I was WRONG about Unmodified Lids

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Quick video going over my experiences with unmodded lids vs modded ones
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@jessedoherty5072 2 года назад

I literally just did a batch of spawn using the unmodified tech. Everytime I do some work you happen to upload showing me what I couldve done better the next day. It's actually kind of a useful coincidence

@justinbailey1108 2 года назад

I thought I was the only one this seems to happen to all the time.

@CallMePesos 2 года назад

Whenever you’re gonna do some mycology just wait a day next time 🧠🧐

@katjastrand3955 2 месяца назад

@@CallMePesosit's been 2 years of delaying one more day, when do I start? Tomorrow?

@billwinters9379 Год назад

Appreciate your videos they have been a lot of help. I'm about to start my first round. I'll see how well I listened. Had to watch 1 of your videos just on name sake ( I live in Philly myself) but continued because of the great content. Appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

@yourleafyourlife5734 2 года назад

I use a Phillips head screwdriver to pound a couple holes in the top and two layers of micropore and have very little contam(less than 3 percent) and that's with using spore syringes! The success rate would be higher with agar or LC im guessing

@indemwildes9426 2 года назад

I fucking Appreciate you and what are you doing

@nakefatty9167 11 месяцев назад

I remember an old school tec with a single port, packed with 'wadding' which served as an injection port and GE. I never tried it but it looked cumbersome.

@ferdanielhg1 2 года назад

Thanks for the info, I am going to start with modified lids, I am tired of rust and cleaning micropore tape every time I will reuse them

@firstnamelastname5883 2 года назад

I use unmodified but have them in a non airflow incubator totes. Seems to colonize just fine an quick too

@starchylde4538 Год назад

So grateful for this video! So grateful for your channel! Ty 😇

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Год назад

😁🍄

@Hogbellylife 2 года назад

Thanks for the update

@Soul_Contract 2 года назад

Sensei diving in! 🧠💙

@AcrylicGoblin 2 года назад

I've got a batch of spawn going with unmodified metal lids. As soon as I finished inoculating them, I thought "well, this seems like it's going to a big F***ing waste of time, these are bound to contam" so far no contams showing up, but I'm not too confident. Hopefully some make it, but I won't be doing the unmodified lids again.

@AcrylicGoblin 2 года назад

Amazingly, all of the jars made it. I made little tyvek hoods, so that may have helped. After that, I bought some SFDs and RTV'd pieces to plastic lids with quarter inch holes. My jars with these lids seemed to colonize faster. Lion's mane especially seemed to like the extra gas exchange. Definitely worth the time and expense to make proper lids IMO

@jakelooter5139 Год назад

@@AcrylicGoblin yeah it most definitely IS worth the time. even better than RTV (I dont like using it adds a day for cure and it is messy and hard to re-use the tubed since it cures too at the opening), get stick on injection ports, they are for sale all over the internet for around 500 for 20$ or 100 for 10$ or anything you can find. they are very very well made, last a long time, like one sterilization after another, and take seconds to apply, oh, and actually look good, unlike ghetto RTVed ports. Tyvek works great it just looks terrible but I use it for seals I cannot easily get airtight on with any other way (strange mouth shapes primarily). unmodified colonization is crap and contam can come from insects going in through the opening. Significantly suboptimal. Also, contaminated air can enter through the non filtered air. Not a good TEK...

@kristakohlhoff2670 2 года назад

Are there issues using traditional lids with holes punctured and covered with fabric surgical tape?

@charlesdobbs4570 2 года назад

Just made my first lids. Awesome. Have a Safe One.

@brandonjaeger 7 месяцев назад

How do you prevent the filter from getting soaked or leaking for shipping?

@koidotjpeg9944 Год назад

Came here after broke boi tek, would you say that when using unmodified lids, you can go ahead and sceew the lid shut all the way? I know using unmodified lids you normally leave it slightly unscrewed for gas exchange. Thanks!

@ecto969 2 года назад

If I order the special order from Microppose do they deliver the thumbs up in person or is it virtual?

@typerk 2 года назад

I use a cheap paper hole punch to put holes in the metal lids. But I prefer the unmodified way

@akashicrecord2120 2 года назад

I use the unmodified metal ring lids because it works better. You flip the center ring upside down and screw the ring on top to “finger tight”. You get gas exchange, don’t have to worry about vacuum seals, and still get protection from contamination.

@donnyjuan7532 2 года назад

Have you tapped into the akashic? How did you do it purely through mushrooms or other means?

@heloevry1noketa.mineformetoday 2 года назад

@@donnyjuan7532 mushrooms and mescaline cactus and weed (concentrate)

@peppersanches412 Год назад

The fact that this commenter thinks PGT hadn't already heard this 🤣🤣🤣

@slopestyla Год назад

@@peppersanches412 it's in his broke boi tek video lol

@dustingallamy2897 2 года назад

hi, how can you use modded lids with broke boi tek without pressure cooker?

@Angrytoddler 2 года назад

Why do people use one filter and two silicone draw plugs ?

@LuisHernandez-mq9jq 2 года назад

Aluminum foil wrap them after PC and you're good.. especially if you use LC

@richardview1281 2 года назад

I've had about a 97%success rate with the unmodified lids. I keep them on a bookshelf with a towel covering them the whole time.

@richardview1281 2 года назад

@Dave White No, I haven't. Got my syringes from sporeworks

@maxh5197 Год назад

with the towel just touching the jar? asking so i know for next time

@joecucinotta2464 Год назад

Do you leave the tinfoil on the modified lid after you sterilize and inoculate?

@rezidual2596 2 года назад

Hello, I'm using modified lids for my wbs grain spawn (the premade liquid culture lids that have syringe filters for gas exchange) Is this enough air exchange for grain jars? I wasn't sure if I should leave them loose or not, I kept them tightened after PC, and I noticed the jars are taking a couple weeks to colonize a couple inches. I only used 1cc of liquid culture (APE) and the growth took 2 weeks or so to barely start a small corner. I made a mistake not to shake the lc as soon as I inoculated because I thought it was the same as spores, I've since reshaken. I also made a rookie mistake and inoculated a couple hot jars, got 0 growth in those so I shot another 1-2cc in my sab in those 2 jars. Sorry I'm new to this thanks

@swimstud5151 11 месяцев назад

How'd they turn out?

@m3m437 7 месяцев назад

Where do you find plastic lids that can survive 250F?

@vladgeorgiyev731 2 года назад

I enjoy being your student

@richardmullane9279 2 года назад

I love your videos man can you do a video on temperature and watch the best heater cause I keep using heat pads and they’re not good they burn my substrate or keep it to Call in certain areas I was looking at the Honey well 360° heater for a room that’s not that big thank you

@angryjesus5040 2 года назад

Do yourself a favor and get an oil radiator heater. Won't blow humidity out of your tub, and will easily keep a large closet at 78F perfectly.

@calebdavies526 2 года назад

oil heaters are also very efficient

@pat-a-rattat8094 2 года назад

what is the 3 special order options on that site $10,000 per pick

@ScopeKing1994 2 года назад

Aren't bags more flexible anyways?

@calebbutcher5549 Год назад

Hey pgt! Would you be so kind to provide a link to where you got your plastic lids? I'm looking to make my own modified lids and don't know whether i should get ones without a liner or with. Thank you for your time!

@deusexmachina2222 8 месяцев назад

It Appears that pgt uses cheap Walmart lids

@Man-EatingMushroom 2 года назад

Yea I run unmodified lids and you gotta use them in isolated areas, so a shelf that’s been blocked of all airflow. The amount of GE they provide allows for much quicker colonization when compared side by side to a filtered jar…no question. Never any stalling out either. But running filtered jar lids I can set them in less restricted areas and be a bit more lax with em. I use half inch holes and microppose or micropore filters. But folks have stalling or slow growth issues with filtered grains may want to try a larger GE hole or trying unmodified lids in an air-movement-free place.

@bongiig 2 года назад

GE?

@rjennings0142 10 месяцев назад

@@bongiigI'm pretty sure they're meaning "Gass Exchange" Edit: late reply, I know lol

@Drenger7 8 месяцев назад

Thank you, gonna try this! What do you use for strictly g2g? Just a kid with the hole and filter? Also do you have any tips for PCing the different kids?

@Man-EatingMushroom 8 месяцев назад

@@Drenger7 I use popcorn and oats for jars which are master jars inoculated with agar, sometimes I’ll go agar directly to 5lb bags with liquid inoculated / slurry. The master jars get grain to grained into more popcorn jars and bags, and you can use as little as 5-10 kernels or as much as you’d like, more initially making it quicker. I use 5lb bags of whole oats of producers pride from tractor supply and just soak for 18-22ish hr. Popcorn/oat jars pressure cooked 17ish psi for 1hr 40min and the ~5lb oat bags are pc’ed for 2hr 10min.

@Man-EatingMushroom 8 месяцев назад

@@Drenger7 lids are plastic (polypropylene #5 lids) and I use a large hole, like a nickel diameter or even close to half an inch. I do 2 layers of perpendicularly placed micropore tape and cover tightly with foil.

@jmichel70 2 года назад

Thank you

@robbyhanlon 2 года назад

Sensei, are the lid filters water resistant? I have been using micropore tape for my modified lids, but I was concerned about contamination since I am using it for no-pour agar and grain jars. thanks for everything.

@dakotawallace1156 2 года назад

Water resistance shouldn't matter as you still wrap lid with tinfoil. That's the purpose of tinfoil to not let direct water but steam inside

@rjennings0142 10 месяцев назад

@@dakotawallace1156Ah, see this is what I've been curious of. I've been seeing posts around of contamination situations that are most likely from overly moistened micropore tape- as micropore tape is a good option for blocking out contaminants but once it becomes overly saturated the contaminants can get into the containers through the liquid. But I've been thinking to myself, "how would one get around micropore tape getting moisture/saturated while pressure cooking when it's a high moisture environment from the steam?". I was thinking the solution would be to allow the cooker to fully cool and evaporate any condensation but the time and condensation itself would make that challenging. So you're saying steam in the pressure cooker is fine, but only with tin foil to block direct contact from water droplets- and with this wouldn't this thought process need to be carried out through the entire colonization processes (avoiding filter saturation) which use some form of filter?

@dakotawallace1156 10 месяцев назад

@rjennings0142 I myself have never noticed any saturation on my filters. I have always just used 0.3 μm filters I got from Amazon. I'm sure it is possible for them to become saturated tho. Do some researching to see if certain rate and thickness filters can cause it and if others are a better choice

@timm5358 2 года назад

How much effort does it take to drill a few holes? It takes just a few minutes.. better than finding out your jar still contaminated after having patiently waited for a week.. and the effort of prepping grain spawn. Unmodified worked for me.. but why not rule out that contamination factor.

@peppersanches412 2 года назад

Well it took me 51 years to rationalize getting a drill. Lol.

@RoyalX1gaming 2 года назад

I'm subscribed and literally not seeing any of your new uploads in my feed. quite sad.

@AudieSwan Год назад

When using the modified lids do you still cover the lid with foil and loosen the lid before sterilization?

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Год назад

You can cover them with foil, but you should tighten modified lids since they have a filter that allows gas exchange

@corymatela 2 года назад

So all this time I was worried about plastic lids melting in the pressure cooker. The plastic really can withstand the pc heat?

@wickedglass 2 года назад

Make sure they're pp5 polypropylene lids. I've used them for years, they're great.

@rastak4895 2 года назад

Great content as always. I've used modded lids ever since learning the easy lid tek. Modded lids all the way for me. Anytime I've opened a jar I get trich...

@rastak4895 2 года назад

@Dave White the lid will have a rubber stopper on top for a needle to go in and pull out the LC and your grain jar should have modded lid to inject your LC into.

@rastak4895 2 года назад

@Dave White I buy the pre sterilized needles off Amazon and use a new needle every time. You can heat the tip with a torch and let it cool to sterilize it if you don't have a supply of needles around.

@rastak4895 2 года назад

@Dave White the plunger can be wiped with an alcohol swab/pads.

@sethhaze1610 Год назад

So do you tighten your modified lids all the way before they go in the pressure cooker?

@kenyenmusic7548 2 года назад

For my very first ever successful grow i had EIGHT grain jars and SEVEN of those bitches got contaminated 😂 and the last one had a tiny bit of contam on the bottom so i just avoided that part when transfering to substrate.

@jakelooter5139 Год назад

you need to sharpen your techniques and eliminate contamination vectors. this is NOT easy, it is microbiology. most people quit first time they try because of contamination. figure out which one you got, what the risk factor for it is, and eliminate it and proceed

@lloydshackleton9554 Год назад

I had one successful jar out of 7 last time. I struggled with storage temperatures. (Live in an old farm house) and I overcooked my rice because I did too much at once. But this year I've got a butt load of beautiful agar cups from a print I saved. Anything worth doing is worth doing badly -Bukowski

@datdaokid 2 года назад

I used a 30oz jar with a modded metal lid. There’s just a teeny amount of rust around the injection part, is it trashed now?

@germonmarshall9492 2 года назад

It can still work.. .try not to let the grains touch the rust at the top when your breaking them apart. I had the same thing but everything is going fine so far after I placed them in substrate.

@datdaokid 2 года назад

@@germonmarshall9492 gives me the heebie jeebies, those 30oz jars take some time lol

@rjennings0142 10 месяцев назад

@@germonmarshall9492Think some sort of coating would be worth it to prevent rust? Think it would hold up in a PC?

@gold4rs8733 2 года назад

are you still foiling these bad boys when pressure cooking, and while they colonize?

@sn4ppydr3w66 2 года назад

Was wondering the same. I do on modified lids every time but the micropore on top seems to get soaked even with the foil. I've heard that's bad and can allow contams in when wet, but haven't had a problem yet.

@creampielover69 2 года назад

@@sn4ppydr3w66 Put some paper towels between your foil and the lid. The jars at the bottom may get the towel a bit wet but I noticed the jars further up come out completely dry without a drop on the micropore tape.

@gregmcb5305 2 года назад

What happened to the mycelium in those jars you couldn’t open???!

@timbo7239 2 года назад

Hey man, I’ve been following your videos and just got my second flush, but my shrooms are barely potent. I’ve dehydrated for 24hrs and picked as the veil broke but they are extremely weak any tips?

@channelnumber52 2 года назад

This could be bad genes. It could also be the way you dried them. Try cutting your mushrooms in half vertically. I do this and then dry them in a dehydrator at 115-120F. I've had some monster shrooms, and none take longer than 12 hours to totally dry when I cut them in half. Also, maybe try some of your mushrooms fresh to see if they just weren't potent to begin with.

@timm5358 2 года назад

what about a nice outdoor bed of woodlovers.. easy does it, or JCM's FC with pans. Just stop growing cubes.. cubes suck.

@peppersanches412 2 года назад

Tim M unless the whole point of doing all this is because psilocybin is illegal and you need it for lifelong panic and anxiety, because psilocybin has NEUROGENESIS capabilities. My god, everyone is DIFFERENT lol. All people want happiness, not all people want a psychedelic experience. Been there done that 35 years ago.

@ChaunceySir Год назад

Hi Timbo, your dehydration temperature could maybe be too high. I don't know the exact temperature that causes the active molecules to break down, but it's surprisingly low. Try dehydrating with no heat and just a fan. Hope this helps!

@rjennings0142 10 месяцев назад

@@ChaunceySirThis! Paper bag and a refrigerator- or a fan like you said, right?

@sethhaze1610 Год назад

With the modified lids I'm assuming you tighten the lids all the way before they go in the pressure cooker right?

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Год назад

Yes you tighten for modified lids! 🙏

@sethhaze1610 Год назад

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Thank you so much. Your videos have taught me everything I need to know.

@matteocicchetti2086 Год назад

Can i do broke boy tek with mod lids?

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Год назад

Yes 🙏🍄

@naturallyopie 2 года назад

Do y’all keep your colonizing jars in a certain temp and or humidity or just let them run at room temp?

@deavenhayes8187 2 года назад

Room temp closest

@deavenhayes8187 2 года назад

Closet

@Sludge73 2 года назад

Mod lids get you closer to bag life. Easy to shoot LC in.

@fennten8338 2 года назад

well god damn it dude now i gotta change opinions

@calebbutcher5549 Год назад

So I'm able to pressure cook the modified lids correct? Just want to make sure

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Год назад

Yes 🙏

@calebbutcher5549 Год назад

You're the goat thank you for responding!

@datdaokid 2 года назад

Yo PGT if you ever need help with ur audio for vids, I got you!

@kenyenmusic7548 2 года назад

Couldnt you just wrap micropore tape around the outer part of an unmodified jar?

@rjennings0142 10 месяцев назад

Right!? I've been partially expecting to see this practice somewhere on RU-vid- its basically the same as "sealing" agar plates with parafilm or micropore tape

@derekreisinger2034 11 месяцев назад

Do u pressure cook these

@PhillyGoldenTeacher 11 месяцев назад

Yes

@ErenJaeger87163 6 месяцев назад

@@PhillyGoldenTeacherAny reason not to just use the metal lids they came with a drill holes in those? I don't like the idea of pressure cooking the plastic ones but will if it's needed over the metal.

@atomcatz69 2 года назад

Go team modified lids.

@thecatsbackyard4833 Год назад

Yay lids \o/

@PhillyGoldenTeacher Год назад

\o/

@thecatsbackyard4833 11 месяцев назад

@@PhillyGoldenTeacherhey I know I'm just a random sub here but; can you use eggshells that have been grinded in a coffee bean grinder as a calcium supplement? Appreciate your time.

@TheJoYo 2 года назад

Quit putting holes in otherwise useful lids. I never pressure cook my jars with their lids. Most lids can only be pressure cooked once. Some tinfoil over the top is all you need for the pressure cook. Pierce the foil for inoculation then put a sanitized lid over the foil. Once you are sure there is no infection the foil can be removed to apply a better seal.

@sergioi7377 2 года назад

the plastic ones warp for sure but what about the metal lids? how well do they hold up in a pressure cooker over time

@TheJoYo 2 года назад

@@sergioi7377 use aluminum foil as a lid for the PC. the metal lids that come with the mason jars have wax that melt off.

@brocktittle8854 2 года назад

Hmmmm!

@blind1337nedm 2 года назад

a person would never call themselves sensai! they would say "kyoushi"

@justincash1573 2 года назад

You can admit to being wrong about your unmodified lid tek but not your 321 recipe?!?!

@matthewrick 2 года назад

That recipe has worked flawlessly for me for a year running

@justincash1573 2 года назад

@@matthewrick wym no way bro I followed that recipe exactly and got runny ass plates. Was there something I'm not seeing??

@BlueberryBumblebees 2 года назад

@@justincash1573 maybe you’re using the ingredients listed in grams, as well as the water he used in his batch? I think he tripled his batch, so he used three times the water, but I can see how someone who is more of a visual learner would’ve mistakenly used the increased water with the original measurements.

@justincash1573 2 года назад

@@BlueberryBumblebees I used 3 g of potato flakes 2 g of agar agar and 1 g of corn syrup to a half cup of water as directed.

@justincash1573 2 года назад

@@BlueberryBumblebees when you say "maybe you're using the listed ingredients in grams" are you implying I should use ounces??