Man hearing that somebody my age is already retiring to experience what life has to offer really bummed me tf out knowing I have realistically another 50 years of “the grind” ahead of me
I hear you man it's crazy to think you can make RU-vid videos for 8 years, and then you can be retired, live, and do whatever you want. Unless you're a couple years from retiring, then we Most likely will not get social security when the time comes. It seems most of us will work into the geriatric age. Tifu had a great job, and working 6 hours a day drained this man out in 8 years, boohoo. Forced to dk shit you don't want to do, hmmm, that's most of every regular job, and guess what we have to do it we have no choice
You hit the nail on the head with getting pigeon holed part, I think slowly expanding the depth of content is key, you lose some subs, you gain some subs, but in the end the people that want to be there for you will stick around, and you weed out the fair weather fans.
Really appreciate the discussion on this. I remember starting a channel and everyone's like "THATS NOT A JOB" and now yeah, every kid wants to be a content creator. I really feel for streamers, youtube vids can be evergreen but streaming is insanely full time. Gotta do what makes you happiest or you'll just burn out ey.
I think an overlooked factor is that those people usually have a lot of money. So you constantly have the temptation to quit. Because you can. That makes it harder to keep grinding than if you didn't have the option. Anyone who has ever worked from home knows how hard it is to work sometimes when you know you can just take a nap instead...
It sounds like their issue is non-existent then… if they can just stop having a job. I think the real issue is they’re usually people who are young or started young. They’re feeling burnout we all feel, but don’t know how to deal with it because well, they have no coworkers and their whole job is selling their own personality. It’s hard to reach out to people when people expect a certain attitude.
"Why are online content creators quitting at such a young age?" The simple answer is that they can afford to. They have made much more money than an average 9-to-5 worker will have made by their young age and thus, they basically have the freedom to retire - or "quit" - early.
It's a weird topic. You're entirely right but so is Charlie. Many youtubers that hit that milestone do really owe it to their audience; an audience that, of course, they can't relate to in a personal level. These communities are not real communities with said youtuber because many times they're faceless and careless of each other out of online posting unlike a real world community that checks on each other. Many youtubers get directly paid even by their supporters in a way that no other career does. These youtubers in the end do really just mature out of their starting point; many of them, as Charlie pointed out, began young and had to trascend into adulthood and no longer want to make content that they began making towards people that were in their teen/young adult ages. If we all could do that, we would. In the end, what he points out sums it up. "It's all about luck". They hit the jackpot.
@@Proxuius A 9-5 is far more stable and consistent than streaming/creating content, all you have to worry about is doing your job, which is a pretty straight forward thing most of the time, streaming is a bit more creative, which can be fun, but also extremely stressful when you don't know what to do, and there are so many examples of failure on the same website, you don't want to end up like them.
this is something that seems “taboo” to talk about, and appreciate you for doing it. keep it new and exciting, because no matter what you do for work if you feel forced, you won’t enjoy it.
I personally think another reason for burnout is the fact that since its not like a regular job , you don't ever really feel like your done work for the day. You record, edit, stream and when your not doing those you constantly plotting the next video in your head or on social media building your presence. Its just a job that doesn't have an end time.
I am actually surprised that you are able to stream daily and create videos everyday, and those videos seem like they take their sweet time to prepare when it comes to research. Mad respect Charlie
@@ratgirlfloraof course he has employees. Still needs to sit in front of the camera himself, still has to pick topics that he wants to focus on, still needs to put his own insight into the videos. He also still owns an esport org. Even if he's not involved in the day to day business, there's going to be meetings and shit like that. Same with that wrestling league. I'd be surprised if people like Charlie or Ludwig weren't clocking 12 hour work days on the regular
I think the social aspect of it would make it feel like such a grind to me. Most jobs require you to interact with other people face-to-face on a daily, or at least weekly basis. Online content creation can (doesn't have to) be done on your own. Just sitting in your home office with your pc all week working alone isn't for most people I think.
As an introvert, yes I can go for very long stretches of time and be quite content in my own little bubble of no human interaction, but I also realize that interacting with humans is kinda like updating the operating system of your phone or computer. It’s gotta be done or stuff quits working right. Might not be fun. But it needs to happen.
I'm just Happy for Pewds that he's happy and content where he's at, and also still shares his life with us with Vlogs. Sure we miss him playing games but I totally understand him being drained or "sick" of games after years of doing the same thing.
I remember when Texan in Tokyo closed down her channel, with her husband; because they had chosen to have a child and wanted to just live their life and not raise their child in front of an audience, when the child could not give consent to be onscreen. It was so respectful and deeply thought out, and I cried. I had watched them for years, and it was beautiful seeing them leave for such a positive reason. I'm glad that others have made the decision to not live in a spotlight forever. It's such an extreme lifestyle, especially for people that started when they were kids and grew up to be celebrities. It's kind of like TV child stars but more intrusive. It is good to have them decide to examine other parts of their life.
Having a child is a usually a huge opportunity for getting massive views, especially for the “family” vloggers type . Knowing that alone makes me respect them even though i didn’t know them before 🫡
One important thing that I don't think was quite covered here: Most people can't do this. Ever. Not for their entire lives. They can't just one day go "Welp, that's it, I'm gonna go have fun now." They will be working until they die at their desk, or at their line, or holding a broom at McDonald's, because it is outright impossible to otherwise be able to afford to live.
@@pennywisethedancingclown7761 there are so many openings. I guarantee if you looked you could find a job paying a third more than what you do now with less responsibilities by the end of the week. Rn is not the time to bitch about the job market.
I do sympathise in a way because, experiencing burnout ain't fun, but I sympathise more with countless other ordinary workers trying to put food on the table of their loved ones, and with no option to take a break...
Exactly this. I can't say I wouldn't do the same if I was in the shoes of a huge RU-vidr, but it really is a luxury issue since they basically lost all motivation having earned enough money to sustain themselves for the forseeable future.
right. people work 40 hours a week behind a computer making 30k a year. It's mostly people realizing fame isn't that great and they've got a nest egg big enough to leave and live their lives.
I have watched all these creators and respect the big changes for them. I would have stopped making videos if not for my community that I have build. I feel like it's 50/50 with my subscribers and it's been fun to make fun meme content with them. People say "do whatever you want" and yes that's true, you should do what makes you happiest but also keep the audience in mind as well. I never hated my "job", sure editing sucks from time to time and is tedious but the main factor that I get rewarded from is keep doing the same shit that my community enjoys. I have never got burnt out from making the same content. I hope that Tfue, PewDiePie, and all content creators choose the best situation that makes them the most happiest
These ppl have either forgotten how miserable a real job is and will realize shortly after quitting. And it's no coincidence that money is harder to make online now and now their done.
Making different content is impossible, I've been making MC videos since I was 16, I recently made one video on how my channel got hacked and had to take a break, I instantly lost 20k Subscribers In just 2 months. I'm never going to have the opportunity to branch out without taking a major hit. luckily, I still enjoy my job and I'm incredibly grateful for this opportunity, I don't plan on quitting.
As a construction worker who spends everyday all day outside in the pissing rain, baking sun, snow and ice, doing back breaking work, I appreciate you understanding and acknowledging that it is harder that being a youtuber. My ex would complain about me making 2x her pay as a cashier bc "her feet hurt too, its not fair". Some jobs are more demanding than others. I can sympathize but don't pretend like all jobs are just as painfully demanding.
Of course not . But that career path has enabled him to walk away if he chooses too . Keep in mind he spent his life inside while his brother lived his life outside having fun . He just wants to enjoy life for a while . If you had that opportunity I would encourage you to do it aswell !
I can def relate. Im a chef i started cooking cause i love cooking for others. The idea of taking these objects of nature transforming it with your hands and then people ingesting it and what you made actually becoming a part of then and sustaining their life. Theres something incredibly satisfying about it but at the same time i have to work often 50-60 hours a week, miss every holiday and family function and now being 40 years old physically it is now taking its toll. Its all subjective doesnt matter if youre doing what you love doing the same thing over and over again will takes its toll and you will have the epiphany that you just might be waisting your life and should do other things.
it is crazy funny to me when streamers talk about how hard being a streamer is. sure, its not the easiest job in the world, but if its sooooo damn hard you can always just quit and go do 12-hour shifts at mcdonalds like the rest of us.
@@_holy__ghost i know streamer who would get tired of Overwatch grind on stream and left the community to try things irl... only to eventually come back because streaming is ez af money lol. Once you get your audience you get insane amount of money in comparison to regular job. I think I can understand that streaming is similar grind to usual 9-5 job. Rather than being physically exhausting it gets ultimately super boring and they probably also feel like they don't contribute to anything. You can't come to your parents and say proudly "yeah I play games all day, that's my job" lmao. If they didn't make enormous amounts of money by doing that they would be a laughing stock for vast majority of people
I hope tfue decides to be in more his brother jacks videos on joogsquad. Would be very awesome to see the brothers pulling pranks together. I guess we shall see. Hopefully if anything, they spend more time together and share a good brotherly bond together.
It's always dangerous to turn your hobby into your work. As a hobby you do it as much as you want but you can let it go whenever you want, when you don't feel like it for the moment or so. As a job you are obligated to do it even when it doesn't feel right and that can quickly take the fun out of it.
I can imagine that having such an online presence can really take a toll on someone and their mental health, good for anyone taking a break, or even leaving. Whatever makes them happiest.
being famous online is a nightmare. you could never convince me to become famous online, you get all the downsides of being a real celebrity with none of the clout.
@@cat-le1hf yeah, retiring at 30, what a nightmare! get a fucking grip, these people dont work any harder than the average 9-5 worker does, they just make enough money to have the option to quit their job
Nobody wants to work forever. These guys are lucky enough that they can retire extremely early. I don't think anybody expects any of their favorite creators to keep making content for their entire lives. Content creation is a dream job, but it's a job nonetheless.
It's also a very intense grind to keep it up at such a high level for so long. Most of them loved it, there's no question about that, but I assume they feel like it's time to move on to things that give them more meaning.
I think the difference between being a content creator and a 9 to 5 working person is that, When you are a successful content creator for a while you have a lot of money and you can have the freedom to say "I have enough to live for the rest of my life and i've done everything i wanted to do here so i'm going to retire soon" while when you work a regular job and not willing to build your own carrier, you are also affected by burn out but you have no choice but to keep going to survive and provide for your familly and occasionally go on vacation to disconnect etc... Both carrier path forces you to be here all the time no matter what but we can't deny that being a content creator, objectively comes with more benefits if you are succesfu than a 9 to 5 would. In a regular job you also do the same stuff over and over and over again most of the time.
If you get high paying 9-5 and making 100k$/ year then you would probably better retire off at 40 or 50 if you start at age 25, overpopulation is a big hell so create a small family but if you think it's better without family then no reason to do 100k$ / year just get 4 hours a day job with decent pay
Im a doctor, but as a child i remember when i was asked what i wanted to be id say cartoonist. Over the time, as i grew older that dream became apparently almost impossible as i live in a third world country and it turned into being an animator and then an architect. I still feared going towards something artistic so i endednup following my friends into med school. That said, there are a few times ive tried to push into content creation as it's something ive wanted forever, but each time id get overwhelmed by the grind it is to do so. Its probably worse than the grind to be a doctor lol. So i really respect youtubers who consistently upload content, its no easy feat at all and i can see why people just decide to leave.
I don't know if harder is the word, we kind of adapt to the grind that we got (chosen or otherwise). Lots of manual labor workers say stuff like "I can't handle studying for a day, let alone almost a decade" but as an engineer pursuing a Master's degree, I know I'd crumble doing just a day's work (if even that) in their shoes. This is not to say that overwork or overstress isn't a thing, just that we see our own grind as more tolerable bc we've adapted to it, however there is still a limit to that tolerance.
As a Biologist I'm very happy to spend overtime with my cultures (I work with bacteria lol) but being in the public eye for even half the amount of time I spend in a lab would certainly drain me. I can't be "On" that long, you know? I think what makes content creation so difficult of an idea is that it requires you to **be** a certain way. **Have** a certain personality or proclivity towards being the center of attention for hours with NO dead air. That's more brainpower than I spent getting my certs, LMFAOO.
@@PabAngman that's sad you doing master degree in engineering, you know that engineering degree comes from MANUAL LABOR what a sad life to not recognize that
@@PabAngvery wise. We all choose our own path not necessarily because it is what we want to do but it is easier (or more suitable for us) to do so. The grind is truly different for everyone. Only in a moisty comments section will I find people who understand life so well 😂
What I’m learning is that working is truly hard for everyone and we have all come a long way. Editing this comment bc someone is gonna bring wealth into this and I don’t want that to be the big takeaway
I loved my IT job for 10 years but now I really love being outside and around people. An older friend of mine told me it's a thing for some IT workers, they go more towards people as they get older and away from technology.
I think pewdiepie still love making content, he just wants to do it for fun instead of having the obligations to do so. He always loved making videos for us, he is just going back to doing it for fun instead of for the sake of “the grind”
He said this a long time ago as well, it isn't new news. He took a break a long time ago,then came back to do what makes him happy. It was a whole thing, so not super recent
Pewds dont gotta prove anything anymore. He runs a couple of brands, streams for fun, and makes youtube videos whenever. His archive of videos still gets views and adsense...he doesnt need to WORK anymore.
@@CrickBritt that’s what i mean. I was just saying what he stated before bc the video seems to imply that pdp is no longer enjoy making videos which isn’t the case. He is pretty much just like charlie. Making videos bc he likes doing it. It’s just the fact that pdp now has other responsibilities (his family) and wants to focus doing other things that interest him too and not just making videos.
I've grown up watching people like pewdiepie, markiplier and jacksepticeye and i'm glad for them and where they are in their lives. They've entertained us for longer than we've realised and I think it's time for them to give themselves a break. They are humans too after all.
MatPat from game theory quitting and moo from the vanoss crew quitting too. Bruh it’s so sad my childhood guy are quitting but need to remember that they also growing up too 😔😩😭
It's a lot easier to step away when you're already successful and rich. Not in a cynical way, but for a lot of people they just want to be their own bosses and online creation allows us to do that. All I ever wanted was to have a stake in my job, when I try or succeed I get a cut of that. I don't get that in my 9/5 job. Charlie touches on these points which I appreciate. Money runs the world, it's hard to avoid that.
All I want is a job i don't loathe that pays enough for me to afford my own bills and a vehicle and eventually my own home. That is a a far-fetched dream for normal people. So all this shit about youtubers makes me think they're just entitled because of their success. My goal in life is to be a successful fantasy author, but even that, i'll feel successful just making enough off it to get by in life. Like man, I can't imagine just quitting a job just because i'm tired of it and want to step away (literally like 99% of the work force fits that description, bruh.)
I respect when people know that they're not as happy anymore and are fortunate enough to be able to make a change. Life is too short too force yourself to grind everyday if you're not enjoying it and are lucky enough to be in a position where you don't HAVE to
Yeah, I agree. There is a RU-vidr I used to love called RyanHiga that I consider to have retired as well. It's not official, but I'm contempt with the fact he will probably never return to RU-vid. He already made his success
It’s sooooo absolutely awesome that Charlie doesn’t ever see himself leaving. He’s make his channel and gotten his fans from sticking to, doing what he wants to do” instead of sticking to, the same thing that he started doing”
RU-vidr used to be my dream job but as I grew into my late teens I realized that being a RU-vidr isn’t all it’s made up to be. The constant grind to churn out new videos to keep your fanbase hooked, the hate you get for just existing on the platform, the stress of trying to make a livable income on a view based platform where the algorithm could just completely screw you over, and of course coming to the realization that you spend a huge part of your life sitting behind a screen editing videos and that realization must be heart breaking. So instead of RU-vidr I’m currently in college to become a history teacher!
Lol same. I’d love to just make videos all day but it sounds like tough work. No editors, no help, just you. Sure once you become known or if have a friend to help out, it’s not ALL by yourself. But it’s still work to make sure the recording software is all functioning and the editor can get the files properly. It’s overwhelming really fast. Honestly I really should try getting back into it, even just as a hobby. But as for jobs I’m also in college but for Graphic Design! Still requires spending a lot of time in front of a computer but I do that part anyway, so might as well be paid about it.
I only make vids when I want to and try my best to not care about how well i'm performing, with respect to the volume i'm producing. i still hate editing and probably always will, but i love all the other parts and it's awesome to get to do whatever I want every day and just make vids of it
Don’t worry mr shanger if you ever start to fall off just focus even less on the dives and even more on zooming into any ass you can spot in the ocean you will be fine!
It seems that Charlie doesn’t get tired of this because he’s genuinely just doing whatever he wants to do. There’s so many different types of videos on this channel. Feels more like he’s doing what he wants and putting a camera in front of it so others can see, rather than doing things for the camera. Bet he’d still be doing a lot of this stuff and talking about these topics with his friends even if a camera wasn’t rolling
When Charlie was speaking about losing 8k subs after 4 days is mind blowing. I’m still subbed to people I literally haven’t watched in almost a decade.
Yes I'm confused. So many people unsub just for a couple of days? I'm taking regular vacations 2-3 weeks long. So I'd be at risk of nuking my channel? Wtf
@@Fumas12Yeah RU-vidrs don’t often take vacations, at least it seems like that. I’m sure lots just make enough content to fill the space when they’re on vacation but that still requires work, and uploading
one of the reasons why i like watching charlie is because his contents revolves around things that actually makes him happy. it must be hella stressful to go out of your character and create a persona and contents around that persona just to please people.
I’m struggling to figure how anyone would find happiness in covering internet drama, acts of violence, cringe videos, and other assorted terrible things. Sorry, this doesn’t make sense. None of this should make anyone happy.
@@cruisingscenesandtakingbea4197 humor? He doesn't seem to take majority of them seriously. If he did then I'd imagine it'd be stressful but most of the time he's just talking about them with humor
That’s so sweet to hear that streaming and RU-vid is what makes Charlie happy. He’s such a good guy from what we’ve seen; it’s nice to know this isn’t a prison for him.
Man i get it to a stance its draining , but at the same point it pays off vs working i 9-5 thats a mental stress aswell than coming home wondering how you gonna feed your kids or pay your car note ...imagine that stress vs working on stream hating it and then getting in your lambo and going to some of the finest places and restaurants
"It doesn't nullify his feelings on it" I feel like this kind of thing doesn't get said enough. Just because you envy someone and think they have it "good" in no way means THEY aren't allowed to be unhappy and want something else.
To a vast majority they do. People in the west forget we are a minority, most of the world is starving to death or doesn't even have access to running water or toilets while losers sit here playing games or watching people play games. Complaining that you're bored because you're making money doing nothing is the most infantile thing I've ever heard. Go volunteer, do some good. Fuck sakes this world is full of entitled pussies.
It doesn't get said enough because it is a ridiculously stupid thing to say. Lol Very few people who have lived or ever will live get to find true happiness. And it is significantly harder to shake off the stress of starving to death vs the stress of having to edit videos and talk to chat. Boo hoo, millionaires are sad. Honestly, if the privilege of being supported financially and emotionally by thousands or millions of regular hard working people is not enough to make you happy...
My assumption is that creators are feeling burnt out due to the lack of rigidity that comes with 9-5 jobs. Having to stress over what content viewers will enjoy and being solely responsible for their success. There are no safety nets either as a content creator so I can understand why so many creators might get burnt out from stress.
True. I don't like my job but at least I know exactly what I'll be doing every day. I can come in with my brain turned off, I can be in a bad mood, whatever, and that doesn't change the fact that I'll do my little routine then get paid just the same as I did last week.
Not to mention most 9-5 jobs have at least a week of vacation and sick pay, your 9-5 job won't disappear the moment you have a vacation with your family. Everyone in the business world woth any common sense and data knows they need to send their employees to vacation to keep good talent and keep them sharp. Meanwhile, content creators are under pressure thst they'll lose their audience the moment they do so. It's not to say every person needs that but you're more likely someone who needs it than not.
turns out structure helps you also reduce your work: it ends at 5, that's it. Being "your own boss", you HAVE to work until you have enough revenue, no matter how long that is, and often times its longer than 8 hours from mon to fri
creators, especially younger ones often get roped into content they never deeply and honestly passionate about to begin with, but suddenly went viral way too quickly over something and didnt have time to experiment first with what actually makes them happy. way too often the happiness temporarily comes from all the subs and attention from going viral even if its content they dont truly care about & the attention keeps them falsely happy and floating for a little keeping the brain satisficed like a temporary drug high. but thats always going to be temporary for everybody. and some ppl never truly like making those steps of content creation to begin with and find creativity exhausting. Its simple but sometimes difficult for ppl to just be who they want to be. they feel locked but need to stop letting numbers dictate there lives. there is a point where u have enough money, and a point where numbers and subs no longer add true value to your life. it comes with wisdom understanding how to separate all these things for each and every person. ppl like charlie started with strong roots and a foundation by doing this all for himself since the begining and it shows as time goes by how much wisdom he has. he reminds me more and more of a wizard lol or a jesus (meme) when it comes to wisdom
@@jamedawg2037 "forced to do" I'm sure Dreams and all these other people love their communities, yet burn out is common among long term content creators. Source: Dr. K @ HealthyGamerGG
@@Xbitxx Absolutely. I'd rather hate my job and be rich than hate my job and be poor. Weirdly, rich people seem to be the ones who become successful, so they get burned out easier than the average person working 2 jobs they despise to barely make ends meat
@@Xbitxx exactly like boo hoo you have to work torward your dream job 💀 ik people in college who have stayed up days on end studying and still fail like, these "influencers" have it so easy
What I realize is, these people got greedy. Sorry. It’s really hard to empathize. Burn out? Most of these people are millionaires.. they want to keep subs cause they want more money, stay relevantt vs doing it to entertain. The fact millionaires still asking for subs, donations, and the. Complain about burn out.. Sorry.. it’s really hard to sympathize.. when others work a job they hate and have no choice,. They burn out and still there.. so ya, millaionre eetire at 2t is a dream job However, people how retire early also lose purpose.. part of life is a purpose.. if u already achieved your dream what’s next> Which is why u see people from time to time do make a video.. low key these people don’t want to fade away..
In terms of earning a living, sure, but if you were doing something from a passion and you've decided to move on, losing something once filled with joy is its own consequence(it doesn't exactly threaten your livelihood, but losing something that meaningful from your life will take time to recover, if even at all).
i can imagine it being brutal. it's playing 6-8 hours on camera with people watching every move and analyzing everything you say. Not to mention having to constantly engage with your audience. i would still like to give it a try even though i think i wouldn't pull many viewers lol.
It's a pain in the ass. I had a channel with thousands of subs and it got a few copyright strikes for using a Final Fantasy song in the background. It's so much work to keep up with content and starting from scratch was a nightmare.
No, seriously, wtf? 8,000 lost because you were gone for four days?! I always thought to myself, that creators shouldn't be so harsh on themselves trying to sh*t out as much content as possible because we're following other creators. And those creators will usually keeps us feed till you come back. But holy sh*t, apparently that was never the case. People will jump ship if they don't get something from you the moment they need it.
Yeah, I've seen a number of creators lose audience for uploading or streaming content different than their usual thing in addition to their regular content. Like, they didn't even release less content -- they added an extra thing that was somewhat different from usual and people drop off. That's why so many creators have to make a separate channel because people want one super specific thing and anything outside of that feels like dropping a page from another book into the book you're reading, apparently
@@Emojibones From what I've heard, many people are often gift subbed to streamers on twitch aren't known about it. Most of the time, the gift sub is for a month -- and while crazy to think about? It /is/ possible that a good number of those dropped subs occurred when he took that break. Now clearly, this can happen at any day of the month for those who got gift subbed, but I heard it being the case. I have also heard that most people only sub when the stream is live, so there's also that info to take into account. It can be very rough depending on the platform.
I’m not sure how the pigeon holding argument is different than any other profession. You can’t decide to just switch without similar friction either coming to the other profession (are your skills relevant, do you have experience) or going back to it (are you up to date, when was your last recent experience). Companies much like audiences expect consistency, the quid pro, linear progression. The unpaid leave, loss of income is a fair point. Most jobs don’t reduce your pay if you take time off though for hourly employees they can reduce or eliminate your hours so even that argument is weak. At the end of the day all jobs are rigid.
I kept doing board repair videos after I no longer found it fun or interesting because the audience said they wanted them. It got old to keep doing the same thing. What I found out by accident is that nobody was actually here for board repair, they were here for the rants along the way _while_ I was fixing the board. It was a relief to realize I didn't have to go over the same circuit for the 738th time to keep the audience happy. I don't hate repair. Just going over the same video format for the 900th time. I don't find it fun. The ability to get people to care about a fixable, freer world has been the opportunity of a lifetime. Even if I fail, it'll be a pride point for the rest of my life, and having an audience that's empowered me to make a small dent in my corner of the world will be something I can smile about with appreciation for them from now until the day I die. I can't imagine what it's like for people who make content they hate just because they feel like they need to to make money. The best alignment is when you do what you are good at, do what you enjoy, and can make money doing it - but I realize much of the population isn't so lucky.
Hey man I played Town of Salem almost every day for 5 years straight. Right before I stopped I remember thinking to myself “I could see myself doing this for many more years to come” and then only *4 weeks* later I was done completely. I realized that the game made me more anxious than happy so I moved on and never looked back. My point is you never truly know when you’re going to wake up one day and realize you want change. If you ever have this change I’ll respect it completely
As someone that lives both worlds of a content creator and actually having a real life job. I agree. me doing all this extra content/music, definitely has it moments, the promotion aspects, and the timing that comes with it is can get overwhelming eventually, but it’s still 100% more easier than a 9-5 job.
Thing with Pewdiepie has a special thing...I mean I remember watching him play Amnesia and old indie horror-like games after school, while eating. He's made my childhood so much more fun Him saying he's gonna live his life and dedicate his life to his family makes me so happy. Almost like (after growing up) I wanted to hear that from him, he earned it. I can't feel nothing but gratitude and appreciation for everything he has made me feel. And I'm not even a native english speaker, I'm from south america, yet during those times I felt like he was a close friend
Think he helped me with English a bit. Him and community that was always making subtitles, I was more and more confident in consuming content in English and with time I was able to watch my favourite films. Still have to do hella work in grammar department and read more tho But am very grateful, and I'm so glad he was #1 popular youtube person with his message despite how this platform didn't showed him love
@@simpleman7203 Totally!! While most of my friends were watching more of Rubius, or MaritoBaracus, Alfredito and the like (I watched them too), I watched PewDiePie, Markiplier and so and my English was developed so well! Like you, I still have to learn a lot more about the writing and grammar, but it was a huge improvement!
It's the sense of burnout combined with being the boss of your own, realising that the moment you slow down, take a break or stop being entertaining enough is the moment you might lose everything is taxing on people, and this can also apply to many other jobs out there
There's no "losing everything" when you've got millions in investments that are only going to expand for the rest of your life lmao, these guys don't need to work another day in their life
You've just explained every entertainer ever. That's why you need to find your true passion and a goal to work towards that only grows with time. If that isn't you, then you become famous for something you don't really have a real passion for as a business and you get bored and trapped.
IMO, if these streamers have this problem, and they are still interested in social media content, they should just Stream other games, without caring about numbers and without caring about consistency, though they also have losed all their interest in social media althogheter/have family to take care about, were It makes sense to retire
@@frankcaggiano8282Entertainers tend to value fame/engagement over money. It's a big reason why people get into the entertainment industry. Not all of course but the industry attracts those types of people. Sure they could just quit and could live comfortably on their savings for the rest of their lives, but they'll be giving up their audience.
@@frankcaggiano8282except it’s not about the money for a lot of these bigger streamers, otherwise they would all just stop creating content. it’s about the audience, the community they’ve created that they feel obligated to not burn it to the ground simply bcs they don’t have to work anymore. that goes for entrepreneurs too, why do you think people like elon musk don’t just retire, it’s not jus about the money especially when you already have money.
@@Synfulz. you dont know even tho we should be happy for them they can atleast do there own thing again still steadily both had there own channels so u cant say there not still succesfull
I’ve never understood people why people seriously take time off their day to unsubscribe to someone just bc they’re not streaming every day it’s bullshit and those people are weirdos
I think Charlie is blessed in this “burnout” department because when it comes to him we all expect and enjoy random things he does. He has RU-vid Persona status where we come here for him not necessarily always what he’s doing but we know whatever it is he’s doing or talking about is gonna be a good time or interesting. Creators who’ve built their audience off one niche for extended periods of time, people expect that, if you sub for gaming tips or a certain game they play. I’d say for creators that don’t wanna be bored start your narrative early that you play what you wanna play and enjoy and if you’re entertaining enough they won’t care what you’re doing.
Exactly, i fucking love charlie because its him you know? like, it does not matter what he does, what he streams, if im watching it its because he is in it and saying whatever topics he chooses to, i love his persona, his sense of humor. Hes such a good guy
I love this about Charlie. Even if he doesn’t feel the way they do, he still understands why they feel that way, and does not invalidate their pain and or suffering. This is why we need more clones of him lol.
I feel being an engineer is easier than being a youtuber. We have flexible hours and handsome benefits because there is not a shit ton of quality engineers going around on the market. Putting yourself out there day in and day out, really think of producing meaningful storylines plus streaming is hard as hell. I could never do what you and so many other consistent top content creators do.
Don't sell yourself short, penguin probably feels similar, not many people enjoy their jobs in general. Some of us just do it so we have money to do the things we actually like doing.
Being an engineer is absolutely not easier lol. It’s so hard and stressful. The thing is each person is better at something than others. For you that’s engineering, it sounds like.
It’s a very common thing for a lot of people to pick something up they really like and they end up burning themselves out by doing it so much to the point it takes out the enjoyment of doing it
This is why I respect Ludwig's decision to give himself a time limit. I believe he said he's got 5 more years in him, then he's gonna hang up the hat and live his life. If he actually will is yet to be seen of course, but I think giving yourself a goal like that is a pretty healthy mindset for a creator to have.
Ludwig been saying 5 years since he started lmao. Don’t think he’s gonna be gone any time soon. He’s definitely in the process of moving away from streaming and towards bigger projects, but I imagine he’s gonna be around for a solid minute
Then you've got creators like Jerma. He's said that streaming is the most enjoyable thing to him, and that he intends on doing it until he physically can't anymore. I believe Vinny feels similarly.
I mean he was already surpose to retire but then he extended it. He could retire in 5 years who knows pretty sure he said it was sooner then 5 years though.
@@spencersdh1 i think jerma is a good example of this, he doesn't stream daily, sometimes he does entire month breaks, he's set up his audience to know thats how he does stuff so he probably doesn't suffer from mass unsubbing like so many other streamers do, and its clear its really something he enjoys and not just he feels forced to do
Streaming 6-8 hours will %1000 be infinitely more fun than a normal 9-5 but damn I can’t imagine how stressful it can be. Constantly thinking how to make the time spent watching you worth it to the thousands of people on your stream.
It’s actually crazy I have been watching you since high school and I’m about to turn 29 years old. Not many people can keep others entertained for that long
Same man. I just turned 29 and I remember watching Charlie when I was in high school. There are very few RU-vidrs that I can say I've kept watching for that long.
I think a major element in this is the style of gamer you are. If people only watch you for high end gameplay it would become exhausting trying to keep that up in every single game you play. However if people just watch you for for personality like Jev (not saying he isn’t good) it’s a lot easier to branch out to different games and even genres because they just want to see you.
Even if folks feel some type of way, or consider this a dream job, these people are still individuals that struggle and deserve to switch lanes just as much as anyone else does. Also, I get that creators are “lucky” I guess, I wouldn’t say that, y’all are allowed to share your experiences, fears and struggles.
That’s why I really like markiplier because he still enjoys doing videos, but has cultivated a base who will support his leaves from posting because he’s doing other projects like movies, podcasts, merch etc
This isn't "quitting", this is retiring. Even if you got your dream job it is still a job and like any job there comes a time to let in go and explore the world with the money you have made. Not everyone can be creatively passionate for 10-20+ years so for these big youtubers to even make it that far is beautiful to see and I hope retirement brings them peace.
That’s just so crazy to me because people work regular jobs and have to until the retirement age, sometimes beyond. I experience burnout from work on almost a weekly basis and it is not easy in any sense of the word. I know a lot of people would do just about anything to get even a chance to be a content creator.
People work until they're a decade from death because they have to, YTers and anyone self-employed who becomes successful are able to opt out of that and tbh if you have the money to do so only haters are going to complain that you aren't still slaving away like they are just because you no longer have to and they do.
@@SimplyCherylit's still interesting he did. he probably made like 50-100mil and couldve made probably that and even more in the future. many probably wouldve done so in his position
Valid, but people quickly adapt to their circumstances, and the whole feeling of burnout is subjective. Someone who works 6x12-hour shifts in a warehouse for low pay will understandably feel drained by their job and burn out, but someone who works 5x8-hour shifts in an office for a decent pay can still feel equally drained and also experience burnout. Doing anything you're not 100% happy to do, especially when you're disincentivised to take any time off, will take its toll on your mind and body. You will feel drained and burn out. 2 years ago I worked in an office for a shitty boss, daydreaming about getting my current job. I was tired, stressed and burnt out. I landed my current job, finally doing what I've dreamt of doing since I was a kid. It's really exciting and stimulating work, I have flexible hours and very generous holiday/vacation time. Still, I am burnt out, I am stressed and my mental health is suffering. There is no perfect job for everyone. No job is incapable of causing burnout for an individual. A farm worker or mill worker from 200 years ago would absolutely kill to have that 2023 6x12-hour warehouse job, but that doesn't mean the warehouse job isn't capable of causing burnout, obviously it is.
@@scottrobinson4611Exactly they have the luxury of leaving their job for a month cause their "just not feeling it" while the rest of us can only risk one day off before we're fired.
I've wanted to be a Minecraft RU-vidr since Minecraft basically came out. For years I worked 9-5s and wasn't able to pursue my passion. Fast-forward to my 30s and I'm trying to play catch up. I have issues because now I'm in the content sphere, I want to do more. More games, more topics, more everything, but I have given so much of my life to Minecraft I feel I can't escape. Even the past 3 years of me actually making content I still feel I want more. Transitioning into variety content I feel is necessary for me to pursue my life long passion of entertainment, but it is such a daunting task. As you said, I feel it is detrimental to longevity. This video helped me out a bunch ty for it.
Have you tried modded gameplay? I think a lot more people watch modded gameplays and would watch you (Including me) if you tried it Mods like these and mods in general can really enhance the gameplay and fun you can have while doing the job you've dreamed of doing • Better Minecraft • It takes a Pillage • Mowzie's Mobs
@@TheBigNoob_TBN I agree with this dude, it burns you out slower because you're essentially playing a new game while still playing the old one thus retaining the same fanbase. Also, your content looks dope I might check it up. Subscribed to ya. Cheers mate!
I think you should prioritize your mental health more then anything, because if you make content that you aren’t happy about, why would we be happy? If it feels like a chore, something I’m obligated to do or forced to do, then it probably won’t be good, just be transparent with your community, let them know how you feel, make polls to, give your community some options vote on the videos you would like me to make, here’s four different idea’s, you can pivot the type of content whenever you want, so trick yourself to thinking you are trapped or stuck
