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"Ice Princess" was a Surprisingly Mean Moment for Disney 😬 

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2005 was definitely a weird moment for Disney, with Ice Princess being a surprisingly judgementa story featuring a thinly veiled Tonya Harding stand in, played by Kim Cattral. Let' watch as Casey seemingly becomes a pro skater in just a matter of days, in a movie that feels completely generic, and forgettable. As always, don't forget to like and subscribe! Become a member of my Patreon for exclusive bonus content and extras delivered every month! bit.ly/nickpatreon
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@JusticeForDinner
@JusticeForDinner 2 года назад
I’m glad you brought up the fact that Harvard was made out to be the ONLY acceptable school. As a Canadian child, based on the media I was watching, I genuinely thought that you only got to apply to ONE university ONE time and if they rejected you, you were black listed from academia
@mindyobusiness6257
@mindyobusiness6257 2 года назад
Omg that sounds incredibly dramatic ! I agree. As a fellow Canadian we don’t really have a cult like perception of higher education.. like… i’m sorry the IVY League, a LEAGUE for educational establishments ?
@Marinlss
@Marinlss 2 года назад
I'm south american and this is honestly how I think the american university system works.You only have one shot and will be filled with debts for the rest of your life
@kit922
@kit922 2 года назад
@@Marinlss legit
@sporadic001
@sporadic001 2 года назад
@@Marinlss well...the latter part isn't too far off lmfaoo
@giaparmer
@giaparmer 2 года назад
@@mindyobusiness6257 yeah and the ONLY two difference, the literal only two differences. Is that somewhere like the university of Arkansas is 35k (out of state), last I checked Harvard was 66k. The other difference is that you’re paying more for a network of people just as elitist as you who might want to usher you into that way of life after you graduate. It’s actually v weird when you think about it so they just condition us in America to think we’re lazy and low achievers for thinking about it 😂 And studies on Ivy League and state education show that there isn’t a discernible difference in the curriculum taught, only the networking. Not to mention that sweet sweet gentrification. I had an identity crisis as a homeless teen failing school realizing I was never going to go to Cornell and it took me years to get over it.
@cutecheerfreak1
@cutecheerfreak1 2 года назад
So why can’t she study physics at Harvard and ice skate? She seems to actually love physics, also most collegiate athletes successfully complete their degrees. There is absolutely no conflict here.
@tabathaalshalhoub1653
@tabathaalshalhoub1653 2 года назад
Because if she had 2 interests, that would confuse the simple minded audience.
@crazylatingirl94
@crazylatingirl94 2 года назад
I think it speaks to that fear a lot of parents have of their kids not being able to balance multiple things or not allowing their kids to have a hobby unless it's directly related to school or a career. Her mom definitely has a lot of moments like that where she clearly cares about her kid but it preoccupied with her doing everything "right" and focusing on school ONLY. I think it makes sense that her mom was so up in arms about it because she probably fears Casey will end up putting academics to the side for figure skating (which she probably doesn't respect as a career had Casey actually wanted to pursue that) or that at the very least her having a hobby will get in the way of her academics and be harmful. I don't agree with this mindset but I think it's very realistic and unfortunately very common
@settheworldonfire94
@settheworldonfire94 2 года назад
Elite figure skaters and gymnasts basically spend the equivalent of a 40-hour work week training. That doesn’t leave a whole lot of room for a school as rigorous as Harvard. Someone on track for the Olympics (as was implied of Casey in the movie) is not the same as a college athlete. In NCAA gymnastics, for example, college teams have limits on how many hours per week they can spend training. If her desired path was the Olympics, then there is a conflict. That said, it’s not like she couldn’t go to college after.
@bloodyneptune
@bloodyneptune 2 года назад
Probably because skaters training to be good enough to make it to they Olympics, the they made it seem like she was, train 30-40 hours a week.
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 2 года назад
Because it’s hard
@nadialakeclement9475
@nadialakeclement9475 2 года назад
In regards to Casey’s mom, I actually think it’s pretty accurate to have a “feminist” mom look down upon teenage girls in what she sees as a frivolous, feminine activity. I grew up around a lot of moms like that… It’s clearly a form of deep-seated internalized misogyny, and maybe it comes from an antiquated idea that the way to get ahead as a woman is to try to succeed in masculine fields? Anyway, I didn’t see it as a character discontinuity, but rather an accurate portrayal of women who like to think of themselves as feminist, but actually are insecure and have so much internalized misogyny that they look down upon other women for choosing to participate in those types of activities.
@quin_e
@quin_e 2 года назад
you’re right. she’s the kind of “feminist” that say they support all women* *excluding trans women, anybody that isn’t white, sex workers, women in traditionally feminine roles etc its misogyny turned full circle
@galaxyocicat5660
@galaxyocicat5660 2 года назад
Basically white girlboss feminism
@briaweea02
@briaweea02 2 года назад
I sorted through the comments just to see if someone pointed this out! It is pure internalized misogyny
@JeanPaulBeaubier
@JeanPaulBeaubier 2 года назад
@@quin_e I would say that the mother character is also just really in line with mainstream "feminist" ideas of the mid-2000s. That was "Stupid Girls" by P!nk era where a large portion of people claiming 'girl power' were really just throwing other women under the bus if they were seen as vapid or sexual in the ~wrong way~
@BeautifulSilence
@BeautifulSilence 2 года назад
In the interest of sharing feminist history, y'all are very accurately identifying the problematic aspects of second-wave feminism. The more you know and all~ 🌈⭐
@Emymagdalena
@Emymagdalena 2 года назад
As an adult now, it’s hilarious. But I actually don’t mind Casey’s lightbulb moment connection between physics and ice skating being presented as groundbreaking bc it teaches young kids to look for those exciting connections in the world.
@salemsmith7085
@salemsmith7085 2 года назад
im not going to lie- this movie made me fall in love with physics. i even started takign it as my major before i had health issues
@freezerounds
@freezerounds 2 года назад
these bots are a nuisance
@funlover163
@funlover163 2 года назад
@@freezerounds that they are
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 2 года назад
Yeah when you’re a kid (and hell even most adults) you don’t realize the connections the world has yet. Especially when school is beyond terrible at making them for students…
@giaparmer
@giaparmer 2 года назад
@@salemsmith7085 me too!! It made me feel cool To correlate physics equations with real World scenarios.
@crazyfun95
@crazyfun95 2 года назад
The most insulting part of this film is them trying to convince us Michelle Trachtenberg isn't conventionally gorgeous without putting a little eye shadow on her lids.
@RichV20
@RichV20 Год назад
She's not hot, buts she's not a dog either.
@cherryjello777
@cherryjello777 2 года назад
Michelle Trachtenberg playing the "ugly" girl is so wrong; she is so gorgeous.
@shareetz3154
@shareetz3154 2 года назад
i know right??
@andS7
@andS7 2 года назад
She was never made out to be “ugly” more invisible or plain in the background. She’s obviously the prettiest of them all.
@guppy2816
@guppy2816 2 года назад
Her mom is an old school feminist so in her eyes sports like figure skating, cheer, etc. objectify women. That part of the movie actually resignated with me as a kid because my mom was the same. I desperately wanted to do cheer and pageants and my mom wouldn't let me because "feminism".
@katc2040
@katc2040 2 года назад
I mean cheer and pagenting in particular are reasonable
@ThexDynastxQueen
@ThexDynastxQueen 2 года назад
@@katc2040 Reasonable as in good or reasonable as in yeah don't do those. I can get the latter at least with pageants cause that world is...just...ahhh.
@JDM-is-my-name
@JDM-is-my-name 2 года назад
@@ThexDynastxQueen cheerleaders usually get very sexualist or I can understand that one pretty well in that regard, but being a cheerleader does give you a lot of athletic experience Pageants in general are all about objectificating of women (and children and toddlers because people are a bit fucked up), so that one I'm 100% behind If we stopped objectificating cheerleaders, especially female cheerleaders, there wouldn't be a problem at all :)
@karilynn9711
@karilynn9711 2 года назад
@@ThexDynastxQueen Child pageants are trash, but I started doing local pin-up pageants in my mid-20s and you won't find a better group of women. It all depends on the framing.
@LiarJudas666
@LiarJudas666 2 года назад
@@JDM-is-my-name cheerleading is also one of the most dangerous things to do
@tentinybees
@tentinybees 2 года назад
this movie inspired me to go ice skating, and i clung to the wall the entire time and never ice skated again 🤗 always love ur breakdowns!!
@ayannabranchcomb7535
@ayannabranchcomb7535 2 года назад
Lmaooo I made my parents buy me skates and took 0 classes 😂
@NickDiRamioTV
@NickDiRamioTV 2 года назад
Hahaha inspirational! Thank you so much!!
@dany56698
@dany56698 2 года назад
@@sohotimhot7975 r u on drugs
@SoftxBunny
@SoftxBunny 2 года назад
@@dany56698 nope, they're a bot. Report them so RU-vid can figure it out. ✌🏻
@ThexDynastxQueen
@ThexDynastxQueen 2 года назад
I remember begging my mom to let me go on a field trip to an ice rink when this came out where she correctly asserted, _"But...you don't know how to skate"_ but I wouldn't stand for her facts and she let me go. It was insanely cold (I live in FL, my body was confused), I also clung to the wall and never skated again lol.
@amelia3146
@amelia3146 2 года назад
I have been thinking about this movie for YEARS, to the point I thought I just made it up as a kid??? But the visual of her blisters with the new skates was so vivid. it haunted me
@tentinybees
@tentinybees 2 года назад
OMG THE BLISTERS they scarred me 💀
@jagodam5837
@jagodam5837 2 года назад
Oml I remember being addicted to this film when I was younger but only found it again recently. And yep I 100% was terrified of ice skating for a while because of those blisters
@danielapardo9776
@danielapardo9776 2 года назад
Me too. I would look away in that part, it made me gag.
@Greystorm1619
@Greystorm1619 2 года назад
BRO SAME
@JDM-is-my-name
@JDM-is-my-name 2 года назад
Me too! I randomly saw this movie on Disney and I never saw it again, so I was somewhat sure that it was a fever dream or something, lol It wasn't even the first time I had that experience, I just accepted too many times that I made up entire movies
@bloodycoffee9293
@bloodycoffee9293 2 года назад
As a kid I never realized she got into ice skating because of a project. I always thought the film was about the struggles of entering a highly competitive sport as a teen or adult because you love the sport, but your passion is constantly buried under imposter syndrome. You're surrounded by people who've been doing this since they were babies and their parents act like ice skating is the end all be all, and it's hard to feel like you'll ever be able to do what you love in peace. The plots that kids can come up with, I really thought this was a better movie than it was.
@irishalchemy
@irishalchemy 2 года назад
That is a fantastic interpretation of the movie, I definitely prefer it to the actual plot!
@BKupchuck57
@BKupchuck57 2 года назад
honestly i had a very similar attachment and interpretation!! i still think it's pretty great
@astoldbynickgerr
@astoldbynickgerr 2 года назад
I thought this was the point of the film too 💀
@solarmoth4628
@solarmoth4628 2 года назад
I feel like it’s still the B plot when you watch the movie.
@misslolmomo
@misslolmomo 2 года назад
Right me too I believe it was too advanced for an average child to understand
@ViperBun
@ViperBun 2 года назад
The mom was only bitter because she wanted a Ballerina Barbie, but got Malibu Barbie instead. She wasn't Malibu, she was a Ballerina
@boniboni4912
@boniboni4912 2 года назад
You fucking win 🤣🤣🤣
@Beelzebubbly
@Beelzebubbly 2 года назад
The laugh I had to stifle!!!! I'm deaaaad!!
@pyroshayniac1090
@pyroshayniac1090 2 года назад
Graceful, DELICATE!!
@dawnboyer3190
@dawnboyer3190 2 года назад
That’s what happened to Casey’s dad, another victim of The Black Widow
@1hawtMetz
@1hawtMetz 2 года назад
👏👏👏 ohhh myyy. That ref was such a deep cut it needs stitches that was clever and 🤌💋 haha
@nonalolagirl
@nonalolagirl 2 года назад
To be fair it makes complete sense why Casey can skate in the beginning but sucks when it comes to the lessons. I'm naturally decent at ice skating but I can't do any tricks. I really wanted to learn more, so I took lessons this winter and they make everyone start off with the basics, literally marching across the ice like a toddler. I was slipping and falling when I was learning some of the basics because I had never learned them in structured and 'proper' way. Learning how to properly manuever my feet, how to move my arms to balance myself, and where to shift my weight kinda threw me off. Then my instructor thought something a bit harder would be difficult for me but it's all I do when I skate on my own so I actually was good at something harder but bad at something easier since I had no reason to do the easy things before-as I already knew how to stop, stand, balance and pick up speed. Overall, my natural way of wanting to skate wouldn't make it possible for me to work up towards spins and jumps, so I appreciated learning and getting used to the basics/building blocks.
@JDM-is-my-name
@JDM-is-my-name 2 года назад
I think this is a very common thing. For example with math, my sister can't do easy/basic math but if it's more complicated, she can do it flawlessly, lol Also with reading, another rof my sisters are dyslexic, but she can read big words, it's the smaller everyday words that bothers her
@liaisanxious425
@liaisanxious425 2 года назад
I was looking for comments like this. I love iced skating as a kid and this movie motivated me. It's ok to be good at parts of ice skating but have trouble with other aspects.
@locsoluv94
@locsoluv94 2 года назад
I've always been a good singer, but I struggled when I started training in opera. The way I sang for most of my life involved a lot of tension and it was hard to unlearn those unhealthy habits AND learn a healthy technique. So I completely get it.
@randomchick901
@randomchick901 2 года назад
As a physics major I can confirm that her whole “physics theory” is basically just one of the most common class demos for introductory physics classes
@realMacMadame
@realMacMadame 2 года назад
And all skating coaches know that you bring your arms in to speed up the spin.
@malena6539
@malena6539 2 года назад
well we kids that barely can do basic maths don't know that so it's totally believable for us that that is hard physics 💀
@abcdefgh-fb5ny
@abcdefgh-fb5ny 2 года назад
ikr it’s honestly insulting to me (as someone applying to harvard) that people like her are portrayed to be accepted. like it’s not that easyyy 😭
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 2 года назад
@@abcdefgh-fb5ny It’s clear that her grades are why she’s getting into Harvard, not her last minute connection of skating and physics. The real thing you should be mad about is how easy they make training to be a professional skater be. Like everyone in her team has been there for years and she’s on the same level in weeks to months?
@nataliyanabakova7419
@nataliyanabakova7419 Год назад
@@DeathnoteBB LITERALLY
@lauryntonio
@lauryntonio 2 года назад
i thought i hadn't seen this movie but the first shot of michelle caused me to have a memory of 2005 so vivid that i'm suddenly wearing juicy couture
@alyzu4755
@alyzu4755 2 года назад
Meg Cabot (who wrote the "Princess Diaries" books) wrote the original screenplay. She said that everything was changed except for the fact that she ends up with the Zamboni guy. ☺️
@findyourcenterbbc8483
@findyourcenterbbc8483 2 года назад
I swear all of megs writting ends us so far removed from her orginal vision avalon high, princess diaries and now this.
@alyzu4755
@alyzu4755 2 года назад
@@findyourcenterbbc8483 Right?!?!?!
@imsmolandangery4274
@imsmolandangery4274 2 года назад
I was thinking about Meg Cabot because the mom was copy passed from her series with the brain swapped models!
@ondatheworld
@ondatheworld 2 года назад
Now I really wanna read the original screenplay
@maggiekarabel123
@maggiekarabel123 2 года назад
@@findyourcenterbbc8483 The Princess Diaries is the first time a movie legitimately pissed me off. WHY would you change the story so much when the book was already really good?
@kelsiemcveety999
@kelsiemcveety999 2 года назад
The fact that this ice rink had salads, let alone chickpeas, is a HUGE step up from all the rinks I've ever been to. I was lucky if they had nachos
@Nerdy12
@Nerdy12 2 года назад
I love how Casey’s family is portrayed as “broke” when they still live in a nice house on a single income while the mother is a professor which is a job that makes six figures
@TheRaquelephant
@TheRaquelephant 2 года назад
I am so sorry to inform you academia actually pays shit
@ashboren6845
@ashboren6845 2 года назад
@@TheRaquelephant professors can actually be paid very well depending on location! iirc it is def possible to get into the low six figure range as a university professor in connecticut
@joshuacoldwater
@joshuacoldwater Год назад
Please remember this was 2005- the average professor salary was just over $68,000
@RichV20
@RichV20 Год назад
Depends on what kind of professor and what type of school. She probably wasn't making 6-figures. More like $50-70k. And she probably was grinding for a while to even get to that salary and position. Probably some lean decade before that.
@fuzzycatbutts
@fuzzycatbutts Год назад
​@@ashboren6845 A six figure salary is incredibly unlikely for the vast majority of professors in the United States, regardless of location.
@CatTheEpicRamenNinja
@CatTheEpicRamenNinja 2 года назад
As a kid, I made up this subplot that Joan was the skater that Blonde Coach Mom Tanya Harding'ed and _that_ was why she was so mad Casey wanted to be a skater. You know, because there was no other reason to be mad. Obviously. 8 year old me gave the movie too much credit. 23 year old me can never unfeel the sheer dispointment of realizing that cool character arch never existed
@solarmoth4628
@solarmoth4628 2 года назад
I thought that too. Turns out her mum is just a boring block of wood.
@justanotherhalloqueen
@justanotherhalloqueen 2 года назад
I thought that too!
@zuglymonster
@zuglymonster 2 года назад
That's exactly what I thought was going to happen or at least she was friends with the girl who the coach mom hurt. Has SOME connection to it, but no she's just a weird I've skating hater
@nerdybirdnerd916
@nerdybirdnerd916 2 года назад
Is this another one of those shared childhood memories bc I thought the exact same thing
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 2 года назад
Between this and that Ugly Rick episode of Rick and Morty, did “character arc” get Mandela Effect’d to “arch” since I last checked?
@CarlyOriginal
@CarlyOriginal 2 года назад
I never understood why Casey’s mom was so against skating when every college looks at extracurriculars. It would’ve been great for her scholarship and college apps to show that she had great grades and played a competitive sport
@blackgirlmagicc
@blackgirlmagicc 5 месяцев назад
It think it is that her mum is that 90s/00s “feminist” where she sees sports like figure skating as frivolous and demeaning to women like she clearly has no issue with her skating casually but taking up figure skating as sport a very time consuming sport isn’t worth it
@pierrotcrow
@pierrotcrow 4 месяца назад
​@@blackgirlmagicc I think the movie also downplays just how time consuming sports that aren't part of the school's extracurriculars are if you're putting in the work needed to be a strong competitor. I've known a number of people who were figure skaters, ballet dancers, gymnasts, etc. who would frequently have to leave early or miss days of school for practice, competitions, and/or performances. My best friend's younger brother is a very serious ballet dancer, and he actually did most of his junior and senior years of high school through online courses because he got a position in our city's ballet company's day school program. there's really would be no realistic way for Casey to keep her grades up and do the kind of academic work that would get her a Harvard scholarship while also being seriously competitive in skating. I think if that had been more clearly conveyed in the film, her mom's worries about Casey maintaining her scholarship would be a lot more understandable.
@CantFightTheNarwhals
@CantFightTheNarwhals 2 года назад
This movie was so sapphic in nature. I rewatched it’s a few years ago with my mom and we both sat in mutual silence until she said “Well this is why nobody was surprised you were gay aurora you watched shit like this”
@CantFightTheNarwhals
@CantFightTheNarwhals 2 года назад
The love interest feels so forced and let’s be honest the rivalry was flimsy at best and so queer coded.
@rorolilred
@rorolilred 2 года назад
@@CantFightTheNarwhals between the two mums or between Casey and Jen? I haven't seen this film in a while, maybe I should rewatch it 🤔
@ollieno971
@ollieno971 2 года назад
Lmao
@ollieno971
@ollieno971 2 года назад
@@CantFightTheNarwhals rightt
@katharineeavan9705
@katharineeavan9705 2 года назад
Exactly. When Nick mentioned the makeover scene I'm like, Nick she wasn't trying to give her a makeover, she was trying to get her hands all over her crush and get all up close and personal and then she called her hot. The point was not the eyeliner
@roscoedacat8288
@roscoedacat8288 2 года назад
I assumed that the mothers were a lesbian couple and they each got pregnant and then broke up, each taking one girl. So this is like the Parent Trap😂
@rorolilred
@rorolilred 2 года назад
Ok I love this
@justanotherhalloqueen
@justanotherhalloqueen 2 года назад
The way I cackled 🤣
@shareetz3154
@shareetz3154 2 года назад
i’m gonna need someone to write this screenplay bc it’s a fabulous idea lmaoo
@Emymagdalena
@Emymagdalena 2 года назад
I don’t know why, but I always assumed the mom had tried to figure skate when she was younger and couldn’t cut it / was a direct rival with Tonya Harding look alike.
@Aelffwynn
@Aelffwynn 2 года назад
Probably because she seemed so adversarial with her, when she really didn't have to be!
@danielapardo9776
@danielapardo9776 2 года назад
My 6 year old brain thought that she had stole her man 💀.
@ThexDynastxQueen
@ThexDynastxQueen 2 года назад
Yeah I thought she was a skater but Walmart brand Tonya Harding cheated her out of winning or something and she didn't want her daughter to experience the same ugly competition but no lol.
@juliusweiss5447
@juliusweiss5447 2 года назад
I don’t know why, but the explanation of what this movie is about just finally made me realize Disney was really out here wildin’ with their movie concepts back in the day and no one said a thing. 😂
@ThexDynastxQueen
@ThexDynastxQueen 2 года назад
When you gotta release a movie a month you just start throwing everything at the wall lol. Speaking of companies tho. Billions of dollars for this hellsite that will automatically detect every copyrighted piece of film/music ever yet Google still can't figure out how to actually stop bots :/
@alexisd6106
@alexisd6106 2 года назад
I mean think about it. Like wtf was Smart House..??? A robot house becomes a psycho mom??
@eatgymtwerk5567
@eatgymtwerk5567 2 года назад
@@alexisd6106 hey hey hey….. smart house is a great classic dcom movie lol. We shall not slander it lol
@Amsayy
@Amsayy 2 года назад
This movie gave me a figure skating hyper fixation that never left. Also how do you not mention that she was also Georgina Sparks in Gossip Girl. Which reminds me, cover gossip girl. Even just an episode. Or the finale.
@piersnivans5983
@piersnivans5983 2 года назад
I think him not mentioning gossip girl was a joke lol like she is just the girl from small Disney movies
@nanaxo937
@nanaxo937 2 года назад
She was also Dawn in Buffy the Vampire Slayer!
@celinahatton2653
@celinahatton2653 2 года назад
@@nanaxo937 he mentioned that.
@austy9367
@austy9367 2 года назад
My hands are both up - RAISED HIGH - for the reason that I second this request for a Gossip Girl (2007) clip breakdown! My vote of YES for any episode as well! But honestly would love a clip breakdown and/or a VERSUS + COMPARISON of both Gossip Girl (2007) and Gossip Girl (2021)!
@AD-lb8xs
@AD-lb8xs 2 года назад
Ok but same on the fixation
@chanandler-bong
@chanandler-bong 2 года назад
ice princess and go figure overlap so much in my head & i wanted nothing more than to be a delicate ice skater directly bc of them lmao god tier filmography
@cau1471
@cau1471 2 года назад
Just wanna say, on the moms feminism and her saying she would throw up if her daughter dressed like the skaters, I think its because, back in 2005, the stereotype of a feminist was completely against most feminine things; like makeup, fashion, etc. Were seen as things that solely catered to the male gaze. Its only fairly recently (within the last ten or so years) that feminism has really evolved into what it is now; the belief that women and men are equal, AND that stereotypically feminine things aren't bad, and that women are allowed and should be able to make their own choices with the same support no matter what that choice is (so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else) Idk if that makes sense I just got home from work and im a bit stoned lol
@grantmegan91
@grantmegan91 2 года назад
I mean.... Maybe if in 2005 you thought feminism was being "not like other girls." But feminism has literally always been women of all walks of life making their own independent choices. I think there have always been and will always be a small section of people who think being feminine would be a negative thing, but that's internalized misogyny and truly the complete opposite of feminism.
@cau1471
@cau1471 2 года назад
@@grantmegan91 i just wanna say, I agree. I did specify that the STEREOTYPE of feminism, especially in 05, was that feminists were very masculine, and hated femininity. The thing is, you're rewriting history with your "feminism has always been about independent womens' right to choose what they want without judgement" because, frankly, that's not true. Showing a lot of skin used to be seen as trying to appeal to the male gaze, rather than the fact that some women just like the clothes, if that makes sense? Women choosing to be a stay at home mom were looked down on by feminists. I'm not describing "not like other girls" or "pick mes", im describing what the stereotype of feminists used to be. I'm also just pointing out that feminism has not always been what it is today. Secular feminism is very new in comparison to the full scope of history. Look into 'white feminism', look into the history of feminism from an unbiased perspective, there are so many branches to feminism. Just because feminism wasn't always what it is today doesn't mean that feminism is bad. It, like everything in the world, has changed and evolved over the years. We should be happy that secular feminism has grown so much, that the voices of trans women and women of colour are no longer ignored, but listened to. As a woman of canadian first nations descent, I know im very grateful for the light which has been shun on missing and murdered indigenous women and girls due to the changes in our times. Anyway, like I said, im stoned. I'm not looking to fight. I hope you have a lovely night, or day, depending on where you are in the world
@gillian7662
@gillian7662 2 года назад
@@cau1471 i really agree with your analysis!! i have vivid memories from media between 2000-2010 since i was a very impressionable tween/teen girl during that time lol. I think because the mainstream fashion was so girly and hyperfeminine - think Paris Hilton, snookie from Jersey shore, Britney Spears - people reacted in a way that was very anti-pink, anti-makeup, anti-anything that was more traditionally feminine. I remember seeing SNL, Joan Rivers, The View, and all those talk shows and late night shows absolutely roasting and tearing down women for being feminine. The majority of messages the media fed me were that "girly" = trashy, dumb, annoying, and that real women didnt wear pink, tight clothes, or care about their hair or makeup. Those things contributed to the male gaze, and women should try to reject anything feminine. That era of feminism actually *gave* me a "not like other girls" complex when I hit middle/high school, and it took years to break down my biases and realize how rooted in misogyny I was. In fact, NLOGs are the 2010s result of early 2000s feminist thought, and I'd say only in the last few years has our culture even acknowledged that women are allowed to be whatever they want and like whatever they want. That line of thinking had only existed in radical feminist groups pre~2015. We are lucky that this is now the norm, because you'd be hard pressed to ever find someone claiming this has always been a mainstream idea, esp. in 2005 when this movie came out.
@BeautifulSilence
@BeautifulSilence 2 года назад
You do make sense because you're right! Feminism, like any social ideology/movement, evolves over time. What you first described is called second-wave feminism-focused on rejection of social expectations and norms of feminity as assigned by the patriarchy. More recent ideas have evolved, also as you described, which are aspects of third/fourth-wave feminism-more focused on how society as a whole defines constructions of feminism & you can still participate in it if it makes you happy but it's also okay if you don't bc sometimes it Sucks. Hope I made sense too! ✌💚🌳
@smithmarina970
@smithmarina970 2 года назад
There's always been women where feminism was about equality, its just like with most things, people who are extreme are louder. Maybe with the general public who have become more comfortable with it, yeah...
@katzuken5897
@katzuken5897 2 года назад
I'm a figure skater, and I've been doing it for almost a year now. I'd consider myself not a beginner, but this movie makes me so angry. A triple axel takes YEARS to master, oml, I know its just a disney movie but that detail made me angry. Triples are one of the most difficult axels besides the near impossible quad thats only been executed a few times in competition.
@DirtyPrancing
@DirtyPrancing 2 года назад
I think that's why they had her skating at the beginning, so she could do cool tricks and have that excuse that she actually, in a way, had been practicing for years
@sammjaisais7135
@sammjaisais7135 2 года назад
I actually still like this movie a lot. In case anyone is interested, this is the way I always interpreted it. So when Casey's mum talks with her she says that if she had her chance, she would have been able to give her more. From the era and the way the mum composes herself, it makes me think that she either couldn't go to college, or she didn't get as far as she wanted, which leads me to believe Casey was the result of an unwanted pregnancy. Maybe Joan was a girly girl and her boyfriend abandoned her when she got pregnant, and she decided to put less effort on her appearance, even though she liked doing so, and concentrate on getting a job with either inly her high school diploma or while going to college and taking care of baby Casey. And since she didn'thave time to look pretty, she started to feel resentful towards women who put a lot of effort into their appearance. Thus the mystery of the missing dad and why the mum hates frilly dresses and bright colours is solved. And about her reactions to knowing that Casey is ice skating, I don't find it hard to buy. As a child of a strict parent myself, when your parent values academics above all else, when you hide your liking for something else and they find out, they do make that face. My dad didn't because he is the closest a neurotypical person can get to having flat affect, but my mother has made that face (followed by a huge tantrum) for less.
@jenblueangel05
@jenblueangel05 2 года назад
That's also what I got from this movie. You explained it well. I also still liked the movie. I liked that she stuck to what made her happy and not what she was expected to do.
@catyfaurie9446
@catyfaurie9446 2 года назад
My parents were also only focussed on the academic part of school. I am very creative from making my own clothing to designing custom built in furniture, even then. But I was expected to take mathematics and science. My dad also wanted me to go further in accounting because I was good at it, but I was only good because I got...creative with it. Nobody wants their accountant to be creative with their bookkeeping right? I was never allowed to even think about taking an art class, and when I took technical drawing instead of accounting my dad refused to the point where I forged his signature on the form. And I loved technical drawings, even ended up taking mechanical drawings at university for fun, while studying to become an electric engineer. Even sports weren't allowed until they sent me to boarding school and I tried out every sport I could because they weren't there to stop me from going.
@ondatheworld
@ondatheworld 2 года назад
It doesn’t surprise me that she was okay with Casey doing it as a hobbies but the minute it was actually a possibility for her to want to per sue she wants her to give it up. Academic driven parents love to push their kids into extracurriculars to pad out the college app but would never let their kids actually do them as careers.
@Anna-en8mq
@Anna-en8mq 2 года назад
I always thought she never went to college and was upset that she couldn’t give kacy more because she was a single parent now for SOME reason?
@tiffany1705
@tiffany1705 2 года назад
This is so specific, but also exactly the backstory I always imagined for her.
@darcysheltman3129
@darcysheltman3129 2 года назад
tbh as someone from Texas i always just assumed everyone who lived in a place where ponds froze over could ice skate so I never questioned it as a child. I knew if I had a frozen pond I would have at least tried to skate on it!
@conansglasses2645
@conansglasses2645 2 года назад
The way you would have died ...
@fuzzycatbutts
@fuzzycatbutts 2 года назад
Frozen ponds are usually pretty challenging to skate on--the ice isn't smooth like at the rink. I tried like twice to skate the lake in our backyard and gave up.
@Katharine888
@Katharine888 2 года назад
They don't because the ice fisherman are in the way.
@paperigangsta
@paperigangsta 2 года назад
as someone from a country where like 90% of people can skate (they teach it in p.e., if you haven't learnt it already at kindergarten) natural ice is pretty annoying to skate at, like someone else said before me it's bumpy + there's usually snow on top, there's a risk of it being too thin and you dropping to the ice cold water and there can be cracks in the ice from it's movement. the cities (and on the countryside private people too of course) do make maintained ice roads (for cardio type "travel skating") and ice rinks on natural ice though! they can be pretty fun!
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 2 года назад
@@paperigangsta I never knew that was a thing, a culture with 90% ice skaters and _roads_ iced over for ice skating
@tymber579
@tymber579 2 года назад
This was one of my fave movies as a kid. I just rewatched it about a month ago and finally noticed all of the awful side comments about the girls' weight and eating habits. I definitely think this movie stuck with me in ways I never knew till now.
@danielapardo9776
@danielapardo9776 2 года назад
GIRL SAME. It was my favorite movie as a kid and I never saw anything wrong until now that I'm 21 years old. It's not that I forgot the existence of the movie. I actually developed an eating disorder in my teen years. Probably it was not just this movie's fault but now I see that it might taken part of what happened 😶.
@solarmoth4628
@solarmoth4628 2 года назад
The sad thing is that seems pretty realistic for ice skating. So many young ice skaters develop EDs from the constant weigh ins and stress to stay small in order to compete and delay puberty. It’s sad how it leads to injuries and stress fractures from malnourishment and inappropriate technique.
@JaneDoe-cv5th
@JaneDoe-cv5th 2 года назад
@@solarmoth4628 it is sadly super common in most sports that a lot of the athletes have eating disorders. In my country there have now been many athletes that have come forward and talked about the issues they have with eating, some retired and some active. And these athletes are from different sports, there have even been men that have been brave enough to share their own stories. So just as you said very realistic. 😔
@ambriaashley3383
@ambriaashley3383 2 года назад
@@JaneDoe-cv5th I'm sorry to hear that. Child athletes and student athletes are often put through horrendous kind of abuse or pressure from coaches that can lead to disorders and long lasting issues like that. I believe youth athletes need more protection and empowerment ❤ they are incredible
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 2 года назад
Yeah the 2000’s really loved normalizing ED’s 😬
@TheSupremeRk9s
@TheSupremeRk9s 2 года назад
growing up my brother & I used to quote this movie constantly for how absurd it was. This vid might be my favorite you’ve done
@kayla206
@kayla206 2 года назад
What were your favorite quotes?
@lydialuton4402
@lydialuton4402 2 года назад
Even as a kid, that scene at the party where they imply the only way to know that whoever uses the zipline will smash through the window was to be some physics genius seemed stupid af
@bloodyneptune
@bloodyneptune 2 года назад
Yeah I think everyone would have been like "dudes going toward that window pretty fast"
@Oozes_Dark
@Oozes_Dark 2 года назад
She’s actually decreasing her moment of inertia when she pulls her arms 😭
@mindyobusiness6257
@mindyobusiness6257 2 года назад
I discovered her first for her ICONIC prestation as Penny, the Inspector Gadget’s daughter
@NickDiRamioTV
@NickDiRamioTV 2 года назад
Omg so cool, when she got the skittles out of the car vending machine?!
@IndianaJonas96
@IndianaJonas96 2 года назад
OMG YAAAAAAAAA
@catandrobbyflores
@catandrobbyflores 2 года назад
That was her?!
@mindyobusiness6257
@mindyobusiness6257 2 года назад
@@catandrobbyflores Yep
@catandrobbyflores
@catandrobbyflores 2 года назад
@@mindyobusiness6257 🤯
@erinbailey7940
@erinbailey7940 2 года назад
Wait… Casey pulls her arms in and lands a TRIPLE JUMP?!? That’s fully senior-level, girls train for like a decade to do that
@erinbailey7940
@erinbailey7940 2 года назад
a triple AXEL!!!!?????
@pierrotcrow
@pierrotcrow 4 месяца назад
that's literally my biggest beef with this movie lmao. like only olympic level female skaters do triple axles, and even then only the most elite regularly compete with them, and they really expected us to buy that a girl with less than a year of actual coaching is landing any triples at all, let alone a triple axle?????? insane.
@19Rena96
@19Rena96 3 месяца назад
@@pierrotcrow it's a movie, ofc it's not gonna be super realistic..
@CamiEveritt
@CamiEveritt 2 года назад
After watching this movie as an 8-year-old, I bugged my parents nonstop about taking ice-skating lessons and literally only took them for one year before getting bored. Every time I watch it as an adult, I always wonder how that was my takeaway rather than subconsciously learning the catty way that literally every single female character acts toward one another.
@Aelffwynn
@Aelffwynn 2 года назад
A year is a long time for an 8-9 year old! It's great that you were able to do that.
@danielapardo9776
@danielapardo9776 2 года назад
The subconscious part I relate. Casey was so unsafe in her overall enviroment. Any of the women could snap at her with their issues.
@funlover163
@funlover163 2 года назад
I always remembered how the edgy goth skater seemed mean, but actually pointed out the problem with the ice skates. I guess I took it as a "don't judge by appearances". And something about parents micromanaging their children.
@danielapardo9776
@danielapardo9776 2 года назад
@@funlover163 I always thought that the fact that she pointed out the blisters was wrong. I don't know how to explain it, but it seem wrong to talk about Tina and her obvious cheating. Like it was better to shut uo and ignore it (?). This movie really was something else.
@funlover163
@funlover163 2 года назад
@@danielapardo9776 I didn't get that impression at all. It was more like "everybody knows you don't compete in completely new not broken in skates" so even pointing it out (because it's like saying you don't flick water into a pan of hot oil) might make her come off as brazen but it also illustrates Michelle Trachtenberg's complete ignorance about ice skating. It's almost an insult because it's like calling Michelle stupid, but if I saw someone with blisters like that I'd probably say something. And then Michelle supplies where she got the skates from, and then it's treated like "of course she sabotaged you, she's a cheater who cheats, haven't you been paying attention?" So the real lesson is always trust rumors.
@janedoe-ld5gt
@janedoe-ld5gt 2 года назад
I had no idea that Kim Katrall was supposed to be a Tonya Harding type of character, so I always wondered why she was so mean and now it makes sense in retrospect lol.
@realMacMadame
@realMacMadame 2 года назад
Except Tonya was actually a pretty good coach (she did that for a while)
@RichV20
@RichV20 Год назад
Tonya Harding's mom maybe.
@lynettebr
@lynettebr 11 месяцев назад
I didn't know either!
@tiffany1705
@tiffany1705 2 года назад
The craziest part of the movie to me was that Disney shelled out dough to get the instrumental version of Toxic instead of playing generic rock music for Zoey's performance. Also whatever shimmery product you have on your cheeks is perfectly placed. It makes your cheekbones pop in like a really satisfying way.
@akuma4321
@akuma4321 2 года назад
nick is always so cheerful and friendly, all of these clip breakdown videos feel like i'm with a friend talking about a movie they just watched
@marwaregab7040
@marwaregab7040 2 года назад
None of my friends are this smart or witty
@shizzlemywizzle1
@shizzlemywizzle1 2 года назад
@@marwaregab7040 yikes, maybe you need new friends lol
@petermj
@petermj 2 года назад
“you’re giving up your dream” “no mom i’m giving up your dream” that was definitely in the trailer or something bc i have never in my life watched this movie but that scene is ingrained in my mind
@emndiaye9019
@emndiaye9019 2 года назад
The ONLY thing I remembered from this movie is that I learned what a Zamboni is from watching it
@Maria_745
@Maria_745 2 года назад
I love how it logically has to be below freezing temps through the entire movie for her to skate on that pond but she's perfectly comfortable in a hoodie and low rise track pants
@fuzzycatbutts
@fuzzycatbutts 2 года назад
My friends and I would skate wearing stuff like that. Physical activity warms you up...
@lakenbiletski6823
@lakenbiletski6823 2 года назад
The first time i ever saw this movie, my friends and i were using it as a palate cleanser after watching Hereditary. This lead to many plotlines intertwining in our heads, ie. “i just remember being horrified when the girls head got chopped off by the zamboni😰”
@RedSpade37
@RedSpade37 2 года назад
You know, that gives me an idea: Double-Feature Movie Night, but the movies are both very-very different. I can't imagine a weirder pairing than Hereditary and this movie, haha.
@lakenbiletski6823
@lakenbiletski6823 2 года назад
@@RedSpade37 I honestly recommend it!
@mirandaweber9383
@mirandaweber9383 2 года назад
I loved this movie so much as a child to a point that I convinced myself I would use math to be a famous skater one day and would inline skate around my house pretending I already was. Then I started figure skating at 14 and realized it was too late for me and you have to start skating as a kid to have a career at it and BOOM in the garbage this film went
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 2 года назад
Ughh, the same thing happened with me and Interview With the Vampire. I'm beyond my prime, no use in becoming immortal now. :-P
@mirandaweber9383
@mirandaweber9383 2 года назад
@@RealBradMiller lmao I'm glad we can share in this pain -_-
@Darbster
@Darbster 2 года назад
@@RealBradMiller I used to be in my prime to become immortal, but no vampire ever came :'( Now I'm too old lol
@RealBradMiller
@RealBradMiller 2 года назад
@@Darbster I know the feeling. After the vampire thing I thought I'd become a RU-vidr, so I signed up years ago and they haven't shown up ONCE to film a video for me. 😂
@strawberryh3ntai995
@strawberryh3ntai995 2 года назад
Please do Go Figure at some point! I loved this growing up because it showed me I can "feminine" and "masculine" and do whatever I enjoyed doing. I'd love to see what you think and if it holds up
@spectre9340
@spectre9340 2 года назад
Omg yes! That was the first movie that really sold me on the concept of feminism. Like, you could do something really masculine/feminine and still respect people who do the other.
@Emymagdalena
@Emymagdalena 2 года назад
Yes! I was just thinking of that movie and couldn’t remember the name.
@Lee-zb7xq
@Lee-zb7xq 2 года назад
I've never clicked on a breakdown so fast, this movie had an absolute DEATH GRIP on me. I watched this movie absolutely anytime I got in the car.
@Itsindy_
@Itsindy_ 2 года назад
How did you miss the “fix your spread eagle” joke😂😂😂
@alexanderdavidd
@alexanderdavidd 2 года назад
The perfect quote to sum up every Banana Republic catalogue shoot; “people angrily agreeing to do things in sweaters” 🤣
@amityislandchum
@amityislandchum 2 года назад
Nick, I'd LOVE for you to cover "Stick It." It's the far better version of this movie, centered around gymnastics. Much funnier, much better actors, and the motivations of the characters are all spelled out clearly.
@PhonesOfOurLives
@PhonesOfOurLives 2 года назад
I love it when you give alternative suggestions for what might have improved the movie or given the story more power! So many smart observations and ideas.
@nataliaintheclouds
@nataliaintheclouds 2 года назад
Nick:* is making a joke about Casey using big words * Nick: polysyllabic
@Maarttii
@Maarttii 2 года назад
Not to harsh on dawn's vibe or anything but Harvard's had a figure skating club since 1998 so she probably would have been fine doing both. Of course, only doing skating recreationally until she had any experience under her belt WOULD have run the risk of trying to enter competition AFTER her age stopped ending in "teen", making her some sort of withered ice-crone.
@Cerise4697
@Cerise4697 2 года назад
I thought for YEARS that this starred Anne Hathaway. Like I thought explicitly that this was some kind of pre-Princess Diaries gig for her before she landed that big role. I only laid eyes on this again for the first time in 20 years while watching this very video and had a Mandela Effect moment realizing it never had Anne in it at all. Holy shit.
@k.k.7797
@k.k.7797 2 года назад
Rewatching this, the mom’s waning feminism feels very similar to older generations idea of “feminism” that rejects feminine culture in favor of masculine qualities as a way to fit in to male dominated work places, instead of supporting women’s ability to choose for themselves. I don’t think that’s what Disney intended, but that’s what it seems like watching back!
@ThePhantomBeaver
@ThePhantomBeaver 2 года назад
Id like to imagine that the dad died due to a skating outfit accident and thats why the mom is so against them
@bbear2695
@bbear2695 2 года назад
this is literally a recruitment video for disney on ice. we need a new crop of failed olympic hopefuls cuz the princesses are starting to look more like queens
@mr.e5289
@mr.e5289 2 года назад
LMFAO
@isoltsayre4908
@isoltsayre4908 2 года назад
this movie is so inaccurate lmao. I can list like 500 things. Especially Tina getting suspended for a collision, those happen quite frequently and are dangerous for everyone involved. No one gets suspended for those. It would have been a lot more plausible if she sabotaged equipment, doped, etc. But the biggest fault with this movie is that Casey couldn't get doubles or triples in like a month. That takes years, and most top-level skaters have been training since age 5 to get to that level. And that doesn't include skating skills, spins, flexibility, stamina, etc. And she also can't just pass both novice levels in a show (and it was a show, competitions are always solo for her discipline and are never skated under spotlights). To move up to junior like she does you would have to pass a bunch of tests. And the fact that Casey didn't know about boots needing to be broken in for several weeks despite practically living at a rink for a long time? Plus she was using ancient boots that are clearly just recreational? Typically skating boots have to be form fitted to your feet and are suuuuuper expensive, and once they start to break it is very dangerous to use them. Also there is no money in skating at the level Casey is at so the fact that she turned down Harvard is ridiculous (and almost every member of the US 2022 skating team goes to an Ivy League college so you can do both). Also, Nick you were right, Jenn can't do basic crossovers and does look really bad and Casey wouldn't be nearly as good because she's been skating for such a short period of time. #justiceforniki, she is clear and away the best skater of the bunch along with Zoey. And sadly like you mentioned women's skating is becoming much younger (although that is solely because of one coach but that is a whole other discussion)
@hannalowercase5928
@hannalowercase5928 2 года назад
i just read like two lines of your comment and obviously it wasn't an accidental collision, she hurt another competitor on purpose
@melodybunnies97
@melodybunnies97 2 года назад
Where are the other figure skaters who grew up with their skating friends absolutely BASHING and hate watching this movie as a past time at sleepovers? I know you’re out there. Jesus. I loved and hated this movie to the core. It is HILARIOUS how incorrectly it portrays figure skating culture. Edit: I’m high and needed to take it down a notch
@realMacMadame
@realMacMadame 2 года назад
I was in my 40s when this movie came out. But I was skating at the time so I laughed and laughed at all the inaccuracies.
@melodybunnies97
@melodybunnies97 2 года назад
Yes!! I cringed thinking that this movie was the impression my peers got of competitive figure skaters. The fact that she could train so quickly and be learning triple axels. It’s honestly a slap in the face to how hard we have to work just to land a SINGLE axel which is a milestone at least in US figure skating culture, and even the figure skaters in the movie treated it like this wasn’t somehow…impossible? Its normal for rinks to have axel parties for skaters that land their first single, because it takes even an advanced, naturally talented skater generally 6 months to 3 years for the less graceful or intensive skaters even to land ONE correctly. I don’t care how well you know the laws of physics. Like holy shit, do I want to laugh or cry. Muscle memory and physical building takes YEARS even for child prodigies. And girl, you dare even consider skating to a song with WORDS? My coach woulda whooped my ass. Lmao. Instant disqualification babe
@sanonymous9812
@sanonymous9812 2 года назад
Fellow oldie here, I watched this on cable when I was 30 and recovering from wisdom teeth surgery. It was cute and fun. but so many creative liberties were take . My late, best friend was a figure skater on a less competitive level, and oh, yes, the inaccuracies are so painful in the movie. There’s so much more to skating than understanding physics, you have to train your body to be able to pull the tricks off. It takes years of practice to get those jumps down. You have to build up from the bottom. My friend had to do figure 8’s, by essentially drawing her own pattern with a tool and following the lines while doing switchovers and other moves. All that monotonous training is what helps a skater build up to their skills. Don’t even get me started on the skaters testing during a pageant, doesn’t happen like that. And Zoe would never have that casual, exhibition-style program in a competition.
@juliaholladay8821
@juliaholladay8821 2 года назад
YES! This movie is so inaccurate! You put my feelings into words!
@lexismith8325
@lexismith8325 2 года назад
Yes!!! This movie came out when I first started skating… her I am years and years later still hating it!!!
@kaleighdecasere9286
@kaleighdecasere9286 2 года назад
Nick mentions it a couple times so I'm gonna clear up that, yes, she CAN skate fairly well in the beginning. But once she joins the novice class she isn't just gliding around anymore, she's spinning and doing simple single jumps. That is a BIG skill level jump. So it makes sense that she would be having a little trouble adjusting at first. Plus she's used to skating on a lake, the ice has a different hardness/softball that effects how well a person will perform.
@KatesAdventures
@KatesAdventures 2 года назад
My personal Mandela effect is a scene where Joan Cusack's character slaps her for wanting to be an ice skater. I have no idea why my mind was so convinced that was in a Disney Channel movie.
@luthebong
@luthebong 2 года назад
Omg I LOVED this movie so so much. Especially because I had a crush on Hayden Panettiere and watched everything where she was in. She’s a queen I still love her 💕
@NickDiRamioTV
@NickDiRamioTV 2 года назад
She’s amazing. Heroes?? So good
@luthebong
@luthebong 2 года назад
@@NickDiRamioTV yes!! I just rewatched the show and she’s the best. Save the cheerleader!
@flyingdeliveryservice
@flyingdeliveryservice 2 года назад
Seeing Hayden Panettiere and Haley Joel Osment back-to-back in a video really made me go "is this Kingdom Hearts???" but also I just love the Aly & AJ song at the beginning of this movie
@gregmark1688
@gregmark1688 2 года назад
It's always so weird to me when people thing physics and science are holding them to the ground or helping them ice skate. Science doesn't make stuff happen -- science just offers an explanation for HOW stuff happens. Science isn't the stuff, science is the explanations.
@toyamwarr
@toyamwarr 2 года назад
I remember seeing the trailer for this movie and laughing at the lead character discovering that physics plays a big role in sports. At the time, I was an engineering major on an intramural basketball team. I didn’t realize she was suppose to be a high school student. I thought the plot was about this college girl who decides to pursue a sport they’re not familiar with to discover a new set of friends. There were several celebrities training to participate in marathons and other sporting events so I thought this movie was the same thing.
@dandelionlys
@dandelionlys 2 года назад
As a kid that one line “no mom I’m giving up YOUR dream” became permanently etched into my mind bc they had it in the trailer they played on Disney channel. As a five year old that was really profound lol
@TheAndrassa
@TheAndrassa 2 года назад
The reason she didn’t know Teddie was Hayden’s character’s brother is because he goes to a different school. It is kinda said quickly once in the movie though so it is an easy line to miss.
@RoCkbunny769
@RoCkbunny769 2 года назад
To be fair on the point of her not knowing they were siblings, literally no one knew that my ex and his brother were related. His brother is 6ft tall and was super popular, and my ex is 5’5” and a loser. I can totally see it happening.
@ben_jamin4529
@ben_jamin4529 2 года назад
Um he's a short king
@RoCkbunny769
@RoCkbunny769 2 года назад
@@ben_jamin4529 he’s an abusive little goblin lol
@tabathaalshalhoub1653
@tabathaalshalhoub1653 2 года назад
My brother looked like the man version of me and I looked like the girl version of him and people didn’t know we were related because we had such different personalities
@khuranapriyanka
@khuranapriyanka 2 года назад
@@RoCkbunny769 this is so fkn funny 😭 sorry for the trauma
@welpppppppppppppp
@welpppppppppppppp 2 года назад
the way casey talks about physics literally is just a regurgitation of your average bill nye the science guy episode. like… she wanted to get into HARVARD?????
@shareetz3154
@shareetz3154 2 года назад
michelle trachtenberg will always be harriet the spy to me. i used to watch that neon orange VHS tape over & over again 😂😂 inspired me to become a writer & validated my love for baggy clothes lmao.
@clairemacdonald5329
@clairemacdonald5329 2 года назад
As far as 2000s Disney Channel Movie suggestions go, I have one that's fairly similar to Ice Princess and came out in the same year, it's called Go Figure. (An actor that I really like, Jake Abel, is a supporting character). I actually think it would be more fitting for each of the stories if Ice Princess and Go Figure had swapped titles. Always love watching your videos!
@MsAngel419
@MsAngel419 2 года назад
YES PLEASE. That movie was...weirdly cheesy to me. Idk why.
@tabathaalshalhoub1653
@tabathaalshalhoub1653 2 года назад
I saw the end of Go Figure on Disney back in the 2000s and I legit thought that this was that movie. I was so confused waiting for the end skating where she’s like “I can skate in my hockey skates!” And then she can’t. But it’s whatever, who cares?! And that wasn’t this movie lmao
@HowlBunny
@HowlBunny 2 года назад
I feel like the mom’s representation of feminism at the time was pretty accurate. Feminism then was against little girls wearing pink, makeup, and skirts. They didn’t want girls to be like princesses even if the girls saw some thing good in them. The “I’m not like other girls” was rampant!
@andrea2kx
@andrea2kx 2 года назад
My girlfriend at the time was all into that NLOG bs. I remember that perfectly. She would take down any womens sport that wore "skimpy outfits" while she played volleyball.
@lindsaym.h.3583
@lindsaym.h.3583 2 года назад
A much more straightforward version of the movie exists underneath all of the choices that they made. I genuinely thought when Gen was like "Hey, you could knock me out of the competition!" That that was going to turn out to be the real goal. Gen hates all the pressure and skating and wants to get knocked out and when she does Tina has to coach Casey because that's going to be her redemption. Simple. Clean. But no.
@demitwice
@demitwice 2 года назад
this movie is probably one of the movies me and my sister quote the most, simply iconic
@NickDiRamioTV
@NickDiRamioTV 2 года назад
Hahah I can totally see why!
@cmegan06
@cmegan06 2 года назад
The weirdest thing about the Tonya reference is that she was pretty poor, right? Framing her as this snotty wine mom is so weird, especially since her most recent venture was being a commentator on worlds dumbest after working several manual labor jobs. She is completely the opposite of this character.
@greenonionbabey
@greenonionbabey 2 года назад
This movie's biggest crime is the fact that when I first heard Björk's cover of It's Oh So Quiet my immediate thought was "omg the song from Ice Princess"
@darcylilith246
@darcylilith246 2 года назад
Ice princess was one of my favourites! I loved the costumes and the overall aesthetic of this movie!
@heyitsmira17
@heyitsmira17 2 года назад
Also, Kacey's mom is the most realistic part of the movie... just because a woman says she's a feminist, doesn't mean she follows a specific approach. I mean, we have TERFs going around today! So I can't say it surprised me to see a woman claiming to be a feminist while looking down on other women's choices in life. Experienced a lot of that as a kid with my mom tbh
@Listening_Books12345
@Listening_Books12345 Год назад
Michelle Kwan was my absolute goddess for a moment in grade school. I don't remember how or why it started, I must have caught one of her gold-medal winning Olympic performances on TV and gotten so hyped when the skater I liked best also got the top prize. Who knows, but her and Kristi Yamaguchi were my jams as a kid.
@KestrelDC
@KestrelDC 2 года назад
"If you ever wore anything like that, I'd vomit." Boy, this mom would have a heart attack if she ever watched just about any woman sport... but especially any sort of gymnastics. Because these are some of the tamest figure skating outfits I've ever seen....
@app1escruff
@app1escruff 2 года назад
Lmao, in case you’ve lost count, Nick, you’ve reviewed FIVE out of the 14 movies that feature Superchic[k] on their soundtracks. I know that’s a weird thing to have stats for, but I just happen to have a Letterboxd list on that exact subject (not on the subject of your reviews, just on Superchic[k] soundtracks haha). They were like the coolest band I was allowed to listen to as a repressed Christian pre-teen and they were also like the only band whose songs I ever recognized in movies. So it’s like peak nostalgia for me (but I forgive the slander lol).
@app1escruff
@app1escruff 2 года назад
Also, it’s no surprise that 3 of the movies with Superchic[k] on their soundtracks ARE figure skating movies.
@liaisanxious425
@liaisanxious425 2 года назад
Hi. She's struggling in the middle of the movie to learn how to do jumps in a rink. In the beginning she was skating around on a "bumpy lake" doing basic stuff. So she's not starting from level 0, more like level 2. She can glide on the ice, lift a leg, and that's about it. Then in the novice class she's trying to get both feet off the ground. That's way different and more difficult. Other than that love your breakdowns as always.
@samestory4902
@samestory4902 2 года назад
I’m a former ballet dancer turned figure skater and I loved every bit of this! You need to go after my fave ballet movie next- Center Stage!! 🙏
@donavonseibert507
@donavonseibert507 2 года назад
She's also in "Euro Trip", "The Adventures of Pete and Pete"(pre-"Harriet the Spy"), and "Inspector Gadget"
@hollyk7052
@hollyk7052 2 года назад
CONSIDERING THE VALIEVA AND TRUVOSA TRAGEDY AT THE OLYMPICS THIS YEAR AND THAT RUSSIAN ABUSE OF CHILDREN IN FS IS NOW A RELEVANT TOPIC, MAKES ME SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS! 💔
@queenb7013
@queenb7013 2 года назад
That’s funny that you talk about wanting the movie to show Casey ice skating as a child cause there’s an alternate opening to this movie where they show Casey ice skating as a 13 year old and they should’ve kept that in the movie imo
@sammjaisais7135
@sammjaisais7135 2 года назад
The only thing I dislike about this movie is the idea that you can only do one thing. You can do multiple things as long as you want to. Maybe not get too far on either, but if you enjoy it there's no harm in doing it.
@PhoenixAngelRVS
@PhoenixAngelRVS 2 года назад
Meg Cabot (author of PRINCESS diaries) is credited as writing this, but almost claims to have not written it any of the final draft. I think hockey would have added something to this.
@hannadentabites3978
@hannadentabites3978 2 года назад
I remember reading that same article or blog entry by meg cabot. to be fair the movie 'Go Figure' is pretty similar, figure skater turns hockey player so that she can continue figure skating, id recommend it if you liked ice princess :))
@settheworldonfire94
@settheworldonfire94 2 года назад
As someone was inspired to skate by this movie, I could do the gliding on one foot thing, but I was way too scared to ever get any kind of jump or spin. I never had any formal training, I just had a pair of skates a relative bought me off eBay, and I would go to the local rink during open ice time. If she skates on a pond regularly during the winter, I could see how she’d figure out the skating on one foot thing but be starting from zero on the jumps, especially if there’s a level of fear there like there was for me.
@Greystorm1619
@Greystorm1619 2 года назад
Yeah I loved this movie as a kid, I even got that opening Aly & AJ song on my iPod back in the day. I rewatched it a few weeks ago cus I was feeling nostalgic and I actually still like it quite a bit. I can definitely see where the script falls short in some places, but a lot of the things Nick complains about are actually things I love about this movie. For example, he was talking about how it seems confusing that Joan Cusack’s character is a feminist but hates the “skimpy outfits” ice skaters wear, but it makes sense to me. I was taught as a kid that female empowerment was about not giving into the male gaze, which can mean dressing conservatively and acting generally more “masculine”. It’s a kind of internalized misogyny that pervaded the 90s/ 2000s, so I think it’s actually an accurate depiction of a feminist but “unfeminine” mother. Also, Nick hated that all the women in the film were antagonistic towards Casey at one point, but I think it’s great because it shows how different types of women can have these complex relationships and competing interests, but they eventually come together once they find common ground. This film does a great job of showing how different peoples women’s ideas of femininity can clash at times. It feels very in line with my experience as a woman, which I appreciate.
@elananova
@elananova 2 года назад
This was my comfort movie when Covid started and now Nick is covering it. Kinda full circle now...
@ladycaticorn2950
@ladycaticorn2950 2 года назад
Being a creative writer and watching these videos makes me think a lot about how I can make my own stories better. Thank you, Nick, for making your content witty, educational, and funny af!
@jordanmarie24
@jordanmarie24 2 года назад
I just squealed so loudly! I used to love this movie and haven't seen it in so long. Tear it apart sis!
@M0rissey
@M0rissey 2 года назад
"17 years ago" NICK STOP HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE
@Silvermoon424
@Silvermoon424 2 года назад
I literally forgot this movie existed until this video popped up in my feed, omg. Which is hilarious because I probably watched it on Disney Channel like 10 times when I was a kid.
@NickDiRamioTV
@NickDiRamioTV 2 года назад
Lol it’s a feel good classic!
@owl7072
@owl7072 2 года назад
Nick's comments are _so_ funny but also unexpected to a point that I have to be careful when eating or drinking while watching/listening cause I almost choked on my water at the part where they joked about them finding the gun that links her to her dad's murder
@a-go-go19
@a-go-go19 2 года назад
Another DCOM that feels like a complete fever dream to me is My Date with the President's Daughter. I remember very little except that ear worm of a song
@karly.asshhh
@karly.asshhh 2 года назад
I always thought the mothers were kinda sapphic for each other lol
@solarmoth4628
@solarmoth4628 2 года назад
I remember the Punk Skater so vividly. Like I thought she was the coolest person ever. My type in women was solidified from an early age lol.
@ericmartinez4340
@ericmartinez4340 2 года назад
I'm here just to share that in the castillian spanish dub, this film is called "Soñando soñando, triunfé patinando" wich literally means "Dreaming dreaming, i succeeded ice skating" And i think that's beautiful.
@ninalove3044
@ninalove3044 2 года назад
@ 18:29 I want to take this moment to say CONGRATS to Nick, and all of us in the Diramio Club for being part of the birth of Boy P*ssy- A ROUND OF APPLAUSE IS MOST DESERVED!👏👏👏💗💪🤘😋 (Nick, thank u for being u and bringing so much happiness to my life!)
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