Hunt Showdown: Updated Trait Tier List (January 2021) 

The only time I’ve ever seen Dauntless used effectively is when a team was burning my teammate and they sat on top of his body and defused every choke bomb we threw at him. It was a galaxy brain play

Combining resilience and necromancer can be very powerful in some situations playing with a team you trust.being able to revive a friend from afar with full health can really turn the tables of a losing fight.

I personally found necromancer quite helpful especially while fighting around the bush. Yesterday during one game my team was ambushed by another team between chapel and stillwater. Both of my teammates were downed but their bodies were covered by bushes. I killed one hunter and injured another, threw a chaos bomb as a cover, and use the nacromancer to revive both of my teammate, then it was an easy 3v2.

I personally think that ghoul is pretty good, you're right that it's not very helpful in fights, but not every trait I carry has to be combat focused, having ghoul is just quality of life improvement, because then I don't have to worry about using healing items as much

Good tier list, however I would have put necro in a or maybe even s tier. It is amazing to use In combat.

Ghoul rocks for healing on the run, combined with Greyhound and Determination it makes large scale repositioning a dream.

Thx for investing so much time to give us such a good idea of everything. I love this channel cause I started to play Hunt much much more since I've been watching you. I always thought that silent killer would be much better. So thanks for making me aware of this fact with the heavy melee prep sound.

"Dauntless is D tier" *GUNSMACKK WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*

You gotta look at combos of traits tho, because having resilience and a partner having necromancer has definitely been super helpful in the past

For Reference later. look at my comment after u watch the video. General- D-Tier: Decoy supply, dauntless, Vigilant, Tomahawk. C-Tier: Adrenaline, Conduit, Ghoul, Poacher, Vulture. B-Tier: Hornskin, Resilience, Salveskin, Gatorlegs, Silent Killer, Bloodless, Mithrdatist, Necromancer, Bulwark A-Tier: Determination, Greyhound, Packmule, Physician, Whispersmith, Frontiersman, Beastface, Kiteskin. S-Tier: Lightfoot, Serpent, Pitcher, Doctor Setup Based Traits- D-Tier: Steady Aim, Bolt Seer, Iron Devastator C-Tier: Steady Hand B-Tier: Fanning, Levering, Ambidextrous A-Tier: Iron Repeater, Iron Sharpshooter, Deadeye Scopesmith, Marksman Scopesmith, Sniper Scopesmith, Bulletgrubber. S-Tier: Quatermaster, Bolt Thrower

The tier list is well described and put into their sections for well thought out reasons. All i would change about the video is when talking about the certain traits you have footage of use of it playing. Good work again guys!

Necromancer is a perk best used when slipping from a full engagement to stealth engagements. It also works wonders when there is a multiple team fight going on. Players will tend to focus on the team currently firing upon them, giving a stealthy necro time to revive their team in the background while completely safe themselves. This can quickly turn a fight in your favor if you utilize the chaos to your advantage. That being said, necro is only useful if the enemy team no longer is paying attention. It is pretty situational, which justifies its position as a lower tier perk. That said, it is powerful when it does come into play. I share your sentiment with fanning and levering. Too many times I've been screwed over by RNG to take these anymore. The times it does work is amazing, but for every time it works, there's five failures between. Levering is a little bit better than fanning however, as the new musket bayonet winny has a really tight spread and gives it a lot more consistency and makes it a pretty viable choice within 10 meters. Again though, it's much more consistent to just fire two aimed shots. I agree with you on Ghoul. It just saves a little bit of time, at a very high cost of points when you could've taken two better perks for the same cost. Those perks being Greyhound and Determination. I disagree with your stance on Gator Legs. For only two points, water becomes much less threatening. That's HUGE. Especially depending on which map you are currently on and where you are at. Gator legs is just plain good, speeds you up substantially, and makes you quieter through all water. This is BIG. Gator Legs goes up in A, and only serves to improve your speed across the map. I've used Dauntless once to good effect. Just once. And it happened recently. A fuse was cutting off vision, and therefore, one of our firing lines during a fight at Fort Carmick. I used Dauntless to defuse it, opening up a firing line for one of my two buddies, which gave me the cover I needed to get close enough for my shotgun. It only worked because of it being nighttime. My word Dauntless is so bad. Especially since your first reaction should always be to get away from explosives. Deadly every single one of em and they can be cooked. For the rest of the perks, I'd stand by the decisions and reasons behind their placement. This is a solid tier list and has good reasoning. The rule I have with Hunt is to be as quick and as quiet as possible. The quicker you are, and the quieter you are, the more deadly you become. That's not saying take suppressed weaponry. I'm saying if the enemy doesn't hear you repositioning, then they are left open. A shotgun user can be baited into the knife if they don't hear it come out. The key to Hunt is getting quicker, without sacrificing your stealth. The S and A tier perks tend to reflect that. Speeding you up, or making you quieter. Quality tier list. I really hope they notice this, and take action to improving some traits. Some of them are so useless that them just existing hurts the rolls for Hunters and Legendary Hunters. Nothing feels worse than getting Bolt Seer, Dauntless, and Decoy supply on a Legendary Hunter. Pain incarnate.

Gator Legs Greyhound Beastface Okay what points do I have left?

12:05 i would say 80% of player cant tell at all what weapon you pull out by the sound :D

I find Necromancer incredibly useful for medium to long range builds when playing with randoms, you can sometimes get revives without exposing yourself if the body is in a place impossible for a safe revive.

Ascendance, thanks for the video - appreciate the effort and some really useful information in there! Here's the full list of traits but watch the video because Ascendance gives great insight into his tier ranking. S tier (14:41): Lightfoot Serpent Pitcher Doctor S tier (weapon-specific) (23:39): Quartermaster Bolt thrower A tier (10:02): Determination Greyhound Packmule Physician Whispersmith Frontiersman Beastface Kiteskin A tier (weapon-specific) (22:18): Iron repeater Iron sharpshooter Deadeye scopesmith Marksman scopesmith Sniper scopesmith Bulletgrubber B tier (6:25): Hornskin Resilience Salveskin Gatorlegs Silent killer Bloodless Mithridatist Necromancer Bulwark B tier (weapon-specific) (19:53): Fanning Levering Ambidextrous C tier (4:11): Adrenaline Conduit Ghoul Poacher Vulture C tier (weapon-specific) (19:26): Steady hand D tier (2:39): Decoy supply Dauntless Vigilant Tomahawk D tier (weapon-specific) (17:19): Steady aim (PC only) Bolt seer Iron devastator

Something I'd like to pin onto ambidexterous. 'It's nice, but [dual wieling] is rather mediocre.' I have relied and died on dual pistols too often to actually consider them viable. At this point they're just extra ammo for my carbine or avtomat or an 'oh shit, oh fuck' option when my winfield doesn't have levering and I bust out the suppressed nagants hoping for a miracle.

Glad you're going back through this since all of the changes that have been made! Great vid as always

I really like the layout of the video! Very good stuff!

I'm actually glad you went over why you put whisper smith in A tier. I always put it on a similar level as Silent killer as a compliment to it. I never thought of the silent throwable pull out. Just bringing that up made me think of all the times I got away from a frag or a hellfire just because I heard someone pull it out! I'll definitely consider whispersmith more often especially with my throwable use.

Time codes for fellow hunters: *Broad-spectrum traits* _S Tier:_ • Doctor (17:03) • Pitcher (16:23) • Serpent (15:29) • Lightfoot (14:52) _A Tier:_ • Kiteskin (14:10) • Beastface (13:25) • Frontiersman (13:10) • Whispersmith (11:44) • Physician (11:04) • Packmule (10:52) • Greyhound (10:34) • Determination (10:14) _B Tier:_ • Bulwark (9:38) • Necromancer (9:14) • Mithridatist (8:55) • Bloodless (8:33) • Silent Killer (7:53) • Gatorlegs (7:30) • Salveskin (7:05) • Resilience (6:45) • Hornskin (6:30) _C Tier:_ • Vulture (6:07) • Poacher (5:31) • Ghoul (4:50) • Conduit (4:34) • Adrenaline (4:16) _D Tier:_ • Tomahawk (3:48) • Vigilant (3:25) • Dauntless (3:05) • Decoy Supply (2:46) *Loadout specific traits* _S Tier:_ • Bolt Thrower (23:58) • Quartermaster (23:48) _A Tier:_ • Bulletgrubber (23:03) • Iron Repeater (22:28) • Iron Sharpshooter (22:28) • Deadeye Scopesmith (22:28) • Marksman Scopesmith (22:28) • Sniper Scopesmith (22:28) _B Tier:_ • Ambidextrous (22:09) • Levering (21:02) • Fanning (19:56) _C Tier:_ • Steady Hand (19:30) _D Tier:_ • Iron Devastator (18:48) • Bolt Seer (18:23) • Steady Aim (17:30)

So happy you got to this! I remember chatting with you about it on the stream! Like most if not all the picks and cant wait to give a few a go that I hadn't before. Especially the greyhound determination bundle lol

Before I started watching the video, I thought to myself: "Serpent better be S tier." I was not disappointed.

I'm really surprised that You rated ghoul perk soo low. If You considered it healing option You are right it is pretty bad, but I like to think about it more like packmule or frontiersman. It allows You to save a lot of time on searching for medkits. It is specifically useful for hunters with small health bar firs or for newer players that get hurt by ai more often. I can completely ignore looking for meds on compound because I know that I'll be able to heal myself easily on the way to next one. It is good time and resources saving perk imo.

I think the utility of Decoy Supply is a bit more than just "you get your decoys back if you've run out." In a situation where you're down two decoys, two first aid uses, and two consumables, and you come to a toolbox, the last thing you're wanting to pick up is decoys. Decoy Supply means you can grab decoys from an ammo crate, which frees up the valuable toolbox use for something much more important!

Honestly necromancer might be my favourite perk. It adds great layers to combat and is super fun when it works in a play. Also I’d argue dauntless isn’t useless as you can reliably defuse enemy choke bombs when they try to put out their partner which can be almost a game changer. That move has won me many fights

thanks for the update! one of the most succinct yet deep hunt creators on youtube

Great video! I often take lengthy breaks from this game and seeing this video and what has changed over the last 6months is pulling me back in to play again! Very good work :)

yea but Tomahawk has the pinnacle of gaming in addition to the trait, THERE'S AN ACHIEVMENT YOU CAN'T GET WITHOUT IT I would also say that steady aim is useable ONLY on the sparks sniper since the sway is intense on sniper scopes and you only get one shot

That final clip of the crosbow holy shit does it make the weapon look good huh

I like how the footage shows him using fanning and levering effectively while saying it’s not that good.

Video: you are experiencing high ping issues. *Pauses to buffer mid gun fight* Me: stress and blood pressure rises instinctually.

Used to think Silent Killer was useless but I swear they made the melee grunts louder a few updates ago, think it's good as Lightfoot.

Dauntless can be pretty fun to put out choke bombs so they have to actually fight you to save their buddy.

I was playing Hunt on stream last night with a friend. I turned a corner to continue fighting a team that we were winning against and I got picked off by a third party who was using the Nitro Express. My friend ran outside the compound of where we were, not too far away from where I went down, and picked me up using Necromancer. We promptly left that lobby to get away from the scary man with the elephant gun.

swap necro and serpent! i find necro far more useful

100% agree that Lightfoot is absolutely wicked. Minor stalemates in gunfights, where people are crouch walking around building, looking for slow sneaky flanks. The vault, to sneakily third party and enter compounds is so helpful (at least when you dont rush) and after using lightfoot alot, you REALLY notice how loud ladders are. ladder flanks become Risky God Tier options and getaways

Just got into Hunt in the last month, and this is an excellent video. Happy I found your channel!

Thank you so much for *ALL* your tips 4FS!, I'm pretty much stuck playing solo as I work weird hours and sleep the same(if at all), I took *MONTHS* to decide to buy Hunt at all, but have no regrets, even though I am mostly still a sweaty solo jumping at shadows(I HAVE only had the game 4 days, so yeah I need to chill!), I had the privilege of playing with some *EXTREMELY PATIENT!, extremely skilled!* and lovely guys last night(met them on the discord, which is great!) Who helped (A LOT!) to get me my first two bounties(or I may have fluked one before) and taught me *SO* much, even though I was like a frickin' anchor on their team!, I mostly play EU and find that when there're no matches in my area in the EU, my secondary pick - US (east) players are *far* more likely to seal club me and chase my poor solo ass around and erm... (what's the word? oh yeah!) *HUNT* me *DOWN* whereas *SOME* EU teams will leave the poor sweaty rabbit alone lol!, but lately, with your invaluable tips and the realisation that, permadeath or not, it IS just a game, so feck it!, get stuck in!, this traits list has been invaluable, even now in near the end of 2022, thank you again, you rock, I like your sense of humour and vids, maybe I'll see you (briefly, as I die lol) on the Bayou!

Something I never saw mentioned in videos or comments is that you can actually use the full "Adrelanine Shot" sometimes after the 2nd clue or once you pickup the bounty and leave the compound, and that way it will save you 7pts of traits from not having to pickup "Greyhound + Determination". Sure it's just 10min but usually you will have enough with it as most of gunfights will be over by then and it doesn't take that long to extract too so unless there is some major camping, most match don't last 30min+. It is also extremely useful if you have a main melee weapon and want to cut through PVE faster to travel around more easily and even better if u have "Silent Killer" too. Sure grunts still make noise from the trigger and death but still quieter than doing a highly distinctive melee which easily reveals your position.

Vulture is a higher level solo pick for me. That one loot can make a difference for a frag bomb in the midst of a fight.or extra money is nice if youre full on supplies. Great list!

Awesome video! Maybe some traits I'd raise or lower one tier on the chart but I consider this extremely accurate.

A thing i REALLY think you should have mentioned about kiteskin is that with the lightfoot you can drop from further with NO SOUND, i usually use both since they are sooo good together.

As a new player with pretty bad aim, Fanning and Levering are my absolute S-Tier traits.

Dauntless being able to defuse chokes and only costing one perk point makes it a lot higher than youd think, being able to burn someone without worrying about chokes is so nice

That dank crossbow wipe tho

Dauntless has one very specific mean use, the ability to turn off smoke grenades. Ive seen people cancel smoke grenades meant to extinguish burning players. Very mean! ;)

Dude, some of the clips in the background are so good :D

"This is also why certain players with many many hours in the game really don't like all the spam, but that's another discussion..." *Background gameplay shows 4FS blasting players with Avtomat* 😂 (Single clicks to be fair. Just made me laugh at the timing. Great video!)

I've used necromancer plenty of times, it's extremely useful in messy compound fights, and I have more than once got a revive I wouldn't have been able to that won us, or help us win, a fight.

Steady Aim is for sniper scopes only imo where the zoom really amplifies the sway. It's a perk for "true" sniping. I'd take Steady Aim over bolt seer, iron devastator, and decoy resupply.

Great list! Like many in the comments, I've made some fond memories with Necromancer, so would rank it a little higher myself. I think it's a great idea to split the general traits from the loadout-specific ones. As someone who only started playing a few weeks ago, your videos have helped me a lot. Love the content, keep it up! Subbed:).

Conduit is so immensly underrated when you want to rush a banish it enables permasprinting and rushing clues straight into the boss lair without needing to use a stamina shot when paired with a silenced weapon you wont have to stop for anything you gotta be THE FAST

To me, knowing stuff is more fun than playing the game for some reason. now I'm interested if there is videos talking about map and how to approach them....

For me personally I only mind 1 thing. Greyhound beeing put above Gatorlegs. Greyhound allows you to sprint longer. Simply take a stamina boost and sprint forever. I dont know if its worth beeing put so high. Gator legs on the other hand gives you more options overall. Sneaking up by the reduced sound. Or crossing a river before the enemys react duo to that high movement. Its just so mutch more versatile ingame. Edit: You dont even die when walking of Ford without Kiteskin.

Packmule's value increases the better you are. Combos perfectly with doctor and pitcher. As long as you're getting kills it doesn't matter how many squads come at you, you'll never get worn down with lack of meds, tools or consumables. It's an absolute S tier if you plan to run the gauntlet/server wipe every game.

I love your videos

That crossbow gameplay at the end was juicy

Thanks man I enjoy your long discussions about this game So don’t stop, please keep them coming 👊🏽🤠👍🏽

I like adrenaline because if you get revived then immediately rushed, you have stamina to 1. run away or 2. melee

Agree with everything except for necromancer and resilience, S tier pick for my teammates

I have been getting alot of use out of Necromancer and Serpent. Serpent is pretty self explanatory. Great for avoiding ambushes, stealing bounties and also locating targets once the bounty is found. Necromancer though has been great for a few reasons. 1. Alot of times other players don't guard bodies and instead flame them if they feel the need. This makes it easy for me to revive my team mate from safety as we often travel spread out with one of us going loud as the other sneaks in closer using the sound as cover. 2. Even if they flame the body I can still revive my team mate. They aren't on fire when they get up and if need be I can whip a choke bomb at his corpse which also alerts me to campers by his body. 3. It doesn't even take half of a bar so it is a low cost high reward solution for my problems in most cases. 4. I have revived my team mate directly behind the enemy and he shot them in the back at point blank which was hilarious. XD It has its ups and downs. While not essential I like to have it for my sort of scout/support builds along with Serpent. (Although Serpent has been getting into all of my builds over time) I almost forgot,what are your hopes for the next update? :)

Hundred hands but anyways for Levering and Fanning their viability rests in the guns you run with them. A large Winnie can be just as accurate 30m out with hip fire as ads but you typically would use it to instead get wall bangs or punish Melee/shotty push. Fanning has the same applications and on chain/conversion does relatively well at head shooting 15-20 meters out.

I feel like you’re not giving dauntless a fair shot here. Stopping choke bombs from putting out burning bodies is pretty valuable for 1 upgrade point. Perhaps situational at first glance, but no less situational than iron sharpshooter, bullet grubber, or bolt thrower yes? You placed Bulwark in B tier for being able to tank Bomb Lance Harpoons. You wouldn’t call that VERY situational?

Very useful since I'm new, thanks.

That nade suicide XD

"Dauntless is D tier" *Psychoghost* allow me to introduce myself

Awesome description of all the traits and uses. Your vids help Soo much 👍

My thoughts in tidbits Decoy Supply is a great perk solely because it restores decoy fuses. Being able to chuck those things like tic tacs really helps clear buildings, even multiple times per match. Ghoul is a better Hornskin yet you rated it higher? SMH. Also, as someone who loves the dusters (as you know) I have never failed a one punch because of hornskin. Why? Because nobody takes it because it’s a mediocre perk. Bloodless and Salveskin are both C tier in my opinion. They’re nice to have but aren’t that useful. Necromancy can be insane. You can make a lot of cheeky plays that’d be impossible otherwise. It depends on your playstyle of course so A-B seems fair. I hate that Bulwark lets you survive a bomb lance stick. I consider that a skill shot so to be punished because your opponent took a trait is stupid imo. This is just me grumbling rather than disagreeing. Also, bulwark has gotten a soft buff. With the recent nerfs to frags and the buff to concertina, explosives have become a better option. If you walk off the roof of fort, you will survive, kiteskin or not. For bolt seer, maybe you can see bolts on targets but if they bandage, it falls out. Yep, it’s bad. Hold up, hold up. Did you just say Bulletgrubber is B tier for bornheim? The ammo guzzling bornheim? The one that constantly annihilates your ammo supply without bulletgrubber? K...

What Crytex needs to fix is that awareness meter thing of mobs. It's really having a bad impact on the gameplay.

Silent Killer - A (for playing fast paced battles, campers won't hear our knives from far away) Necromancer - A Fanning - A (not comparable with Bornheim, Officer, etc... it's amazing for CQC) Lightfoot - B (i'm moving all the time, so i'm making noise always, it's very good just for campers ) Kiteskin - Meh

14:34 You will live from the fall off of Fort even without kite skin. You'll survive with ~20hp

Necromancer was actually very handy for this one situation I had. I was 1V3. Both my teammates died and I was able to clutch the fight. Taken two hunters down with my double legendary caldwell conversion in Larson's train station. I think the third hunter panicked and threw a choke bomb on his teammates body. So i took the opportunity and went upstairs to revive him through the wall. cuz he was outside and I needed to revive him before the hunter revived his teammates. Then I went to finish him off.

Love this, thanks. The only thing I'd disagree with is Necro. In duos Necro is...okay. But in Trios? In trios it feels like a godsend. It's easy for an enemy team to camp one body. It's easier to 1v2 an enemy team. But in trios if you have two teammates go down, reviving one is almost always doable. It feels, I wouldn't say "essential", but I'd personally put it in S tier for trios. It has turned many a hopeless, early fight lost team fight into a win for me.

Fanning and Levering belong to A tier. Increasing fire rate is huge in a game full of slow firing weapons and it allows you to fight more effectively at different ranges. A winnie without levering is ok when fighting at

I'm glad to see that the water reflects look like crap on other ppls computers as well =p

3:14 There is literally a Average Joe video 3 days ago from this videos publication showing him putting out a frag bomb. Clutch vid.

I would like to make a point for Decoy Supply. It can resupply Decoy Fuses as well, not just Decoys and Blankfire Decoys. So that could potentially allow you to use Decoy Fuses a LOT more. With this in mind, I'd personally bump it at least into C tier, or maybe even higher, if we're talking about specific loadouts.

I love Combining serpent necro and conduit it makes me feel like a wizard.Favorite use was when I revived a friend he dropped the bounty holder I picked the bounty up and was able to see the guy above me and dropped him. Like yeah its loud but when there's 3 teams duking it out people can't react.

Thank you very much for that ranking! For me, as a new player, it helped me alot!

My List: S: Lightfoot / Packmule / Serpent / Pitcher / Doctor A: Determination / Gatorlegs / Silent Killer / Greyhound / Physician / Beastface B: Ghoul / Poacher / Resilience / Salveskin / Bulwark / Whispersmith / Frontiersman / Kiteskin C: Dauntless / Adrenaline / Conduit / Vulture / Hornskin / Bloodless / Mithridadist / Necromancer D: Decoy Supply / Vigilant / Tomahawk

I think you're underestimating Gatorlegs. This trait is not just powerful in occasional moments. It allows you to travel vast distances through large bodies of water, pretty much as fast as if you were running on land. I've had enemy teams in the bayou get away from me extremely easily because they had Gatorlegs and my party did not. They gained 2 compounds worth of distance on us so we couldn't possibly catch up anymore. For only 2 points, water stops being an issue. I prioritize this trait over Greyhound now. Sure, it only works in water, but you're going to come across water in basically every game you play. Especially on the old map.

Awesome video! You should do a legendary skin tier list lol

Depends on your build greyhound and gator legs is my base of every build my favorite build are silcent killer light foot whisper smith beast face and may go vulture and packmule for stealthy marathon plus farming experience

8:30 it is a stealth perk too, because players yelling while melee attacking a lot louder than just zomby death noises

I agree with most of your opinions, but I honestly would put Fanning and Necromancer into A Tier instead. There are alternatives to Fanning, sure, but even a very expensive Dolch shoots much slower, and at closer range the RNG does not matter usually (with the shooting speed). Especially Conversion Pistol but also Pax can be beasts with Fanning. Also in general they are more forgiving than e.g. medium slot shotguns: If enemy turns sideways against your Romero Handcannon, you are fucked (because arm likely shot)... with Fanning you got 5+ Bullets more to balance that out. Even for an Uppercut it is useful because it majorly increases your firing speed at close range where the RNG matters a lot less. Necromancer allowed myself and team mates so many "ambushes" trough revived team mates (healing is for p****es), and even if that fails one enemy will be occupied by covering the body instead of pushing or alike. On top of that you can stop burning at positions you could not reach with a Choke Bomb otherwise. Overall I can see them not being S Tier, but I think A Tier is justified. Obviously I would like your answer regarding that. (Keep in mind I did not invest 30mins to create perfect argumentation for this.)

Dauntless should maybe give thrown enemy explosives (barring the frag because no fuse) a slight glow in dark sight maybe? But that would be way too clunky to be used practically, and I feel like giving fuseless explosives a glow outside of dark sight with dauntless might be a bit busted. Perk definitely needs revised though.

Conduit is a decent passive buff to have if you remember that you have it. Personally it’s a B tier because it saves a lot of time and risk scrounging for medkits, especially in or just after fights over clues, or just the little stamina boost to get to the next destination faster.

Silent killer does reduce the range you can hear melee attacks as the players noise carries much further than the grunts death.

Super sic. Thanks for the list

Necromancer s tier. My team got wiped last week but right before I died I necromanced my buddy and he hid in a bush. After the enemy team gave up looking for his “dead” body to loot. He revived us and then we went and wiped that team that killed us.

*Tier List: Broad use* *Specific* *S* *S* - Doctor - Quartermaster - Pitcher - Bolt Thrower - Serpent - Light foot *A* *A* - Kiteskin - Bullergrubber - Beastface - All scopesmith + Irons - Frontiersman - Whispersmith - Physician - Packmule - Greyhound - Determination *B* *B* - Bulwark - Fanning - Necromancer - Levering - Mithridatist - Ambidextrous - Bloodless - Silent Killer - Gator Legs - Salveskin - Resilience - Hornskin

19:10 is a perfect example of why youre underrating levering. Two enemies in close proximity and partial cover, fully loaded winfield. Should have been a no brainer and two easy kills. The trait is definitely only good for close range, but its powerful as hell, and i would argue extremely reliable due to the sheer number of bullets you can spam

Oh can use dauntless on choke bombs btw. People rarely cook those so it’s possible to actually dauntless them

Psychoghost found out how usefull dauntless acually can be. You can put out choke bombs and usually people don't cook them so you can force enemy Hunters to engage you. (still would not take it or consider it usefull personally tho. But it's not useless)

Necromancer is easily A or even S Tier for me. I won soooo many fights just because of Necromancer... Even lost some fights because the enemy had Necromancer. But it's not an easy trait to use i give you that. Nice to see that you like whispersmith too! I really like to take it a lot. Specially if use loadouts where I am close to my enemy... and well... cause of my playstyle im often close to my enemy.

Well, at least you gave a dissclaimer that this is YOUR tier list and not overall 100% true.

Love the list, but I feel that you gave steady aim a rough assessment. Sure, if you flick aim or just play scopes aggressively (i.e. quick scoping) it’s pointless but I feel that snipers especially are extremely difficult to use without it. Tracking is nigh impossible without it on the longer scope variants, as they sway like a ship at sea, and I play on PC

I find great success with fanning, but I use it exclusively with Caldwell conversion chain, usually with bleed rounds.

there are definitely a lot of differences pc vs console, so i learned a lot of info that i didnt know. thanks man great list