AI doesn't assume you have infinite money, it just assumes that you're going to proxy the whole thing. This is because in it's infinite knowledge, it knows that giving any money to WotC/Hasbro is a huge mistake.
Which is why I find channels that obsess over budget and cost kind of annoying, even when its a joke or joke deck. I will never give one red cent to WoTC or Hasbro and I have no idea why anyone would. So just give me an idea of what the BEST cards for what is trying to be done. Mentioning both the best choices and the budget choices is great. I know it is all in good fun and should not be taken too seriosuly, but when people are like, "and we're not going to discuss cards over $50.00, because that isn't budget friendly," that's really annoying for someone trying to learn that plans to proxy everything or play online. Like a sane person.
@chuckle duck I like the budget deck options because I love actually buying the cards I play with. My dad taught me to play magic when I was just 5 years old so I buy the cards anyway. Having both would be better than just the cheap options, but not everyone proxies everything
I corrupted chat GPT with the elf brain. For the last several days I have asked it nothing but suggestions for my elf decks. I’m glad to see the effects on full display here.
I don't think chat GPT is currently updating itself, the website says the training was finished in early 2022. We have also seen multiple times that chat bots degrade really quickly if you have them continue learning from their interactions after release, because a lot of people just go to them to fuck around.
@@Gabriel64468 People try their goddamn hardest to ruin them. Its impossible to make an AI able to learn from the internet and not have 4chan convince it of the benefits of racial cleansing within a week.
@@Gabriel64468 the most recent update was February 13th, 2023. It still updates as OpenAI hasn’t completed their goal/vision for this AI yet. Not arguing, just thought I’d let you know.
Honestly the ai’s deck is actually insane because it’s not trying to build around the commander it’s trying to play a Abzan good stuff deck and use the commander to get back your big threats.
Always the best philosophy. I do have a few decks that are very reliant on my commander but the second my commanders gone the pressure is off and that just sucks. Now when I build I just make sure my commander synergizes with my theme.
@@steventyler3582 fun tip in some decks youre going to have a couple commanders that fit that theme. what you can do is buy them all then either switch them out to raise and lower the power level of your deck. or just randomly shuffle them up and take 1 out. it adds a ton of variety to just one deck
@@peewee0224 Thats a fun idea. I might try that with a couple of my decks. Kinda hard with something like an orvhar deck though where the deck is literally built around the commander though.
This inspired me to try to get chatgpt to design a CEDH deck, and it was pretty close but it included 2 demonic consultations which honestly is a great idea and I don't know why anyone hasn't thought about doing that yet.
Aura Shards actually does synergize with your commander. Because of the fact that you're bringing creatures onto the battlefield with Karador and Aura Shards blows up an artifact/enchantment when the creature enters the battlefield, you basically have a passive removal option for enchantments and artifacts.
You arent wrong, I think if I saw the commander or had built the commander my self I would have included a few creatures that etb destroy artifact/enchantment and work towards having them repeat entry (this takes out less but you will hit the key threats). The main advantage being you want your creature count up to synergies with the rest of your deck direction. That being said Aura shards isnt embarrassing to bring out at all 😂
yeah you really pegged it, i was thinking the same thing aura shards is just value once its out. plus he has all those low cost creatures, its triggering every turn.
@@stephenhurley1033Idk, the advantage of using aura shards here is that it's one card that can be activated by any creature. So, you don't have to spend any of your valuable creature count on artifact/enchantment control. I feel like it has really good synergy here, actually.
@@bronsoncarder2491 this might be meta depending? My group that I play with have really reliable enchantment removal so for me to include Aura shards in any deck I need to support it with slots that will bring enchantments from the grave which in my meta will end up being about the same amount of slots as it would be creatures that have the removal etb. I think I'd be better off having the creature count and including ways of abusing creatures etb's given it's the main deck focus. If my meta wasn't going to remove Aura shards reliably and quickly then my thinking would change but as a deck builder I have to build with resistance to the opponents I will face ☺️
ChatGPT can't elaborate on shit, because it doesn't actually know anything. What it can do is give you a slurry of regurgitated text that may or may not coincidentally be interpreted by you as correct, thereby convincing you that it is "elaborating" on its "choices".
Garruk was a great choice because it gives you a ton of wolves to sacrifice with your other cards to power up your planeswalker. AI was just 10 steps ahead.
The reason it gave you so many sac outlets and only a garruk as a good sac targets is because your commander reanimates so you don't need as many good sac targets that don't do anything but be bodies. It's actually smart and the bot probably believed you would sac your sacers, and reanimate them one by one while annoying your opponents with removal like aura shards and get reinforcements like with that 217 dollar enchantment. It's a cool deck and if I was Elon musk, I'd build it.
I like the idea of a sac deck built around sacrificing and reanimating ETB creatures instead of the standard token spam, so maybe Chat GPT was going for something like that.
It's not really "thinking" anymore than, say, the algorithm behind EDHREC is "thinking". ChatGPT has been fed a trawl of text from the internet. The ChatGPT neural network then uses this text to create connections to predict what the next character in a sentence is (similar to, say, predictive text except way more complicated). It uses your prompt and previous messages it's created to create context and further adjust predictions. It's not really evaluating cards or the deck as a whole. That's why it suggested illegal cards, duplicates, etc or gave the wrong description for cards. What it "knows" is that certain strings of text appear more often near other strings of text, so it reads "Karador" and then outputs cards that are mentioned in text that mentions Karador. Since all of these are predictions at the character level, sometimes it predicts wrong. As I mentioned, there's some similarity with EDHREC. EDHREC's algorithm looks at Magic decks, sees that certain cards are found more often together, and then uses that to create "synergy" suggestions and the like. (The algorithm behind EDHREC is also way less complicated but since it's so specialized it's arguably more powerful. Though, that's a whole different conversation.) Side note: notice how it writes card names in double brackets (e.g. "[[Karador]]")? That's used on Magic sub-reddits because it summons a bot which provides Gatherer, Scryfall, etc links for the card that's in double brackets. And it's doing this because places like reddit is where ChatGPT gets a lot of it's text.
The reason it gave you so many sac outlets and no sac targets is because your commander reanimates so you don't need as many good sac targets that don't do anything but be bodies. It's actually smart
ChatGPT clearly overlooked the mighty Mycoloth when going over sacrifice outlets! You can sacrifice any number of creatures upon summoning it, and then generate TWICE that many Saproling tokens on _each_ of your turns!!
Maybe Chat GPT doesn't really like mycoloth because if you sac a bunch of stuff to it and then it dies before your next turn then you just feel really bad.
@@murpl1462 Thankfully, Abzan is a trio with two of the _best_ protection colours in the game in green and white! If you can spare the mana for a Heroic Intervention, Tamiyo's Safekeeping (budget lol), Blossoming Defense, or even a Teferi's Protection, you've got a beautiful value machine starting! Mycoloth is my secret commander in my Prossh deck, hahaha!
This actually gave me a lot of good ideas, so really, the AI was using you to help multiple other people. Net gain. Big brain play. I don't see any problems here.
I want someone to please build this deck in a cockatrice and test it out. There has to be footage of the deck. Clearly it is superior. Just decide this was funny as heck.
That is a fascinating deck, a bit loopy but you can sac those lanowar elves to give your opponent a bad day.. But you would have a hard time ensuring you can build that machine...
Strangely enough, there were some weird card choices that actually had some synergies with the commander. Though, a lot of the cards made no sense with the commander in all fairness.
I actually really like abzan but the commander options aren’t what you’d expect. You’d really think there’d be a keywords-in-graves matters commander in abzan but no, it’s in sultai because of course it is
Well, don't forget about Kathril, Aspect Warper. He's exactly what you want for an Abzan keywords-in-graves matters commander. Dump your keyword soup in the graveyard and have an almost untouchable commander that one-shots each opponent.
30-35 creatures, 5-10 instants and sorceries, 5-10 enchantments and artifacts, 1-2 planeswalkers and 35-38 lands. Is it recommending you make a deck that has 76-95 cards?
Idea for a video. Have Chat GPT build a 5 Color Frog Tribal deck, and name it Alex Jones Gay Frogs. It doesn’t have to be good. It just has to be fabulous.
you can just ask it to make a commander deck then it will ask you a bunch of questions then just say I want you to decide that and it somewhat synergises
its all based on playing the creatures from the grave yard and the battlefield. the commander is key here. it all makes sense, so go ahead and sac the creatures because you can play them again.. at least that's what i got from it
Decided to try this to create an EDH deck around Linn Sivvi, and it gave me a list with no rebels in it, and told me Linn Sivvi was powerful because I could search creature up and put them in hand.
I put this list together and it's surprisingly coherent? Obviously pulling a lot of cards purely because they're popular, but it's honestly not the worst I've brewed
The Aura Shards is actually brilliant because any recursion or mass recursion can result in a ton of hostile artifacts and enchantments being removed and that's on top of normal casts. This AI has a few misses but honestly I've seen (and myself have made) worse decks than this.
So there's a step you missed. Every good deckbuilder plays a deck then revised based on how it played: you need to provide the decklist to the AI again, alongside your estimation of strengths and weaknesses, telling it to iterate and edit the deck for reliability and strength. In general, it'd be good not to stagger prompts as much, as well. It'll have an easier time retaining info within its own response than comparing to previous responses. Frankly, it gave you a good deck with a bit of a wonky mana curve and some backwards synergy. It's not bad by any means for casual commander.
ChatGPT's knowledge ends in early 2022 so it's also likely out of date in terms of what it thinks is a good commander deck, including its price knowledge which is likely either older or just made up. I will say the Bing AI gave me some pretty fire suggestions but it can cheat and actually search the internet.
