I got a reply from Harrison 

hear hear! beatifully elegantly said

Man !!! What a quote!!!! Amen... 🤣🤣🤣

LOL

Bravo

So British eh what?! - "Don't mind me old chum, but if you can lift your head up just a little more while I keep stabbing your reputation with this buttery voice of mine."

yeah but I think they fool most of us, not a few.

im one of those super tasters, i smell everything. lol since im born

Based off what? A video? Are you a recording engineer?

ethan winer. gregory scott house of kush.

There are plenty more, just have to find them and weed out the BS

A lot. But Dan Worral is just the one amongst manies that decided to create a RU-vid channel. Most geniuses won't ever get famous. Even Daan Worrall is pretty much a nobody of you aren't into audio geeekery

"Telling the harsh truth about the industry you want to send you free products" just isn't usually the path to even limited fame and fortune.

There's plenty of them, we just focus on the bull shit here.

Cable lifter VST :D

You also need the copper gold alloy antioxidant aura-free organic uni-direction solid core speaker wires.

@@doctorscoot they have a plugin for that too to put on your monitor buss.

@@Wayne_Robinson oh no digital can never replace the magical atoms of the might $10000/metre analogue original

HAHAHAHAHAHA! 😂😂💀

Yeah it needs to become a thing!

Yeah, not loving their attitude in general, don't think I'll consider them for my studio now or anytime soon

Yep their PR is up there with their EQ

Reminds me of Glenn from SpectreSoundStudios. I think they might be friends.

I smell bullshit in your grave statement...

here lies john mcworthy. death by snake oil imbibement.

Lmao agreed

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Lol, I'll keep it forever too !!!

That's for the Waves goblin voice

While I see your point about not bothering with snakeoil salesmen, but problem is who is then going to inform people who aren't in the know? Not everyone has the knowledge to see snakeoil from what it is. It's good that there are people who have energy to keep doing this despite in some cases receiving tons of negative feedback, harasment and even death threats in some cases from fellow snakeoil salesmen.

@@Tulah you're right. i was just tired when i wrote that comment. tired of snake oil shit, but also just late at night-tired lol

wait wait wait. i already can tell whatever i say it will cause a fight.. but ill do it: i dont even remember dan woralls analog null test summing thingy, but: an analoge console creates distortion, do you agree? have you heard that? wether or not you heard that, how can a person tell wether claim a, b, c is true? the anwser? the anwser yu need to find yourselve, right? and how it sounds, it sounds like you are mixing up a "analogue summing" emulation plugin that was snake oil i guess, with an actual analogue mixer. an analogue mixer creates tiny distortions, and also each channel will bleed into another channel.. i dont know why that is im no electronican, but i am 100 percent shure that it is, atleast in the case of this audiophile, he loved that bleeding, that slight distortion he liked too. so, these tiny nuances of bleed and distortions, some companys try to replicate digitally by measuring them, and well programing them into a plugin. what you see here in this video is debunking of a company who CLAIMED it emulated everything very very very well, but in a plugin-measurement dan worall found it to clearly not beeing true.. so, that means this plugin implyes more than it does.. thats why he made this video. but that doesent mean that analogue hardware doesent have any distortions.. it does, never in the history of mankind was there analogue gear without any distortions to my knowledge,..

or i missunderstood you.. i dunno, but overall analogue gear is not distortionfree, and those distortions are wanted these days for certain tasks. not always, but, for acoustical instruments, ooh, analoge is very good for such things. it fattens it up, in a very smooth way. for synthsounds i often preffere digital stuff, especially for drums and basses

@@erewrw1906 it would be good if you watched dan's video and only then join the discussion. he tested an analog summing box, not a plugin, that was designed to be as transparent as possible. it turned out nulling perfectly, which showed that the process of summing is transparent in the analog realm. if some analog summing box distorts the signal it's not because of the summing but because of some additional processing done by that piece of hardware

Thanks for doing the research

Thank you. I have considered buying this many of times just for its emulation on the console on each channel, but now knowing this I will save my time and money. Again thank you for taking the time to do this.

same. I enjoy the spill function and a few other small things but they release a paid update after one seemingly useless update. The Daw still gobbles CPU, the click will cut out, sometimes a plugin gui will be massive....tons of bugs yet they give users cue launch....sample launching for the old school crowd. makes sense right? I'm done with them.

What, you manged to carry a whole test out on it without it crashing? You did well my friend.

“Even without any EQ or saturation engaged, I shouldn’t have been able to get the two busses to null, but they did…perfectly” Now THIS is an important discovery (I think), as it pulls back the curtain to reveal that the Wizard of Oz - is truly no wizard at all, but just “some guy” using smoke, mirrors and flashing lights to divert people’s attention. Your simple null test is very, very important, and I applaud and thank you for doing it and posting your findings. Here’s what I don’t understand about Harrison’s stance on this (or any other software manufacturers that claim authenticity with their modeling when replicating audio hardware in software form): Do they not realize how simple it is for their software to be analyzed and tested, as you did using a simple null test? Do they not know that there are specific programs designed to analyze and decode what plugins do? Or, maybe they do know, but just don’t care… I dunno…maybe Harrison is banking on the majority of their potential customers not delving into their software to have their claims tested; or maybe they are relying on most of their potential customers being moronically susceptible to the power of suggestion; that if they mention “authenticity” enough in their advertising, and release an authentic looking GUI, that those who are using the software will actually “hear” what they’re TOLD they will hear… Until someone like you - who isn’t effected by their attempts at this influence, decides to actually test their claims. Thanks for taking the time to post your findings, which has more actual power to influence people than Harrison’s marketing and graphics departments ever will. Well done, Sir. 🙏

Tbh I don't think it's harsh at all. Blaming consumers for falling for their bullshit claims on his video. I'd certainly be pissed.

@@annekedebruyn7797 That was my English irony coming out, sorry. I don't think it was harsh either. Dan always calls it like it is.

Well, that was a comment to something else.

@@Jazzguitar00 Ok yeah, point taken, but it was mainly a comment, which reinforced Worralls statements (as far as I can remember correctly) Also this doesn't really make it better, as they just keep cherry-picking their favourite Comments and don't address the Video, as it has much more substantial evidence and such....

"I haven't tried the Mixbus DAW (but I might, one day. Do you feel lucky? Well?)"

Yes but what happens if you are both an audio engineer & an audiophile 🥺 Oops, don't worry, I'll let myself out 🍦

child lover, not pedophile🥰🥰

@@axelfoley1768 C'mon, you cannot be both at the same time. Very often audiophiles are convinced to hear something that isn't there. I guess you are not one of those. I think Dan was talking about such people, who believe they can hear the modeled circuit Harrison claims to have included in the plugin.

👆🏻

I haven't tested any of the most recent versions of their DAW, but at least the first three versions completely nulled between a 'clean' mix and a mix using their 'bus summing'. After pointing this out several times, one of their online reps basically started insulting people for "not understanding how this technology works". That was it for me. Never even tried any subsequent versions.

The last 2 or so versions of Mixbus32C have been a good, stable, more modern DAW, compatible with all my VST2 and VST3 plugins. Limited in some ways, nice in some others. The channel strips are all built in so you can stop chasing after the latest flavor of the month in channel strips and save a lot of cash (assuming you like the result). I find it a nice tool to mix in, as a producer, at times. I don't assume that the DAW is anything other than convenient with plugins built in, as opposed to some careful analog emulation.

can you share which video that is?

@@stefevr ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fOIVFgZsL_E.html

@@whatskraken3886 wow you weren't wrong

@@stefevr that’s a first

I have witnessed them doing this.

We bum you ??!!*??

Brainworx has had a positive review from Dan Worrall and Paul Third. Their plugins in my null test do add a lot of character to the sound just through a simple pass through. Their plugins seem to be legit at emulating analog non linearities.

Next UAD.

That's what people have to say after they buy their 5 thousand dollar channel strip plugin.

There he is!! Ha!!!

I had to see for myself and was so pissed the plugin and the DAW nulled with a dry digital audio file. I uninstalled everything and deleted all my videos where I used their software. They are the ultimate snake oil salesmen.

Chill the f out mate, or Colt Caperune will bash you, with reference to his Grammy award winnig friends that say otherwise.

You also notice it’s written very similarly to a comment or two about it which uses a similar wording in reverse manner saying it’s not the fault of the developer. The same account gave a couple more similar responses to other comments which makes me think the guy runs harrison’s youtube account. Also helps that theory that he has a whole playlist of videos about how to use mixbus lol

Check out Dan's videos that he's done for FabFilter (on their RU-vid channel), that's where I first heard of Dan years ago. Even before I got any of the FabFilter plugins I still watched all of their videos because Dan was so incredible.

In '22 Studio One was stucking in stereo out too... 😂

And that when Ardour's MIDI writing is not even on REAPER's level. And REAPER has a horrible midi editor.

They are absolutely FAILING too hard to align with Ableton and Bitwig. Their DAW is a clunky alpha level waste of time.

At least from what I've heard they are also funding development for Ardour. It's not something they communicate well, though.

@@simongunkel7457 It isn't because Ardour only costs you money if you need the binary Windows version and don't know how to compile it from source. Otherwise, you can get it for free.

its... okay.

Dan "BEEG W" Worrall

I have to make an explanation about it. If you didn't manipulate anything in the DAW, the mixbus will be as transparent as any other DAW, also if I lower the tape control on the master bus, the signal will be clean. The harmonics are added once I start manipulating the stock processes. Indeed, this is still false advertising.