A bonus if it turns out that the shipping companies will not carry battery powered cars, we can all carry on driving our infernal combustion engined, proper cars👍
Geoff instead of everybody sueing VW why do they not sue the battery manufacturer,it was the battery that started the fire so you don't sue the car maker !!!!!
Geoff there was a 3rd Cargo ship fire 31st December 2023 .This was carrying just EV batteries .Google search " The U.S. Coast Guard reports that the battery fire aboard the bulker Genius Star XI has been extinguished and that the crew are safe, days after the blaze began " .
The conversations within the ferry companies are already happening… intention is to have a dedicated parking area at the front / back of the ro-ro to somehow push the inferno into the sea
I had to transport a battery from an F1 car in my truck a few years ago, only 25kg, stored in a secure metal container, but I had to be declared it as dangerous goods and the truck was parked on the front of the open deck. And in the last year if we are transporting cars, we have to declare that they are not damaged when we book onto the ferry.
@@stephenbirchall941 But it was extinguished quickly, and the ship made it to port, unlike a massive lithium battery fire that cannot be extinguished and sinks the ship.
1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50K new or a $20K used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 4 years, no problem. There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt. Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla Ev purchase of 100,000 ev's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese polestar ev's. They did that because ev's cost to much to own, and too much to operate. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.
Was arguing last night on FB about how bad EVs are and he lost to plot sending me articles explaining how unsafe ICE vehicles are and how they apparently catch fire for no reason. It’s always amazes me that people will go out and buy an electric car with 90 miles of RWR no power steering etc for 45k. People are stupid.
As an owner of an F-type jag, I think going all-electric is sadly a retrograde step! Who wants a silent sports car? Love the growl mine makes, although from what I'm reading they are not going to make an electric version of the F-type anyway! 🙄
When and where do these cabals meet? Why would a company put itself out of business? What benefit do they derive out of not letting you drive? What planet did you beam down from?
Bye bye Jaguar. ALL of these ridiculous decisions being made by the car companies is deliberate in order to reduce the number of manufacturers going forward. You would have to be totally asleep not to agree.
The WEF foretell that car ownership will be much reduced in future. Clearly the public would prefer their petrol powered freedom; who wouldn’t?! The WEF want poverty of ordinary humans who will live in 15 minutes gettoes and thus won’t need vehicles. Quite how such people live or engage in economic activity is beyond me - only so much ‘work’ can be done shuffling electrons or data online. AI will make many such jobs obsolete too. So the whole notion of 15 minute gettoes and the restriction of freedom is totally destructive on humankind.
@@saralotti7174- that’s about it. The problem I see is that people will take a ‘let it rot’ attitude. If they cannot profit from their labours they won’t bother. I don’t foresee success. Cuba has tried to be a socialist paradise. It didn’t really work as it required subsidy from the Soviet Union. Ultimately the most successful system is the capitalist model, and that is being replaced with something of a dictatorship, with invisible billionaires pulling the strings of puppet politicians, in pretend democracies.
@@sullivanrachaelAI unless it's controlling robots will only replace paperwork type jobs, manufacturing is already done without AI and that will only increase, maintenance work, (joiner, plumber, electrician, etc), will be human powered for many years to come, possibly the last work humans will do. Brave new world everyone!!.
Tata dont want Jaguar to exist anymore ! they want to build tatas in the uk after jaguar goes bust ! they can lose all the debt and scoop up the factories and tooling for fuck all!!
Only trippled???? Mine went up from £1600 a year, to £5700 a year. 20 Year old Audi, 20 years of experiance, no accidents that resulted in insurance claims, 1 previous ban for excessive speed., Sucks eggs when insurance costs 2 days of pay.
Thanks Geoff, now....of to go to the old RU-vid videos where people were adamant that this was not caused by an EV....just so I can laugh at them! I expect the rest of you to do the same!
What an incredible waste of resources/materials with all these new vehicles ending up at the bottom of the sea. Makes being environmentally friendly an absolutely sick joke.
It already is. Mostly on passenger ferries I guess, but also can't see the shipping industry being particularly interesting seeing their fleets go up in smoke at a moments notice. There can be up to 6000 cars on one ro-ro vessel. Expensive machinery or specialized bespoke equipment for mining etc. Literally anything that rolls or can be dragged on
The ship drifted and burned in the Atlantic for about a week. After the fire was extinguished, a team from Smit was able to board and stabilize the ship, then it sank in heavy water a few days after that . says even at the time they all knew it was ev fire maybe just not which one started it/
@@robertkubrick3738makes sense, the recording couldn't be fiddled with to allow fiddling with the cargo. A Ferrari with 155/13 tyres on steel rims, "they all come like that sir" 😊.
saw a report that stated super yachts are reporting over a thousand battery fires a week! From bikes and flyte boards and other battery operated items etc. Some companies bringing out safe boxes to store these things in but I had to reread it a couple of times as it seemed like a massive amount.
1. Child battery mineral labor 2. Range anxiety 3. Risk of garage fires 4. Paying 20k more than a comparable vehicle 5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration. 6. Poor resale value. The porsche Taycan turbo S model Ev, loses over $100,000 dollars in 4 years time. That's $100k!, or $25k per year. A Nissan leaf Ev loses over half its value in 2.5 years. Here's a little joke ; how do you double the value of an Ev, when you go to sell it?.... Answer; you leave a $1 coin in the glove box. 7. Reduced performance in cold, highway. 8. Higher repair costs 9. Awful charging network experiences in the weather without restrooms 10. Higher insurance rates 11. Replacing tires more frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an Ev, and could be as high as 50% faster! Ev tires made for ev's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As Ev tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution. 12. Death by autopilot 13. $25k - $35k battery 14. Low km range per tank of energy. 15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs to charge. 16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging. 17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm. 18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die. 19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road) 20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid. 21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car. In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one. 22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals. 23. Chhinna actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries. 24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down. 25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million liters of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium. 26. Ev cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage.... 27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out. 28. If a fire truck comes to put out an Ev fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire. 29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear. 30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better. 31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff. 32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car. 33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a bomm. 34. For Ev transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the Ev truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that Ev truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money. 35. Ev cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery. 36. Ev cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your Ev tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. Ev's have left many families stranded already. 37. Ev's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.) 38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an Ev car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money. 39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminum and or fiberglass and or carbon fiber, to reduce emissions and pollution. Ev's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an ev's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual Ev, except for the tire particles as mentioned above. 40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in. 41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation. 42. Can't bring an Ev up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere. 43. Even Mr. Bean says; "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped". "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis." Mr. Bean is a smart man. 44. There isn't a used market for ev's. How are teenagers going to buy and insure a $50K Ev... (take your pick: either $50K new or a $20K used EV that needs a $20K battery replacement in a few years)?? A teenager can buy a used $1k ice car and be set up for 4 years, no problem. There's this Ev van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago.... They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt. Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla Ev purchase of 100,000 ev's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese polestar ev's. They did that because ev's cost to much to own, and too much to operate. Ev's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.
How about cross channel ferries and tunnel Geoff? Are we going to see holiday makers unable to take their EV and Hybrids over to the continent one day soon. I do think about this when I am in my overnight cabin next to the car deck..
Good update regarding the “felicity ace “ Geoff. Thanks. Your friend at “what is going on with shipping ?“ is busy reporting on ships being hit and sunk by missiles in the Red Sea. I think that there will be a lot to come about the “Fremantle highway” from him and others soon.
no new update, you can google articles on this court case from 2023, geoff here just spins it as new when it's not - he does it for clicks so he gets more money that is all.
I'm starting to feel a little bit concerned, I'm going to Caen on the Ferry in May, I'm assuming that there are going to be EV's on the Ferry, I hope my trip isn't going to be the one where the Ferry has an EV fire on board as one inevitably will do in the not too distant future.
A number of ways can be used to identify how/where fire started: -witness statement from crew -comparing load manifest to location of fire alarm system alerts -cctv - hard drives can be recovered from deep sea-water and data retrieved -external damage patterns on the hull before sinking - again compared to load manifest
@@robertkubrick3738 yes, I agree. My comment was outlying that even with cctv evidence trapped on had drives buried at sea, the data could still be recovered
As a former fire investigator that was my question too…how did they know? I can only guess they had crew witness statements or cctv, or perhaps a zoned fire detection system activation of which coincided with a deck of known vehicles……and we as we know ICE vehicles parked for days don’t burst into flames so the only probable cause remains an ev battery
The other car carrier fire (forgot the name) a year or so back, was also initially blamed on EVs, yet almost all the EVs were pretty much undamaged, and the fire started on a deck without EVs... This case seems odd as there doesn't seem to be any official report as yet on the source of the fire, so this seems an odd step to take to blame one car maker.
@@stuinNorway If they are wrong, I imagine naming them would mean a costly defamation claim.....I can only think before going public they must have had an addressable fire detection system and a good record of the loading locations of the cars in hand to make such a call - not that anyone could prove it 100% no just on the balance of probabilities ..
just click bait from geoff, this is no new update, a quick google search shows articles from last year - with it being said its an ev fire, but nothing to confirm it. The other ship geoff mentions wasn't an ev fire at all. Also a ship on fire for 3 weeks isn't indicative of an ev fire, as they just leave them to burn out - all those ice vehicles full of oil will also burn in a fire
It does make you think. I live in Norway who are obsessed with EVs and also safety. The apartment block i live in has 3 garage spaces under us. There's two EVs down there being charged nightly. Also the collective is asking us all to chip in to upgrade the lecky for more charging which im not in for really when i think about it. I wonder if the safety side might be the u turn on all this crap
The evidence confirming the source of the fire must be compelling if a court action is already in place. It will be interesting to see if the evidence gets made public.
Firefighters report that the fire on the Felicity Ace is almost under control. But unfortunately they are still waiting on the availability of hoses long enough to reach the seabed.
Hi Geoff, I would like to congratulate you on your videos, discovered your channel only recently but find your content very informative, factual and entertaining. Keep up the great work. From Brisbane, Australia 🇦🇺
They know which deck the fire started on, and they know what was on it, the loading plan would have that info. Must be crew members in person or CCTV footage that showed whereabouts the fire started. Bear in mind it burnt for a long time and there obviously were attempts to contain/ extinguish the fire before the crew were ordered to abandon ship.
There are probably a network of fire sensors and sprinklers as well. If you know which one activated first and the order they were activated you can build a plan of the fire and its spread.
Anyone who are transporting cargo on a ship are liable to pay any salvage costs equally. Normally you pay an insurance to not have to do this. I have many times purchased such an insurance when transporting cars across the ocean. Probably VW have refused to pay the costs and therefor it goes to court.
One of your best videos Geoff. Lets hope that all shipping companies refuse to carry these bombs on wheels. That should put a crimp on the planet saving EVangelists. The Luton car park contained EVs so it doesn't matter what the source of fire was - as soon as the flame reaches the nearest EV, the temperature rises high enough to melt the building structure. I am travelling on a car ferry this weekend and the thought of EVs under my cabin worries me.
I've just finished watching an old aircrash investigation programme from several years ago, and guess what brought a cargo 747 down? Yes, you're correct. A hold full of rechargeable lithium batteries. No surprises there then!
Just Keep swimming! Just Keep swimming.... the truth is everywhere, But Still.... The People didn't see!! .. but at lease more are starting To Now! Love you work mate. Cheers from Australia.
Thanks for your programmes, they are unbelievable revealing all the green issues related to ev.A friend of ine in the winter told how she could only get 100miles per charge. Now she can get 220 miles per charge. She was told to heat the battery in the winter, which I learnt from you. Thankyou keep up the excellent performance.
Yes! "Roll on - roll off"... strap the EVs pointing toward the edge of the ship, so if one ignites, a sailor can just release the straps and let the car roll into the ocean before the fire effects any other vehicles.
What a genius way of driving car companies out of business! Are they being captured on purpose? What a skeptic I am... Grand work Geoff, as always (When's that bloomin' Honest Health interview with Ahmad being loaded onto his channel? )
As part of the discussion regarding EV fires, a key aspect worth mentioning relates to delving into actual "root cause". Often times, blame is quickly assigned to EV manufacturers (particularly those with deep pockets, such as Porsche) when actually the Lithium-Ion battery cells/pack (sourced from China) has most likely failed as a result of internal defects or workmanship errors. Credit (or in this case fault, no pun intended) must be given where due. An EV's battery temperature management system can only maintain optimal operating conditions. If an individual Lithium-Ion cell develops an internal electrical short this will cause localized overheating leading to thermal runaway and self ignition. The EV's temperature management system will be unable to suppress or extinguish a resulting catastrophic event. Since the Lithium-Ion combustion creates its own oxygen supply (created by an internal chemical reaction), any external attempts by a ship's fire suppression system or firefighters will most likely be unsuccessful ... which is why over a dozen RoRo auto transport ships containing literally many thousands of cars were reported lost to fires in 2022 (all of which are suspected to have originated from a failed EV battery pack). In summary, any financial restitution placed on EV manufacturers should in reality be assigned to Chinese Lithium-Ion battery companies!
EVS constantly setting themselves, which are very hard to extinguish for the fire service, isn’t good for the people whose lives they’re putting at risk every time they drive them, and all the pollution their fires are causing definitely isn’t good for the planet.
I am a regular traveller between Belfast and Liverpool. I worry that the EV's battery may have a fire. I asked staff on board what their procedure was for EV fire. They were oblivious and were unaware of the fire risk. Stena put their staff and passengers at unnecessary risk.
Maybe we need to start some kind of highscore for EVs (and JLR), to see which brand is leading the kill charts. Porsche taking down a ship, JLR Airports, Tesla with their genius FSDIO (Full Self Driving Into Objects), various house fires.... it's hard to keep track of their deeds.
Transportation of large quantities of Li-ion batteries on planes was banned years ago after a runaway fire crashed a cargo jet (UPS-6) back in 2010. Li-Ion fires can reach temperatures as high as 2000 degrees Fahrenheit!!
In Canada two cars had to be written off because their batteries had what looked like a slight ding after going over something why not replace the battery on nearly new cars (Hyundai Ioniq 5 I believe) because they were quoted over 61,500 Canadian Dollars plus costs the guy showed the quote thats over £36,000 the car they showed had a tiny ding on the battery.
Keep 'em coming, Geoff. Great videos. For info, I still get your output on my feed so all is well there but I've lost others. YT works in mysterious ways.
All the decks on those ships do have cctv as well smoke/fire detectors, which are monitored from the bridge. They would of known what deck, what bay and what was stored there, both visually and by cargo manifest. I would not be surprised if the shipping company would lose because, it might be deemed that that have taken responsibility of the cars by accepting cartage.
Geoff, MOL car carriers record very accurately the location on board of every car by vin / chassis number / case number. Heat & or smoke detectors would have alerted the crew very early when something went wrong. Cars are generally loaded by type for a given destination. My guess is all ev’s by make would have been stowed together, its just sensible & logical from a loading point of view. They may not identify a specific car, but they sure as shit will no where and among what cargo the fire started.
A couple of Newark, NJ, USA, firefighters died in a car carrier fire in Port Newark less than a year ago, and speculation was it was also an EV fire. A lot of lawsuits have been filed regarding that fire. It will be interesting to see what they reveal. May the firefighters rest in peace, and god bless them.
Remember airships being highly regulated after the Hindenburg incident? Who would have thought that another highly flammable material would cause fires that can’t be extinguished is a bad idea.
