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HUGE BANS CHANGE LEGACY! All Stickers and Attractions Banned (Legacy Name Sticker Goblin Ban- MTG) 

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I discuss the recent Magic: the Gathering Online bans of all cards featuring stickers and attractions, mechanics from the Unfinity set. Name Sticker Goblin had certainly changed Legacy, and due to unusual tournament tension and differences between Magic Online and paper Magic, every card that generated stickers or opened Attractions has been banned, effective immediately. How will the metagame change? What decks will rise to the top? Here are my early theories !
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0:00 Intro
1:04 Article Discussion
8:35 Goblins
12:40 Current Meta
15:32 Changing Cards
21:45 New Meta
32:30 Conclusion
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@thesvengallideck
@thesvengallideck 14 дней назад
I wonder how long before we see "Seething Goblin"
@felipedizdiz
@felipedizdiz 13 дней назад
Maybe in MH3
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 13 дней назад
They've known they were going to axe Ming Goblin for a few months, so it'll be in some commander product in the next 18-24 months.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
That's not actually true. They had been working on a tournament rules fix for the cards and arrived at this conclusion. I don't think this was known months in advance.
@MegaMechaBasilix442
@MegaMechaBasilix442 12 дней назад
Hopefully soon, I'm gonna miss gob stompy...
@MH-dn3jz
@MH-dn3jz 14 дней назад
Fwiw I'm super glad you aren't a news channel but that said major B&R reactions are super helpful.
@MH-dn3jz
@MH-dn3jz 14 дней назад
Also? I SUPER appreciate how much you aren't leaning into hyperbole. Look I love a bunch of creators but I get tired of some of them posting a 10 minute rant video why name sticker goblin is shit or how terrible and cynical mh3 is. You avoid all that bullshit and I appreciate it.
@JushakF
@JushakF 14 дней назад
@@MH-dn3jz Yeah, I've just told RU-vid to not recommend certain channels because literally every time I saw a video from them, it was nothing but negativity or general doom & gloom.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
I want my content to be real and genuine.
@m00nf0lk2
@m00nf0lk2 12 дней назад
agreed, this was a great watch
@miterbinnesdirty
@miterbinnesdirty 15 дней назад
I feel like losing the this right before MH3 might end up being comparable to Twin getting banned right before the Eldrazi winter. As a lands player, I'm a little happier that there are less blood mooners. I like the content format too. Getting an in depth video on bans and speculating the future opens a lot of topics that others may not have thought about before.
@CheeseWedge056
@CheeseWedge056 15 дней назад
Should mind goblin ever have been legal? No Is banning it going to cause problems? Absolutely. One thing Im worried about is initiative coming back to fill the goblin stompy shoes again, where rescaminator reanimating their opponents stuff is strong, whilst reanimating a muxus is kind of bad. The timing on the ban is also awkward because I think that we will barely stabilize by the time MH3 shakes the foundations.
@elou3853
@elou3853 14 дней назад
rescaminator is really strong against initiative, reanimating an initiative creature on turn 1 is, who would have guessed, very powerful
@ClubbingSealCub
@ClubbingSealCub 14 дней назад
Don't worry mental goblin in mh3 will fill the niche
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 14 дней назад
@@ClubbingSealCub tbh they really should print the version from MTGO in a real set
@ClubbingSealCub
@ClubbingSealCub 14 дней назад
@@kaiseremotion854 nah fuck dice rolls
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 14 дней назад
@@ClubbingSealCub dice rolls are fine lol
@Lexen_Rapier
@Lexen_Rapier 14 дней назад
I like your news content too. If you wanted to occasionally make two videos a day so you can fit the news in, I'd watch both
@Josh-bn4ki
@Josh-bn4ki 14 дней назад
As someone who hasn't played legacy, the banning feels a lot like the shaharazad ban. Just too annoying to play with.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 13 дней назад
Yes, it was a stupid mechanic that shouldn't have been legal. Unsets should all be silver border.
@bjornlohmander7431
@bjornlohmander7431 13 дней назад
Stickers were a horrible experience in paper, absolutely horrible. Happy they are gone! I also hope this ban is going to be a lesson for how future “fun experiments” can impact eternal formats.
@Pighway
@Pighway 14 дней назад
Damn no stickers got me thinking about all the people that left me
@matthunter9380
@matthunter9380 13 дней назад
Big fan of the announcement. I was never a fan of the unfinity set being legal for competitive play
@mrsnufflegums
@mrsnufflegums 14 дней назад
Notably, while stickers and attractions are gone, I do think that there's something with doing sets with similar flavor to unfinity in black border (namely, goofy flavor or mechanics that work in the ruleset but don't quite work with the flavor. Think Comet, Starlight Spectacular, Magar of the magic strings, captain rex nebula, so on and so forth)
@CoilingSliver
@CoilingSliver 14 дней назад
I think something like this would be great as a micro set on a bonus sheet.
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 14 дней назад
I think they should make some of the old unsets legal specifically cards like goblin bookie and the cheese stands alone
@andrewwang7699
@andrewwang7699 14 дней назад
What does making Cheese legal provide over just telling people to play Barren Glory instead
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 14 дней назад
@@andrewwang7699 cheese is better than barren glory by alot actually lol
@andrewwang7699
@andrewwang7699 11 дней назад
@@kaiseremotion854 i mean yes, but they both exist to do the same thing. in fact, think MaRo(?) or someone said that Barren Glory was made to be a black-border Cheese
@Jakerunio
@Jakerunio 14 дней назад
Upset about the ban as a goblin enjoyer, big fan of the video format. Keep it up.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 13 дней назад
Seething Goblin will return in the future.
@Dhips.
@Dhips. 7 дней назад
Late too the party, but as a Goblin fan this made me sad. Being objective about it, it had to be done.
@newbornskyfire
@newbornskyfire 14 дней назад
Thank you for the shoutout my friend ❤ The moon stompy list i posted is in the work in progress / testing phase as I didn't get a chance to play the OTJ dragon much. I'm sure the iterations will change as I prepare for some of the big events coming up in Europe. 😊
@VivBrodock
@VivBrodock 14 дней назад
No now i cant show up to my LGS with my sticker and attraction deck and annoy everyone!
@Alikaoz
@Alikaoz 14 дней назад
Technically, you can still present the decks pre-game.
@goblinry
@goblinry 14 дней назад
​@@Alikaoz Good point, also I would like to add that if you put your mind to it you will come up with new ways to annoy people. I believe in you
@jtyree0226
@jtyree0226 13 дней назад
@@Alikaoztechnically you can’t
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Nice slow play warning you've got there.
@dingdongs5208
@dingdongs5208 14 дней назад
Last voyage of the ____ is really good in CEDH and regional highlander formats as another way to combo with Abdel Adrian or Worldgorger
@BlackHawkXx9
@BlackHawkXx9 14 дней назад
Love these informational breakdown videos. Keep them coming. As many as you would like to create, I'll watch.
@thesvengallideck
@thesvengallideck 13 дней назад
I enjoy getting your context on the bans. I like your thought process. As someone who enjoys legacy but doesn't play it I would love to see more of this style of video
@JushakF
@JushakF 14 дней назад
As purely a viewer of Legacy content rather than a player, Sticker Goblin, Orcish Bowmasters and Grief are cards I'm really starting to get tired of seeing. It has nothing to do with balance or anything and I fully recognize it will likely be quickly replaced by another set of cards soon enough after (possible) bans. Personally I don't really mind seeing less Goblins for similar reason... Although I actually feel that the random nature of Sticker goblin was a not-insignificant reason I didn't like seeing it.
@VADBV
@VADBV 13 дней назад
Hard to believe Grief will not be banned before the year ends
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 13 дней назад
Bowmasters is annoying, but the metagame has mostly adapted to it. I'd like to see it go if it allows the GSZ and D&T archetypes return. Grief makes non-games of Magic, which is why WOTC is probably going to get rid of it in legacy and modern. Grief is once again the most played deck in modern, as well.
@GollyGoshSensation
@GollyGoshSensation 12 дней назад
By that logic, Brainstorm, Ponder, Daze and Force of Will should go to. They are fine, it's okay to have good new cards.
@VADBV
@VADBV 12 дней назад
@@GollyGoshSensation if FoW could be “reanimated” from graveyard with 1 mana it would be banned too. Also, FoW is not a wincon but Grief is
@chriswright2568
@chriswright2568 13 дней назад
Great job, Phil. This was a high-value review, hit a lot of key points, and avoided undue speculation.
@__Tana__
@__Tana__ 13 дней назад
Thank you for learning us, Phil!
@natejablonski
@natejablonski 14 дней назад
Battle Cry Goblin was from Adventures in the Forgotten Realms, the D&D set that was legal in Standard and also notably gave us Den of the Bugbear.
@MrAtog
@MrAtog 14 дней назад
I again comment because i could listen to this all the time. I think dismember also cleanly answers troll and fury gets reanimated, which is another point on the cases you opened on them
@felipedizdiz
@felipedizdiz 13 дней назад
Very interesting analysis. I never thought of how name sticker Goblin made other aggro decks much worse due to being faster than them and even on how this very agressive build could affect even control decks. Even with this being said, it is strange this happening before MH3 since the edition is shaking up legacy. Very interesting video. Congratulations!
@dave-kt7sj
@dave-kt7sj 14 дней назад
Love this content. It's why I listen to the Eternal Glory podcast. Please continue shorts on new high power cards, and any B&R for legacy shakeup.
@akphoffman
@akphoffman 14 дней назад
I think there is design space for a MTG card that "cycles" or is just discarded with a rider effect that counters an effect that would allow the opponent to look at your hand. Don't know how this would be structured or worded. But could hem in turbo hand disruption a bit.
@Andre-fm1zy
@Andre-fm1zy 14 дней назад
if mind twist is banned because its unfun and not because its too strong. Then grief should be banned too because its unfun
@morgoth2425
@morgoth2425 14 дней назад
mind twist doesnt need be banned
@PytorDukiv
@PytorDukiv 14 дней назад
B&R should just be done by polling people what they find fun and then banning the cards that disrupt that. This is a fantastic way to run a format.
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 13 дней назад
Mind Twist is a slightly better Mind Rot. It's not even close to as good as Grief.
@Andre-fm1zy
@Andre-fm1zy 13 дней назад
@@JohnFromAccounting Twist is banned because its not fun. the same reason grief will be banned
@morgoth2425
@morgoth2425 12 дней назад
@@Andre-fm1zy look at hymn to tourach and look back at mind twist. mind twist does not need to be banned
@CoilingSliver
@CoilingSliver 14 дней назад
Rip The most dangerous gamer, I still like u as my commander in EDH .😢
@thomaskunz8553
@thomaskunz8553 14 дней назад
If the banning is resonant enough like this one to need additional context I appreciate the full video. If its like "This thing was singularly broken and was only played seriously in one top deck/list" then it can just be a reel but id appreciate something either way.
@derekcline950
@derekcline950 14 дней назад
It's sort of dumb that they're still legal in commander. Like, a bad idea is a bad idea. Just because it is more casual doesn't mean it isn't a negative
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
That ban list is handled by a different group. We'll see if/how they address this in a few months.
@usagi2988
@usagi2988 14 дней назад
Love these analysis videos!
@cquave11
@cquave11 14 дней назад
If all you do, news wise, is Ban update, and Spoiler updates, that would be awesome! Id love to hear your insights on MH3 spoilers
@StevieSparkZ
@StevieSparkZ 14 дней назад
Great video, Phil. But at 17:25, we should never be ashamed of any legacy deck! I still have my Sneak&Show and sliver deck for legacy!
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 12 дней назад
I was kinda surprised that "Name Sticker" Goblin was banned on MTGO, maybe for clarity, but the card is much less obnoxious than the paper version I thought this was just something wrecking paper formats because you had to bring so much more clutter with you even if you didn't play with unfinity cards, stuff that isn't even in your deck, just in case something crazy happens, or even just to bluff. You know, if they printed something that is "Name Sticker" Goblin but with cleaned up text in paper and on magic online, that'd be a pretty neat idea.
@PirlKnighte
@PirlKnighte 14 дней назад
Loved the idea of a metagame projection after a major banning like this. It's kind of wild that Scam has 15% of the meta and that's just considered okay.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
15% of the meta to a top deck isn't abnormal for Legacy. Various Delver flavors (especially if you lump them together as a single archetype) often get to that percentage. It's fine to have a best and most popular deck; it's a problem when that deck's win percentage is nuts.
@nayuta_23
@nayuta_23 13 дней назад
WoTC should implement a rule where some cards' legality is restricted to commander in the first time (especially cards designed for multiplayer/fun)
@BigChimpEnergy
@BigChimpEnergy 6 дней назад
I came back to MTG for the first time in almost a decade JUST before this ban and started to play Legacy with some friends over Tabletop Simulator. When I saw "Name Sticker" Goblin my first reaction was "what the fuck is this nonsense?". As soon as I saw it I thought of Storm, but apparently just killing your opponent with a wall of hasted goblins is better, who would have guessed? Lol
@LemorasCards
@LemorasCards 11 дней назад
My first thought when I saw this ban was, "I wonder what Phil thinks."
@JamesKisau
@JamesKisau 13 дней назад
This is a good news channel too
@goblinry
@goblinry 14 дней назад
First of all this did not come across as a news video to me. Having said that I really enjoyed this video format, I liked the mh3 spoilers video as well. I seems like you are only going to make a video like this if you have something to say about it. A lot of people hate on click bate style thumbnails but I feel like we live in the time where everyone has to steal a loaf of bread to feed their family, anyway sticker goblin will still be fun in cube.
@MrBurrito
@MrBurrito 13 дней назад
RIP Lifetime Pass Holder.
@mozzikum
@mozzikum 14 дней назад
Wizards banning Sticker Goblin to unite online and paper legacy, but keeping the restricted list
@samuelapp
@samuelapp 14 дней назад
i think we need to create a global petition to end Reserved List. This is just trash. there is literally no one single player that approves the reserved list. If you will not end it, at list make every single tournament allow proxies.
@data_abort
@data_abort 13 дней назад
​​@@samuelappmaybe cedh sweaties that get mad if nooobs have a decent mana base without paying the toll.
@domotoro3552
@domotoro3552 13 дней назад
liked this vid a lot
@MIKAEL212345
@MIKAEL212345 13 дней назад
34:53 How would you feel about periodic bans for cards that aren't oppressive solely for the purpose of shaking up the meta game? It seems like a lot of people like it when the format changes, but obviously hate when that change hits the deck they play
@nicholasiverson9784
@nicholasiverson9784 14 дней назад
Ah darn I was hoping to play with some of those cards on arena. They'd probably be legal in timeless, them being banned cuts the chances of them getting added ever.
@joel.herrick
@joel.herrick 14 дней назад
My problem with this is the MTR already addressed what to do if you need to put a sticker on something but dont have the sheets. So the metamorph problem doesn't exist. This seems to be a lifeline thrown to mtgo since they were probably not going to implement attractions.
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 14 дней назад
Yeah they covered it in the MTR, but it wasn't fun and was logistically awkward. Just like how the rules for play subgames are covered in the rules, yet nobody wants to deal with that so Shazerade is banned.
@maxtaus2885
@maxtaus2885 14 дней назад
I just built my first legacy deck a month ago and it was goblins. I feel like I wasted my money now that mind goblin is banned. Don’t know if I’ll ever build another legacy deck again
@LakeVermilionDreams
@LakeVermilionDreams 14 дней назад
Goblins was a legacy deck for decades before Mind Goblin. You can adapt and still play legacy.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 14 дней назад
The pieces you acquired will still be usable in a strong Legacy deck. I wouldn't sweat that too much.
@Amphidsf
@Amphidsf 14 дней назад
@@LakeVermilionDreams Deck before the Stickers, will be a deck long after. I wonder if Snoop gonna comeback around those were fun decks.
@CPMax205
@CPMax205 14 дней назад
Vial Goblins is still viable!
@Lykrast
@Lykrast 14 дней назад
Damn sucks that we'll probably never get attractions or stickers properly in mtgo, but like I get the logistical issue. Shame that they overshot the goblin :( But hey at least I can still jam attractions in commander, that's cool.
@Eldritch_Panda31
@Eldritch_Panda31 13 дней назад
I wish they would just release name sticker goblin as an actual card instead. I actually enjoyed seeing a fast aggro deck in legacy
@stevenutbean2207
@stevenutbean2207 13 дней назад
So your thoughts on flare of cultivation and veteran explorer ....... seems like fair and balanced magic
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
I don't even know if it will be good.
@shapooopiefour7173
@shapooopiefour7173 14 дней назад
How much do we think that they’ll reprint the MTGO “Name Sticker” Goblin into paper in a DND set?
@TheRealActualPaincake
@TheRealActualPaincake 14 дней назад
Hell yeaaa, I can't believe Manaless Dredge and Dragonstorm are finally back!! (i highly doubt that)
@jeremy3681
@jeremy3681 13 дней назад
Why didn't they retroactively make all Unfinity cards Silver-borded? It just makes more sense.
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 14 дней назад
News is good. The content of the news feels like a Reanimate buff
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
You aren't wrong.
@gabrote42
@gabrote42 13 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity Keep it up, and have much fun!
@MinstrelSauce
@MinstrelSauce 14 дней назад
I spent a couple G to build attractions. Damnit
@Blacksunstoneful
@Blacksunstoneful 12 дней назад
and what will WOTC do about blue xerox shells making up like 34-50% of the meta since 2011? I think it's silly they always ban hammer out any green, black, white and red deck that approaches anywhere near 10% of a meta share for being "unfun" but will never touch these daze/wasteland/brainstorm shells that make people cringe when it's just another delver matchup People don't even play B/R or B/G reanimator anymore because it's just easier to slot grief and animate dead into some xerox shell, and yet that is never the problem.
@christianthurow
@christianthurow 14 дней назад
I don't think that the departure of the name sticker Goblin will kill the entire Goblin Decktype. I think the deck is still viable, the question is, how will the deck be build instead?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Turbo Muxus is dead, but traditional goblins (Vial or no Vial) will live on.
@anarcho-yorpism
@anarcho-yorpism 14 дней назад
I'll just miss my weird 20-reckless-impulse ruby storm deck
@samuelem.7679
@samuelem.7679 14 дней назад
The day before yesterday I've ordered a pauper deck around All That Glitters. Now shipping. Perfect. Luckily, friends are equally ok about playing legacy.
@quatzecoatl1795
@quatzecoatl1795 14 дней назад
Oof, the timing sucks. But probably could've seen that one coming, All That Glitters was nuts haha
@samuelem.7679
@samuelem.7679 14 дней назад
@@quatzecoatl1795 Yeah, but being a beginner I just looked for a strong deck that I like, Card Market guys and the italian Andrea Mengucci being good, instructional sources. Well, I see ways of kinda substitute All That Glitters, maybe not as strong/fast: Cranial Plating and Nettlecyst. Other suggestion, if I may bore you? Grazie anticipatamente, thanks in advance!
@quatzecoatl1795
@quatzecoatl1795 13 дней назад
@@samuelem.7679 I don't really follow pauper so no good advice from me, sorry friend!
@Silchain
@Silchain 13 дней назад
Batle cry goblin - adventures in the forgotten set
@ScrotusCobra
@ScrotusCobra 14 дней назад
Could we not just get a functional reprint without the sticker part? That's my prediction/ 0.02
@joshua_lee732
@joshua_lee732 14 дней назад
As a belcher player who used stickers to fake out opponents. I SUPPORT THESE CHANGES
@brinkbleash
@brinkbleash 14 дней назад
Good.
@RumpledNutskin
@RumpledNutskin 14 дней назад
Glad to see you go, Mind Goblin. You're next, Grief...
@10rodri
@10rodri 14 дней назад
Will doctor who cards ever be on mtgo ?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
I hope so.
@orsettomorbido
@orsettomorbido 4 дня назад
I'm so glad those pesky silver bordered cards got axed!
@datsundreams
@datsundreams 14 дней назад
Good might actually consider coming back lmao.
@christianthurow
@christianthurow 14 дней назад
I welcome this change for paper magic's sake!
@guyoncouch8796
@guyoncouch8796 14 дней назад
Please WotC print a Seething Goblin (or just call it Mind Goblin), it was genuinely good for the format and the MTGO is actually slightly weaker than the paper version on average (by like 1%), so it's still a nerf.
@jbs6614
@jbs6614 14 дней назад
interesting how they KO’d Unfinity and Affinity esp in Pauper
@isaacconner8622
@isaacconner8622 14 дней назад
I really want grief to go. It’s just not fun to play against IMO
@toolcheat
@toolcheat 14 дней назад
Aside of meta game changes it may occur, this sound a very reasonable decision, UN-sets always should stay out of tournament play, it makes no sense that some cards of the sets are allowed while others no. The only reason I see here is to sell more boosters of these sets, again a decision to favore corporation gains against the game health (something that unfortunately we are seeing a lot recently tbh).
@alecwoodard9464
@alecwoodard9464 14 дней назад
I know I’m in the minority here, but I don’t actually mind having some Un-stuff legal in eternal Magic. Pair’o’Dice Lost, Saw In Half, and a couple of other cards are interesting additions in my opinion, and I’d rather see at least some of the cardboard get some actual use. How many times have we seen that meme of the guy holding his full art lands with the Un-Set product stuffed in a trash bin at the back of the shot? Having 90+% of the product be a complete waste of cardboard is super wasteful. Side decks and similar outside of game mechanics obviously have no place in eternal Magic, but cards like those or the non-Attraction dice stuff they printed are a great way for them to get wacky designs into the ecosystem without having to make a whole joke Standard plane for them.
@pegab21
@pegab21 14 дней назад
Farewell, Name Sticker Goblin
@SporePunch
@SporePunch 13 дней назад
Phil what do you think about a paper version of MTGO's Name Sticker Goblin? Make a paper goblin that has the die roll effect and call it something different. Do you think that would be good for the format?
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
I think cards in this design space are fine. The goblin was not banned for power level reasons after all.
@SporePunch
@SporePunch 13 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity Yeah I think Name Sticker was a creative solution to the problem of stickers not being in MTGO and I hope Wizards takes a cue from that in a future set so we can see that functionality back in Legacy. Because the problem was the logistics of stickers, not the card being way too good.
@Docholphalful
@Docholphalful 13 дней назад
"We didn't think a 2/2 seething song that could be fetched with matron and synergized with Muxxus and goblin warchief would be good. Whoopsie doopsie, that was a bad miss."
@JohnFromAccounting
@JohnFromAccounting 13 дней назад
It had nothing to do with the Seething Song part of the card, and was entirely due to stickers being a nonsense mechanic to be legal in competitive constructed.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Note: not banned for power level.
@Docholphalful
@Docholphalful 13 дней назад
Sure it wasn't due to power level, but the original idea was to make them unplayable to the point that people wouldn't have to worry about them. This was a ridiculous idea in the first place, but when one of the cards was ACTUALLY OBVIOUSLY GOOD and became a card you had to expect to see at least once in a tournament, everyone had to interact with these ridiculous mechanics, whether they wanted to or not.
@chaselewis5372
@chaselewis5372 15 дней назад
Sucks the last 2 bannings have just been taking a T1.5 aggro decks and murdering them. Not going to be a conspiracy theorist, but man it sucks every time they need to do a ban it's just taking out non-T0 metagame shakers while leaving the problem cards with 40-60% metagame share untouched. Hope they reprint "Name Sticker" goblin in another manner without the sticker mechanic, in a commander product. They murdered elves out of the format, would like to have some other fast creature based strategy that isn't FoW based. I know some people didn't like it because the deck felt like it was gambling a lot but that's in general true with basically all stompy decks. Dump your hand with threats earlier than they should be hopefully your opponent dies, your opponent is locked out of the game, or the card you put down builds back it's advantage so you can do it again. MH3 seems to be having some interesting aggro cards that also generate value so it seems Wizards might be taking the idea to heart. Goblins seems like a happy accident, and hope Wizards pushes for aggro to be a bigger part of the eternal metagames since it clearly can exist if they are willing to give it the support.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 14 дней назад
They could have easily just erratad it to work like MTGO without needing a reprint, unless they plan on printing the MTGO version in Horizons 3 with a diff name.
@jacobpearlman7451
@jacobpearlman7451 14 дней назад
Well. This is akward.
@radradder
@radradder 13 дней назад
Hopefully they ban Reanimate instead of Grief
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
I very much doubt that would happen. Reanimate has been a safe and acceptable power level card in the format for AGES.
@bgdragon99
@bgdragon99 14 дней назад
Everybody knew stickers and attractions were dumb from the jump.
@iclimbeverything2990
@iclimbeverything2990 13 дней назад
Was going to happen sooner or later lol. Unfinity is one of the worst sets ever. Not even funny commanders. Literally just comet stellar pup, basics, and duals. Everything else was complete garbage in that entire set.
@TheSillySils
@TheSillySils 14 дней назад
They knew exactly what they were doing. They did this to sell a dud product. Players were saying this shouldn't be in the format before the set even dropped. This is nothing more than a corporate bait n switch.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
While they certainly were trying to make the set appeal to a wider audience, I wouldn't say that this was actively malicious. We did get some really well designed constructed cards like Comet and Pair o Dice Lost from it.
@TheSillySils
@TheSillySils 12 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity almost everything American corporations do is malicious. Nothing wrong with making money, its when you sell things to then invalidate them later aka deceptive busiiness, bait and switch. This mistake could be seen by the most common of people, and if these diseases at the top couldnt, they belong in the unemployment line. Which they never get because in America you fail upwards. if I could Id personally put Cynthia Williams in a forced labor Gulag.
@alphonse2234
@alphonse2234 14 дней назад
More like one card got banned.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Effectively, yes.
@jormungardwe
@jormungardwe 14 дней назад
It was not necessary to ban Attractions
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Attractions, while not really competitively viable, existed in the same space as these cards. I think keeping consistent policy is a good idea.
@D0012D13
@D0012D13 14 дней назад
Every legacy and vintage ban triggers me because commander banlist hasn't been touched for almost 3 years. Even with the new leyline there is no way coalition victory is more banworthy than thassas oracle
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 14 дней назад
That's an entirely different format and philosophy. CV is banned because it reads like a cool casual build around, but just anticlimactically ends the game. It would get played at casual tables where "win the game" cards wouldn't be welcome. Meanwhile, Thoracle is unbanned because people know it's a tryhard card and only include it in decks that want to combo off. Commander bans are often not just about power level, but about whether casual players can self-regulate cards out of the format.
@D0012D13
@D0012D13 13 дней назад
@simonteesdale9752 winning with coalition victory is way more climatic than thassas, what are you even talking about.
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 13 дней назад
@@D0012D13 You're mostly correct, but that's not what I'm trying to get at. Instant win cards aren't welcome in casual games, and commander bans to protect casual games. That's why CV is banned. People would throw it into casual 5c decks, thinking it looks fun, play it and... The game ends out of nowhere, same as Thoracle does in more competitive games. Meanwhile, people generally aren't throwing Thoracle into casual decks because it looks fun, so it avoids a ban.
@D0012D13
@D0012D13 13 дней назад
@simonteesdale9752 the point of any banning/restriction of any card game is for the competitive meta, not casuals that usually have their own ban list. If you aren't Kinnan bs good luck playing in any slightly competitive tourny without thoracle/breach or some other cheese. Also cards were once banned for being expensive when they were relatively cheaper than cradle/led/mox diamond/tabernacle are now. Would you really say the current banlist is perfect and not worth changing at all since Sept 2021 when they figured fricken golos was too good?
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 13 дней назад
@@D0012D13 I wouldn't say that the banlist is perfect, just that it's got different priorities to the banlists for tournament formats. (Modern, Legacy, Standard...) Commander has never been intended to be balanced for competitive play, as you'd end up with a 100 card banlist, as well as banning several of people's favourite cards, in the interests of competitive balance. Disagree with it as much as you like, but that's their criteria, and the massive popularity of command means that they must be doing something right.
@thomasfournier3738
@thomasfournier3738 14 дней назад
While i understand the issues with stickers i am extremly bummed out by the removal of attractions. They were super cool.
@lane9668
@lane9668 14 дней назад
I really do hope there's more swords to plowshares + wasteland decks. 10 islands, 8 fetches, 0 creatures, I hope they're happy with 8 dead cards :)
@T.I.M.Thirteen
@T.I.M.Thirteen 14 дней назад
Where are my Fallout cards, MTGO? 😢
@Ox5f3759df
@Ox5f3759df 13 дней назад
pretty similar to the top ban. shame though. I liked seeing goblins out and about
@Jeff-gc2sb
@Jeff-gc2sb 14 дней назад
I really want a namesticker goblin tattoo.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 14 дней назад
WOTC could have easily Erratad Mind Goblin to be how it is on MTGO and it would have been fine and not warped the format so much.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
And then done the same thing for every other sticker or attraction card? I think clean policy decisions matter.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 13 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity they could do it for all the ones already erratad for mtgo... Which would be just sticker goblin.
@Zauzzie
@Zauzzie 13 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity if they didn't already have an erratad version of the card and it wasn't a format staple in one of the very few aggro decks in the format I wouldn't even consider it
@ohno5559
@ohno5559 14 дней назад
word has finally reached Wizards that EDH isn't the only eternal format
@Karl_Smink
@Karl_Smink 14 дней назад
The fact that Muxus was a playable card in legacy, much less a legit threat, should have been a giant red flag that Name Sticker Goblin needed to go.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 14 дней назад
Note: Muxus saw Legacy prior on MTGO prior to Name Sticker Goblin seeing play. It's still a strong card; it just won't be happening on turn 1 or 2 nearly as often now.
@find2hard
@find2hard 14 дней назад
Gonna quit legacy until the print a replacement for NSG. They should've just erratad it to the mtgo version.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Do what makes you happy, but this is perhaps not the most healthy outlook to a fix to a clear logistical problem.
@ClubbingSealCub
@ClubbingSealCub 14 дней назад
🦀🦀🦀Unfinity is GONE🦀🦀🦀
@SnekFangz
@SnekFangz 14 дней назад
Unfinity? More like unfun-ity
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 14 дней назад
Hey, there's like 33 unique cards that are technically legal still. It's just that all of them suck, are aimed at commander or both.
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
*Sad Comet, Stellar Pup noises*
@ClubbingSealCub
@ClubbingSealCub 13 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity yes, I'm also sad that card isn't gone as well
@simonteesdale9752
@simonteesdale9752 13 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity What noises? After all, in space nobody can hear you whimper.
@hardcoreeconomist1089
@hardcoreeconomist1089 14 дней назад
Name sticker goblin needs a functional MTGO reprint. Absolutely shameful to see it go. Was the only card making legacy interesting
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Look harder. Legacy is FULL of interesting stuff and neat interactions.
@hardcoreeconomist1089
@hardcoreeconomist1089 13 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity fair, it’s just seeing a fun kindred deck die in the format is rough when they rarely are ever seen in comp anymore and goblins also brought a unique aggro flavor to legacy that hadn’t been seen in a long time
@joeaquilino19
@joeaquilino19 13 дней назад
This is all bc doomsday players and storm players though it was unfair losing to goblins to early 😅 total babies crying 😢
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Please keep your sexism out of my comments section.
@joeaquilino19
@joeaquilino19 13 дней назад
@@ThrabenUniversity total humans crying 😢
@pks4289
@pks4289 14 дней назад
Terrible decision by wotc...
@soprettymuchthatsthewayitis
@soprettymuchthatsthewayitis 14 дней назад
Why
@ThrabenUniversity
@ThrabenUniversity 13 дней назад
Note that the public reception of this is quite positive except from Goblins players.
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