It did make me wonder if that meant that any slightly masculine woman would not be acceptable lol. Probably not what he meant or I hope so, but it was an amusing choice of words.
Had a similar thought but I didn’t include masculine women and thought about men cause I’m pretty sure he is the type to get jelly over one random dude at the house this can include little kids
@@dinotime1953 oh for sure he doesn't want any men around, but I was just poking at the choice of words making it sound like it's not limited to just men.
eflaewfae oh my god this reminds me of a friends ex boyfriend from WAY back! He used to make a stink about her spending so much time with us, and later on when they broke up he started bawling and said that he couldn't compete with her "manly" woman friends. He was legitimately angry that she was friends with butch lesbians who would do stuff like help her with her car or whatever! I'd gamble $20 that the woman he's stalking has some lesbian friends who are a liiiiittle too independent without a man around that he would "randomly" take issue with her spending time with.
The contradiction was even funnier, Claiming that her looks didn't matter for him the most, then lastly resorting to calling her fat and was never attractive to him as if it was the most important thing to him, Lol
Men like this who get rejected go for the "fat" card every time from what I've seen on r/Tinder 🤣 I've been underweight my whole life and guys have still called me "fat" because it's just a fucking auto-reply to rejections. I've dated guys I initially rejected simply because they were decent enough humans for me to let a friendship develop and potentially evolve. Not saying this will always happen but my point is, as soon as you throw out the one adjective that makes most women feel like shit about themselves, any sliver of hope is obliterated, even if they aren't hurt by it. You say "well, you're fat!" and we hear "I'm a piece of shit." AND, the stupidest thing is that you just strongly assured her that she made the only right decision there was. But we're the superficial, stupid whores.
No sarcasm, she probably saved her own life by telling him no. People like this aren’t in love with the actual person, they’re in love with the _idea_ of them. And once it becomes apparent that they’re not exactly as they envisioned, things can get deadly real quick. He said he’d “tolerate” her fat, but I guarantee that it would’ve ended horribly for this woman once he uncovered more of her “undesirable” traits.
She probably made it worse by responding, that a delusional guy, you give him pinky he snaps your whole hand off. The only thing he needs to know is that authorities alerted to his threads...
The way he put, “I’m not a rapist or a creep… not going to imprison you or shackle you or enslave you to a basement,” makes it seem like he’s 100% going to do those things.
there are some things you can't give unprompted denial of without your denial immediately implying you have thought about it at length. and holding someone captive to abuse them is one of those things lol
@@Z0MBIEFLESHto his extent? Yes, he was obsessively keeping track of what she said/ did on social media for years. No sane person would go to his extent as it’s extremely dangerous especially for women. And since she didn’t even know him personally is a HUGE red flag, a complete stranger keeping track of what you said years ago? He could easily find her address and harass, even possibly stalk her.
@@Z0MBIEFLESH Yes? What he did is literally stalking. Not just keeping tabs with major events that everyone who knows her knows. He's literally stalking her social media.
I honestly would have blocked him from the very first message with no response. Especially if I recognised him as the work colleague, I said "no" to in the first place.
@@theshermantanker7043 what he just put on dysplay was fucking hilarious, I seriously doubt anyone would be afraid of a dude that talks like that. And I seriously doubt he would have the balls to kill anyone.
She must really be regretting rejecting him now; she had the chance at a dream life of being financially dependent on a guy who constantly insults and belittles her
@Dalton_Boardman2000 the worst part is at the end of 50 shades (the 1st movie) the girl actually leaves him 😭😭😭 but just like Christian (in the 2nd movie) this mf won't take no for answer and still pursues her
They've taken him to court and built a solid case against him. He had some type of mental disorder (amongst others) that basically caused him to literally believe he was in an actual relationship with her. He went to court and started narrating it as if she and him were together but somehow she didn't know it yet. It's suck af byt a lot of obsessive stalkers are like this. There was one guy that was a stalker to a famous female wrestler and thought that she dedicated her wins to him through the TV even though she had never met him in her entire life. Delusional to the highest degree.
This is why kids should learn humility as their FIRST LESSON! Even Jesus himself taught humility so there is NO excuse of religion or anything like that, NO EXCUSE to be this delusional only other than not being taught humility when one starts to walk!
I have a coworker who does the same exact thing. He meets a girl for the first time, then suddenly has a fictional family with her and becomes extremely obsessive
It's called Erotomania. It's a bit of a rarity in the world of mental illness, but it's a force to be reckoned with, because it goes beyond merely wanting a relationship with someone and enters into delusional fantasy. Quite simply, the afflicted will honestly believe that they are in a real relationship with the victim and (more often than not) will relentlessly pursue them and see signs of their "reciprocation" in the most innocuous situations. Case in point, I once heard of a man who, for privacy sakes we'll call John, (not his real name) stalked a woman that worked at the rehab clinic he was attending for drug abuse. John believed this doctor was giving him special treatment when in fact, she was treating him exactly the same as her other patients. John showed up one day with flowers and a stuffed animal. When she (naturally) declined and stated she was already married and that he was nothing more than a patient, he threw a fit and angrily accused her of lying to him, stating he believed she was madly in love with him. The conclusion being, the doctor moved to a different clinic, John was arrested for multiple charges of stalking, harassment, attempted kidnapping and is now spending time in prison. I have good reason to believe the man who wrote to OP in this video would likely, if given the chance, demonstrated similar behavior and faced the same consequence, had she not been so upfront about rejecting him.
It’s insane that every time one of these psychopaths gets rejected they go straight to shaming and personal insults to this person they’re supposedly so in love with…
“I would never force you into anything, you’d be safe with me” followed immediately by “anything less than an emphatic yes is unacceptable,” truly an insane man. Scary and sad
Yeah, he lives in his own reality, and thinks women are like pokémon he's frustratingly casting his masterball at or something. I had a similar string of messages, except mentioning more violence as she got more and more frustrated I wasn't responding to her messages, and obviously had 'blocked' her calls. I was in a coma, with no reception, and my phone was off! 😅
He sucks the souls from others, like Charlie said. He feeds off the life force of unsuspecting women after luring them into his abode with promises of material freedom
“I won’t imprison or shackle you or enslave you in the basement.” If you’re actually trustworthy, you would have absolutely zero need to write that harrowing sentence.
I haven’t watched the video yet so I don’t know the context but I would legitimately cry if someone said that. One could only assume is that they either want to or are planning on doing that
"i'm not a rapist or a creep" "i'm not going to imprison you, shackle you or enslave to a basement" that's the exact mindset of a rapist or a creep, or even a potential serial killer. this guy needs to be on a watchlist!
He absolutely has a shrine devoted to her with a hair doll on an alter and pictures of her all over the walls with himself pasted over the husband. This is "devise a deadly plot to get rid of the husband" levels of insanse. She ought to not just block this stalker. Report him.
Possible, but just as possible to be nothing more then a "nice guy" you can hear the same stories over & over again here & they or Neckbeards will act like they're either saving you from a bad relationship or that you got stolen from them, even if they just met the person & learned 2 seconds later that they have a bf or husband 😂
Not serial killer behavior. I’m assuming you know what a serial killer is. But he absolutely has the potential to be dangerous. He 100% has the capability of breaking into her house and pulling a “if I can’t have you no one can” or kidnapping her and literally chaining her to his basement and sexually assaulting her before doing worse. She needs to immediately file a restraining order.
@@zerobolt9506this kind of nonchalant attitude towards maniacs like this is what leads to women being abducted and/or killed by their obsessed stalker. You’re making light of a pretty serious situation. This is terrifying.
@@zerobolt9506No this is insane behavior, and he was stalking her. My ex was the same way after we broke up, sending me hundreds of long texts alternating between insulting me and telling me to leave my boyfriend. He was contacting me on every social platform, and he sounded exactly like this. It escalated to over a year to the point he was threatening me trying to find out where I had moved to and sending things to my family’s house
The first two paragraphs were a red flag, and then it just continued to get worse... And this man is 45 years old, so he is GROWN grown and sending text messages like this...
it´s insane to me how he brings it in the conversation or how he can even think about it this way....like, ofc I am going to pay for my own lunch I am having with my co-workers... he was probably like hey, do you wanna have lunch together, she was like sure, why not - as you do with your colleagues - and this man suddenly thinks he is on a date and this is woman of his dreams bc she paid for her food and is not with him for his money
@theblackcatgirl7013 I saw one tiktok where this guy was ranting and raving in his unfinished bedroom with a bare mattress in the background because a girl wouldn't give it up because he bought her a £30 cocktail😅
She needs to file a restraining order immediately. She might even need to consider moving and deleting all of her socials. This is one of the scariest interactions I’ve ever seen. I know it’s your job to make light of it and add some comic relief to the situation but, again, this is seriously terrifying. I feel for this girl and I hope, again, she’s gone straight to the police and filed a restraining order.
"I'm not a creep, I'm *insert every reason why you are a creep here*" I feel like if someone has to say they ain't something without actual proof that they ain't that, I'm automatically gonna assume they are what they say they ain't
@@wolfiethefurrygamer1908There are probably some sarcastic ways to implement some joke about creeps into conversation, but its a dark humor that rarely pays off, especially if you are as unhinged as that guy.
I'm not a creep, my back hurts from going prone and I'm too fat to creep across the ground. Jokes a side, most the time people have to insist they are not something, they usually are. It works with homophobes too, they insist they aren't gay all the time but then talk about being attracted to other men is normal but the choice to follow that isn't... which just betrays that they are in fact sexually attracted to other men. So it goes beyond being a creep to pretty much any form of pre-denial that somebody does.
It's the equivalent of being in the street and someone walks up. "Hey i don't want to chop your head off and make you into a mannequin" "Ehmmm... Okay"
@@alanacos6947 Oh but of course! We actually have a promo right now. Buy 3 get 4 free boxes of matches. And I am very comfortable telling you this and offering you this deal because you're totally not an unhinged arsonist!
When I was at Uni, I started receiving facebook messages from a guy that was at the same Uni. Since he was polite, we started to casually talk. He then became creepy and started to message me things like "I am so much better than your husband, let me prove it to you". I told him to stop since I would not divorce my husband for him, and he replied with:"well I can clearly try since you like the attention I gave you, otherwise you would've blocked me". I replied with "Oh yeah?", and then blocked him. It's baffling to me that some men have the audacity to say "break up with your partner and be with me instead" so casually and over a facebook message no less...
Genuinely trying to find logic here, because I know I would never respond to a random woman messaging me online for seemingly no reason other than to chat, but what made you speak to him? Common interest? Funny joke? I just can’t see why anyone with a partner would just start chatting to a random stranger online, polite or not - you don’t know him, and you have a partner already, were you really that desperate to find another male friend? Friends, family, acquaintances of course! But a random dude who happens to be from the same Uni pops up and you don’t think he’s trying to hit on you?🤔 was it your first time encountering a man in your dms? So you weren’t really aware of how degenerate and horny most men online are? ESPECIALLY if they’re the kind to pop up to random women. He’s the antagonist don’t get me wrong, but that’s crazy that you were actually looking to entertain dude and get to know him even though he’s a total stranger and you had a partner. How would you feel if you looked on your partners phone and found that he had been conversing with new and strange women who had messaged him online? Genuinely confused by this because it’s so alien to what I believe anyone would do in a relationship where they’re happy with and loyal to their partner.
@@BT37GU 1 - at first I thought he wanted some advice since there are people that ask other people for advice about uni 2 - even if you're in a relationship, do you find it strange to talk to people of opposite gender?my husband still talks with a girl from his uni and I do not find it strange since they're not interested in one another. Just because you're in a relationship that doesn't mean you can't socialize, as long as it's respectful of course.
@@CyberWarezz05bro was looking for ways to victim blame you. It's the tactic these Mfs use whenever cases like yours pop up. I've seen tweets that always blame the victim for the most insignificant reasons. They'd say stuff like "Oh, but you kept replying his messages, that's why he kept talking." "Oh, but you didn't block him, didn't move out, didn't blah blah blah, don't you value your life? No way you weren't in a situation that could have ABSOLUTELY kept you from doing those things?" "Oh, you just kept texting him and didn't move out/change numbers so you have something to post about for views." "If he kept talking to you then you obviously didn't do enough to turn him down and away!" There's always a reason to victim blame for these PoS.
@@footlong7980 Yeah you're right, and it is indeed strange since in my case I didn't even know the guy was attracted to me at first. We talked like two regular human beings! I wasn't attracted to him, I had no intention of cheating and I didn't want to lead him on. It's even worse when you realize that men don't get half of things like these if the situation was reversed...
he loses 15 minutes starting with the ugly concession; for years accepted industry practice wouldve been to lead by bringing up his small pp you hate to see it, can only conclude these 6 years left him soft
My husband has a cousin who pulled this shit on a friend of mine. We didn’t realize the extent until he started making threats and family had him baker acted…he had multiple notebooks filled with unsent letters and a disgusting search history. This is on top of texting her, calling her fucking parents presenting himself as her boyfriend…they had met ONCE. He’s on antipsychotics now, they seem to work, but I don’t associate with him whatsoever. My friend was traumatized which makes me so sad for her…now we don’t even talk much anymore, I’m guessing because it reminds her of what happened. 😢
From “I’m not a rapist and will not enslave you” to “I know where you’ve been travelling all these years” to “please bear my child”… Absolute freaking creep 💀💀
I love how he assumed she was rejecting him because of his looks then immediately bashed her for her looks when she rejected him like what are you on about man 😭
These people are the first to be shallow If she made the shit decision to leave her boyfriend for this pet rock he would have started berating her for her looks and how she could be better since he’s doing all this for her and her hobbies Disgusting
"You would learn to love it-" In all of the messages, this was what gave me the shivers. Nothing says complete disregard of a woman's autonomy more blatantly than these words. It's when he went from an annoying creep to a genuine threat. I was almost relieved when he started calling her fat again.
When the mask slipped he really showed how manipulative he was being, because after all that talk about how he accepted her despite the extra weight she gained, how he loved her for her soul, his own admissions about his physical shortcomings, and all those accusations of her being superficial, he still revealed that he expected her to lose all that weight once she got married to him.
"I would appreciate you taking this seriously and giving me a date and time I can come collect your items and move you into my house" actually insane sentence 💀 it's like she doesn't have a choice it's just 'give me a date when I'm taking you away'
@@Cadmann I gua-ran-fucking-tee he would beat the shit out of her for the mildest of annoyances or unchangeable things too. "After all I gave you, you are still not losing weight?" or some other unhinged reasoning. He is obsessed with being the provider so he can have total control over her life, so she can never leave. What is she going to do with the mountains of money he apparently has? Probably forced to stay inside and wash the dishes. Like pre 1850's women's life. Fucking terrifying.
Literally threatening to abduct her. I don’t believe prison or police actually solve anything, they only make things worse, but in this guys case it’d probably be the only thing keeping him away.
"I didn't know you were so shallow"... bruh what? surely a shallow person would be the sort to actually say yes to this creep's offer? he's calling her shallow when she is quite literally proving that she isn't.
Because that's how those degenerates works. They hit you with "you're so shallow" crap when they are meet with rejection and can't handle it like a grown ass person.
The fact that he has to specify he’s not a rapist and won’t imprison her means he’s thought about those things before, almost like he’s convincing HIMSELF he wouldn’t do those things
I don't think so honestly. As a man I'm constantly hearing about how terrifying it is to be a woman, how every man is a creep and a rapist and an abuser and blah blah blah. There is an inherent fear in men to even look at a woman now lest we be labeled as a creep or something, and if we're friendly it is automatically assumed we have sexual intentions. This is publically talked about in men's spaces. I think it's just a qualifier he feels he needs to use just for being a man and is indicative of deeper societal issues. Am I defending him? Not necessarily. I think he's just being honest. Perhaps too honest, and too forward in a way that is not PC or socially acceptable. Perhaps he has some challenges mentally and doesn't quite understand how to interact with others socially. However, after his initial proposal was denied he should have respected that boundary and ended up making an ass of himself. Edit: I was lacking context. I'll admit I didn't watch the video before commenting, my mistake. Didn't know this was an ongoing issue and didn't see the part with all the stalky shit. Yeah the guy is a fucking psychopath. However I still stand by what I said. It sucks being a man who wants a serious intimate relationship in 2024.
@@yyyahwehhh There's a freaking reason why women are terrified of men and you just watched a video that's proof of that. It's weird to try and make men the victim here. And yeah it's not all men but it's a lot of them and it's smarter to be wary of all of them because it's hard to tell. You guys are afraid to be labeled a creep while women are afraid of being physically harmed. I'd rather hurt someone's feelings than possibly be dead. I'm at least glad we can agree that he should have respected her boundaries.
@@yyyahwehhh Wait for a few minutes to find an Incel defending another Incel. You already talk like you are a creep. "Deeper social issues"? No, unhinged weirdo issues, ofc they are talked about in "men's spaces" how else are they gonna rip you off your money, because you can't cope with reality and need justification from other Incels, blaming the woman because sHe cAnT uNdErStAnD hOw mUcH yOu LovE hEr.
@@floridflesh Read the rest of his comments. He’s similar to the guy from the video we just watched. I hope he gets the help he needs and can get out of this state of delusional before he scares someone himself ❤️
@@yyyahwehhhnothing makes people question it you diddle kids than making a song called "don't diddle little kids" Or in this case, nothing makes you look more like a deranged serial killer than saying "I totally will not imprison and rape you pinkie promise" I have ADHD, my wife has autism, most of my friends have either one of those or both, yet all of us manage to not make people feel like a serial killer is after them lmao
@COGNITOPSYCHOSIS Hey [Name], ive been thinking about you ever since we became roommates. Would you be interested in showering with me? Don't worry, im not a rapist or anything.
This man has the same energy as a cartoon villain saying “marry me or your kingdom/family/friends/true love will die” and flipping his cape over his shoulder
Man: -buys lunch Means hes hungry. Woman: -buys lunch Means she's desperately trying to prove to everyone around her that she too can be independent and prove so by buying lunch.
No he’s right, as women we don’t feel hunger or need sustenance to live. We absolve all our physical needs with our tears, which is why we cry so much. Tears are our life force. Anything “human” that we do like eating food or drinking water is just a performance that we carefully plan out to send subliminal messages and influence the men in our vicinity
Fr, majority of her response was that she was content with her life and wouldn't dump it for a fantasy dream made up in someone else's head and all he got was "Breedmare"😭
@@supergeniuswithattitude1432 a lot of ppl see women as just baby making machines, so what she means by not wanting to be a breed mare is that she doesn't want to just exist as someone made to give birth. While motherhood is a wonderful job in and of itself, a lot of women don't want to just be a mother.
"Leave your relationship because I have money for you" "Oh my god women are so shallow." The regressive character arc in these few paragraphs rival the fall from grace of Don Giovanni himself.
We gotta follow Jesus for a sound mind. Exodus 20:17 NKJV [17] “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
Im glad you do this type of content, your audience is mostly male and even though most guys know this behavoir is unhinged, it probably makes a few "nice guys" self reflect.
"im not a rapist" "anything other than a emphatic yes will not be accepted" wait till this guy finds out what forcing yourself on someone who said no makes you
This guy needs to be locked up. The fact that guys like this can say these things even after court orders and still be able to walk free when there’s so many cases of guys like these actually murdering both woman and their lover or stalking them is asinine. Wtf is our system doing.
That was an amazing first response from her. You have to acknowledge the creepy guy immediately so they don’t escalate but then you have to know what their wall of text was about so you not knowing won’t escalate them either 🤦♀️
“I have read over the proposal and would like to make one amendment. In subsection 8 IIV-my most desirable locations to travel- A *veterinarian clinic is absent and needs to be added to the top of the list. *this trip to be taken to put me down immediately
@@jaderyan8579SAME OMG! It’s so icky! In fact, once a guy did it to me and I literally just said “I know you’re just saying that because you’re butthurt, you can’t fool me, every single worthless man pulls this BS you’re just a carbon copy, I’ve dealt with 1000 of you and I know that if I was so hideous you’d never have been head over heels for me in the first place” and the guy just straight up ADMITS “Yeah you’re right, I do think you’re pretty, I’m sorry 🥺” And I basically said “You’re pathetic, but you’re slightly better than the others because you’re at least you’re honest” and blocked him. He was probably new to the whole incel negging thing because guys who do this shit for a long time are never honest about it, so hopefully he grew out of it (but probably no)
@@jaderyan8579 That's just boys, most of them will grow up and realize how stupid it is to do that. Unfortunately, I still know a lot of people who grew up and still act like this and it's pathetic. I blame this on society for failing to raise a generation of men and now it's exposing children to some of the most disgusting and dangerous people who hide behind the mask of pride to terrorize and hurt children. Things gotta change soon or else a lot more of these people will grow up thinking it's okay to say and do this kind of stuff to women.
Can we acknowledge that this guy is what red pill looks like in real life. They’re intolerable on their podcasts as it is but this is the influence they have on men.
As a woman who had to get a restraining order I feel for her. We are always nice because we don’t know what will happen if we aren’t nice. It’s terrifying
Mr. Un-creativity strikes again with fake message posts, the most brain rot content currently on RU-vid. And when I say strike I mean falls for these fake messages and believe them like he was born yesterday😂.
The "Fine, I didn't want you anyway, you're fat/ugly/whatever" is a common retort for these fragile types. A few times when I've encountered this behavior I've responded with something like, "yeah, you're right, I'm not a good choice for you, bye!" Their brains can't compute it when I don't melt into a puddle of insecurity at (what they think are) their scathing and devastating insults lol
"sounds like you need to work on your taste in women" is mine my dad always taught me that whether or not someone finds me attractive is their problem so it's never bugged me
And still, after her clear communication, people would call it her fault for not communicate right. you can never communicate right with these people and i hate the people who are blaming these victims
Hey, didn’t you read he has NEVER done this for any other single woman? Yes he is delusional to the power of 10 but u should also know how to read, if he actually already had experience in hurting someone I doubt he would use such unhinged tactics which frankly alarm other people with a minimal sense of survival. It is wrong of you to underestimate him, as he also (unfortunately) possess intellect. Had he already been an offender he would’ve probably concealed it better and came up with a better plan. (I sound crazy af sending this but fr I won’t tie you down in a basement 😂)
Stalkers are terrifying, and this is the same shit I've seen for years. In my twenties (I'm in my 40's), I had some online dude that was part of a forum I was a moderator on for gaming become obsessed with me and do the same kind of shit. He kept sending me porn and asking if it was me. He waffled back and forth with either long, desperate rants declaring his love or hateful novels about what a horrible whore I was for ignoring him. The reason I have this stupid username is literally because he STILL follows me online, and it's a random name from some name generator so I would be able to hide from him. I'm married with a whole ass life and still some random dude from my past is trying to keep tabs on me, 24 years later. That's how powerful the fantasy/sickness is for stalkers.
@@user-wz7rn7sm6mmaybe if you struggle with formal logic? you're arguing against something they never said or implied. their statement was quite literally just that they never expected they could become as uncomfortable as they did by a stranger they have no connection with. if they would have had a connection, it would have been even more uncomfortable. extremely simple statement to understand.
Psychopathy is common in the upper echelons of society. Who is to say they operate like us at all when a core part of their humanity is biologically missing.
Oh my god how terrifying. I thought this was like a 20 year old weirdo but the guy is over 40? That’s nuts. How sad that there are actually people like this in the world.
@@alexisantoniotorres4608they are. There is much worse, unfortunately, but I also find them really interesting, would like to open their brain to check on its various regions and see what actually happened
I would much rather eat an orange, grape, apple, mango, strawberry, kiwi, and banana (which I am all deathly allergic to)(exaggerating) rather than have a creep like this stalking my life.
My appendix surgery where I have to stay in the hospital for day and unable to walk for while because I didn’t go the doctor fast because i though I have a stomach virus not that it brusted seem like a blessing compared to that
My guy forgot it’s not 1150 CE and he’s not the Duke of Aquitaine trying to marry the daughter of a lesser noble already betrothed to an impoverished knight
