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I Raced a 5K Before the Marathon With NO TAPER! How Bad Could It Be? 

Phily Bowden
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Doing a 5K in the depths of marathon training, what could go wrong? As ever Bristol Track Club put on a fantastic event with some incredible talent. It was super fun to run in the same race as my amazing team mate Ciara Mageean but how fast can I run on tired marathon legs. You'll have to watch to find out!
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Комментарии : 106   
@markbateman9222
@markbateman9222 Год назад
Back in the day marathoners used to race quite often at short distances. Ron Hill, towards the end of his career reckoned that the better he raced at short distances the better he would go in the marathon itself. Top runners today race far less often that runners of yesteryear. The weekly race was common for many runners - it just took the place of a hard training session. Another of Ron Hill's quotes is that "running is running and I could never push myself as hard in training as in a race"
@Wonderkid44
@Wonderkid44 Год назад
I think it keeps you from getting rusty to. Coming from a boxing background, I fought much much better when the gap between matches was small and consistent. So when the competitions came, I felt ready already.
@krruns4165
@krruns4165 Год назад
Ron Hill was also known to train through illness and injury, almost refusing to rest. Tim Noakes, in the Lore of Running, wonders whether Hill could have achieved more if he'd trained smarter...
@greenpenguin3154
@greenpenguin3154 Год назад
That is why back in your day marathon runners were slower
@markbateman9222
@markbateman9222 Год назад
@@greenpenguin3154 How many UK men run 2:09 as Ron Hill did in 1970 - while holding down a responsible fulltime job in the textile industry? Bill Adcoks still holds the course record for the classic Marathon to Athens race. Take away advances in shoe technology and the significant sponsorship that top UK runners receive these days and yesterdays men were NOT slower than today's runners.
@markbateman9222
@markbateman9222 Год назад
@@krruns4165 I've got Noakes' book on the shelves at home, very interesting read. Ron Hill would not have agreed with Noakes, he says in his autobiography, and several interviews over the years, that he feels his approach - twice a day, once on Sunday - was essential to his best performances.
@TheFODRunner
@TheFODRunner Год назад
Smashed it!! So good to meet you and see everyone there 💪 you worked your way through that field so well… each lap you looked stronger!
@rhydianruns
@rhydianruns Год назад
Hey Phily - That is me at 10:18 having a photo with you! Thank you!
@heeby123
@heeby123 Год назад
What a team. Daniel’s editing and Phily’s running 👌
@themiddlebro111
@themiddlebro111 Год назад
🫡
@alanshrimpton6787
@alanshrimpton6787 Год назад
Love your enthusiasm and honesty in your vlogs. Thanks Daniel for bring it together for us. Love from NZ
@jonathanp181
@jonathanp181 Год назад
Congrats! Impressive result for a race on tired legs 🙂! Must be a confidence booster for your upcoming marathon. Re your idea to use plant watering bottles for hydration: kudos for your creativity and ingenuity. But, just a minor thought (I work on food safety): are they food grade (e.g. wine glass and fork symbol)? If not, they may contain harmful chemicals that can migrate excessively into the fluid it contains. Perhaps not an issue if you use them just for the race (although taste can be affected), but perhaps useful to keep in mind if you start using them more consistently...
@etapepartners
@etapepartners Год назад
good for you to race simply because you like racing...and a 16 min effort will certainly only help your marathon training. I train for longer mountain races, but I also run 5k and 10k on the road because they are fast and fun. my aspirational 5k goal for this summer is sub-19 mins...its amazing to me how fast you guys run...
@zpttpzzpt
@zpttpzzpt Год назад
Saw you on Ben Is Running’s video and was PATIENTLY waiting for yours to drop!!
@PhilyBowden
@PhilyBowden Год назад
Haha thank you for your patience
@ZirothTech
@ZirothTech Год назад
Great running Phily! Colour grading on the video also looking fire 🔥Gutted to have missed you both!
@PhilyBowden
@PhilyBowden Год назад
Thanks Ryan! Daniel takes all credit for the colour grading 👏🏼 Hopefully we’ll see you another time!
@themiddlebro111
@themiddlebro111 Год назад
Thanks Ryan! Was testing out a new lense aswell so I think that helped 😉
@tonybowen455
@tonybowen455 Год назад
16:03 with people in front of you, what a stacked 5k
@guywarner8391
@guywarner8391 Год назад
Amazing running. I cannot imagine finishing a race and then having to do another 2x2miles! Crazy! Congrats, shows what great shape you're in.
@nathanwarren5616
@nathanwarren5616 Год назад
'I'm going to go out on a whim' LOL!😆😉
@mattb6873
@mattb6873 Год назад
Dans cheering is unmatched. Great race Philly
@themiddlebro111
@themiddlebro111 Год назад
All those years of training as an actor have paid off! 🫡
@jamiegreen3960
@jamiegreen3960 Год назад
Love seeing you taking time to take photos and chat with the other runners, also that new balance kit is great
@crashinglikewaves
@crashinglikewaves Год назад
I love the return of the race vlogs!!!
@hamba1998
@hamba1998 Год назад
Well done Phily! And congrats on 20k subscribers!
@lauraablitt6379
@lauraablitt6379 Год назад
I just love these videos ❤ Well done Philly
@milikoshki
@milikoshki Год назад
Well done, Phily!! You look so fit out there, really excited for what's coming!!
@hellomark1
@hellomark1 Год назад
This was a fun watch, great energy all around :)
@christinaclementson
@christinaclementson Год назад
Looked so strong out there. Fantastic running Phily. 💪💪
@farizhakim9790
@farizhakim9790 Год назад
feels I'm watching an Avenger movie when you, ben, matt, kelly and andy gather together haha. Great stuff :)
@nickmoore5105
@nickmoore5105 Год назад
I'm loving your videos Philly and they always inspire me to get out and run and train properly!
@remyleigh7535
@remyleigh7535 Год назад
Well done Phily! Also very impressive how Daniel manages to film on the bike
@themiddlebro111
@themiddlebro111 Год назад
It’s a real skill 😂
@garymacalister
@garymacalister Год назад
It was such a fab event at Odd Down. Glad to have very briefly met you there, and hi to Dan who I did have a good natter to at the start line. Although I went out in the first wave it was still great to race in such fast conditions. Good luck with your marathon!
@jasonflorimonte3813
@jasonflorimonte3813 Год назад
Congratulations on a fine sesh and finer race all around! 2nd time at the race/course was a charm!
@psychedoutlorna
@psychedoutlorna Год назад
Brilliant, Phily! I'm only starting out running again- 1.5 miles, 4 times this week, but I find your videos so motivating. Good luck with the impending marathon!!!
@geoffh2560
@geoffh2560 Год назад
all my fav youtubers in this video - yay!
@pbnotj1
@pbnotj1 Год назад
Keep bringing the joy and enthusiasm in running , that is why I love your channel ! Keeps inspiring us mere mortals to get out the door and stay healthy.
@neilyoung449
@neilyoung449 Год назад
you crack me up , love the videos 👍
@10stephenrose
@10stephenrose Год назад
I enjoy your videos as an amateur runner. Inspiring and relatable, it’s nice to see your personality shine through ❤
@OmiSido
@OmiSido Год назад
I admire the passion and sincerity that you display in your vlogs 👍
@rubarb1275
@rubarb1275 Год назад
Great video, really enjoyed it 👍
@pgleaves
@pgleaves Год назад
Your running form is supreme. Love your videos - thanks for sharing.
@PhilyBowden
@PhilyBowden Год назад
Thank you so much 🥹 i used to not use my arms properly as a kid so I’ve come a long way!
@djclass005
@djclass005 Год назад
Love the grind is the best runners closing mantra! You chose well!:-)
@adamtherunner92
@adamtherunner92 Год назад
Congrats, rapid time and looked a fun race! Sorry about your bud and then having to get on a Ryanair seat. Good luck at altitude and safe travels!
@jochippyy
@jochippyy Год назад
Loving the new new balance kit phily
@edenratcliffe
@edenratcliffe Год назад
Love you and your videos so much!! ❤
@ChloeHamard
@ChloeHamard Год назад
Those marathon legs did a great job, congrats on your race and on getting a session done afterwards!
@jobanski
@jobanski Год назад
Awe! Philly you had a young admirer! That girl will probably tell the story about how she met one of her running heroes, and how you inspired her!
@Supafloppy
@Supafloppy Год назад
Well done Philly. 🎉 🏆
@simonhodgson4941
@simonhodgson4941 Год назад
Awesome running 🎉
@progbass56
@progbass56 Год назад
Philly! I have a daughter named Phyllis. I Love your personality and additude! And I'm so glad you survived Oregon and that you've come back! I'm 67 and have Metabolicy Disease, I've been doing Virta Health Reversing Diabetes protocol for almost 2 years. No Carbs for us! I'm now Fat Addapted!
@mergy5325
@mergy5325 Год назад
Well done Phily! Would be interesting to see how far you were off from 2nd and 1st
@PhilyBowden
@PhilyBowden Год назад
Well Ciara won it in 15:24… so I was miles behind her! 😅
@Nixsterruns
@Nixsterruns Год назад
Hey phily love the vids I'm quite new to running, keep getting niggles that put me out for a long time each time. I never really know how to warm up before or what sort of stretching to do after I just put something together but would be nice to have a routine. Reckon you could do a video on the drills you do before your running and stretches you do after?? Cheers nick
@marathonranati
@marathonranati Год назад
Its basically a "5k test training run" we do that! love your work!
@Snuzzcumber
@Snuzzcumber Год назад
I think your best video. Very engaging and enjoyable. Sounds like nettle bum did you good :D
@katiesperry8250
@katiesperry8250 Год назад
Love to bottles!! They’re the same one we use in my biology lab for ethanol to wipe down the lab benches!! A truly multifunctional object
@lizgreen2936
@lizgreen2936 Год назад
Well done!!.. Yr videos go in so fast I love them!!.. 🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️What Garmin do u have?.. Im looking to upgrade from F45....x
@artcafe2684
@artcafe2684 Год назад
That was awesome. I'm not sure if it is PC to say this or not, but I've noticed that your legs seems to be more muscular now. I don't know if that's a biproduct of training for a Marathon or joining the NB Running Team and going on all those training session trips. Great job coming in 3rd.
@ajaybn
@ajaybn Год назад
Phily i already saw you did well on FOD runners channel.
@jocelyndunkley1607
@jocelyndunkley1607 Год назад
Looked like a really good race! What was your previous time last year? I think you mentioned 16:30 or something like that, great improvement if so!
@robertstenhouse3880
@robertstenhouse3880 Год назад
Class video. Is Daniel on a bike on the grass on the inside of the track? Or does he just run really fast for a quick burst? 😂😂
@Awesome1914
@Awesome1914 Год назад
What brand of glasses are those? Also been thinking about getting those NB Fuelcell shoes for my first marathon in a few weeks, did you like running in them? Great video too 🎉🎉
@ianjones9322
@ianjones9322 Год назад
Stung bums and pooey feet haha a day in the life 😂
@CliveWalker
@CliveWalker Год назад
Great time, great race! How does Daniel film the post-race side-by-shots?! On a bike?
@PhilyBowden
@PhilyBowden Год назад
Yeah we brought my bike and he filmed on that with the iPhone 😊
@themiddlebro111
@themiddlebro111 Год назад
Honestly IPhones are amazing and the only thing I use to film with when cycling, the stabilisation is in matched!
@DrProfX
@DrProfX Год назад
It’s also a good speed/critical velocity “workout” -the 5K is👍
@jennyvaglin5511
@jennyvaglin5511 Год назад
Sense you have been in Copenhagen to do a marathon. Have you ever considered going to Stockholm to do that marathon?
@richardbutton5031
@richardbutton5031 Год назад
Have you done the EK pace on Coros? The flash, Sprinter and Track Star ones I mean.
@taraorourke
@taraorourke Год назад
Not me thinking you were using perineal spray bottles 😅
@fpupesh
@fpupesh Год назад
is that a garmin watch is see there :)
@HeHasNoName
@HeHasNoName Год назад
Man, I envy anyone who can rock up on race day and slap on a number and go. Ive gotta do it the night before and if it isnt perfectly centered im fully triggered.
@bakerstreet7050
@bakerstreet7050 Год назад
"why your butt hurt?" ehmmmmm 😂🤣
@ann_intube
@ann_intube Год назад
Well done! Regarding the advert: does that mean that Daniel can catch a break and you're cooking for a change? ;)
@themiddlebro111
@themiddlebro111 Год назад
What do you think? 😂
@ann_intube
@ann_intube Год назад
@@themiddlebro111 we need to find a study or paper with the title "Cooking improves performance of athletes by 30%!!"
@themiddlebro111
@themiddlebro111 Год назад
@@ann_intube I’m writing one as we speak 😂
@ann_intube
@ann_intube Год назад
@@themiddlebro111 I bet chat gpt can find one for you 😂
@Mixed.upMedia
@Mixed.upMedia Год назад
Where do you get your singlets from??
@nicolestecklein8883
@nicolestecklein8883 Год назад
I feel bad for your poor rear end....but it made for entertaining tv :)
@Leeroy49
@Leeroy49 Год назад
It's totally fine to race a 5k in marathon prep. Look at Ben he PBd with a Marathon just around the corner.
@mattie_world
@mattie_world Год назад
i was thinking that 🤔
@PhilyBowden
@PhilyBowden Год назад
Yeah I agree, not many people do it though
@midlandmatt
@midlandmatt Год назад
It's not the point that he pb'd in the 5km ... The London marathon is their main goal, so it can only be judged as fine or not after their marathon. Let's hope they both race their marathons well. I'm sure different strategies will suit people
@nro337
@nro337 Год назад
🔥
@francolive5718
@francolive5718 Год назад
Old school mentality is that the best form of training is racing
@PhilyBowden
@PhilyBowden Год назад
But you can’t race twice per week or you’d be absolutely ruined 😂
@francolive5718
@francolive5718 Год назад
My ankles are ruined on one parkrun, a long run and a leisurely swim per week 😆
@clairhardywynn5620
@clairhardywynn5620 Год назад
🤦‍♀️ ffs Philly 🌱 🍑 😅 oh my god there multiplying 🐶 😂😂
@nolie9981
@nolie9981 Год назад
What's taper? Im sorry for the question
@lanbroghini
@lanbroghini Год назад
Just means that she didn't decrease how much she is running leading up to the race.
@yellowfolder
@yellowfolder Год назад
someone who tapes, like the man behind the camera
@ianjones9322
@ianjones9322 Год назад
Its like an ant eater i think???
@kellyann4879
@kellyann4879 Год назад
taper is where you decrease the amount you are doing over a week usually before a race in order to have the freshest legs you can come race day.
@michaelmccrossan7655
@michaelmccrossan7655 Год назад
A taper is a period depending on the athlete (1-3weeks) the volume of weekly training is reduced or tapered usually from peak week of training. A 2 week taper can be a reduction of 20% total volume week 1 followed by a further reduction of 40% total volume in week 2. Personally a 10 taper works best for me. Taper seems to be an individual thing based on the athlete 💪
@BenKeeley-qx6pu
@BenKeeley-qx6pu Год назад
Watched ben is runnings video and he said perfect conditions before his race someone’s lying 😭 🤔
@PhilyBowden
@PhilyBowden Год назад
Tbf the conditions were pretty good by the time we raced 👌🏼
@jmsanderson
@jmsanderson Год назад
Wooooooo
@maddieMdancer
@maddieMdancer Год назад
Daniel’s support during your run is unmatched 🥹🫶🏻
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