I was Wrong about Lebron James - He is not a Top 5 Player 

It's his Kratos arc.

So true

Or maybe he learned from what happened to Kobe. It’s just a game.

Hes getting paid to play a game! It is just basketball, just like my job is just work. Family is way more important. You say this quote by LeBron like its a negative when he is still playing at a high level, still is in tiptop shape, and has been doing it longer than hes been alive! I dont think yall actually get it

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Because the media tries to put direct comparisons away. But since he’s on the Lakers now, media propaganda is failing and he’s getting exposed.

Stats and logic

@@j-short5431 stats says losing finals record and logic says ducking and skipping games to fake longevity is a bitch made mood. Especially forcing your kid to feed your ego after he had a heart attack. Think up of something better klutz shill.

Because he is a better scorer,passer, rebounder, teammate, and has 3 more MVPs.

@@cantpleasonist 💍💍💍💍💍

Just not when they went head too head lmao 16-6 LeBron vs Kobe 😂🤷🏾‍♂️

@@MYBCBOYBronsexual

@@MYBCBOY the better team won but I remember Kobe having more points than him in most of that

@@BloodguiltyGaming battles or wars sir which won would you want to win 👀

It shouldnt even be a conversation. Lebron is just a good player in a very weak, lousy league. Kobe is one of the greatest in a real physical league.

when you are good you will tell everyone, when you are great everyone will tell you. The fact he has to announce it proves how mentally insecure he is.

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And the weirdest thing was he didn't make the last shot...

What’s funny is he won the series in 7 games and called himself the goat. If you swept them then I could give you a pass but winning a chip barely in a game 7 because the other team couldn’t hit a shot to save their life doesn’t equal goat.

But he won a lot and did a lot 🤷🏻‍♂️

Yep makes zero sense! 😂

Very true.

Lebron's biggest legacy is getting fired 7 out of his 8 coaches in his career.And could be 8 out of 8 if Riley listened to him when he wanted Spolstra fired.

It's wild

Because he’s not here to defend himself… MJ thought Kobe a lot, that’s why even his interviews and guest appearances were so great. Does anybody really want to hear Lebron and his excuses of why he lost, again!? It’s sad that nobody in the Lakers org. Speaks up for him… but I knew once Jerry West left, so did the wisdom and ability to make amazing moves and put things together to make things work. He was the backbone of that Org. Now they have no class and look to sell themselves like a cheap drunk girl in a brothel. (They couldn’t even get the statues right SMH)

Pissed Cleveland fans so bad , they burned his jerseys.

LeQuit

He went to Miami and promised 7 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 Titles. He didn't keep his promise.

@@michaelcambridge1542 He promised „not seven“ It was 8 actually 😂😂

@kaukase539 either way he didn't deliver.

LOL i can't wait until this clown retires!

40k

@@SuperSikarlo and???? Dude just been stat padding since his last championship in a full 82 game season. Kareem played 20 seasons and has six NBA Titles to show for it!

HAHAH! This is good ! I have to agree ! :-) hehe

100%

That's a fact. He done the things his whole career and he is only in business for him and his "brand".

Yes an we don't want him in LA anymore.

​@@Caleb.612 He is in LA for at least 3 more years. All the best to Lakers fans lolol. Sincerely from a Spurs supporter.

@@kharis87 😂😂🤦🏾‍♂️ I know Bro but just the idea of waking up to Rob Pelinka tells LeBron an Klutch to hit the road is still the best news we can have. Now we're gonna trade the few young players we have now to get some washed all-star who will be a scapegoat by December. It's the same song with this fraud every season.

If that's the case then how did they come back from 3-1 versus Golden State, you'll take is trash

They'll always push a new person, watch. If they don't, then we admit that the sport and players are inferior? No, they hype so you watch.

@@noneyabizz8337 they tried to push Giannis as the next superstar a few years ago... That didn't work out

kobe over bron? wilt and shaq over bron? no way

@@mike04574 Uh yeah, Shaq, Wilt and Kobe are considerably better than LeBron and it's not even close. LeBron is in season 21 and still isn't even top 30 all time in rebounds as a 6'8, 250lb forward... 1 scoring title and 1 assists title in 21 seasons and nothing else. The guy is just mediocre

@@mike04574 yeah way way way

*He said* the reason he "had to learn how to flop" was to get to the line more. And, I'm guessing, by extension, that is also the reason he throws tantrums like a two year old. *And yet* - he has NOT improved his free-throw percentage *at all* to increase the *value* of his getting to that line more often and, thereby, being a greater asset to his team. Any of them. In *20* years! Why should longevity be praised if it isn't used to improve your skills and contributions to your team? In 20 years, he *could* have learned to play the game of basketball with fundamentals and within the rules. Especially if he wanted to be counted among the greats. But, he chose not to.

@cindy… 🎯

@cindyknudson2715 LOL!! Learn to flop...hahahaha you right though

I had him at #13 next to Dirk a few years ago and now I regret ever saying he was top 15. All of his rings are either fraudulent or earned on superteams. He constantly feels the need to be crowned the goat by others and the media and it shows in him trying to go back and retroactively explain away every criticism of his game (podcasts, barber shop talks, etc.) Its sad to see because I really felt like he was supposed to be the chosen one and now it just feels empty because he was never those things when I started appreciating the game more than the product of the NBA.

I feel the same way. The more I appreciate the beauty of the game, the lower I rank Lebron’s greatness because of how he cheats it. He is a disgrace to the game of basketball. It is telling of the character of this generation that many respect him as a top 5 player, despite his lack of real skill and legitimate accomplishments.

AOH? Is that you? 100% on point.

Back in 2018, my coworkers (mostly younger guys mind you) used to always push the LBJ narrative and swear he was the goat. I had not to long before switched from Sling TV to RU-vid TV and was recording the games but rarely watching them if they weren't live. One day after a whole shift of "he beat the Warriors" this and "MJ could never" that, I just randomly clicked on a game in my DVR recordings and simply watched LBJ from play to play. What I witnessed changed the way I've looked at LBJ from that day to this one.... I went back to work only reported what I observed and got the biggest backlash. I was a hater, an old head ect. I've known LBJ's play style for this long: his defense is at best lackadaisical and will play defense for highlight purposes more times than not. His shot selection is patterned for stats and rarely makes a difference in actual winning. He has no mid range go to move which, for a goat, is unheard of. Free throws is one color of his kryptonite, the other is actual defense against him. I could go on..but I dare anyone who reads this to pick a random game from LBJ years as a Laker and pick MJ's Wizard years. Show it to your friends. The truth of the two are written in the plays.

Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Right on the money sir! I susbcribe everything you've said sir. Thank you for your courage and honesty.

The goat of uncalled fouls traveling and flops too.

To be fair, all superstar athletes have loads of narcissism. That's how they get that far.

#1

@@joshportie IS THAT THE REASON JORDAN GOT 50 FOULS ON HIM PER GAME IF ANYONE TOUCH HIM ??

@MichaelCheo-cr6ks Lebron has more longevity AND a higher peak than Kareem. Lebron’s peak was 90% of Jordan’s peak yet has played at that peak for 40% longer, that’s objectively more impressive than Jordan having a slight edge in peak. Lebron has faced more All-NBA, All-Defense, All Stars in the playoffs than Jordan especially in the finals where Jordan’s best competition would be Lebron’s 2nd worst competition. And let’s also ignore how Jordan was favoured 6/6 times in the finals whereas Lebron was favoured 3/10 times. There’s only two possible reasons why: Lebron had less help than Jordan OR the teams he faced were significantly stronger than Jordan’s so either way 🤣🤣

You nailed it bro! 🎉

If anything, they'd try to get up and act like it didn't hurt even when they were clotheslined to the floor.

yeah but u can damn sure make a bad shot highlight reel

@@RASHONBOND973 cant get 2 points flopping on the floor crying to the refs.

@@RASHONBOND973did you watch game 3 of the series? Just another bad shot by Lebron. After he pushes a defender down then loses the game 😂.

Everyone and everything else's fault.

I admire Anthony Towns words that they are 15 great players not just 3.

I still don’t forgive Ray Allen for betraying KG and Pierce when he joined the Heat… he left bcuz he said he wasn’t willing to come off the bench, than came off the bench to the Heat! 😑

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Agreed, that’s all his fans logic . Blame the coaches and his teammates when he loses

Olajuwon, Duncan

Bird always my number 2. We wouldnt know what would have happened if he didnt hurt his back. Never in my mind that Lebron ever surpassed Kobe, much more Bird.

There's 0 arguments to put Bird or Wilt over Lebron.

Ant man is already better than Lebron

@@BDAthleticInsider He's better than a 40 year old? I hope so.

Same.

Not unless the correct rules for dribbling, steps after dribbling, and fouls/hand checking are reinstituted into the Game.

@@wtm121 Agreed they need to fix the rules and put balance back in the league

it's starting to improve now

@@wtm121 The ora will improve from day one before any rule changes come into effect.

Lebron seems to have never understood the fact that this GAME is actually his JOB. He is paid an absurd amount of money to put his product on the floor. What the hell would people think of a fireman telling you it’s just your house,your picture, your pet, your wife, your child? People are trying to say lebron is the goat WTF. He is just a big guy that has some athletic ability and above average skills and a no heart. His ego is huge but his fight tinny. We all have seen this many times whenever he thinks he can’t succeed in the situation he is in he runs.

Doctors and nurses don’t even come close to top paid NBA players, who get paid well above 15 MILLIONS per year.

Doctors and nurses? LeBum gets paid more than entire hospitals.

I disagree with your interpretation, and my eyes see things differently than yours do. So, whose right and whose eyes are more reliable? Or should we use the "stats test" rather than the "eye test" to be a bit more objective in our analysis?

Did you see the post game interview when he said that? Because you're completely missing the context

His legacy has been tainted since that meltdown in the Finals against Dallas. He's acted like an overgrown child for most of his career. He actually came across more mature in his first few seasons than he is in his 30's lol.

Exactly man!!! He is a cry baby

But LeBron has always given up on defense and has always thrown tantrums and has always quit on his teams. The media has just been able to ignore it and distract everyone from talking about it

He acted the same as always. People actually watch the Lakers to see his bs.

In LA basketball is his side job.

I’d honestly switch place with curry and bron. Bron maybe more eye catching, but they literally built an all time team naturally around Steph. Sure KD contributed a lot, but KD is just a piece. Steph was the foundation.

@@Telopead Totally agree that Steph made those teams work. I could see switching them, for sure.

I’d also put Wilt before LeBron.

I AGREE TOTALLY! 👏🏾

Lebalco. When that truth comes out it will be the true danger to his legacy. I don’t love his game, but he’s 2 or 3 with me. I prefer Kobe at 2 but Lebron’s longevity is considerable. If the Balco allegations come true it wipes away the most substantial part of his legacy.

​@Sleepy4213 I don't even see him top 5 because of his character

@@VtooSmooth Yep. The way he went out NUMEROUS times. He literally quit against Boston, the Spurs and Denver.

From Kobe and Duncan to curry💯

THIS!!! I had high hopes for LeBron, but he doesn't earn his pay now.

Correct!!! He plays football on a basketball court - he doesn’t sound smart when he talks basketball - he sounds like a salesman cause he is selling bullshit. MJ doesn’t have to sell propaganda.

Reminds me of Howard

Very true. I think with the right mindset and determination to be better he had a shot at being in the real goat conversation

​@@JoelKSullivanHe Threw it To The Thrash His Opportunity To Be The Goat Too Late, His Negative Loser Resume Tantrums, Meldowns Narcissism, Petulant Attitude, and To Makes 👉🏾Things W🤫rst, BE A QUITTER Disqualify Him, T🏀 Be Even in My Top 5. Greatest 🏀f All Times... ✍🏾

Smh....hahhaahahahhaah aight!!😂

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Right that’s why I don’t have him above Michael Jordan and Kobe

Exactly. I have no idea why he said that in the video. LeBronze would rather throw a teammate under the bus than speak even cordially about them nevermind highly praising them...

@@mpound97 they tried to get Westbrook out the league in LA. He got death threats and everything. LeBron didn't say nothing!

He’s the one that wanted Westbrook in the first place, that’s why the roster sucks because Jeanie Buss has no business running a franchise. LeBron tried to get his old buddies again and it failed yet again.

@@BrandonGavin_EDC bro this franchise is done for the next 20 years!

@@KaoMinerva if they don’t get someone in there to help Buss run it for sure.

That makes 2 of us. He's not even close to their level.

Make it 3

Dirk beat lebum and d wade in playoffs so dirk over both of them lol

And I will add another All Time Great, Of Defense, Steals, and Blocks, etc. Hakeem Olajuwon.

@@baffledsquirrel2122yeah i remember those games dirk was better than everybody on the floor the whole series

and he's living rent free between your ears!

@@erikhopkins9488 Not hardly. He's out and I'm watching the Celtics.

Bad comparison, LeRefs is flopping.

@@erikhopkins9488I heard he’s living with your mother😂😂😂 now go fetch your king some nourishment

​@@erikhopkins9488LeFlop son is dyinggg because of Leflop forcing her son to go to NBA despite having some health issues. I wish and hope it will happen and also to you and your family. Cause leFlop is living rent free in your mind even she don't know you.

Passive Aggressive. The worst quality in leadership

lebron will be nice to your face then stick you in the back with no problem,, he's a snake and a fraud in every way.

so MJ is deleted from the goat conversation as well because he known as douchebag amongst his teammates. he's actually assaulted at least 1 teammate.

​@richgreene5038 Nah, Being aggressive IS the quality you need from the GOAT, not being passive aggressive. MJ demanded the best, Lebron runs away and then points fingers in interviews but never directly.

@@richgreene5038 You could've skipped the feminine energy and just said that he punched Kerr once

Maybe he was the best in 2012-2013 but even then it was probably KD that was the best at that time.

Character is part of the equation, character, and results when it counts, and in that fashion, to me Lebron isn't even in top 10 for me. I think if you want to talk god fiven talent in regards to pure athletism, then he is no doubt given the gifts to play this game at a level as high as anyone to ever play the game. 6'9", and a solid frame. No doubt his jumping ability is astoundishing for someone of his height. So there is no doubt he was given all the physical tools necesarrily honestly to be the best who ever played. But what has held him back from even making the top 10 is his completely lack of character, his insane entitlement, his flopping, his disrespect for his teammates, and his completely lack of team play. Iman in a video i saw recently was asked to talk about Lebron, and he said something I though was funny. He said that you can know the state of mind that a basketball will have his entire career based on the age and time in their life when they entereed the NBA. For instance, if someone is playing college basketball, when they enter the NBA, that level of mentality is where they are frozen at for the rest of their career. Similar if they come in right out of high school, that is the level at which they approach the game for the rest of their career. And he said that because Lebron entered right out of highschool, that was where he is stuck at. Iman played this game where he tried to indicate that Lebron played as some kind of sevant, and that he wouldn't practice set plays, but instead he would just call out the plays when they are on the court, and Iman said that Lebron didnt' care that the other team heard the position he wanted them in etc. And he tried to say that 'magically' the ball would go exactly where Lebron said. But here is what I think, Iman was giving Lebron an insult, saying that he is stuck at a high school level of maturity, and that he can't play advanced plays, because he isnt' capable of it. Which is why Lebron insists on not practicing set plays, and instead he just gets to call out where he wants people every play, and the rest, whatever happens happens. And if you watch, it's like Lebron has so much clout he forces all these other guys to play like that, and of course that makes them play at a worse level, cause they can't run set plays, and learn how to play a system, etc. And if you watch Lebron he is constantly cluless on defense, because frankly he never learned any advanced ideas about how to play with a team. Where someone like MJ, he came in and learned the triangle system that was Phil Jackson's brain child that he brough to the NBA. And because of this, they could come up with set plays, etc, that didn't require any communcation for them to know who the other players would react in different situations. Where under Lebron all the rest of the team is forced to deal with whatever insanity that Lebron calls for them to do, and of course when it all goes wrong, Lebron blames them, but when it goes right, Lebron claims he is the coach and says he should get all the credit, and the announcers give him that accolade despite the fact that Lebron is a complete negative to any team because he is useless in any system that isnt' just about Lebron getting easy stat padding points... People play worse with Lebron than they play on other teams, that alone is enough for him not only not to be top 10, but to frankly drop him likely even out of the top twenty. I would put guys like The Dream, Shaq, and even guys like Iverson, ahead of Lebron. If you consider the talent that Carter played with, and had to help grow for instance, compared to the super super teams that Lebron has demanded to win. I think just because a player doesn't have rings, doesn't mean they were worse than Lebron. And that is something I find annoying when people give Lebron credit for rings, when he played on teams, that frankly many people could have played on and taken home those same rings if they had played in place of Lebron. LIke Allen Iverson being an example... as well as guys like Barkley, Elgin Baylor, Steve Nash, Karl Malone, etc, etc, etc... To me if you picked any of the super teams that Lebron was on during that period when he was winning rings, and it is hard not to see that someone like Barkley, or Allen Iverson wouldn't have just as likely a chance to win that ring as Lebron. Where real goats like MJ, you can't remove MJ from the Bulls and see them have any chance of winning those Championships those years. Without MJ, the bulls had zero chance. Where if you take Allen Iverson, and paired him up with Wade, and the rest of the Heat's insane linely those years, and it is easy to see them still winning the years they won... They might not have won the same number of games, but in the post season, most of those guys I listed about performed more clutch in important games then Lebron did.. so... why Lebron is given so much credit by the media is beyond me...

I don’t know… if u have more loses than Wins in the Finals with Superteams? How can u be considered a Winner… if u can only Win 40% when u have a huge advantage against ur matchups? Isn’t that considered a failure, since u came up short and lost more with the odds in ur favor…

@@siner2442 100% Remember when Lebron was holding up his hands talking about winning 7-8-9 rings when he first joined Wade at Miami. I mean, how can you even continue to claim to be the goat after that moment. And now, to claim that 'you didn't have enough help from the "minimal"s', and that is why you lost, when you literally have tape of you claiming you'd win 9 rings with a team that didnt' even have all the talent you added later as well. The degree of arrogance to say that about your past team mates to me just says everything there is to say about Lebron's character... Remember MJ would say that he needed to play better, and that he fell short, man I miss those days. When as big as ego as MJ had, at least he understood to get those accolades he had to earn it himself... Now we have guys who just expect it to be handed to them like some entitled participation trophy for the "GOAT".... as long as he comes up with enough excuses somehow that should be enough for the world to just give him the title ahead of MJ...

Yeah the fact he didnt threepeat in miami hurts his legacy so bad, and 2011. Idk how anyone ranks him the goat his miami stint shouldve produced a threepeat at least

@@lemonscentedgames3641 and the fact they lost to the statistically oldest and worst team to win the Finals in the Mavs.

No he is not

@@TT-dv9er Barkley would disagree with you.

@@jkimo1178 Wimby is too

How many titles for Antman again?

@@sharvav You cannot compare like that. Antman hasn't had the same number of chances for a title. If you're objective....it is obvious who has the killer instinct and who doesn't.

LeBronze, LOL that always cracks me up

AI and Olijawon have legitimate cases too.

Kareem is the GOAT and so is Wilt Chamberlain the only thing is I saw the 90s era and worked my way backwards, LeBum James fans aren't willing to put that effort.

@@afb8370 What no Bill Russell too? I'd love to see LeBron face what he was.

​​@kennethharrison9409 no allen Iverson has no case.

#boomroasted

Well said. 👍👏👏👏👏

Facts !

So true

It's like testing put of a class you failed in the last few weeks and passing. Wasn't there the whole time it mattered but comes in last minute to raise the gpa.

Kobe > Duncan. 7 West titles to 6 West titles. Kobe 4-2 vs Duncan in the playoffs. Bruce Bowen, Tony Parker, Stephen Jackson, all Duncan teammates, have stated on the record Kobe was the best player of their era. That's very telling.

@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Kobe wasn't even the best player with Lakers after Shaq. 7 points a game a rookie didn't start until his 3rd season when Eddie Jones got traded. Kobe never shot 50% in a season, didn't make the playoffs every season, played for 10 different head coaches and only was successful with Phil Jackson.

Let's not forget Oscar, Elgin Baylor, and Jerry West as well. 👍

​@@gilbertbrown4183Really? Kobe is bum ?

@@user-fs8cs1sz7c -- Sorry, I'm a Gen Xer...the world began with Magic and Larry. ;-)

Exactly.

I think the opposite will happen. They'll look at his career stats and assume he was unstoppable. Only people who watched him play will remember him strutting through a weak conference, folding under pressure, and whining to the refs on every play.

At least Tonya was competitive.

@@big8dog887😂😂😂

We can’t disrespect Tonya like that 😂

Whyyyyy

​@@big8dog887True!...😂😂😂

It's also how you take your losses. But in this Trump World Order, grifting and complaining are mainstays with people like him and LeFraud.

An Jordan ain’t get bailed out before by Kerr sound like hate treatment smh it’s called a basket ball TEAM 🤷🏾🤦🏾‍♂️ this man game is past first then score

Your right its a team game. But Jordan wasnt bailed out by Kerr. Bulls werent about to be eliminated and Jordan up to a point led the Bulls and series. unlike the Bulls and Jordan, LeBron had Wade who led games when James could not and Allen hit a huge shot for them to not be eliminated and ultimately win. ​@mookbaby6751

@@mookbaby6751 When Kerr took the shot following MJ's play and assist, the score was 86-86, and the Bulls were winning 3-2. Worst-case scenario: overtime in the United Center, with possible Game 7 again in Chicago as the format was 2-3-2 then. When Allen took the shot after the missed shot by LeBron, the Heat was losing 95-92 and 3-2.

@@mookbaby6751 'pass first' / most career attempted shots all time Better luck next narrative

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I agree totally , I know the greats from thirty years ago would flourish in todays NBA

@@dangreene3895 I always laugh when I see someone argue that todays NBA is so much more talented than previous eras, because of the scoring and amount of 3s. Its the lack of defense and fundamentals in this era that make the scoring. IMO, its to make the game exciting, because it hasnt been since MJ retired. Which is also why they push Lebaby as this superstsar. The void of MJ effect

@@paulkline1522plus all the turnovers and sloppy play

@@paulkline1522 FOR SURE DERANGED TELL ME WHEE WAS JORDAN AT AGE 40 AFTER HE REST 6 YEARS LOAD MANAGED MORE THAN 450 GAMES ??

The league has become soft under the guidance of LeBron

When he quit against the Celtics in 2010, that eliminated from ever being considered the GOAT IMO.

When I saw him quit in the playoffs before leaving for Miami, I lost any respect I had for him as a player. He's only gotten worse over time. It's as easy to see as idk... watching the biggest man on the court flop non stop for loose change from the refs. What a fucking bum, calling yourself the GOAT while begging the refs for fouls and blaming your role players when you lose. Can't even dribble the damn ball, always traveling. Call himself the GOAT. I've seen grade schoolers with more skill than him

U don’t even have to beat Lebron… he’ll just lay down by himself 😂 I couldn’t beleive when him and Wade started faking cramp ups when they were playing the Spurs in the Finals? They had to have an excuse for those old men beating them down and embarrassing them

I've always had Kobe ahead of Bron... It's not even close...LeBron stays leaving his wing man high and dry...

Dont forget MJ forcing a steal on malone to force a buzzer beater that he took and made... in the finals

You said the Top 20 you can’t say that he’s done to much but to me there’s no goat there’s best players of their Era. All the All time great had someone that they learned from and looked up to

When you speak the truth they call you a hater

@@Dipset415 because the truth doesn’t have a filter the lie does have filter…. Individuals like this just want to be delusional that’s fine

LOL, I thought it was just me. That dude barely makes my top 25.

@@markettspikes2876that’s fine if you want to hold this opinion but if I can be frank, it’s a natural thing in sports to consider the question of who is the greatest to ever play the game. Sports is about competition. Why bother competing if winning isn’t important? Now, if we can agree that trying one’s best in the hopes of winning is what truly matters when we think about competing in a sport; then we must ask what does it take to win enough games to come out on top. When we ponder this question we naturally will think of a list of qualities a team needs in order to be better than the other teams they are playing against. Offense Defense Teamwork Hard work (both in games and between games) Along with these obvious ones there is also other intangibles needed to win championships Never give up mentality And killer instinct are two I can think of off the top of my head. Obviously teams are made up of players and having a player which embodies most if not all of these important aspects of winning would begin to bring that player to the top of the list. It’s this which drives the question about GOAT status. To run away from or ignore this is just dismissive. Sure it may be difficult to compare players from different eras but to pretend like there can’t be someone who was/is/or yet to be the greatest to ever do it is IMO lazy and maybe even hurtful to the core of what sports are about. To work so hard that you might be seen as the greatest to ever do something is a quality in humans which move us forward to achieve great things. Few things demonstrate this as sports can. In conclusion I will say that I welcome greatness and want to see greatness “bettered”. I want to see the now GOAT (whoever that is) to be dethroned (pun intended). With that in mind, I see MJ as the GOAT but am looking forward to seeing a player be greater than he was….. it just isn’t James.

He was never a regular joe lol. He was a savant player in HS.

@@upfulsoul826 A savant with horrible fundamentals 21 years later?

​@@upfulsoul826hes not a savant he was jus bigger and athletic that doesn't make u kno the game in and out. Give me his size and u would've seen a savant.

Bingo

@@relicdad88 Keep dreaming...you regular Joe lol.

I also enjoyed the very short AOH cameo.

Love your channel

Lmao ain’t nothing to apologize about it’s all thoughts an opinion’s I mean it’s a lot hate cuz some of y’all have started averaging 13.5 in there 12th season I mean yu gotta still put the work in bums #sorrybutnotsorry

AOH is a legend

yeah I was thinking those are Angry Old Hoops clips. Did he give him a shoutout for them in the video, I missed it if he did. Hope he didn't just rip his clips and make a video off of it lol

He was 'rubbing you off the wrong way' - I see what you mean here

@@user-bj3jv1jn6s pause

Dribbling the ball off his leg while under no pressure and turning to prince and blaming him for the TO.

He's got to go and stop saying that he's 1 of the top 5 noooooo way he's not he's way down at maybe 99 but he's not top 5 stop it

@@georgeleon3724 I got lebum at 1,989th place on my all time greatest ever list. I got 1,988 players in front of him on my all time greatest player list.

Steph is much better

Steph has a phenomenal skill set

Steph > LeBron. Easily.

I’m 37 I remember about 22-23 years of knowing what I see on the court🤙🏿although I didn’t see the live games of Jordan Larry bird Hakeem I have them all over curry🤙🏿then Kobe Duncan and that’s it💯curry is that dude

The warriors was a disaster this year with curry.

Yes but do u remember the 3 he made before that lmao 🤔

That 1 play encapsulates his entire career?

That would of gave Timmy and the boys 6 rings and Lebron would have 3. Ray Allen saved Lebron. Same as Kyrie hitting that 3 against the Warriors

@@Relaxation_Rain_Sleep_Sounds ahh. So, Allen and Irving “saved LeBron.” Just like Paxon and Kerr “saved Jordan.”

To me, his poor treatment of teammates by digging it, giving up and blaming others makes him a poonsniff. Dude would have gotten a beat down in the 80s.

He should be called for a charge every time drives to the hoop also!! Every single time he pushes off

How little criticism he gets, have you seen this comment section.

You’re living in an echo chamber if you think that. There’s so many people who hate on him.

@@mightymochi6320 I’m talking about mainstream media. It’s almost like people don’t want to touch the narrative he might not be the goat. The guy is always quitting on plays. He didn’t give a shit the entire regular season. I don’t hear anything from espn. I don’t hear the popular nba podcasts talking about it. People cover for him. The mainstream is the echo chamber. Pay attentikn

​@@scottbissonnette514have u watched ESPN lately dudes getting burned by all of en

Stephen A, Wilbon, even his ex team at Perk have all been critical, the fuk u talking bout

And wins too that's an important factor not to be discounted.

@@afb8370 No doubt, but winning is the result of the other three and if there's a much better team in the league during your peak it's hard to punish a guy for that. A lot of great players didn't get titles in the nineties - Miller, Malone, Ewing, Stockton, Barkley and there are others.. Also, non-great players can win titles if they have the right people to carry them.

AD is the most disrespected player in the nba because of lebrob

Exactly and if he comes back next year he might be falling to about 15th

*barely top 20.

If he retired 5 years ago,he'd still be top10

​@@RalphKetchumI agree and having 40000 + with one scoring title says it all and should not be ignored

But yet he has the most post season game winners.

Non debatable. All of Jordan accomplishments came in 11½ playing seasons in Chicago besides an all-star in Washington? Until a player comes an take the NBA by storm an pass him in accomplishments in a similar time frame his spot at #1 is safe.

Wilt.

​@@jrr3787Wilt Chamberlain 2 championships, in playoffs his numbers dropped to 22 PPG this is the mighty unstoppable Wilt Chamberlain, why? How? 22 PPG? But wait, finals more interesting 18 PPG. Man if you don't go have a seat somewhere. Wilt Chamberlain is actually version of early LeBron those 2 are very similar. Underwhelming in the biggest moments. The only reason Wilt is top 10 is he was on 2 of the 1st greatest teams ever the 67 Sixers an the 72 Lakers where they had 67 & 69 wins. When the playoffs an Finals start great players play goes to a completely higher level. 30 PPG to 22 PPG to 18 PPG. Keep your excuses and he had the great Jerry West as a teammate. And he played in a era where the players voted for MVP an even they knew Bill Russell was the best 5X they decided this. Dude said Wilt Chamberlain, Shaq won twice as much championships as Wilt. Unbelievable

@@Caleb.612Are we talking greatest player ever or greatest "playoff player ever?" Wilt was on crappy teams most of his career and was triple teamed constantly in the playoffs. Wilt had so many people hanging off his jersey, he couldn't have waved to the crowd. By your logic, the 2nd greatest player ever is Sam Jones. What is "unbelievable" is your willful ignorance. It's okay to be ignorant, but not to remain so purposely.

@@jrr3787wilt was also a stat padder and a playoff choker

And yet the team's defense is usually better with him on the court.