i'm sick of these YANKERS 

Only catchers can call them Yankers. You have to call them Yankas.

Look at that subtle off-zone framing. The tasteful quietness of it. Oh my God, they even called it a strike.

With a hard R damn Bailey

Babe wake up, Bailey dropped a new baseball slur

baileys vocabulary is now 70% twitter memes, 30% baseball

Haven’t seen a Georgian this mad at yanks since the 1860s

Another reason Jose Molina is so good at framing is because he sets his body up in such a way to sell it even more. For example at at 1:20 he sets up for a fastball away pretty far off the plate. This helps him to sell the pitch because the umpire sees him receive the ball slightly to the right of his body despite still being off the plate.

yesss, this has been driving me nuts the last couple years... thank you for highlighting it. the saddest part is that it works. when we first started talking about framing, the yankers were clowned on for being absolute crap at it and now many are rewarded for this trash

i love that you pantomimed framing with your right hand, canonizing left handed catchers

but have you considered: seeing a catcher move their glove 3 feet trying to frame a pitch in the dirt is funny

Same thing my mom said in the family group chat when she realized me, my brothers, and my dad all had a crippling masturbation addiction

I love getting new videos on your main channel!!

I think framing is the equivalent of flopping in basketball. It's a bit immoral, but the umps should see it. And maybe there should be a penalty if the umps think the catcher is trying to do it, maybe with a warning first.

8:30 Bailey has officially come out against yanking it. Never thought I’d see the day.

I'm not going to lie I wasn't expecting a pretty solid Abe Simpson impression in there

Posey was also someone who rarely yanked. I used to get mad at him for not yanking on pitches out of the zone.

Bailey- you’re a better man than I for not making a Reese McGuire joke

Patrick Bailey mentioned WOOOOOOOO LETS GOOOOO

8:27 Holy moly, what a suave reception. When I was a kid I always loved watching José Molina catch because he was so serene and smooth when receiving.

I've been sick of yankers for a while now too. Thank you for putting this out there, Bailey

From what I understand it's not even framing these days, just moving the glove aggressively to make it harder for the ump to tell where the ball crossed in any way and basically making them 'guess'.

Foolish, I’m taking a sports philosophy class in college this year and today we had a long conversation about the ethics behind framing and how of the yankers we see more and more today make it pretty obvious that they’re trying to deceive the ump. Great vid as always!

Foolish Bailey keeps hitting with these main channel vids, keep it up!

Now hear me out for a second. If a catcher ALWAYS yanks a pitch to the middle, even if it was definitely a strike, wouldn't that make it harder for an ump to tell where he originally caught the ball? It presents a brick wall of yanking

As a Yankees fan, I was literally preparing my “give us a break” comment while this video loaded

I like the idea of instead of total robo ump, having a certain amount of strike/ball call challenges

Thank you! I have been thinking all of this for a long time now.

this may be your best work yet

When you posted the Molina catching highlights a couple weeks back I thought, “damn, look how quietly he’s catching those balls. Nothing like the “framing” people try to do nowadays” So ty for making this video, specifically for me.

LET'S GO YANKERS 👏👏👏👏👏

Mike Zunino at least while with Seattle was IMO the best at getting his guys calls he was somehow able to catch the ball while moving it into the zone all at once, I have yet to see another catcher frame the way Mike did.

As a catcher I was taught to flick the wrist after receiving the ball it’s helped steal a lot of strikes especially on the outside corner

Is this the main page?

Love this video, great main channel video

Came to this late but this reminds me of something my dad always says. He's a HS basketball coach and he talks a lot about "fake hustle" when players dive and reach for passes that are nothing they can even get close to. Yanking to me is the catcher version of fake hustle

it’s simple, Foolish Bailey uploads a video right before i need to go walk to class that perfectly fits the time it takes me to walk there, and i watch.

If the most obvious framers weren't also the ones getting the most calls this would not be an issues. Can't wait for auto ball/strike or challenge system

Once again, another banger of a main channel video. This one slaps.

You probably want to watch this yanking in person... LMAO Top tier transition there Bailey

These main channel releases are so good.

effectively wild mentioned!!

i have hated this yanking style of catching. i loved just barely moving my glove but making it closer to look better for my pitchers without it being very obvious i was moving my mitt. i found that got me the most calls before i tore my labrum

love the themes on the new main channel.

I grew up playing catcher and pitches on the edge we were always taught to stick em there as opposed to trying to pull a fast one and bring it in

Kirk is one of the best of best in framing today. LETS GO BLUE JAYS!

I think Jose's body placement is an underrated aspect of his skill. A lot of those videos show a slight angle of his body pre-pitch which could have provided a forced perspective for the umpire where everything looks funneled into the heart of the plate. Great video!!

I've discovered Austin Hedges offensive problem ... he's swinging at the pitches in the location where they've been yanked to, regardless of the location where the pitch actually was.

0:46 10/10 chair spin

That yank at 7:05 is absurd 💀

I’m just a 44 year old adult baseball league catcher and I take great pride in knowing that if stealing strikes is a crime I would be buried under the next prison. It’s an art and skill.

Love the comparison of Molina’s framing subtlety as “cinema”

robot umps are honestly needed because of the amount of games that are ruined by bad umpires. especially when even the catchers are surprised when they get strikes from pitches nowhere near the zone. sure you can call it "a skill", but most of the time its just a old guy behind the plate who needs to get his eyes checked or just retire from umpiring. The Jeff Mathis' of the MLB can still exist, but they're more impressive when calling a great game behind the plate with their pitcher throwing runners out or just controlling the game

I once jokingly framed a pitch that was about a foot and a half out of the zone, and the umpire called it a strike (and he meant it). On yeah, and this was in slow pitch softball so the umpire had plenty of time to see it through the zone. My pitcher bent over laughing it was so ridiculous!

So what you're saying its about small movements at the edge, edging if you will, rather than yanking? Thanks bailey love all these new terms!

This is why we need the challenge system ASAP

6:07 when you get the new Foolish video notification

My problem with pitch framing is that it has become the only skill important to catchers and has led to the one knee stance. I firmly believe that at the end of the day most catchers are losing more on passed balls and wild pitches more than they're wining from framing with this new stance.

As a high school umpire, I always tell the catchers that if they move their glove 6+ inches then THEY don't think it's a strike, so I WON'T call it a strike. Amazing how fewer Yankers there are in the area I umpire.

4:27 another Bobby Wilson success

What I love about the Molinas is that all three of them were really good at something. Yadi was great at handling pitchers and recieving. Jose was a great framer and an extremely reliable backup. Bengie was a good gap/doubles hitter and could be counted to come through for you at the plate while still being a very solid defensive catcher.

something interesting might be to see if subtle framers lose more ball-strike calls on pitches in the zone. every umpire knows every catcher is framing, so i wouldn’t be surprised if subtle framers are losing calls on pitches on the edge of the zone that are actually strikes at a rate higher than average, due to umpires being excessively wary of any pitch received on the edge of the zone. i have no idea if there is any statistical backing to this and im not entirely sure how to get that data, but i think it makes sense in my head

Finally someone says this! With all the frivolous rule changes of the last few years, why haven't they banned framing?

That’s some good video right there

Need more Patrick Bailey content on Foolish Bailey

Jose truly understands that your entire body is attached to your catching arm

What about anti framing when robo umps come out? When a pitch is a strike yank it so that it seems like a ball so the hitter challenges

i fkn love this guys content because yeah im generally aware of framing as a concept, but Bailey always has those phenomenal examples of WHY catchers frame pitches, WHO is someone thats known as an excellent framing catcher, and HOW good framing so impactful even getting so deep as to SHOULD we be framing pitches at all? Love seeing your stuff in the sub box man its always a treat

Thank you for this. Have been losing my mind for years now about this. You are 1000% correct.

I think the flaw in the argument is the laziness of umpires and fans. Umpires for relying on the yank to make the call easier and tv watching fans for not realizing the box isn’t always on point.

PATRICK BAILEY MENTIONED, INSTANT LIKE (I had already liked the video by the time he was mentioned)

This video title really yanked my chain

You are playing with fire Bailey 🫣

I will always love Hedges as he was a part of my beloved 2023 Champion Rangers, but I agree with the overall point in the video so much that I'm willing to let it slide.

This is a great video. I mean, the real culprit here is poor strike zone training/judgement from the umpires, who incentivize gratuitous yanking (that felt weird to type somehow). Might I recommend Travis D’Arnaud as a quiet, respectable framer. Its usually both very loud and he’s been getting mostly positive framing metrics with TB/ATL

Love you for this video Bailey. I’m not sure how many people consider framing as one of the prime reason umpires make these terrible calls. These umps gotta stop rewarding shitty frames.

“Is it ethical to gaslight these umpires?” Damnit, dude. 😂

Molina's receiving is silky smooth.

Love the video

I remember some umps growing up would just call it a ball, regardless of it being a strike or not, if they caught the catcher with a bad frame job.

At first I was going to say I disagree with your opinion on “yankers”. However, once I saw how smooth Molina was, I understand your point completely

When Bailey posts on his main channel it makes my day

Catcher framing is a garbage stat that only mattered when umpires didn't have computers that were able to track every pitch and provide near instantaneous, concrete feedback. Before the days of Pitch f/x, it made way more sense to believe catchers influenced the umpire because umpires were more concerned with calling a consistent strike zone while avoiding egregiously bad calls. If a catcher was moving significantly to catch a ball or stop a pitch, it seems way less likely that the umpire would go out on a limb to call a strike. Similarly, an umpire would be more likely to call a pitch a strike if the catcher didn't need to move as much from where they set up because catchers tend to set up near the strike zone. Once you get to pitch f/x and, later, Hawkeye cameras tracking everything, you see umpire strike zone accuracy sky rocket. Most of the pitches that catchers are being credited with "stealing" are in or near the umpire's margin of error for the strike zone. A catcher who can hit is way more likely to improve team outcomes compared to a "good" framer. Good defensive catchers are still valuable, but catcher framing is no longer a valuable skill to consider for defensive value.

Can't wait for the Foolish Bailey Furries Video to be honored as a cinematic masterpiece at the Oscars

This video perfectly says what I've been thinking for so long but didn't know how to describe. Yankers are so frustrating to watch, and it's even more frustrating when umpires fall for it

Terrific video! I am in complete agreement with every opinion you stated!

Holy shit Patrick Bailey mentioned lets go

This is the baseball version of jumping into the defender in basketball. People do it because it works. If the umps/refs stopped allowing it, they would stop doing it. The NBA did seem to stop rewarding it for a while, and the difference was obvious, but it didn't last much to my dismay.

Idk whats more annoying; the yankers or the catchers who freeze their glove in the strike zone after every single pitch for 2 secs trying to will the strike call out of the ump.

Patrick Bailey (Patty Barrels) mentioned 🫵😲

As a plate umpire, I will less likely call a pitch yanked a strike just because it does look like you are pulling a ball up to 12" outside into the zone. Receive it with the glove parallel to the ground and you will get far more calls than not when on or around the edges.

I've been umpiring 33 years and I've already made the call when the ball crosses the front of the plate - I don't even look at the glove or the catcher's setup. Before every pitch, I look at the plate and then look at the pitch being delivered. If a catcher is a framer (or a yanker) I don't even know it.

Making it look like the pitcher hit his spot is probably more important than the frame. A lot of the strike calls that people go up in arms over are pitches where the pitcher missed the spot by a country mile and the catcher had to do evasive maneuvers to catch the ball (imo these are acceptable calls cause missing your spot=bad). Making it always look like the pitcher hit his spot with the subtle frame is beautiful.

What if they gave replay on strikes for batters? Like the robo ump is always there but the batter gets a challenge once per at bat (which repeats if batter is correct)

4:26 Man, Patrick Bailey already 9th on that list (which covers 3 seasons), despite only debuting in 2023 and playing 97 games! Like Giants fans everywhere, I'm really hoping he can get the bat going, because what he's shown defensively is just amazing.

As a Brit, I misread the Y in Yankers initially and thought this video would be a fair bit different than it was...

Would you explain neurodivergent being associated with being children. If there's a specific situation I have missed, I am curious to know because I am working on a book about autism.

Fuuuuuuuuuccccc i love a main channel upload

Giants actually have a drill for their catchers to keep them from making big motions when framing

Them first 30 seconds well explain 😭😭

Are the framing metrics connected with ump zone tendencies at all? Seems kinda pointless other wise cause there’s a major difference between getting an ump who always gives the outer edge to call an outside strike instead of vice versa.