@@mementomori6830 The commenter implied that looking at today’s USMC DI’s, one realizes that Goner PILE didn’t kill himself but became the many “heavyweight” DI’s you see today. Things are not always literal but often more allegorical, sometimes paradoxical, or oftentimes comical for emphasis.
Spent 15 in US Army infantry, but also did 3 years in recruiting ( 3 awful years). The thing that contradicts this era was parents coming to see me once their child had returned from basic. They couldn’t believe the transformation. They called their father “Sir”, mom was “ma’am”, they made their bed, cleaned their room, cleaned their plate at dinner, helped around the house, were generally more respectful to their siblings. Boot Camp and their equivalents in other services, even Navy and Air Force, transformed recruits into men and women. They arrived young and immature. They left with steel in their posture. Nowadays, they post Facebook shorts on how “sucky” it is they have to get up at 0530. This is deliberate. Something destructive is occurring. Better wake up.
Being in the military, my biggest fear has always been not being able to perform under pressure when things matter. Going easy on recruits and “softening” the standards does not help military members, it weakens them.
we find that out when they have to fight, it's IMMORAL to train people poorly and then send them to fight and die. the enemy has no mercy when you meet him
Look at the surge of PTSD cases - by stressing them in boot, you weed out the weak ones. Not saying there weren't PTSD cases before, but at this point you don't have ANY clue how these people will perform under pressure until it is too late.
One thing I'll always remember about my time in Army boot camp in 1980 was how good the DSs looked. Clean shaven, ripped, trimmed nails, perfect uniforms. Someone who demanded respect from their physical appearance alone.
@@ethanweeter2732 The fact that you're even questioning the combat abilities of a DI/DS is laughable. The majority of these instructors have combat experience and they are quite literally men of sheer commitment and willpower. Their daily existence is going through the stress of boot camp again and again with less sleep than recruits get.
@@ethanweeter2732I went through OSUT in Fort Leonard Wood, Mo in 1981. Most of the Drill Sergeants were Vietnam Veterans and those had CIBs. One was a veteran of the 173rd Airborne Brigade and had the coldest blue eyes. He never smiled and never joked.
@@roostershooter76honestly who cares? It’s not like they’re trying to become a doctor, and struggling with recruitment, yeah they can afford to relax standards
@@jayjyuri8796you think for one second the standards drop won’t effect occupations like the medical field? It’ll happen eventually, either through direct action because there aren’t enough POC/gay/women doctors or necessity because their education has suffered through lax standards elsewhere or staffing shortages. And yes, recruitment for law enforcement and the military are at historical lows. Probably because the younger generations have been repeatedly told the US is the worst and most racist country on the planet for the last 10 years, and we’re currently on the verge of the largest potential global conflict in human history. Thinking lax standards on those who create holes in people won’t directly or indirectly affect those who patch holes in people is simply disingenuous. There are numerous variables that suggest this will be the case.
The Roman’s went through this , the Egyptians , the Italians , the Greeks the sign of a nation is great disarray is the weaking of the military when the military and police force are week the country crumbles .
@@reef9999 No----just someone who runs recruiting let someone like this on the Drill Field. Shame on that Col. or Lt. Col. Yup----standards for Marines have really slipped.
My sister who is not even 100lbs soaking wet and 5' nothing with cerebral palsey wanted to become an EMT, she couldnt drag or pick up the 75lb dummy and was proud that she *miraculously* passed and was an EMT. Imagine being an average height/weight and the person coming out of the ambulance can't even pick you up and put you on a gurnny. It's DAMN shameful and should be treated as such, it pisses me off to no end to see physically incompetent people making into literally VITAL positions.
Dad is 89. 30 year Retired Lt. Col. and Vietnam Veteran. Days are tough. He has trouble walking, hearing and he has difficulty talking more then a few sentences. Just want to say appreciate this channel for recognizing our veterans and what they went through.
Awesome to hear and he sounds hard core, but every generation has what they call "real veterans" compared to the future generations, when in reality ALL veterans are worth recognizing for their service TBH
MOS 11B, deployed with 2-28 Black lions in pakita Afghanistan from 2011-2012. To any young people thinking of enlisting, DO NOT join, do not serve a government that hates you, spies on you, destroys standard of living for you and your family Our enemies are not foreign they are domestic
The “old” Corps died long ago. It was replaced with the “new”, kinder, gentler Corps of “stress” flags and knowing the proper “pronoun”. Meanwhile, all Wang Cho Chinaman cares about is “X ringing” you….
My son graduated from Boot Camp in San Diego last month. He said they were kept separate from the females and hardly saw them. Also, the new Marines all seemed squared away to me and the DI's I saw and met were lean and salty.
Yeah lots of oldies on here trying to prove they are worth something. This generation has gone to war and seen more combat than anyone in the 80's era - these old guys who rant on about not in my day are just salty and milking RU-vid views. Be proud of your son!
Yea these guys in the 80s era butthurt they didn't do sh*t but pretend to fight. Yea that DI is overweight, but the dude is out there hustling and who knows what he's going through.
Don’t feel bad, every generation thinks they’re “the best.” My granddad did the last part WW2, and NAM. Infantry, they physically beat them in basic back then. He thought the 80s/90s were soft. He wore ear lobes as a trophy, he thought the invasion of iraq was soft. Purple Heart recipient, had his entire squad get killed besides him. He went from E5 to E1 3 times 😂
As an ex French Legionnaire, 1989,I am shocked. OK, in the Legion regiments, there were some middle aged Caporal Chefs who had done their time in the infantry and were given service jobs, like admin or cooks, but in general, there were no fat legionnaires. Wether you liked it or not, we burned more calories than we ate.... And yes. this man does put the US marine corps to shame. But then the whole of the USA is headed down the road to obesity...the Marine corps is just playing catch up...
My drill sergeant in the army was prior Marines and he was the best drill sergeant ever. He trained us like marines. He was funny, and he would poke jokes at us.
If you run above a 285 PFT you are exempt from height and weight standards. They will drop you in drill instructor school if you do not make height and weight and you will be relieved from duty if at any time you are not within standard, therefore this guy must be a PT stud and is exempt. Drill instructor duty is no joke and they have no problem relieving people at any given time. We had a Sgt in my unit who just couldn’t seem to lose any weight, he was 5’11 and 240 and not muscular… Somehow this guy was one of the fastest guys in our unit and ran perfect 300 PFTs every time. It was mind boggling watching that big guy run so effortlessly.
The SDI in the video was my EDI for his previous cycle. A phenomenal drill instructor who held us to the highest standard. Its a shame this video isn't able to highlight that
USMC 63-67 Sgt e-5 Combat veteran. A different Corp now! No beatings, no vulgar or ethnic comments and NO females! Boot camp DI s did not change j uniforms during BOOT Camp and ran along in 3-5 mile runs and were in very good condition; Sad that the old corp is gone
Times thera' changin', that's for sure. Heard a Marine talking in the voice inflection routine at Cherry Point recently. WTF? Navy boot camp 1972, we did in fact run in the squad bay, usually for some infraction. The over the top rack, then under the next one, over the top etc. all the way around both sides of the squad bay, guys piling up on each other. We had to keep doing this until it was done orderly with no pile ups. Riot squad inspections, with Company Commanders throwing clothes and gear around, then hold an inspection in 15 minutes later, all clothing items back in their owners locker. Quite the mad house and quite the experience.
We had a green belt that looked sorta like that big green belt in the video, but he wasn't fat, he was ranked as the most in-shape DI in the company and was in MARSOC. Dude knew his stuff and jacked us up to levels one wouldn't believe.
I’ve seen places who pride themselves in equity say we need to bring up the bottom 50% to 50, regardless of where they fell, and can’t do anything to the upper 50%. If someone has a 70 are we supposed to add 50? No. Then how is it equitable?
They also carry time out cards now if they get over worled, they can pull it out and DI as got to back off and they also do cell phone brakes threw out the day now.
@@matt_b... I remember those dudes. By the end of boot camp all but one were squared away. The Senior DI told the last fat body that he wouldn't graduate and true to his word he was escorted from the platoon as were prepped for grad ceremony. We were purposely marched past the armory and he was cleaning weapons. San Diego 1983
My son is on the island right now. Crucible this week. Can't wait to hear the stories. He earned a call home a couple of weeks ago by breaking his scuzz brush on the deck one night. From the pics I've found of his company online the DI's did not look like marshmallow guy here.
@@dv6342You bang your brush on the floor during certain commands. He did it so hard it broke, which pleased the drill instructors. They let him call his parent likely for 5 minutes as a reward
Had a DI on the heavier side and he out performed most other DI’s and any recruit there. Was 1 st BTN C co. The DI was a Bravo DI that got dropped to us because of Injury. Even though he was heavy he still was a scary dude, did his job very well. 🤷♀️🤷♀️
Skuzz brush 500!!! We used to have to squish the house and put all the racks in the middle of the squad bay. Then put both hands on the skuzz brush and run around the racks and race 😂
To be fair, we had a guy in our scout platoon who was on the bigger side and appeared to be overweight. However, he was the second fastest guy in the Company.
We had something similar in our unit guys was as fit as a butchers dog. He went on to passed the 18 week Surveillance Reconnaissance Patrol selection course for 47/3 Battery Special Observer Bty. Sometimes you can get surprised by people never judge a book by it's cover and all that.
They are thinking that in a few years that all battles will be fought from behind a computer screen. No need for "boots on the ground", no need for dicipline or PT.
And we come together as a team as a unit and fight not with our weapons, but with our character, to defend and uphold what we believe to be just and true.
Summer of 85, Class 41-85 at Fort Leonard Wood Missouri. A Company 4/3. Served until Jan 2009. In my opinion the Drill Instructor is the ONE person within each Branch of the military that “Sets the Standard.” Throughout my service within the Army I’ve always kept within the standards my Drill Sergeant set (Sgt. Suppel and SFC Hammond).
My D.I. was in incredible condition that's ridiculous what they have become...next the eagle over anchor will be a giraffe and LGBT flag....what a shame
My cousin in law just retired from the Corp and spent a couple of his last few years as a DI, he is/was lean mean and squared away. Don't give up on our corp, just a few road bumps is all..
Had a drill sgt at benning a little on the thick side.... surprised the hell outta me cause he could run all day plus some. After a night of hot wings and beer.
Standards have been lowered for years. Also the constant push of carbs and processed oils/foods being pushed to the Americans has lead to the majority of us being obese or overweight.
The worst people among us rose to the top while losing the 20 year terror war. Understand that fact and understand the current tragedy. Results matter remember? Especially when it comes to losing long wars.
Wasn't even a war. Having to get permission to fire your weapon isn't a war. Winning hearts and minds, building schools and roads, not a war. Leaving a smoking wasteland behind... that's a war. Instilling fear into the enemy is a war.
1st battalion, Alpha company, platoon 1029. Hurts to see what is going on in this video and to see this DI in his uniform is unimaginable! We are in trouble for sure if this is allowed to continue!
It's only going to get worse people. Strong men make good times, good times make weak men men, weak men make bad times and bad times make strong men. Guess where we are in that cycle.
It's not the same Corps, me and some brothers went to visit Camp Horno a couple of years ago for the Marine Corps birthday. There was trash outside everywhere. Fat bodies walking around. They got air conditioners in the barracks now. Marines didn't know what Mount MF was. We as 40+ men where out humping enlisted Marines up mountain. A Lcpl told me that he got in trouble for calling a boot a bitch. It was a sad sight to see.
There is no excuse for being overweight in the military. The standards have been lowered. You guys think this is bad? You should see many members of the Air Force!
1st Bn A Co. PI here Jamie. 1990 and the 2D BN chow hall is what we ate at until we went to the range. As for the portly Marine, it is not just the expansion of his blouse as a giveaway, considering g he could still be in standards, but his pockets on his trousers and his blouse are indicators that he is not in a fitted uniform and should never have been allowed to be in front of our recruits. We cannot say for sure he is out of standards, but his uniforms definitely not properly fitting.
3rd Battalion, Mike Company, Plt. 3080. That Drill Instructor looks like they pulled him straight from PCP! My Senior looked like a jacked midget Dolph Lundgren and my Top Hat was 6’2”. They would’ve eaten these guys for a warrior breakfast.
3rd Battalion, India Company. Platoon 3000. Graduated Jan 14, 2011. Was one of the last platoons to be over off the trail of tears before the barracks got moved. Full Metal Jacket mixed with Jarhead. Lots of hazing was going on. A LOT
