"I Don't Want To Invest In The World's Most Expensive Beehive" | Dragons' Den

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Industrial Designer Aidan Quinn and his business partner Gemma Rowe are seeking an investment of £75,000 in exchange for 15% of their business, Eco Hab Homes, but the Dragons think they've seen something like this before...
Season 9, Episode 8
An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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@moniquevamado Год назад

This two were amazing. Aiden is a smart man with incredible, quick thinking and negotiation skills. Love both their quiet confidence and humble way of being.

@peterclarke7240 Год назад

Theo screwed them. 30% control for half the asking price. Aiden got what he wanted in the very short term, but that's it.

@markshepperson3603 Год назад

I seemed to think Aidan’s revised offer was worse for him than Theo’s ’final’ one.

@76-UVB Год назад

Well done Aiden , he certainly turned that around with a bit of shrewd thinking.

@peterclarke7240 Год назад

I'm not at all convinced he did. Or rather, he got some investment, but only half of what he asked for. The rest was a loan. He gave up 30% of his company in exchange for half of what he asked for. They went bust a year after this was filmed, according to others here.

@IAmTheJayster Год назад

I like the negotiation at the end, you dont often see that on here, they usually just accept getting shafted

@barsnack7999 Год назад

It's just a show except a few projects. "Series 9’s EcoHab Homes and O-Pod Buildings never saw any investment and have since ceased trading"

@dac8939 Год назад

Older guy is smart.

@calsmyth4483 Год назад

The offer he negotiated (30% for £37.5k) was significantly more expensive than the offer he originally received (£75k for 45%). It's hardly surprising why Theo jumped at it...

@elastronaute1198 Год назад

Except they're not really 'shafted' - because the dragons have a lot of added value. They can transform a business, but it has to be worth their while, not so much for the monetary expense but the time expense. So that is why it seems like they want a lot of the business - they are not just passive investors.

@Moon_Presence Год назад

@@elastronaute1198 Um it is for the monetary expense. If they're not making money, and just wasting time, "helping" people. THEY AREN'T GOING TO DO IT. LITTLE DO YOU KNOW LOLLLLL

@TSF_Ukraine Год назад

Wow, that negotiation at the end was really something.

@barsnack7999 Год назад

It's just a show except a few projects. "Series 9’s EcoHab Homes and O-Pod Buildings never saw any investment and have since ceased trading".. ..

@Debthouse Год назад

The negotiation at the end was an extremely impressive demonstration of Aidan's business acumen and I believe is what ultimately convinced Theo he was investing in a business with huge potential. I hope they are successful!

@peterclarke7240 Год назад

Um... I don't think that's what happened at all. Aiden THOUGHT he was being clever, but Theo stitched him up.

@calsmyth4483 Год назад

Really? You think dropping from 45% for £75k to 30% for £37.5k is "extremely impressive"!? 66% of the equity for 50% of the price?

@peterclarke7240 Год назад

@@calsmyth4483 Exactly. He halved his offer, made the rest of it a loan, so he's pretty much guaranteed that back, and STILL got 30% of the shares. I think he saw this business for exactly what it turned out to be: Something that would make money in the short-term (long enough for Theo to get his loan back and increase the share value enough so he could sell them at a profit... Probably back to Aiden... but it wouldn't last more than a few years.

@illuderebeliarh1260 Год назад

@@peterclarke7240 and it didnt. seems it flopped after 2 years.

@iLeon99 Год назад

Peter: *absolutely rips his business to shreds* Aiden: Appreciate that

@jamesflames6987 Год назад

I think he meant "appreciate" in the sense that he understood Peter was declining to make an offer on the grounds of personal taste.

@PhantomFelix211164 Год назад

Took it like a champ

@KingKai133 Год назад

😂😂😂

@hamza361 Год назад

Company went out of business in 2012. This was roughly a year after this was filmed. It was never going to sell that much.

@moogleking Год назад

Rip beehives

@hiimjustin8826 Год назад

Too bad it was pre-Airbnb

@ACE-700 Год назад

Prob the market share is too small

@bogboy90210 Год назад

@Danni is Lazy better than a lot of properties I’ve viewed.

@Alice-ui9oy Год назад

That's a shame

@tom2676 Год назад

Duncan is thinking what we are all thinking

@jimmorrison8203 Год назад

Aiden did very well. Smart ol dude.

@montelvontaviouspore Год назад

RIP Hilary 🙏 you will be missed

@free_gold4467 Год назад

Lovely Hilary, a very nice Dragon.

@kpm25 Год назад

Always loved you Hillary!!! RIP 😢♥

@ifwecouldvote Год назад

She looking up at us right now and smiling. RIP 😿

@TaelurAlexis Год назад

Yesss I’ll forever love Ms. Hilary

@Suzyfromtheblock Год назад

Wow that’s sad

@deepzd6839 Год назад

Theo made the deal just to kiss Gemma.

@jarednil69 Год назад

How on earth did they get that house in the Den?😄

@Gamertag5714 Год назад

Peter always tells it how it is 😂👍

@bluceree7312 Год назад

I remember this one. Quick wit indeed. One of the best negotiations. Alas, it was dissolved in 2012.

@peterclarke7240 Год назад

Theo: gosh. Half the risk and 30% control in a company that'll be ok for a year or two, just long enough for me to get my money back and flog the shares before it collapses. Aiden: well, i think we did very well out of that.

@Barboron Год назад

When I look at the larger one, it looks less like a beehive and more like something Spongebob is going to walk out of.

@ellawro9417 Год назад

Possibly my favourite duo of all time on this show.

@LionMD99 Год назад

I love the creativity of the home designer, to break into the market for new homes is a high barrier to entry. The efficient business models are already in the market place and they provide satisfying results to home buyers.

@ruthsmith2367 Год назад

Gemma was brilliant. If I had a business I would want people like her working for me 😊

@gtabro1337 Год назад

11:37 Peter positively amused just like the rest of us

@willowwren7752 Год назад

I would hav loved to have seen the inside along with the dragons

@PhantomFilmAustralia Год назад

Their egos didn't fit in such a small dwelling.

@b18crlxi Год назад

Was hoping one of the dragons would have said they were "two peas in a pod" but it never happened

@gamewithadam7235 Год назад

They look like Namekian dragon ball houses with bee hive skin unlocked.

@IAmTheJayster Год назад

I agree with Peter that thing is an absolute eyesore, wouldn't think many would like that in their garden

@paisley9782 Год назад

I think they actually would fit in well in a garden, they are quite rustic looking.

@montelvontaviouspore Год назад

They need to Beehave 🐝

@bash547 Год назад

You need to buzz off 🐝

@gamewithadam7235 Год назад

Oh beehive!

@fourlamb1 Год назад

Oh Ben, you're such a joker!

@drunkdunc8738 Год назад

Drone, drone…🍻

@TheLemonyOrange Год назад

Got my wagamama order on the way, ive paused this to wait until its here and consume both at the same time haha

@johnnyshami5318 Год назад

Gemma is a gem! Smart, elegant, and very pretty

@turbochrist Год назад

Indeed. I would easily give him 75k for 100% of her.

@BenjaminGoose Год назад

@@turbochrist Creepy

@tomaszczapiewski3359 Год назад

@@BenjaminGoose It's called a joke.

@haribokart Год назад

@@tomaszczapiewski3359 Well yeah but jokes are meant to be funny.

@Haywood-Jablomie Год назад

@@haribokart Don't cry because of the joke , you'll rip out your gender reassignment stitches !!! Ignore the jokes and eat more soy, it's what your gender non binary psychiatrist recommended

@andyb6120 Год назад

Nice one!

@liampugh4705 Год назад

One of the best business negotiations I've ever seen

@calsmyth4483 Год назад

In what way? It seemed pretty awful to me. The huge number of people impressed by it is quite concerning - I hope none of you run businesses!

@barsnack7999 Год назад

lame Series 9’s EcoHab Homes and O-Pod Buildings never saw any investment and have since ceased trading."

@david9180 Год назад

Good luck to them both

@johnlighton7025 Год назад

Hillaries shoulder pads are cutting edge 86

@ambessashield9360 Год назад

I’m surprised that anyone want to live in that, especially with barely any windows

@turbochrist Год назад

Everyone living in pods. What a brave new world. Hooray.

@INFINITY-oe4is Год назад

Looks like the homes in Dragon Ball Z! The problem with this taking off is you can't stack domes to make it multi-level.

@calsmyth4483 Год назад

Given that would likely require planning permission, and the selling point of these is that they don't need it, I don't think that's a major problem.

@KarrierBag Год назад

EcoHab Homes company dissolved Sept 2012

@bradleymilton9372 Месяц назад

Did he quote George Osborne LOL

@jz5748 Год назад

i literally thought that was a beehive 😂 😂

@kevindunlap5525 Год назад

I hope they did well, but I'd be shocked if they're in business.

@gamewithadam7235 Год назад

Most expensive beehive. But it's the cheapest garden pod by 25%.

@yaboiavery5986 Год назад

R.I.P Hilary

@Bluecollarkiel Год назад

You know what Deborah will do by what Peter does I've been noticing

@harlen07 Год назад

That was great

@getin3949 Год назад

I would buy one, I think they look really cool and different. I'd be the first one on MY block.

@DefyMG Год назад

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and the negotiations at the end. And she is absolutely beautiful.

@theguardian308 Год назад

Theo was looking for a place for his children

@shashankmh2000 Год назад

RIP Hilary madam 🙏

@shaunblackmore3780 Год назад

Reminds me of spongebobs pineapple house 😂

@kevindunlap5525 Год назад

Gemma should be working full time in front of the camera.

@seangraham57 Год назад

Why do they not build round homes in parts of which ever Country that are prone to high winds or hurricane type storms.?

@danielbriggs7110 Год назад

The alan sugar book in the beehive 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

@AlanTuringWannabe Год назад

What is this? A pod for ants?

@PhantomFilmAustralia Год назад

The Dragons may not want to live so far below their means, however there are so many people who would happily live in a small dwelling who are saving their money during tough times. Councils could also benefit from the affordable housing for the homeless.

@maverickstclare3756 Год назад

Except homelessness isn't about cost of building a building.

@cekojuna6930 Год назад

They could but if there’s one I learned is many won’t. This predominant in the US where such things is frowned upon by the government depending on the state.

@juliet7703 Год назад

@@cekojuna6930 why is it frowned upon in the US?

@jamest3336 Год назад

straight up lie that this is in 1080p res

@dollydiddums7889 Год назад

This is not enviro friendly ... Build your own on site using soil and sandbags , fit windows doors chimney and render with a variety of on site materials and finishes . Less transport less manufacturing energy etc 👍

@mattdowney2711 Год назад

Shut up nobody cares if it’s environmentally friendly

@maoaomar4074 Год назад

Hilary is so lovely. Sad she’s not among us anymore.

@M4nvrs Год назад

Could that negotiation bee anymore interesting!

@thesocialtap Год назад

How is that company doing?

@bobbyjones3351 Год назад

how many people since lockdown build back yard pubs, i see a greater market for this now for that reason

@keepitreal4046 Год назад

Guaranteed epic failure. This won’t go anywhere. Very dumb idea.

@hugoschkiglitz Год назад

I wonder how that company did

@stevenphillips2738 Год назад

Apparently they went bust I'm only going on another comment I read

@malcolmclements9254 Год назад

Something out of the Flintstones.

@dsgrbrowne1 Год назад

There is nothing inside it.

@00Kuja00 Год назад

A designer once told me people will go insane if they live in a round room. Apparently we need corners to fix our gaze on. ^^*

@itsmyparty4637 Год назад

00Kuja00 well then most of Africa must be insane, from living in round mud huts - my observation is though, than once they arrive in the cities and live in rooms with corners then they really go insane.

@neonwired4978 Год назад

most of our ancestors lives in round houses

@RockyDave Год назад

Not enough corners to go round.

@BenjaminGoose Год назад

It sounds like that designer is a nutcase himself.

@ifwecouldvote Год назад

yes, i stare at my corners at least 2 hours per day. Thank god for corners or I'd be nuts.

@MarvelX42 Год назад

Hmm, this might be only the second good deal for both sides that I have ever seen on this show.

@hiimjustin8826 Год назад

I feel like pre-AirBnB this is a totally different pitch. Too early :/

@kahocheung935 Год назад

May have sold well post covid19.

@KingKai133 Год назад

That’s a niche, quirky little product, it will sell some but it’s not a business

@michaelfield4701 6 месяцев назад

It's a shame Peter Jones is so rude to hopeful people

@edwindsouza8816 Год назад

So for £37.5k Theo gets 30% of the profits...which will be roughly £30k...so a bad deal.

@amilying2883 Год назад

Yeah but he gets it forever so obviously it will be more than 30

@iceala Год назад

RIP Hillary

@C0D97 Год назад

Is the company dissolved?

@KarrierBag Год назад

yes in sept 2012

@aps-pictures9335 Год назад

Oof, not a great deal. Disincentivises the investor from putting effort in, massively reduces value of the business (50% of 15% is now a loan, 30% equity), and even if he does no work - quids in.

@EerieVonIII8574 Год назад

Jema is really cute!

@jasperpike242 Год назад

The sound is so consistently BAD. Must be the producers mate. Thats the BBC for you

@noooname2568 Год назад

Welcome to the Shire

@SuperJohnkimani Год назад

I’ve never had anyone say “it’s Theo we wanted” 🙂

@omomeosakue5635 Год назад

Good negotiation but a worse deal, at 75k for 45%, he valued the business at 166k. At 37.5k for 30% the value dropped to 125k. So not only is theo getting his money back faster, he is also paying less. Not a good deal at all Aidan

@donramanayake1505 Год назад

True he dropped the valuation but he keeps a larger share of the business? So essentially he traded equity for value?

@janlassen6101 Год назад

The Beehive creation looks at least interesting and fun.... The Horrible thing behind them is a Design-crime against humanity.

@JonJon-dk3nh Год назад

I miss Theo he was a G

@ifwecouldvote Год назад

RIP the foetus 👏

@BenjaminGoose Год назад

A thousand what?

@JonJon-dk3nh Год назад

@@BenjaminGoose Yeah so if you can leave the jokes to us. Thanks.

@Scampi95 Год назад

@@ifwecouldvote hahahaha

@sanjanewmoonlife Год назад

I'm next biggest deal inventor ,next Nikola Tesla 😁😁😁😁🌏🌎🌍🌍🌏

@ShinChua Год назад

kinda want a hobbits house

@tkaygg Год назад

How has nobody mentioned sponge bob square pants?🥴

@godzillas6301 Год назад

ahhhhh the lovely Hilary ......

@til9678 Год назад

hobbits and ferengis are the prime targets

@tamikagreen1119 Год назад

It looks like Spongebob's pineapple house.

@TuanJinnNguyen Год назад

I love these kinds of houses... Always want one

@oneheadlight8000 Год назад

100,000!! ... We can 3D print homes in 12 hours that size out of the dirt / concrete surrounding them.. and all for less than 10k.

@GummyBearWA Год назад

360° buildings aren't friendly to a 90° world.

@BenjaminGoose Год назад

Time to find out which dragon has been unusually quiet today

@daveymorgan909 Год назад

That would look great in the back yard. Peter is clueless haha

@calsmyth4483 Год назад

If it's so great, why did they go bust? Peter didn't say "no one" would like it, he said he didn't think many would. Which evidently was the case. Who's the clueless one here?

@daveymorgan909 Год назад

Apparently you are because your another negative person happy to see a good company fail. They had a great idea and I liked it.

@V77710 Год назад

Depends I for one dont like it neither .. the idea is fine the look isnt

@jasperpike242 Год назад

Bloody weird

@mothermovementa Год назад

@neilpa Год назад

@Neo Anderson Cringe

@joemama1691 Год назад

Sometimes or most of the time, the dragons are predatory and the deal is horrible. 45% lol that’s crazy

@lovejoy4559 Год назад

Telly tubby house

@techtitanuk5609 Год назад

I like it

@Gaba-oo4qb 14 дней назад

That girl is cute

@neilpa Год назад

Looks like Jenny's out...

@BenjaminGoose Год назад

Yawn.

@jaylee3941 Год назад

All Dragons missed the crucial point. A lot of folks cannot afford deposits on a house or flat. These dwellings offer the ability to, for example, allow parents the ability to let thier grown up kids have independence until such time they can afford a place of their own.