If Your Shocks Are Bad This Might Be Why

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If Your Shocks Are Bad This Might Be Why
In this video I install a new set of Bilstein 4600 series shocks on the rear of my 2005 GMC Envoy. This SUV came, from the factory, equipped with Bilstein T25 shocks but I suspected them to be worn out. Interestingly, the Envoy only has 39K original miles. So, the shocks don't have that many miles BUT they are from 2005. After removing them I noticed a big difference in the dampening ability between the new and old.
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@SlowCarsFastSFV Год назад

Lowered car guy here.. I'm jealous of how much easier it is for you to work on that SUV..

@davem5308 3 года назад

I own an 04 GMC Envoy and it could stand to have new shocks. This video was informative and helpful. Good job.

@f16thud 3 года назад

I had a 2004 trailblazer, and it road like a rocking boat going down the road….horrible! I put the Bilstein 4600s on the front and back, night and day difference! Solid ride and felt like I had much better control of the vehicle. I also found that trailblazers/envoys eat swaybar end links as well! After I went through a set of Moogs I had enough….bought some MAXXlinks from suspensionmaxx, and was done for good!

@carsandhealthtoddrosenzwei2661 3 года назад

I was PRAYING that shock would kick out at the bottom while you were testing it's compression by hand. Great video. And I LOVE MY 5100'S on my Denali.

@lindseyg5090 3 года назад

Hey! I've got an 02 Envoy XL that needs new rear shocks and this video is great for me, thank you :)

@justsurf3328 3 года назад

Shocks! Oh my! I do miss them. Strut assembly on the Chevrolet Impala put in 37,000 miles ago. Tomorrow, going to the shop that put them in to get them replaced. Even if they don't charge for the labor, including the front end alignment, I'm out an overtime pay day.

@tigerbalm666 3 года назад

I installed these on the rear of my Jeep Liberty and the ride is better than new!

@westcoastronnieOC714 3 года назад

I have a 2011 Chevy Silverado 2500 4x4 6L gas truck. A few years back I put the Bilstein 5100 on my truck and so far so good . Plus I like the Polish look better than the yellow and blue underneath my truck. Some trucks just don't look good with the yellow and blue underneath I wish they would give you color options. That's why I went with the 5100s better shock and also like the polished look.

@Dhi-fe5eu 2 года назад

Great video. Spoke clearly. I’m looking for shocks and think I might get the 4600.

@sporttruck5103 3 года назад

I have the same Bilstein shock absorbers on my two C1500 trucks. They are the best shocks you can buy for your truck.

@adammammana367 3 года назад

I have a lift on my 2005 Silverado 1500 crew cab rear wheel drive. It has a 7” pro comp lift. I recently switched to bilstein 5100’s. Night day difference. Especially in the front. It has coil spring suspension too. I also installed a dual shock pro comp steering stabilizer and that made a huge difference in everything as far as steering goes. Quieter way more solid. I believe if anybody has my same model year regardless of a lift or not you must install that steering stabilizer. It’s a pro comp product so it has their shocks ive tried finding bilstein shocks to replace them but no luck. I guess I could measure them and match up a random bilstein stabilizer shock to replace them. It would look really cool with twin stainless steel stabilizers too. The pro comp’s are white.

@Qui-9 3 года назад

I've learned on my car, the rear shocks handle the excursion limit of the rear suspension, so putting the vehicle rear on jackstands, then holding the rear suspension in the middle with a jack, will let you exchange the shocks easy. If you lower the rear suspension with the jack, you can simply replace the springs too. My '96 Grand Am GT was a bouncy car, I don't know why. Would bottom out after some speed bumps. Replaced the shocks and struts to same effect. I wish I knew how I could get stiffer sets without paying an arm and leg.

@BirdogEd 3 года назад

I find your presentation SHOCKING! 😂 Thank you 😎🇺🇸❤️

@saangsoeurn1248 4 месяца назад

All those times he keep us suspended

@TG-dv4yu 3 года назад

Rock Auto had the best prices and availability on Bilstein's a couple weeks ago.

@vincentolson3122 3 года назад

That is so clean underneath!

@Jo10Mo 2 года назад

What do you recommend for an 04 Chevy Tahoe rwd. I need something for on and off road dirty trails

@x-man5056 3 года назад

Bad idea, the Envoy is going to ride very harsh. Those Bilstein's are way to stiff on compression. Outsmarted yourself Jimmy.

@jokly1264 3 года назад

That's what I was thinking...do you want a smooth ride or a harsh ride? The originals are going to give you a more plush ride. I suppose if he's after a tighter cornering feel, this would do it. But bumps and potholes will be jarring.

@kylemlm 3 года назад

X-Man you nailed it...well said.

@Snipermicke 3 года назад

the black ones are B4 "comfort dampers" yellow ones are B6 " offroad dampers" yellow are harder and will give the truck a harscher ride feeling the bumps more.

@punker4Real 3 года назад

if your area has a lot of pot holes it's like being off road

@shakazulu3572 3 года назад

How do they compare to Monroe

@Snipermicke 3 года назад

@@shakazulu3572 i use monroe now on my saab 9-5 but i like shocks from bilstein better. monroe has sport and OE like bilstein b6 sport and b4 OE comfort. had b4 on my volvo and pajero sport and was very happy with them.

@reyperez3424 3 года назад

@@Snipermicke Monroe are cheap and don’t last like oem, I would never recommend Monroe tbh , I know a lot of people would disagree but I have owned Monroe and change them each year because they started leaking until I sold the car I only buy bilstein and never had any issues

@Snipermicke 3 года назад

@@reyperez3424 yeah my monre on the saab they are getting a bit wonky after now 2 years so my next will be bilstein. monroe was in stock and bilstein was a few weeks backorder so i put monroe on they have worked and the price was almost half so i cant complain with a 40$/each instead of bilstein b4 70$/each. if you have a small city runner monroe will work fine but a highway cruiser bilstein is better.

@cndream1 3 года назад

Did you check with Shock Surplus ? They show in stock

@paulrooster2108 3 года назад

Pro Tip , have you a good size tapered prybar , once you push shock up , slip bar in diff side of shock ,

@A_Castro_3 2 года назад

95 suburban has 2 inch extension with the bilsteins? Do you know how compressed 4600 can get with still working correctly?

@chrismacurdy9605 3 года назад

My 99 gmc sierra 1500 4wd stepside has a superlift 6in lift kit with bilsten 5100 series shocks. It rides dang nice.

@1RoadGarage 3 года назад

Good to hear!

@toyotabrony 2 года назад

@1ROAD, does those bottom rear shock mounting sleeves came as a whole shock? Because I bought a b6 rear shock that’s made for Toyota Tacoma 2005-2021. And I will be installed them on my lifted Scion xB. They both have the same top stem and bottom eyelet. But it didn’t have a sleeve that it came with. So I figured they design a bit different. And I discover bilstein sells those rear shock mount sleeves. Would they fit my bilstein b6 that didn’t came with it? I know it won’t work that it’s not made to e lift but I do know someone who can definitely makes custom made rear shock extensions, to re-correct the extended length.

@Abdulaziz-tx4tc 3 года назад

Dose it fit the same model for the two door YUKON ? YUKON 1998

@jcnme2020 3 года назад

I Concur Brother. Another great video.

@davidrose7823 2 месяца назад

I'm taking mine off. My Ram 2500 rides so rough now that it isn't tolerable. Found this video while looking for shock recommendations. Spent a couple hundred dollars for nothing.

@carlgriffin1109 3 года назад

Bilstein B6 are described as performance shocks and struts not necessarily off-road.

@SFCRambo60 3 года назад

Using a drift pin helps align the shock to get the bolt through.

@1800Beatdown 3 года назад

Dude that undercarriage looks better than new! Thing should be in a museum

@missingremote4388 3 года назад

I changed my 4 shocks 13 years ago 1995 suburban 454 4x4. I think they're ACDelco

@offroadastroothervans.4685 3 года назад

You can jack the back of the truck up higher and slide the shock right in

@SilverBullet93GT 3 года назад

true dat

@fatplumber3887 3 года назад

Yep he made that way harder than it needed to be

@x-man5056 3 года назад

Often the rear shocks will extend beyond the full axle drop on leaf spring trucks. Put the top bolt in, cut the strap, be ready to slide bottom bolt in as it slowly extends. If you miss the opportunity, you have to compress the shock but usually not too bad.

@offroadastroothervans.4685 3 года назад

@@x-man5056 it's just the opposite leaf springs give you way more Flex then any other vehicle

@x-man5056 3 года назад

@@offroadastroothervans.4685 NO they most certainly do NOT. You lift the rear of a pickup off the ground, pull the bottom shock bolts and the shock will extend past where the axle droop stops every time if it is stock. Only coil sprig suspension travel is limited by the extended length of the shock in the rear. The only exception would be some kind of custom built rock crawling rig, designed for excessive flex, not any stock truck on the road.

@scottpomygalski6078 7 месяцев назад

those trucks are mint underneath, what state are you working from?

@RC4X4 3 года назад

Those are nice shocks. I prefer KYB's on my 2003 2500HD over the factory ones. The KYB's give it a better ride and they are thinner.

@lysias55 3 года назад

kyb's are bicycle shocks tho

@toyotabrony 2 года назад

@@lysias55 not really. KYB’s are made in Japan for automotive vehicles.

@lysias55 2 года назад

@@toyotabrony yeah they are, they’re too damn small.

@toyotabrony 2 года назад

@@lysias55 if they have some that’s made for those vehicles. That’s what they made for. Same as the factory. And they have some options for something that’s a bit more

@devilsadvocate2548 Год назад

@Toyota Brony my old dual cab Ute had KYBs as stock and I changed them for Bilstein B6 off road using the same front torsion bars. The difference between the dampening capability of the two was like night and day. The KYBs bounced a couple of times over the bigger bumps making the front wallow and feel completely disconnected to the firmer leaf sprung and skipping/jittering rear. The B6s, whilst a little firmer, had no bounce (even after 100,000km) and even on the big bumps/ wash outs had minimal to no secondary movement. The rear stopped skipping sideways completely and the 'jitters' totally vanished. The front and rear finally felt 'in sync' with each other. Far more confidence inspiring and comfortable than the KYBs, even though they were firmer. This was especially so when it started to get really rough. IMHO they're in a completely different league.

@paulburr3834 3 года назад

Question for the 4600's can they be used for a 2 to 3 inch lift

@wild8757 Год назад

No, the 5100s are ment for lifted trucks

@THETRUTH-DEATHCARDS 3 года назад

Hello again brother it's me again your old bud! I have Rancho Shocks and feel way better the Rough County have not tried the once you installed 🙄also Jimmy I see you have that red safety Latch remove it asap!! Don't want to go details 🤔 but one bent on the ???? To red rope and there is a free for all?🤫 I removed the one I had, just bent a long nail and place it on a old wood or plastic stick for emergency. Also install slider lock simple to do, make sure to get 2 one on each side hope that help brother!

@z71ne1 3 года назад

Got my bilstein shocks to replace the factory ones on my z71 from shock warehouse

@sporttruck5103 3 года назад

Same Bilstein shocks belongs to Z71 chassis already from the factory.

@grandn8646 3 года назад

Do you have the air ride system on your Tahoe? If so have you ever had to replace the shocks on it?

@jewllake 3 года назад

no, he had the regular nivomat self leveling hydraulic shocks.

@grandn8646 3 года назад

@@jewllake Sorry but he was changing the shocks on his wife's Envoy. He also has a Chevy Tahoe. That was the car I was asking about

@AC-hq7ce 3 года назад

@@grandn8646 He doesn’t have a Tahoe. He has 2 suburbans. 1 is a 95’ and the other one is an 03’. He replaced the rear nivomat shocks on his 03 with the Bilstein 5100 shocks and Bilstein springs. He has a video of that install on his channel also. I don’t know if this set up will work if you remove your air set up. You’ll have to look it up. I’ve had my set up on my 03 suburban for 4 years now and it’s GREAT! I changed my set up when my nivomat shocks started leaking and when I looked around to replace them, they were about 400-500 bucks each. This was a cheaper and better option.

@jamierobinson8486 2 года назад

chrome end of bilstein's go down bro. I called their tech support.

@idgaffub 3 года назад

Do you torq it to correct specs?

@BrokenRRT 3 года назад

You should but most don’t. What you should do for sure though is anytime jacking the wheels off the ground to replace shocks is to go back and tighten those shock mount bolts after you put the vehicle back on the ground.

@B-S1999 3 года назад

Need to paint the underbody of the 95 so it doesn't rust like its starting to

@jokly1264 3 года назад

That would be considered pristine in the salt belt.

@jeffalan6339 2 года назад

Want a tip? Use floor jack, bottle jack of the body jack from the factory. I've learned a better way. I'm lazy like Bill gates said find lazy person will find better way.

@Danomega1 Год назад

Was there an answer here? Nice video and all, but its content like this that gets in the way of finding info related to "diagnosing a bad shock" for instance. This was to help YOU help AMAZON sell Bilstein shocks, period. Please re-title to "How to take out shocks and put other ones in and how to talk about it, and how to love Bilstein"

@zanewright8432 Год назад

Must be in south..my 2003 s10 body looks great underbody total corrosion..ohio salt/brine on roads winter

@barbiesawada245 3 года назад

Changed all four Struts on my 2007 Ford Expedition 10 years ago, used Monroes, ride was better than factory Struts.

@pindiwal4717 3 года назад

Really? Cause I've heard Monroe's are the worst as compared to all others?

@barbiesawada245 3 года назад

@@pindiwal4717 yep , and they are still on the truck and doing well.

@rototiller78 3 года назад

I have the 5100s on my truck. I have them installed with the "boot" side down unlike yours that are "boot" side up. Brian aka FordTechMaculoco said that he called the Bilstein engineers & they recommended the "boot" side down.

@buddyrebel_Garcia 4 месяца назад

@1:20 BIG difference it’s much THICKER’mi love the girth! And veiny

@tigerbalm666 3 года назад

Sad that 80%+ drivers don't realize their shock are bad after 40+K miles. After 120K, i was getting uneven tire wear and weird cupping in the treads...a shame Bilstein doesn't make many front struts.

@fredflintstone4715 3 года назад

But the shocks have a 'lifetime' warranty, so they'll never wear out. At least, if you try to replace them using the warranty... probably?

@nealcampbell3190 3 года назад

I am like you. When ever I acquire a new ride. First thing I do is toss in some Bilstein's. That is unless it have an equivalent like Fox or King. That only happened once so i'll say that was the oddity.

@daviddownie3431 3 года назад

Bilstein plant is 10 minutes from my house in Hamilton Ohio

@zdravkomomci7570 3 года назад

Good video but don't be fooled in thinking a bigger wider physical shocker is a better one cos its bigger. What matters most is the valves that hold and release pressures in the shocker that makes it softer or harder for the application needed not the physical size of it.

@philllsxga.7737 3 года назад

I had a 2001 ZR2, I sold it with 252,000 miles on the FACTORY ORIGINAL bilstein shockes and only one leaked!!

@darrenporsch 2 года назад

Are factory installed bilstein's monotubes or the twin tubes

@1RoadGarage 2 года назад

Mono

@darrenporsch 2 года назад

@@1RoadGarage hmmm surprise they don't work better if they're monitor tubes. I guess that's cuz the oems usually tune the suspensions for soft ride and he smaller shock you shown is cheaper to manufacturer

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

Nope. Bilstein b4 oem shocks are definitely twin tube. It’s the same as KYB - excel G shocks as well. 4600 is the monotube

@darrenporsch 4 месяца назад

@@toyotabrony I know all the yellow billsteins of mono tubes the cheaper ones is that the OEMs use are painted black and they're twin tubes and I know on some cars you could pay for upgraded suspension Bilstein monotubes did it say it right on the window sticker or mono tube shocks I've had cars like that before

@darrenporsch 4 месяца назад

@@1RoadGaragethose factory installed bilstein's are the cheap twin tube OEMs they used they're always painted black like those. You can get OEM Bilstein mono tubes they're always yellow. Go look for OEM Bilstein replacements they're black they're twin tubes and what's cheaper than the mono tubes check Rock Auto you don't believe me

@jeromeburrasca6710 3 года назад

5100 and 5160s are the way to go now a days.

@1RoadGarage 3 года назад

They’re all good aren’t they?

@jeromeburrasca6710 3 года назад

1ROAD Yes, but the 5100 series performance and anti rust abilities are superior.

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

Actually both 4600 and 5100 are better options and are the way to go nowadays because, both shocks internal are the same. Just longer length differences and for applications as well. According to shock surplus, they said both 4600 and 5100 are pretty Muh h identical feel. Hard to notice slightly difference.

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

@@jeromeburrasca6710with good quality paint, like on b6, they can last as well

@Supercell725 3 года назад

Jimmy, you convinced me buddy.

@germanjesus 3 года назад

I’m shocked

@saturnsl21999 Год назад

Still waiting for part 2

@adamlewellen5081 2 года назад

You don't cut the strap until fully installed.

@EricErnst 3 года назад

I've always heard it's pronounced as BIL-STINE

@Loudpedal10 3 года назад

That’s the correct way, it’s German after all.

@offroadastroothervans.4685 3 года назад

@@Loudpedal10 you be right!!!

@flyboy2610 3 года назад

Another shocking video from Jimmy!

@jonathanhuerta2784 3 года назад

Would like to see a review on this SUV’s with fox shock

@MN2_Kevin_Hill_1970 3 года назад

Fox shocks are junk. I had a set on my Tahoe and switched back to Bilstein

@offroadastroothervans.4685 3 года назад

@@MN2_Kevin_Hill_1970 id like to try some ! I have rancho 9000 adjustable ones right now

@ChuddleBuggy 3 года назад

I only use twin-tubes and never Bilsteins. Those make your car ride like a freakin' skateboard.

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

It truly depends on ur application. It’s a 5050 I hear people sayin it’s firm, and also more comfort or both

@christopherzube551 3 года назад

I do agree that the Bilsteins he installed are to firm for the envoy. While back I tried on the trailblazer and was way to harsh for me on the Michigan pothole roads. I ended up with returning for the acdelco originals and are a much comfier ride. The soft ride suspension in my opinion is the best way to go on the gmt 360 chassis. But their are people who do prefer the much firmer ride. It's all to what someone prefers. I wish they never stopped producing these vehicles. I prefer the straight six over the new trailblazers any day.

@wild8757 Год назад

Do you remember which ones you put in or the part numbers, I was going to get 4600s myself but changed my mind to rough, I have an 06 trailblazer, rock auto has two different ones that it says fit my vehicle

@devilsadvocate2548 Год назад

Don't forget that you can easily re-valve the Bilsteins if they're to(sic) firm.

@TacticalKitty01 3 года назад

I need new shocks for my 76 GMC

@GhettoFabulous670 3 года назад

Why not 5100s?

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

Because he wants a stock ride height. 5100 are lifted applications

@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq 2 года назад

“bill stine”

@bigw0rm1 2 года назад

Stein

@teal80 3 года назад

Yooo

@benkanobe7500 3 года назад

Shocks - Bilsteins CHECK, Tires - Michelins, CHECK, Brakes - (shocking) Factory Original, CHECK! Shocks, tires, brakes, they are like parachutes, do want a "good deal" or do you want a good life?

@LGTheOneFreeMan Год назад

At 4:00 I just did this today... why not use a ratchet strap around the ends? That's what I did. As long as you don't jostle the line it won't harm the paint and you can dial it in to the length you want. And then you just loosen it and separate the strap and ratchet. Replacing suspension on a 93' Toyota T100 and it turns out the stock KYBs were totally flat. It's been riding on the leaf springs for a while and not one person thought to try and scam us into a new set of shocks. Seriously.

@Peter_Riis_DK 3 года назад

It seems mr. Jimmy doesn't know what shocks are for.

@1RoadGarage 3 года назад

👍

@Peter_Riis_DK 3 года назад

@@1RoadGarage For dampening the oscillations of the unsprung mass. 😁 👍

@jokly1264 3 года назад

@@Peter_Riis_DK I don't need my oscillations any more wet

@Peter_Riis_DK 3 года назад

@@jokly1264 Neither do I. 😁

@murauder 2 года назад

I failed to see the why explained in this video. All I saw is you don't know when a damper is bad.

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

I’m sure he does

@faceinthecrowd5810 Год назад

That GMC definitely does not live in the North East!!

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

Would that matter anyway?

@brianfraneysr.5326 Год назад

So, why are my shocks bad???

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

Because age

@pra3t0rian 3 года назад

Bilstein or go home.

@b6schilke996 2 года назад

Get yourself a set of ratchet wrenches

@Sentry1835 3 года назад

real bad optics to have what appears to be the U.S. flag on the ground in your thumbnail, only while watching the video is it clear it's a towel.

@joebruiser7167 3 года назад

First!!

@pfoxhound 3 года назад

Please, get yourself impact guns. Much easier and much faster in most cases.

@frenchfrysz6695 3 года назад

wherever you live, you are spoiled lol any 2005 vehicle in WNY will be so rotted out omg.

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

It’s his video

@garysgarage.2841 Год назад

This guy is so full of it he didn't notice a difference at least not for the better probably rides rougher now.

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

I don’t know that. The ride quality between b6 and owl b4 is a major difference. U can easily feel it

@gevinstuder4441 3 года назад

First

@robbybeard1122 3 года назад

So why are the shocks bad. Name of video is misleading

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

Wrong. He’s talkin about the original oem bilstein shocks. And even though it has lo miles. Over the year it can age a lot and affects the ride quality. Causing the shocks to be bad to drive.

@junkemails5050 Год назад

Was yours made in mexico? Made in india? Or made in USA? Crap!! I got the rear ones made in mexico and front made in india, i hate that, i wanted made in usa

@toyotabrony 4 месяца назад

Lol hey it truly doesn’t matter. But actually. If it says made, than that can be different. But it’s labeled as Assemble in Mexico, or assemble in US. That means nothing. As long as it’s MADE in Germany. That remains best high quality monotube shocks. So it wouldn’t matter what 4600 u choose. It will labeled randomly. If it rides supreme, why argue.