I Have a Love-Hate Relationship with Fallout 3 

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Introducing the Radio in Fallout 3 was brilliant and really added to atmosphere/fun gameplay.

Is anyone else’s favorite line from any game just “Later”

Going to the Republic of Dave, getting Ol' faithful and just wandering the wastes/subways/DC ruins is something i have fond memories of.

Mantis what’s your opinion on the Fallout franchise, I know it’s a little obscure but still

I can't relate to the lone wanderer I don't have a dad, he left one day saying he need to purify a water soure or something and I haven't seen him since

Fallout 3 you’re a child looking for you parent. Fallout 4 you’re a parent looking for you child. Bethesda: Yes!

I always loved Fallout 3 and New Vegas, they’ll always hold a special place in my heart. *Their fandoms though? Well that’s a whole different story*

I remember being a kid, terrified of super mutants, spamming vats, being easily scared of enemies up close. Good times

I love 3. not as much as some other fallout games, but I can spend hours in the capitol wasteland and 3 is a huge part of fallout history whether you like the game or not.

As someone who really appreciated the visual storytelling in Metroid Prime, I really love the world of Fallout 3.

Here's the rub. Bethesda has the capacity to create authentic Fallout games. (Far harbor proved this for me) They either can't due to constraints from the publisher or... Chooses not to.

I love Fo3's aesthetic, atmosphere, and environment. The capital wastland feels like the desolate, and hostile wasteland I would have imagined DC would become. I love how it's a different experience every time you play with it's random encounters. New Vegas feels like a curated experience, but the way the game was written makes me wish for the next game to be a hibrid between the two.

Last time i was this early it took 7 seconds to destroy 7 years worth of work.

I don't want to set the world on fire. I just want to sell you Skyrim for the 6th time

I feel like fallout 3 did its job as a reintroduction to the fallout series they couldn't add onto the previous games because they were so unknown

Congrats on 75k mantis!

Fallout 3 was my favorite game of all time until New Vegas, they are still my top 2.

“I have a love-love relationship with Fallout: New Vegas” or “I have a hate-hate relationship with Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel”

The environmental storytelling was very good in fallout 3

There's something about fallout 3 atmosphere that gets me everytime, the hopelessness behind the life in the wasteland, the danger around the corner, the ruins that stand there as rotten corpses and watch blood flow in the streets of DC

One thing that Fallout 3 gets right is the feeling of having to struggle to survive. The game is so difficult on low levels. The wasteland just really feels like a hopeless place

Personally Fallout 3 is my favorite, this is solely due to the fact that I played when I was 10-11 and how nostalgic I am of it. I remember thinking that the main quest was so well written. I replayed it when I was 14ish and remember how confused I was at my pervious opinion of the main quest.

Mantis: You have good factions like Riley's rangers and talon company Me: Republic of Dave

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I'm playin' FO3 with the Tale of Two Wastelands and that's how FO3 should be played.

As someone who is married and is a parent, the relationship of the SS, spouse and Shawn in Fallour 4 is still poorly done. And I never really felt a relationship with either. I actually felt worse when Preston got mad at my character when I sided with the raiders in Nuka World.

Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game and was the reason I played NV and went back to play 1 and 2. It may not be the best Fallout game, but it's the game that made Fallout a mainstream juggernaut franchise. New Vegas and 4 wouldn't exist without 3 ❤️

Fallout 3s world building is amazing. But its story is trash. God bless the Sneedclave, God bless John Henry Sneeden

No matter what, it has some of the best atmosphere in any Fallout game.

Fallout 3 has Liam Nesson, thus making it the best Fallout game. Case closed.

"I would argue most people who play Fallout 4 are not parents" I would argue most people who've played New Vegas haven't been shot in the head, either.

I'm a truck driver on the east coast . Playing fallout 3 now is a cathartic experience for me. I used to think the Capitol was too bland. But now I walk through it smiling ear to ear. No traffic jams and most of it destroyed gives me a warm feeling.

I accidentaly found Fallout when I rented a PS3 game from a local shop and found out they sent Fallout 3 by mistake inside the case. Played for six hours on the first day and I've been in love ever since.

Well one thing Bethesda did try to do with Fallout 4 was bringing back some of the faction gameplay from New Vegas and Fallout 2. Even if it was somewhat lackluster and unsubtle. At least in Fallout 4 you aren't forced into joining the Brotherhood of Steel like you are in Fallout 3 (unless you betray them in Broken Steel).

Would love to see a video about Autumn Leaves, an amazing quest mod for New Vegas and a direct inspiration for a side quest in Far Harbor so much so it was debatedly copied by Bethesda.

Still a better game than cyberpunk 2077

I subscribed to you because you might be the one of only youtubers who were a fan of the original fallout before playing Bethesda games, it is an interesting perspective.

Sad to think of all the people saying Bethesda killed the franchise when they’re the ones who revived it in the first place.

Dude, same. On the one hand, I really liked the gameplay, location, and the dlcs point lookout and the pitt, plus it was my first fallout game in general. But on the other hand, I hated just about everything else. From the inclusion of the Brotherhood, enclave, and super mutants, to the bland and frankly boring story. In my mind, this game could've been so much better if it had a little more originality to it. I guess that's why I like point lookout so much, no brotherhood, no nothing, just it's own story. I feel like hbomberguys video on the topic of the game was very well put together, as it outlined all my problems with the game.

last time I was this early I almost wished for a nuclear winter

Exploring the warzone in DC, visiting the real life location like the the Capitol Building, seeing the battle between the mutants and the black talon is surreal. Like am I even playing the same game anymore. And encountering that Behemoth inside the building is so incredible.

Me and my homies go straight to Oasis after blowing up Megaton.

People can say whatever they like about Fallout 3, but in my opinion it is a much better fan-made Fallout mod than Fallout: Frontier.

Fallout tactics is good, now, put your pitchforks away.

I like the design of the assault rifle in Fo3, that is all

I understand 3 has issues, but I really loath the people who straight out say "it's a terrible game". People really must of not played Brotherhood of Steel. I love the atmosphere of 3 more than Vegas. You really feel the dread of the apocalypse whereas in Vegas you're a Mail man strolling in the desert killing men with skirts

I appreciate the game for introducing me to the franchise. I loved it at the time and then I played New Vegas which spurred me to play the originals and after that I no longer hold Fallout 3 in high regard aside from bringing the game back from the dead now knowing what a watered down version of Fallout Bethesda's vision was especially after 4 and 76 was the nail in the coffin.

I was playing fallout 3 when I was 8 and kinda fucked with the main quest because I randomly found smith casey's garage because I was to scared to go into the metro

If I wasn’t already subscribed, I’d have done it in a heart beat with an ask like that

I will always love three just because it was the first Fallout I played. I still remember going over to my cousin's house, and seeing my uncle going through some really dark subway, and me getting jump scared when a ghoul came out of nowhere

Recently 100% fallout 3 it’s pretty good

I actually really like how empty the capital wasteland feels. Really brings home that feeling of a dying world, where in any kinda life is rare or hard to come by.

Imagine fallout 3 without the brotherhood, the enclave, super mutants, deathclaws and radscorpions. If you remove those things from fallout 3 then your left with barely memorable factions and a relatively dull setting. This is why the east coast stories need more original, interesting and well-written factions and characters rather than just shoehorning old factions for the sake of brand recognition

Wonder what's your opinion on the STALKER games, would be cool if you made a vid on one of them.

What I've always liked about FO3 was the overall design, Beth nailed the look and atmosphere of the world down to smallest items, and I can't ever deny that. I've played this game already knowing Morrowind and Oblivion, as well as og Fallout games, so even the first playthrough left sour taste in my mouth. Suffice to say, I've NEVER, not even once, reinstalled Fallout 3 since playing New Vegas for the first time.

Mantis it's me, Dad, notice me

Out of all the Bethesda Fallout, 3 is the one I play the least (except 76 but that's just because I don't want to play with randos)

Bethesda did it before, they can do it again.

“I haven’t seen anything Star Wars since the original movies.” Dodged a bullet there.

I bought my 360 after seeing this game it was my first true open world game that at the start said go and do anything.....

Mantis always bringin the 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I will never forget fo3, I like you loved fo1 and 2 , Then i saw 3 was about to drop, my father bought me an Xbox 360 and the game the day it dropped, Ill never forget that as long as i live , R.I.P my Father, great memories of both! Played through fo3 and the dlcs recently actually XD God bless Mantis o/

Fallout 3 is just as good as NV. The main problem is leveling too fast and the dryness of the SE ruins.

Fallout 3 was my introduction to the franchise and I was hooked immediately. The atmosphere was truly magnificent. Haven't played it in over a decade and probably won't again until I get a gaming PC and can use mods and play through all the DLC.

Yeah I got ya it’s got cool loot interesting quest but I just wanna be able to look down my sights

When Fallout 4 was announced, a classmate got me into the series. So I went to the flea market one day and got my hands on Fallout 3. So it was my first game in the series. I played the vanilla story, and I personally like it. And surprisingly I don't mind the vanilla ending. I did got the GOTY edition and made it enjoyable with the DLC expansions. They could have expanded more with places like The Pitt and Point Lookout. Those places had unique factions and enemies, even if they are shallow looking back. Of course this was before Fallout 4 release. I did got New Vegas at first, though if you found any comments, it was a rough love experience. The freezes and crashes made me stop and return the game. Of course, I did got back to New Vegas and tried it again and appreciated. I dont mind both of them. I play both of them. But I would have like it if Fallout 3 had one thing like in New Vegas that none of the DLCs affect the vanilla game. At least until certain triggers happen. Say Broken Steel, the unique encounters and things that happen when the arrive not when you install the DLC.

bethesdas weapon and outfit design is too wacky i prefer new vegas mostly becuse there real weapons and better looking outfits

Yes, I have love and nostalgia for Fallout 3. It was the first open world game I played and I couldn't find Megaton for like 3 in game days. Then I got lost in the hospital and couldn't find a way out for like an entire weekend. Good times.

this game is in desperate need of A remake. say what you will about Bethesda writing but this was the game that got most Fallout fans into the franchise edit: no fucking iron sights too, like come on. Remake!!

I’ve played 3, NV, and 4. I love them all, I fucked my fallout 3 with the Nexus. (It won’t start on GoG.) I have played NV campaign about 8 times through and even with similar builds it’s still great. 4 has the best gameplay and DLCs, (except 3’s kuthoolo isle and the Divide.) and yeah every game has it’s charm but that’s why I love Fallout. Your game your choice and Bethesda should pay attention to the “choice” part.

Being able to join the enclave and help Autumn restore the wasteland his way, Mutant's included would have been alot better than letting the BOS fuck it up.

Very well done video sir. Fallout 3 may just be my favorite game ever, but NV really proved what a near perfect Fallout game looks like. I never played the first two games, but I do appreciate what they did for the Fallout universe. Those games walked so Fallout 3 could run; 3 ran so NV could sprint. I will always remember the special feeling of playing 3 for the first time, but NV is just so near perfect it’s hard not to point out it’s superiorities over 3.

I’ve never been this early...

i got into fallout through 3, it looked cool and unique and vats was a new and unique thing i didn't see in other games. a bit after that i tried playing the first two games but couldn't figure them out, still need to give them another try. then new vegas released, and it slowly but gradually became my favourite fallout game. that might change if/when i decide to give the first two another go.

Love your content Mantis just curios would you ever talk about Mother ShipZeta because besides Old World Blues and Dead Money Mothership is my favorite

Honestly Mantis, 3 was my first Fallout, but seeing Interplay’s Fallout 1 and 2, I realized how far ahead of the times they were for RPG’s when it came to how impactful your choices could shape the story. I will say though that after playing all the games, except for the first two... I hope they get remakes, but I personally am willing to give Bethesda a pass for Fallout 3 since it was there first one, after the way Obsidian brought what made Fallout from the 2D Era to the 3D Era into something amazing with New Vegas, Bethesda had no excuse at that point imo, because New Vegas pretty much set the standard for what Bethesda needed to do for Fallout as a series.

I'll always have a soft spot for Fallout 3 for getting me into one of my favorite franchises of all time. Faults and all.

I like the game more aesthetically than fnv or 4. God i hate 4's aesthetic and ik im not the only one.

Fallout 3 is kinda just oblivion but post apocalyptic (not saying it’s bad just the kinda similar)

tbh, the closest post fallout 2 fallouts came to being actual fallout is the lonesome road dlc. new vegas was still missing some epic sceneries like the graveyard or necropolis, and the divide was very close to those. there is really not many locations in any 3+ fallouts that stand out with a landmark. granted, isometric view is hard to beat when displaying epic sceneries and landmarks, but they proved it's almost possible. we'll see how f4nv turns out.

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The faction problem is ONE of the things i’ll give 76 credit for. It tried to introduce new “large” factions (responders, free state), which also fits good into the lore. However, still very sad with what little they actually did with them, due to the limitations of having no npcs. (Also, kinda weird how they shoehorned the BoS and super mutants into the game)

fallout 3 is my favorite game new vegas is a close second but 3 just looks and plays better like the combat feels more fluid and the world made for looks so good contrast to new vegas which combat felt sluggish despite having the same mechanics and stuff and the world just looks so ugly compared to 3 also the claim that 3s writing is bad is bullshit but only for the side quests the main quest started off pretty good but once you found your dad that's when it took a nose dive

I agreed. Fallout 3 is a wasted potential. The huge war against the super mutants, the vault 87 and the fight in the DC area between mutants, talon and BoS was more interesting than the water purification. Why they are there? What is so important in DC? FO3 should let you explode vault 87 to stop the mutants. I remember that in broken steel there's a non marked quest to bring blood samples from super mutants to BoS. They wanted to make some kind of poison. Also the enclave could have been the "good guys", there's many npcs that like enclave and Autumn wanted to secure the purifier for the people.

Fallout 3 was my first fallout. Still my favorite.

Literally just started a new F3 playthrough yesterday. I would have started earlier but I always have like a few days after installing 3 or New Vegas dreading those couple of hours where it feels like purgatory getting all your mods installed just to get it working properly then trying to remember your essentials. However, this is my first playthrough of 3 probably literally since back in the day. The purgatory section of the playthrough for 3 is so much worse.

I just started fallout 3 today for the first time and you coincidentally make this video

Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game, I kinda wanted to play the older ones but didn't have a computer at the time, I loved 3 though, it was cool, so many places and characters to meet and see, I actual didn't like New Vegas very much when I first played it, but it's grown on me, and the DLCs are really good on New Vegas. I still have not played the DLCs for 3, I'm so behind, lol, but anyway, I'm just a Fallout fan and will always be one, great video, you got a sub from me, I have some Fallout playthroughs if you want to check them out, have a good 2021!

I subbing isn't a chore, though I do do it righteously

"It's actually kinda hard to remember what games i played before Fallout 3" I SWEAR to god! nothing has ever resonated so much in my life lol And i got instantly hooked (this was around 2008 aswell) And since then i have pretty much only played Fantasy/Adventure/RPG games Edit : Misspelled something

There are some things i love about Fallout 3 too, and a lot i hate.

Before I state my opinion I want to make one thing very clear. I'm not an original fan of the Fallout games, I have played 1 and 2 but have not beaten them. I do have a massive amount of respect for them and have looked into the story and lore of both games. I started the series with Fallout 3. I ended up loving it have played it for a long time. Eventually I played New Vegas but since I didn't have a PC at the time I had to deal with the dreaded PS3 New Vegas, which was absolute suffering. I didn't get to experience just how good New Vegas and classic Fallout was. I played Fallout 3 more and more until I knew most of the lore surrounding it. It was at this time that I ended up looking more into the lore of the other games to prepare me for the upcoming 4th game, Fallout 4. I was hyped for the game, hoping it would be as good as 3. When it came out I loved it, thought it was amazing. Flash forward a couple years, and I finally have a PC which meant I could now finally play a good version of New Vegas. It was also at this time I opened up to some comments and criticism of the Bethesda games. I originally thought it was just a bunch of assholes but came to understand and really feel for the classic fans of the series. The criticism came out of a love for the series and I really started to listen to them. Some time after, 76 was revealed and I was intrigued but also not really optimistic about it. I really started to notice the severe differences between the overall writing and creativity of Bethesda and Interplay/Obsidian. I came to the conclusion that I like Fallout 3&4 but cannot in good faith say they are better or as good as 1, 2, and New Vegas. I make this long comment to say that my biggest issue with the series now, having looked at the past and the path it took, is the overall tone. The game's tone is completely gone, if you look at Fallout 1 and 2 and compare them to 76, it doesn't even feel the same game series. This is an issue that was slowly showing itself the longer Bethesda continued to make Fallout games. A misunderstanding of the lore and even more, a complete thievery of the series. If you look at Fallout 3, past the writing and some gameplay issues, you notice that the game is still pretty bleak, it has a lot of disturbing, dark elements and while different, it still feels similar to the original game's tone. It still feels like a lawless, bleak wasteland. A lot of things in the game also paid homage to the classics. One example is combat armor. While combat armor is different it feels like a slight tweak of the original armor, like Bethesda wanted to change some elements of the game but still respect the classics. Fallout 4 changed this, while it still has dark elements and bleak moments, overall it feels as if it's a much less dark game. The world, while destroyed doesn't really feel like a wasteland, there are elements there but it felt as if Bethesda was changing the game to less of a dark survival RPG, and more of a goofy sandbox action adventure. The aforementioned combat armor, now looks nothing like 3 or the originals design. They started HARDCORE retconning things, changing elements of the games to fit THEIR perception of what the series is. That being said, I do still think the tone of the series wasn't completely lost but the changing of the series was quickly exacerbated. The release of 76 was the final nail in the coffin. The "wasteland" 25 years after the bombs fell is green, trees and plants still grow, it's colourful, it doesn't feel like the wasteland. Even worse, is the overall tone of the series is now fully dead. The game is a fucking joke, a silly mmo with crazy weapons and kooky areas. Gone are the dark days of the bleak nature of humanity's fall, the aftermath of a nuclear holocaust and the consequences that resulted in this lawless, fucked up world. The showing of the horrors of war, the evil of mankind, and the terrifying power of nuclear technology, presenting what happens when humanity goes too far, and how war and conflict are constant in our species. The feeling of surviving in hell, an unforgiving wasteland that kills the weak and destroys the innocent. Now, we have a bunch of people in silly outfits blowing up still active nukes just for fun, you know, the antithesis to what the series stood for in the first fucking place. Even further retconning the original lore, turning the game from a creation by another company that they wanted to respect and continue faithfully, into a game THEY have created, a series THEY own, one that they can now do whatever the fuck they want to, regardless if it's a complete disrespect to what the series is supposed to be. Bethesda have fully misunderstood why the game was loved in the first place... and they don't care, because "Fallout" is THEIR series now, THEIR cash cow that they can milk for as long as they want, not caring if the tone of the games is gone and if it even feels like the same series. Blanking out desperate cries by fans who love the games and want to see them return to why they were loved. It's a brand now... no longer a creation by a small team to create a world and lore they love and respect, one that teaches us that "War never changes", but now a stolen and bastardised art and world by a massive company that only cares about making money, and being mainstream. A souless husk of a once great series now artificially continuing it's painful existence, robbed of everything it stood for but forced to continue on. I apologize for this comment being this long but I really wanted to state what I truly think about this game series and where it is now, I still love 3 & 4 but I can't just pretend this isn't what has happened to this once beloved series.

Personally I love 3 just as much as I did when I first played it, even after playing NV. It was and still is one of if not my favorite Fallout game. 4 (and NV) doesn’t ruin 3 at all, if anything due to 4’s flaws it shows how good 3 really it is. 3 has better writing than some give it credit for. It’s main story while not always perfect, it’s still good. 4’s (and NV’s) main story doesn’t ruin 3’s, again it shows how better 3’s is due to 4’s flaws. At the very least it’s not bad. NV’s main story is lacking a more emotional/personal side, that’s something that side quests and DLC would do better, but I think the main quest could have used it too. 3’s world was great and the stuff in the game isn’t shoehorned in, imo. As they are explained. I understand why some don’t like them, but I didn’t mind. 3 isn’t shallow, it has a lot to love about it. Not everything has to be just like NV. Plus NV wouldn’t exist without 3. Imo 3 is just as great as 1, 2, and NV and it deserves more of the love it used to get. It feels like I can’t talk about it to some fans with getting hated on. Which sucks because I love the game so much.

I was 8 when I first played fallout and at that time big town and little lamplight were my favorite things in the game. I was too afraid for a little while to go to German town to save Red but that’s what hooked me to the fallout series

Still better than frontier

I think Fallout 3 was a great game for what it was. It was my introduction to the series. I understand where Bethesda fell short but to some extent it can be excused considering the undertaking of bringing an old IP into a new technological paradigm. New Vegas obviously blew Fallout 3 away and makes it hard to go back to, but I believe if Fallout 4 had followed up on the success of New Vegas by learning from how that game worked, Fallout 3 would be remembered more fondly as a stepping stone for bringing Fallout into the mainstream again. Because of the way Fallout 4 doubled down on Bethesda's misplaced priorities, I think the negatives of Fallout 3 are that much more obvious because they've been beaten into our heads by the time we've played through 4. Also, does anybody else think Fallout 4 settlements made Fallout 3's story irrelevant? Multiple people had to die to make a water filtration system in Fallout 3, but in Fallout 4 the sole survivor just comes out of the vault able to make water filtration with just some concrete, gears and screws? You can turn Sanctuary into a water baron settlement without ever leaving it. Just seems an odd choice after spending a whole gaming tying such huge consequences to the ability to source clean water.

the main reason i like fallout 3 is nostalgia. my first ever fallout game was 3, and one of my first FPS's or RPG's to boot. i still have very fond memories of being shit at aiming and frantically trying to kill a raider.

I feel like everyone does tbh 😂

i bet that 1 dislike is tgspy

I think we all grew up and became more critical of Fallout 3. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it, was my first Fallout game and I loved it. But after playing New Vegas, I tried 1 and 2 to see all the history. Holy crap were they good. And after that, they left a bitter taste for Fallout 3, because it became obvious Bethesda guys didn't really understand what Fallout was about. EDIT: Also, I think I hear the ghost of hbomberguy screeching autisticly