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If MVPs Were Given to the BEST Player... (1990s) 

Jonny Arnett
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The NBA gives its MVP awards to players who meet certain criterias... but what if the MVP was just given to the best player? We're looking at who would win it in those cases from the 1990s.
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Комментарии : 1,6 тыс.   
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Which 90s legend deserved more MVPs than he actually got? 2010s video coming soon...
@kizvy
@kizvy 3 года назад
Jordan.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
Jordan no doubt
@_1luljayyy
@_1luljayyy 3 года назад
Jordan should have 10
@alapandas3457
@alapandas3457 3 года назад
Jonny bro can you please summarise at the end the number of MVPs the stars like MJ, Kobe etc would have at the end of the video series, as per your new and much improved analysis and guidelines? Thanks!
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Thats a great idea! I forgot I told someone I would put a summary at the end of this video too. I'm way too forgetful... I'll try to make sure I start including more summaries/recaps 👍
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank 3 года назад
This Jordan guy seems pretty good.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
Harrison Kleinpeter not bad i guess
@jaredbowen3527
@jaredbowen3527 3 года назад
@Shadow2Dubz your such an idiot This dude "jordan" doesnt even exist
@Jayman340
@Jayman340 3 года назад
Shadow2Dubz Bruh Jordan is worse then that garbage Kobe dude like OMFG both of them are dog
@felipebrunetta2106
@felipebrunetta2106 3 года назад
He was a decent shooter, but not a great athlete and just a decent defender
@Jayman340
@Jayman340 3 года назад
Eu Sou Nah the Jordan dude literally was the worst player ever
@PhillipCummingsUSA
@PhillipCummingsUSA 3 года назад
MJ "I'm gonna go play baseball so that everyone else can have a chance"
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
facts haha
@-sorta
@-sorta 3 года назад
he got bored it was too ez
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
500 Subscribers with 1 video frrr
@helloiamgood942
@helloiamgood942 3 года назад
Nah he just got banned coa he smoked too much. Lest be honest, how would get bored of dominating legends?
@omni_king2317
@omni_king2317 3 года назад
Facts
@anf9311
@anf9311 3 года назад
Jonny: Karl Malone keeps his award. MJ: I took it personal.
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
anf9311 MJ about to drop 50 on my head. Lol
@pittaaaabread
@pittaaaabread 3 года назад
@@jonnyarnett Anyone: Literally anyone ever: *doesn't send michael jordan a christmas card* MJ: I had to give him 50 you know?
@michaelgray1803
@michaelgray1803 3 года назад
Never
@Superputazo23
@Superputazo23 3 года назад
@Rodzilla MJ knows He's better than Gary. Gary wore Jordans... Enough said
@mve5758
@mve5758 3 года назад
@@Superputazo23 Payton was right though when he claimed he seriously slowed down MJ. He still averaged over 23 points, but on just 35.7% from the field.
@nicomagayanes991
@nicomagayanes991 3 года назад
MJ: “So you think Malone is the 1997 Season MVP? Ok fine. Imma show you he’s not.”
@disco4255
@disco4255 2 года назад
The thing is mj is still the actual mvp if you look at advanced stats beyond just per. He led that season in win shares, win shares per/48, bpm and vorp
@MortanAMrk
@MortanAMrk Год назад
Karl Malone sweep
@myerscumsillefamily252
@myerscumsillefamily252 Год назад
@@MortanAMrk yes by getting some nice dimes by top 5 passer oat stockton
@Hazz1405
@Hazz1405 11 месяцев назад
​@@disco4255I disagree with BOTH of Malone MVPs aswell. I honestly think both 97 and 98 should go to Jordan. Especially 98. Why? Because MJ was doing this with NO ALL STAR on his team for 97 or 98. Pippen wasnt reliable in the regular season during the end of his bulls career. In 98 he missed half of the season. The double teams and triple teams MJ was facing was a joke. The man was getting DOUBLED OFF THE BALL. so just looking at stats with almost no context is horrible. If you asked people around the world at the time who was better MJ or Malone it quite frankly isn't Close. Malone had a Superstar as his 2nd best player and one of the best passers ever feeding him the ball
@casbra8191
@casbra8191 3 года назад
idea for a video: "what if the mvp was given after the post-season"
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 3 года назад
Then Giannis will likely never win one
@egg8133
@egg8133 3 года назад
IchLiebeKuchen rf4e that’s basically the fmvp
@Nick-sr4fe
@Nick-sr4fe 3 года назад
Giannis wouldn’t have one Steve Nash wouldn’t have 2. Kawhi would have an MVP. Russ wouldn’t have one. Honestly I wish the MVP was in the post season a bit.
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 3 года назад
Fool’s Gaming You do know there’s more to the post season than just the Finals, don’t you?
@slaimanalharbi5972
@slaimanalharbi5972 3 года назад
Bron and mj would win pretty much every season
@ChiseledAdonis
@ChiseledAdonis Год назад
Damn ... Combine this video with the 80s & Jordan gets 7 STRAIGHT MVPS + 96 when he returns... That's crazy He was on a different level
@Hazz1405
@Hazz1405 11 месяцев назад
Yh his prime is the best ever and it's not close. Anyways I disagree with BOTH of Malone MVPs. I honestly think it should go to Jordan. Especially 98. Why? Because MJ was doing this with NO ALL STAR on his team for 97 or 98. Pippen wasnt reliable in the regular season during the end of his bulls career. In 98 he missed half of the season. The double teams and triple teams MJ was facing was a joke. The man was getting DOUBLED OFF THE BALL. so just looking at stats with almost no context is horrible. If you asked people around the world at the time who was better MJ or Malone it quite frankly isn't Close. Malone had a Superstar as his 2nd best player feeding him the ball
@MindfulAttraction2.0
@MindfulAttraction2.0 3 года назад
3:27 those had to be the fattest ankles I've ever seen in my life
@dthehacker9513
@dthehacker9513 3 года назад
Lol
@ayazceyhan1968
@ayazceyhan1968 3 года назад
Chuck built different 😭😂💀
@MrSquaky
@MrSquaky 3 года назад
Calves for days lmaooo
@slomofome14
@slomofome14 3 года назад
Fat slug
@slanderman3296
@slanderman3296 2 года назад
Hahaha
@hendrygiandynantheo2324
@hendrygiandynantheo2324 3 года назад
Breaking news: MJ plans to return one more time to prove a youtuber wrong.
@armandodelossantos736
@armandodelossantos736 3 года назад
Jordan has 1 playoff win his entire career without Pippen.
@JerrymeTubeHD
@JerrymeTubeHD 3 года назад
@@armandodelossantos736 Who the f*ck asked?
@n1ck67
@n1ck67 3 года назад
Armando De Los Santos Um ok? That’s prolly cuz pippen was on his team bud?
@serhattanlr6957
@serhattanlr6957 3 года назад
@@armandodelossantos736 that was the most retarded thing I ve ever heard..
@jachcoff
@jachcoff 3 года назад
mj never takes things personally tho
@teddyvanhalen814
@teddyvanhalen814 3 года назад
People forget how good The Admiral was. People see those ‘95 Dream Shake highlights and think Robinson was a joke. But he had a few MVP caliber seasons during this time.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
David Robinson was a one of a kind type of player, such a great guy too, I might make a video on how good The Admiral was soon
@ecnumber1fan
@ecnumber1fan 3 года назад
As a Rockets fan I would have to agree with you. The Admiral was also a pretty classy guy as well.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
ecnumber1fan such a beast
@aymankhali904
@aymankhali904 3 года назад
Damn all I saw was him getting dunked on or schooled
@jbailey690
@jbailey690 3 года назад
@@aymankhali904 Damn all I saw was him dunking on and schooling people. ( In the video and because I was actually watching during that Era )
@MasterCombatant
@MasterCombatant 3 года назад
I’m glad that you turned this into the a series plus you’re giving each player the credit they deserve
@hmu05366
@hmu05366 3 года назад
💯 Alex ferguson
@scrungy3540
@scrungy3540 3 года назад
Malone was good but he don't deserve anyone's respect, remember that
@MasterCombatant
@MasterCombatant 3 года назад
Scrungy Bingus accept him. I don’t give respect to any grown man who sleeps with 13 year old girls. If I was her dad, I would be pissed the fuck off. I know I said “giving them the credit they deserve,” but I didn’t mean it like that because he’s gonna go out as one of the most hated players of all time
@369pendulum
@369pendulum 3 года назад
@@scrungy3540 This is about basketball & nothing else
@tdl8472
@tdl8472 3 года назад
Scrungy Bingus idc what the allegations were. I respect him as a basketball player. Anyone using personal biases to decide their ranking on a player is a snowflake ❄️. He’s a ball player, a great one. I’ll put some respect on his name when referring to basketball
@BeachPleased
@BeachPleased 3 года назад
8:47 in 1997 Karl Malone won the MVP and Michael Jordan took it personally. Jonny knows if he didn't Briefly explain why, MJ will took this video Personally. LOLOLOL
@mattb1446
@mattb1446 3 года назад
Yeah thats what made him so great. Csuse he cane back with a vendetta
@doodlebob2923
@doodlebob2923 3 года назад
He’s still gonna take it personally but he’ll only drop 40
@iamgaijin88
@iamgaijin88 3 года назад
*ahhh the 1997 mvp... choked so hard in that series* _“the mailman doesn't deliver on sunday”_
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
such great trash talk lmao
@Life_Basketball
@Life_Basketball 3 года назад
Haha, people are starting to sleep on that moment
@armandodelossantos736
@armandodelossantos736 3 года назад
That was one of the worst refereed series in NBA history.
@stayofftheweeeeeeed7249
@stayofftheweeeeeeed7249 2 года назад
Still got 25 and 10
@death2denemy
@death2denemy 2 года назад
Always wondered how that series would have turned out if karl malone just had a consistent/reliable 2nd scorer.. He already had stockton, u couldnt ask for a better floor general than that.. Now, imagine if there was a reliable/all star caliber 2nd scoring threat.. I bet it would have been more interesting than it already was..
@gangstadu94
@gangstadu94 3 года назад
before his 1st retirement, MJ had all these crazy numbers, he dominated on both sides of the court, plus when playoff time came he gave you more., shooting mode than 50% of the court for a guard is just incredible. when he came back he was no longer the same player , he had lost a big part of his athleticism but he killed with the fade away
@AidenB1010
@AidenB1010 3 года назад
GRAMAR
@sowmsxa301
@sowmsxa301 3 года назад
Aiden Billiu spelling
@sukulbembe4657
@sukulbembe4657 3 года назад
@@sowmsxa301 thanks
@ssj4goku18825theepic
@ssj4goku18825theepic 3 года назад
How so? Being able to win mvp and finals mvp and a big season in 96 if anything showed he was still the same
@ssj4goku18825theepic
@ssj4goku18825theepic 3 года назад
@A yeah I can see that he was super explosive in his prime peak it def took its toll no wonder he was also sitting down in minutes
@redpharaoh4527
@redpharaoh4527 3 года назад
Hey man, coming from someone who just came into basketball a year or so ago and wants to know basketball knowledge about everything, your videos are amazing with awesome editing. Keep up the great vids! 👍
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Thanks, I appreciate that, and welcome to the Basketball community!
@allanhouston6759
@allanhouston6759 3 года назад
@@jonnyarnett Shaquille O"Neal was in his Prime from 1994/95 to 2002/03.
@boondockbwoy14
@boondockbwoy14 3 года назад
Who is your choice of GOAT
@redpharaoh4527
@redpharaoh4527 3 года назад
DeeJay Honestly, my choice is Larry Bird, but the real choice is Michael Jordan. Bird’s my favorite player and probably could have been the goat if he wasn’t injured like he was. Who’s yours?
@Jearbearjenkins
@Jearbearjenkins 3 года назад
@@redpharaoh4527 Hey man. Glad to see you’re into Basketball. Been 9 months so you’ve probably seen way more facts. What team do you support?
@doomerconsumer
@doomerconsumer 3 года назад
everytime i learn something new about MJ (the GOAT) i’m even more shocked and the distance between him & other greats increases. he’s basically basketball Jesus.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
pretty much
@Hive5ive
@Hive5ive 3 года назад
Allen Iverson calls him black jesus for a reason.
@LarryGillis
@LarryGillis 3 года назад
nah bro simple marketing and league rule reasearch shows any super star nowaday would be equal or just below jordan. In jordan era, zone didnt exist, around when Kobe and shaq won too easy zone was needed cause shaq went crazy. Jordan is kobe without rules helping their style.
@doomerconsumer
@doomerconsumer 3 года назад
Michael Harkin uh no. in Jordan’s era, the league had hand checking, less fouls called, and less shots taken overall, yet he scored more than most stars today & was often the league’s best defender. plenty of players are marketed today, even more after Jordan made being a star more popular than anyone before him. zone defense being played more often in the 2000s/2010s only hurts your argument.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
L.A. Gonzalez lmao fr
@pranav8830
@pranav8830 3 года назад
Somebody : poured milk before the cereal MJ : that's when it became personal for me
@Jeffway24
@Jeffway24 3 года назад
Loving the series bro!
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
agreed, awesome idea
@jaybirdblakeslee630
@jaybirdblakeslee630 3 года назад
this was. theNBA. golden age .
@carlfeliciano988
@carlfeliciano988 3 года назад
Yep yep
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
Jaybird Blakeslee no doubt
@zappa3837
@zappa3837 Год назад
Definitely my new go-to NBA channel. Checks all the right boxes (compelling topics and analysis, passion, eloquence, concision, relevant background footage instead of the speaker, solid voice, and no annoyingly loud background music).
@anthonyurso3554
@anthonyurso3554 11 месяцев назад
Yea this guy is really good
@WavyJazzyBanks
@WavyJazzyBanks 3 года назад
Good vid. Always on point, my guy, ofc we could split a few hairs. Love the "good story" element to MVP considerations too: MJ in '98 is like a fairy tale. The Last Dance. The Last Shot. Went to my first NBA game that year: MJ at the AlamoDome. The shuttering and flaahing of cameras each time he shot a free throw...amazing atmosphere
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
its an experience like no other that's for sure
@Ivander85
@Ivander85 3 года назад
I was a huge fan of David Robinson growing up and I feel like a lot of people remember him as the guy who was destroyed by Hakeem after winning MVP and not getting it done as the go-to-guy and needing Tim Duncan to win a ring. But Robinson never had a true co-star until Duncan was drafted, and David was 32 by then. It's very rare for a franchise type of player to lead a team to a title as the sole star, like Hakeem in 1994 or Dirk in 2011. This video really does the Admiral justice, he was among the best from '89-'96.
@thecensoredmuscle563
@thecensoredmuscle563 Год назад
"Destroyed"? Only reason it didn't go 7 games was because Horry being the clutch playoff legend he is, hitting game winners for Houston. It was Robinson vs Hakeem, Clyde Drexler (an nba legend), Kenny the jet, Robert Horry going ham late in the games, same with Cassel. Hakeem did not win as the sole star, dude played with another legend and 2 extra playoff legends.
@MrE_
@MrE_ 3 года назад
New 90s mvps: MJ: 5 mvps Karl Malone: 2 mvps Robinson, Shaq, Hakeem: 1 mvp
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
I could see that maybe, lowkey Jordan still deserves more
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 3 года назад
and remember Mj should have won some more in the 80s he only won one but could easily have won 2-3 more
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 3 года назад
@@mixedpleasure4324 The year MJ won defensive player of the year, the award should have gone to Hakeem Olajuwon. Jordan was a great defensive guard, but Hakeem was monstrous that season on defense. And a great defensive center is always more valuable than a great defensive guard.
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 3 года назад
@@nostalgicbliss5547 Mj in 87 and 88 had back to back seasons with over 200 steals and 100 blocks as the only player ever to do it twice only Hakeem and pippen has done it one time each Mj should have won back to back dpoy and back to back mvps
@armandodelossantos736
@armandodelossantos736 3 года назад
@@mixedpleasure4324 Olajuwon recorded at least 100 steals and at least 200 blocks for his first 12 seasons
@MichaelCorleone_
@MichaelCorleone_ 3 года назад
In 97 Malone averaged, 2.2 less points, 4.0 more rebounds, 0.2 more assists, 7% higher FG%, 2.4% higher TS%, and like you said, less minutes.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
absolute baller Malone is
@zaggaona
@zaggaona 3 года назад
The mailman was an absolute beast.. the whole jazz team definitely is missing a dynasty.. im from Chicago so i say it without any bitterness
@mattb1446
@mattb1446 3 года назад
Whats that have to do with it. Its not best player of the year. Its most valuable player award. Big difference
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 года назад
Matt B If it’s most valuable player like you said, Hakeem would win it from 1990-1995
@zaggaona
@zaggaona 3 года назад
@@wanilimbe how? He didnt get championships and he didnt have enough stats to justify it? 2 championship.
@spencer4359
@spencer4359 3 года назад
So happy i found this channel! I miss 90’s NBA so much
@lovindc2004
@lovindc2004 3 года назад
Another great video Mr. Arnett. I'm really enjoying these MVP what if videos. Please keep them coming. Thanks.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
same here
@MDM679
@MDM679 3 года назад
Great series as always. Your channel is by far my favorite one among the basketball channels across the youtube.
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Dang, that means a lot! thanks for supporting my channel as always. Glad to have you.
@joaquintenedora-forte7446
@joaquintenedora-forte7446 3 года назад
Please do the 80's, Pretty Please...
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
I will! I've got a TON of requests for the 2010s, so I'll probably do that one first, but I do the 80s after that.
@joaquintenedora-forte7446
@joaquintenedora-forte7446 3 года назад
@@jonnyarnett I was the kid of the 2000's born at the end of the century. but me and my dad would watch old games as in 1980s and I really love Magic and Bird. However, Kobe is my favorite player and the day he died was one of the worst days of my life. As a life long Laker fan I appreciate what you do.
@leoncogaming
@leoncogaming 3 года назад
I AGREE with your changes, GREAT analysis!
@catherinelynnfraser2001
@catherinelynnfraser2001 3 года назад
Love the series...don’t always agree with you but this is sweet. Thank you😘
@ConnectedSims23
@ConnectedSims23 3 года назад
Awesome series, man. You have earned a new subscriber. Please do the 1980s and 2010s!
@anirudhkrishnan2071
@anirudhkrishnan2071 3 года назад
Loved this video, keep them coming
@Michael30786
@Michael30786 3 года назад
This was great Content Jonny Great Work 👍👍
@boostae7480
@boostae7480 3 года назад
I can’t wait for the 2010s video, nice vid as always Jonny.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
facts, Lebron deserves all the MVPs in that decade though idc what anyone says
@pranksterboy8371
@pranksterboy8371 3 года назад
InThePaint even In 2019 and 2016?
@benstern5112
@benstern5112 3 года назад
InThePaint not 2016 and 2019
@timmyg831
@timmyg831 3 года назад
You mean the no-touch defense, 3 point shooting, no dominant center decade?
@pranksterboy8371
@pranksterboy8371 3 года назад
TimmyK28just stop okay. Three point shooting is apart of basketball now so because it’s not mid range or layups this was a great decade
@KingDreams
@KingDreams 3 года назад
This video was very interesting loved this video finally recommended me a good one plus one sub
@ScottParisi
@ScottParisi 3 года назад
Nice video. Really enjoy this series.
@halam899live8
@halam899live8 3 года назад
Great video today keep it up your doing amazing job.
@iEliTePg
@iEliTePg 3 года назад
Great video! In my opinion, you should put the winner and runner up stat lines side by side every time for better comprehension. And also at the end of the video; maybe put a chart showing a final list of who won the award vs who “should’ve”’ won the award. Definitely subscribing!
@cashmoneysniper4166
@cashmoneysniper4166 3 года назад
YES!!!!! I haven't been this happy for a video😂
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
awesome video
@Coach_Ax
@Coach_Ax 3 года назад
This entire series is amazing bro keep up the good work
@MAEDtravel
@MAEDtravel 3 года назад
Thanks Jonny excellent as usual. Looking forward your next on the 80'
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
I think he's doing the 2010s next but will do the 80's after that
@dvon1097
@dvon1097 3 года назад
This is a damn good list. I cant argue anything although MJ showed Malone who the real best player is twice in a row and Hakeem showed DRob the same thing in 1995
@dtaybloom9472
@dtaybloom9472 3 года назад
Bro you're a great youtuber keep on doing what you're doing
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
1000000%
@nicklulgjuraj2774
@nicklulgjuraj2774 3 года назад
Great vid bro keep it up
@alecboegman2627
@alecboegman2627 3 года назад
Love the series!!!!! Keep it coming
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
same
@borugbarag5754
@borugbarag5754 3 года назад
MJ on early 90's is freakin scary.
@bloody_outlaw8000
@bloody_outlaw8000 3 года назад
late 80s is even scarier
@borugbarag5754
@borugbarag5754 3 года назад
@@bloody_outlaw8000 i'd still pref the 91 92 MJ. He has more muscle at that time compare to his early season.
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 3 года назад
88-93 MJ were the best prime years of a basketball player ever!! He peaked in 91.
@borugbarag5754
@borugbarag5754 3 года назад
@@nostalgicbliss5547 man, that MJ has 100 perfct stats on an nba game.
@slomofome14
@slomofome14 3 года назад
Borug Barag I always put 91 MJ on my created teams, I usually have him score more than my own created guy lol
@Maximillian200HP
@Maximillian200HP 3 года назад
The Last Dance "Took it personally" reference was a gem! GJ, Jonny!
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
lmao fr, MJ prob took this video personally lol
@johnedward5442
@johnedward5442 3 года назад
You did your research bro! Thanks! Really enjoyed the video!
@ShniitSchneyder
@ShniitSchneyder 3 года назад
fantastic new series, thanks ma man!
@jaspermccuaig5046
@jaspermccuaig5046 3 года назад
I love this series so much
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
awesome idea for sure
@titoaskeladd2639
@titoaskeladd2639 3 года назад
Absolutely great and original series at that. Kudos!!! 🙌
@charlesking678
@charlesking678 3 года назад
Awesome video! Good to see the award given based on merit, not team success and a good story. Good list.
@vernonleewarren280
@vernonleewarren280 3 года назад
This was excellent. Thank you sir
@shawn17g
@shawn17g 3 года назад
It's crazy how mj before his 1st retirement has better efficiency than the centers
@Life_Basketball
@Life_Basketball 3 года назад
Should've been more MJ
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Daniel Johnson you could certainly make that argument. He’s not done though. He was a beast in the 2nd half of the 80s too.
@Life_Basketball
@Life_Basketball 3 года назад
@@jonnyarnett that's true, just thought he should've had Malone's best player in 97 and 98. Michael was a tad bit slower in 97 and 98 but was way more skilled by that point.
@kfl16
@kfl16 3 года назад
Daniel Johnson mj= goat
@Life_Basketball
@Life_Basketball 3 года назад
Yeah,Le bron ain't got shit on him
@kfl16
@kfl16 3 года назад
Daniel Johnson facts
@enochp.3547
@enochp.3547 3 года назад
This channel is the most important one on RU-vid. Keep them coming
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
Enoch P. one of the greatest channels no doubt
@JoseRivas-wd4zd
@JoseRivas-wd4zd 3 года назад
Always enjoy your videos .
@Lanse1984
@Lanse1984 3 года назад
Moral of the story is. Jordan was on another level entirely in a league of legends
@GtheGreat1
@GtheGreat1 3 года назад
Jordan should have 7 mvps in the 90's
@meenamjah
@meenamjah 3 года назад
it's absurd that he didn't win 9 straight or whatever.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
@@meenamjah facts, its absurd Lebron doesn't have more also though
@kingdinodragonite3470
@kingdinodragonite3470 3 года назад
@@inthepaint2907 nah. KD was better in 2014. Curry was better in 2016. In 2017, even with statpads, Westbrook/Harden has better numbers than Lebron. 2018 is definitely Harden in the regular season. 2019, Harden and Giannis are definitely better. Lebron "Best Player": 2009-2013, 2015 Lebron with "MVP formula": 2009,2010,2012,2013. It's fair. Keep sucking Lebron though.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
King Dino Dragonite thanks for the feedback 😁😁
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 года назад
The fact that LeBron doesn’t have one in 2018 is absurd
@jdm2339
@jdm2339 3 года назад
10 out of 10, my guy. Just like all your vids! :D keep up the great work
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 3 года назад
another great vid man
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
facts
@AlstonMurray2005
@AlstonMurray2005 3 года назад
Hakeem In 94, in my opinion had the greatest season all time. Won DYOP, MVP, won the Finals and Finals MVP. He was the best defender without question that season, and took full advantage of Jordan not playing that year. Man I wish I could've saw him and MJ play in the finals
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
would've been a series like no other
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
James Broms well said
@mj23goat3
@mj23goat3 2 года назад
@@inthepaint2907 The Bulls would've punked the Rockets handily.
@IAmRyan25
@IAmRyan25 3 года назад
Clyde is my guy, but he was NEVER an 'elite' shooter.
@rickbriss33
@rickbriss33 3 года назад
Super dope video 🔥
@zachjette5250
@zachjette5250 3 года назад
Great series
@chanendlerbong
@chanendlerbong 3 года назад
1990-1993 and 1996-1998 is MJ for these who dont know and for hardcore Lebron fans
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
well Lebron didn't even play then so idk what your point is
@elijahruderman
@elijahruderman 3 года назад
Dude this is only talking about the regular season.
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 3 года назад
1993 should go to Hakeem.
@stealthiscool
@stealthiscool 3 года назад
@@benjaminan1183 No chance
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 3 года назад
@@stealthiscool Yes chance
@OfficialDuhon29
@OfficialDuhon29 3 года назад
Just finished watching the 2000’s and he delivers with another BANG!!! *Mike Breen Voice
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
hahah, amazing commentating Duhon lmao
@Andrewmehr_
@Andrewmehr_ 3 года назад
Love this series
@williamfales456
@williamfales456 3 года назад
subscribing for this just saw the first one this series is awesome
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie 3 года назад
2010s? 80s?
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
They're coming!
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie
@Professional_Dirtbag_Hippie 3 года назад
Jonny Arnett looking forward to those then
@brianmontgomery580
@brianmontgomery580 3 года назад
@@jonnyarnett you gonna do the 70s
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Elmo Chops I’m pretty sure I will. Based on how much people are enjoying the series, I’ll probably do as many as I can tbh. They’re fun for me to write too.
@MrE_
@MrE_ 3 года назад
@@jonnyarnett YESSSSS!
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 3 года назад
can’t wait to get to the 70s with the NBA AND ABA
@Mektek19
@Mektek19 3 года назад
Exceptional work, wow 👏
@asymptoticspatula
@asymptoticspatula 3 года назад
Great series! The “MJ took it personal” meme always gets a laugh outta me.
@camsochill4825
@camsochill4825 3 года назад
Bron sexuals:MJ can’t shoot
@camsochill4825
@camsochill4825 3 года назад
Jelly Bean yo you right I respect bron as the second greatest player but bron fans be delusional I swear
@stephencruize9367
@stephencruize9367 3 года назад
You call Lebron fans delusional then place him second all time? Hmm
@dudelitte7817
@dudelitte7817 3 года назад
Stephen Cruize beacuse Lebron is the 2nd greatest of all time
@dudelitte7817
@dudelitte7817 3 года назад
Jelly Bean hey man that’s your opinion not mine good bye sir
@MrE_
@MrE_ 3 года назад
@Jelly Bean anyone who says "he *will never* beat _______" is delusional. You are idolizing the past as if no one can ever be greater lol
@GANGLYMAN117
@GANGLYMAN117 3 года назад
4:07 pretty much sums up MJ in one clip. Just put 6 rings on his hand and you're good to go.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
well said
@carnek
@carnek 3 года назад
Another great video. Please do 2010s if is not too complicated :)
@karimbelaribia9571
@karimbelaribia9571 3 года назад
Great video
@ilichjames
@ilichjames 3 года назад
Pippen:"Hey Karl,the mailman doesn't deliver on sundays".LOL
@cd2ogz1
@cd2ogz1 3 года назад
Lol
@momoneylessproblems9183
@momoneylessproblems9183 3 года назад
MJ: When a shooting guard averages almost the same shooting percentage as one of the best centers in the league.
@tobsixi6702
@tobsixi6702 3 года назад
Well the 90s were very different from the modern NBA, offenses were actually build around Centers so naturally defenses were also focused on stopping them + spacing wasnt nearly as good as in the modern NBA thus making the paint and post more crowded with defenders so shooting over 50% when always battleing against other Bigs with poor spacing was actually quite the challenge compared to modern Centers where a lot just camp in the dunker spot, waiting for oops and misses that they can clean up
@Vibe1610
@Vibe1610 3 года назад
@@tobsixi6702 That's true. Still a great accomplishment tho
@Ali-on8dc
@Ali-on8dc 3 года назад
@@tobsixi6702 that basically makes it tougher to score cause today u beat ur man ur at the cup for an easy layup or dunk those days ur 4 and 5 man were in the paint waiting to slam u upside ur head. Yes it was arguably the toughest era so score in in nba history so what jordan did was beyond impressive.
@bartomiej9807
@bartomiej9807 3 года назад
Nice video. 1 thing that could be improved - use more side to side stat comparisons while discussing two players. It helps focusing on the topic. You could also add some (but not much) red/green colour to notice better individual stats.
@yoannbeausse8531
@yoannbeausse8531 3 года назад
Great video, just wanted to correct the stat line of Shaq in 93-94 (at 6:50 in the video) : he did not average 5.1 apg, but only 2.4apg (if he did, it would have been an easy MVP season imo ! 29-13-5-3 with 60% shooting ?!? Come on ! xD).
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Thank you. A couple other people pointed that out too. Idk what the heck I was looking at when I typed in 5.1 apg. lol
@zurvey
@zurvey 3 года назад
A *HUGE* flaw in your thinking is that stats indicate who the better players are. Not even win shares or PER tell us who the best players are. For example, Kobe gets compared to Jordan all the time, but Kobe's role while Shaq was on the Lakers was more comparable to Pippen, not Jordan. Performing in that role altered Kobe's stats considerably. Was Kobe a *worse* player in the Shaq years? Of course not. And Kobe played at least one season with a broken finger on his shooting hand. That affected his shooting percentage and other stats, but injuries heal over the course of a season and can potentially allow a player to be more effective again - a common happening that isn't reflected in a season's stat line. A player's contribution to winning - to the team's overall record against all other players - HAS to always be considered heavily in determining a player's value. By the way, I think very concept of an MVP award in a team game is fundamentally flawed, but it does sell sneakers. 😉
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 года назад
Pano Kosto Kobe was no winner though with mediocre players.
@awesomereviews1561
@awesomereviews1561 3 года назад
It’s not a flaw, it’s just the criteria by which he decided to judge. As long as he is consistent with it, it’s not a problem. You can make a different list with different criteria but you have to be consistent with it .
@justinvincent1691
@justinvincent1691 3 года назад
This channel is so good just like JxMhighroller! You have earned my subscription sir. 🔥🔥
@basha8836
@basha8836 3 года назад
Just watched this video for the 3rd or 4th time and I noticed that in still images Charles always guarded the centers like Shaq, David, Hakeem and Ewing lmao. The guy have no fear!
@nba2kclassicmatchups906
@nba2kclassicmatchups906 3 года назад
I'd give 93' to Hakeem and 90' to Barkley. But I cannot say that the choice of Jordan is also wrong.
@benjaminan1183
@benjaminan1183 3 года назад
I agree.
@leptonparticle238
@leptonparticle238 2 года назад
So basicly, if MJ didnt retire and didnt get injured, he would have been the real MVP of the league for 10 seasons steaight from 1987 to 1996...
@kingofdetroit358
@kingofdetroit358 3 года назад
Yes I'm happy u made this video...your videos r better than other youtubers
@jonnyarnett
@jonnyarnett 3 года назад
Thanks man! That means a lot.
@kingofdetroit358
@kingofdetroit358 3 года назад
@@jonnyarnett your welcome
@DavidAF311
@DavidAF311 3 года назад
3:26 my goodness showing Chuck’s shin girth it’s amazing he moved around so fluently
@nostalgicbliss5547
@nostalgicbliss5547 3 года назад
Dude was thicc. Had tree trunks for legs. His base was really strong and he could run and jump with the best of them, especially in his Philly years.
@jeffreymann6990
@jeffreymann6990 3 года назад
Jordan the real GOAT
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
true that
@soulpringle1612
@soulpringle1612 3 года назад
6:12 Mj is the goat bro🐐. I’m sorry but Bron isn’t close yet
@bentongrq5160
@bentongrq5160 3 года назад
Youll hurt bronsexual bro. They think stats alone is matter ,
@Tauror
@Tauror 3 года назад
Thats all i needed and it became personal with me
@n.a.4678
@n.a.4678 3 года назад
Fantastic list! looking forward to the 80s
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
N. A. Gonna be a lot of debates for that decade lmao
@shivenpathuri3153
@shivenpathuri3153 3 года назад
1989/90 - 1992/93: Michael Jordan 1993/94 - 1994/95: Hakeem Olajuwon 1995/96 - 1997/98: Michael Jordan 1998/99: Karl Malone
@liamnance1029
@liamnance1029 3 года назад
It should be: 90: Jordan 91: Jordan 92: Jordan 93: Hakeem 94: Hakeem 95: Robinson 96: Jordan 97: Jordan 98: Jordan 99: Shaq
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
spot on
@ecnumber1fan
@ecnumber1fan 3 года назад
Looks about right to me
@LenoD79
@LenoD79 3 года назад
Agreed
@mixedpleasure4324
@mixedpleasure4324 3 года назад
Nah where Mj missing a couple of mvps is in the 80s
@the757general2
@the757general2 2 года назад
Jordan was clearly better in 93
@jamaldaniels7402
@jamaldaniels7402 3 года назад
I didn't know the mailman won in 99?. Im glad i found your channel.. Keep the content coming
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 3 года назад
So.. Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Hakeem, Hakeem, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan?
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
That's how i'd rank it
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
Eric Larry lmao I wasn’t serious about Jordan winning all of those, but does he deserve most of them yes
@Splackavellie85
@Splackavellie85 3 года назад
Eric Larry Well, considering the Admiral pulled a Giannis in the playoffs, it would be hard to argue he was the better player over Hakeem.
@inthepaint2907
@inthepaint2907 3 года назад
Lesley Harrys true
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 года назад
Karl Malone in 97’ and Charles Barkley
@SealofPerfection
@SealofPerfection 3 года назад
The late 80's through the 90's was the best era for the NBA. That said, in at LEAST the 90's, if not a few years before, MJ was the best and most valuable player every year. He should have 6 MVP's, minimum. Look at the impact he had on his team: The year he retired, the Bulls couldn't even beat the Knicks and get to the East Finals, much less the NBA Finals. Almost the same exact team, added, plus Kukoc, drop Paxon/add Kerr. And if you look at some of the role players, their numbers dropped a good bit without MJ there. HUGE difference. MVP. GOAT.
@wanilimbe
@wanilimbe 3 года назад
My guy the Bulls were still top 2 in the league without Jordan, that entire game 5 vs the Knicks was rigged. Your underrating that 94’ and 95’ team.
@kevinjackson9573
@kevinjackson9573 3 года назад
@@wanilimbe no the bulls were the team with 9th most wins and the Knicks were clearly better than those bulls they had Patrick Ewing , Oakley and John Starks ( Starks averaged 20 points in regular season that year)
@SealofPerfection
@SealofPerfection 3 года назад
@@wanilimbe Results matter. Bottom line is, they finished 2nd in the Central, and lost to the Knicks. The same Knicks that they owned with MJ. Sure, they were still good, but they were not and never would have been a championship team without Jordan. That's an MVP right there.
@jbailey690
@jbailey690 3 года назад
@@wanilimbe Here you are being proven wrong yet again. Must be a Lebron hating Jordan the GOAT this much and constantly proving you have no idea what you're talking about. Typical.
@KingPurpose18
@KingPurpose18 3 года назад
2010 nba > 90s nba
@jaydenkumar4695
@jaydenkumar4695 3 года назад
These vids must take a lot of work. Subscribed for support bro
@headicuss
@headicuss 3 года назад
Nice video it wasn't bias at all and I'm a bulls fan . Great great video.
@masonwright2560
@masonwright2560 3 года назад
Who else just clicked on this video to see how much MVP's MJ had
@hubbthepoet612
@hubbthepoet612 3 года назад
Should’ve picked a different decade. I can’t imagine taking a MVP away from MJ
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