the OKW Benny Greb sounds. II’s kit sound (especially the cymbals and snare) is far more like a fusion drummer, so I’d start with something less geared to metal and then supplement the bits that don’t work with pieces from the other libraries
Thanks for the content. I use a pearl free floating snare 14x6.5 set snare lug 400hz and top lug 267hz and still need the top lug to be higher to get to C#. Now my snare is broken hahaha.
very very good job reproducing II's drum sound. The last thing your missing is some dirty compression. It will bring up the room ambience and add the tail you're looking for.
Completely agree. This first video was a bit of an experiment of the format just mixed on the fly inside my Soundcraft Ui interface/mixer. If I did it again I’d definitely approach the mix with more sauce
Wow. That drum was one of the first quality snares I bought. I’ve turned it to 267 on the lug frequency but never to a 267 hz fundamental. Guess what I’m doing tomorrow. Did you leave the original snares on it? I think they’re just the Puresound Blaster’s.
@@EliGreenDrums I wish I could let you hear it. It sounds so good with the p77 head I will deff be using it from here on out it’s crazy how sleep token made it so popular!!
Not quite. 416 on the bottom but 267 *fundamental*. Meaning the whole drum is creating a resonant frequency of 267hz. The lug pitch of the batter side was way higher. Like 400hz ish
You said 395 as far as the low pitch is concerned. What do you mean by that? I have a tune bot and stopped using it because it would jump from 200 something hertz to 300 something, similarly to what you explained. Is that what you were experiencing too? Is there a way to prevent that with the tunebot?
I believe I said “lug pitch”. Meaning that is the pitch I have tuned each tension rod to. Check out my Tunebot video! It goes over some great tips to help with that exact issue
@EliGreenDrums would you consider it not possible to get close to the tuning in this video using a 14" drum and a tune bit gig? That's all I have currently and would like to try to achieve a similar sound. You mentioned keeping the 14" bottom at around 400 for this tune? Thanks for your insight and a great video, new subscriber here!
The bottom ended up being a little higher. More like 420. You can take the bottom up that high on a 14” no worries. I had the reso on the Paramore video beyond 450. The batter however, yikes. I don’t think you’ll get it to that same tension or if you do the drum will probably be pretty choked out.
So if I tune to my snare to the notes rather than the frequencies will the outcome be similar? Obviously it won’t be exact because I’m not narrowing it down to hertz but I don’t have a frequency reader unfortunately. Also a 13x7 player here! I use the Joey jordison signature snare so I’m interested to hear the sound come from a metal snare rather than the maple.
When I was looking for a drum to do this video with I actually entertained the idea of a Joey Sig. I’d love to know how yours goes! You absolutely can just tune straight to the note if you don’t have a frequency tuner. Let me know how you go!
It did until I punished it for a couple of long practice sessions and then the collar blew out. However that’s been a huge issue across ALL of Remo’s heads lately. I’ve had it happen to low tuned emperors on toms, medium tuned controlled sounds and now a cranked P77. So I don’t think it was the head/tuning range. Just another case of bad quality control.
Thank you! It’s the tunebot original model. I’d recommend the Tunebot Studio if you’re keen on getting one. The cheaper “gig” version is a little janky on the measurements. The studio is rock solid though
Sick! Curious on what the cymbal mics are sounds killer even barring any mixing?? Also curious spotted a rogue shure sm7b under the ride point over at the snare curious the reasoning and function on that??
Cymbal mics are Rode NT5’s. The SM7B is like a “close-ambient” mic. It acts as a mic that picks up the smack of the kick and toms but also a lot of the shell tone of the snare. Great mic to compress hard like a room mic and blend up underneath for some extra shell mojo
@@EliGreenDrums that’s what I was huntchin on! I’m defintley gonna try my shure sm7b on that area! been experimenting with extra room mics trying to find ways to excentuate more shell ooomph then crispy cymbal typical room mics! Nt5’s eh! Not bad at never thought to snag those!
Think of it like a mic that picks up mostly the shells in a very close but not totally direct manner. It gets a lot of punch, awesome to compress super hard and get some very trashy sounds. Almost like you would with a mono room mic but far closer and with less cymbals. Just a fun vibey mic. It doesn’t always get turned up.
@@CometZ that's a shame! This is a pretty extreme tuning to be fair. Perhaps the bottom head could be loosened off a little to allow the drum to breathe more. Sometimes it's a matter of compromise to get the tone you want! Unfortunately not all drums of the same size handle the same tunings!
@@EliGreenDrums thanks! Love your work btw - as someone who doesn't really play drums but works as a recording engineer for drummers your recipes are incredibly helpful
Zero! I record most of my social media stuff through my soundcraft Ui24R which has an inbuilt mixer, and then I just capture the master output into OBS to sync with the videos in real time, so no editing happens after the fact. I did record some samples of this snare just the other day - they’re available on my Patreon if that interests you!
I have samples available on my Patreon! 4 different dynamics of One Shots, with and without reverb. Grab a subscription (only $5USD) and they’re yours as well as everything else that’s on there!
It’s definitely a niche sound. But it’s also exactly what he uses, which was the purpose of the video. Check out my recent vid on the George Lever P77 mod - that was super cool and breathes a lot of life into the choked out sound of some P77 tunings.
You’re correct, however that’s a more recent change and I based my reference point on the last few years of their meteoric rise. Most of that time he was using the PA or similar.
Said no one ever. No one gives a fuck about a sleep token nor know who tf they are. Just like in 5 years no one will then either. Nothing iconic unless you're 20 with tattoos. Then everything new is AMAZINNNNNNGGGGGG.
Literally the most unlistenable sounds of all time with a little clip sound for the snare, all so teenagers can feel cool while they are told their glitched out sounds are "music". If you listen to this garbage then you don't have a dad.
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