I remember being shown this movie scene in a music class back in elementary school. I never knew who Beethoven was or why he was important. This scene changed my life -- I basically was fascinated with his music, his life, and his legacy. I will always be grateful that I had the chance of being introduced to Beethoven in this manner.
First time I heard this song as a teenager, I got chills over my entire body and felt like I was floating. Years later when I saw this movie, I finally realized why. Apparently, it was the story of my life.
Exactly. Same. The movie captured it so brilliantly. I can’t believe how old this movie is now 😆 but I still picture this scene every time I hear this song. Or when I’m at float therapy 😆💛
Beethoven's music helped me in my journey in this life...how an amazing soul that can reach the soul of others through infinite time....is just the great miracle....
I watched Immortal Beloved a couple nights ago IN HONOR OF BEETHOVEN'S BIRTHDAY. I LOVE YOU BEETHOVEN! Our souls are alike, because we will not let anyone stop us in our quest to get our hearts' desire!
an amazing metaphore of Beethoven's salvation, his road from affliction, to happiness, from pain, to joy, from a mortal man, to the eternity of the skies...
Whatever a person's convictions about the supernatural might be, it's hardly conceivable one could listen and remain a materialist. This is audial splendor. My heart soars. I am moved to bow my head before the Unseen, that which is greater than myself, whatever it might be.
I never ever forget this scene. It was genius. I would watch it over and over - not the beating part 😭 but every time I hear Ode to Joy I picture him melting into a sea of stars. His music is eternal and transcendent.
I've always felt so very sad that Maestro von Beethoven was never able to hear his own masterpieces. At least he may have formulated their sounds in his head, but it is nonetheless still upsetting.
Every note of his masterpiece was seen by him. He had the talent to sense the moments that were implied by his unique disposition. He saw and heard much better than most of us hope to dream.
Depuis l'âge de 8 ans où j'ai découvert le premier mouvement de sa 5e symphonie j'adore ce compositeur. J'en ai aujourd'hui 54 et je ne connais pas toute son œuvre tellement elle est vaste. Je découvre parfois dans ses sonates ou symphonies des petits détails dont je n'avais pas conscience lors des précédentes écoutes. Un Grand Homme, un Génie pour l'humanité.
That scene always Made me get in deep emotions... Beethoven's father wanted to Made fortune with his Prodigy,frustrated because he never had the succes that Mozart had,someone's said that he provoqued his deafness with injuries in Ludwig's head,he ran away from him,he only foud relief in the calm of that lagoon's water,in the lonelyness he became part of the universe as the image in the movie
Great art.. beautiful direction by Bernard Rose (this is a movie of great musical scenes largely interspersed with a mundane script), the music of Beethoven near its zenith, great cinematography, and last but not least, the conducting by Sir George Solti one of the truly greatest interpreters of Beethoven symphonies that ever lived. That scene alone is worth the movie.
it's how to say it... owesome that someone like him(Betowen) gave to men's souls these feelings by his music when was defenetly deaf. He is a wonderful musician and man and i say "is" and not "was" becouse these men never die.
@lennhart Yes! I have never sever seen such a perfect marriage of cinematography to emotion ever!I And more than that the deep understanding at a soul level, between abuse and creativity..the need of the soul to create in lieu of such unspeakable abuse... conducting while concurrently flashing back! Down to the very marrow. When I first watched it the running for dear life, reaching the pond and then literally lifted into the stars as the choral breaks out, Nothing! Nothing! compares!
Just found out that if you understand the lyrics to this part of ode to joy, it’s amazing how this part of the song fits so well into the scene. Bernard Rose knows how to put all of the maestro’s music perfectly into each scene of the movie conveying deep into psyche of Beethoven.
Genius!! just when you thought it couldn't get better!! The beauty of Beethoven's best work!! The genius of Friedrich Schiller's words!! And the artistry of Bernard Rose's scenes!! A very inspirational clip - for me it made me think of a lot of things in a different way! Just check 2:43 to 3:56
This Movie shows young Beethoven lying down the water with seemingly twinkling stars beside him, shows that Beethoven himself is one of the stars out there and would never dwindle to disappear
It will always baffle and astound me that most people (the ones I know, anyway) remember Beethoven for "the 5th" Symphony but, to me, Ode to Joy {the 9th}, will always be synonymous to Beethoven. At his best. And, his voluminous musical scores/compositions, his heart/soul, his legacy, etc.
This is well said. We must all do that which we can do well. Not like Salieri trying to imitate / outdo Mozart out of envy, as in ‘Amadeus.’ Most of us will live & die in obscurity, affecting only the lives of our immediate loved ones. A very few will be remembered for all time. May all that we do be decent & honorable.
"Amadeus" did Salieri dirty though. He was the greatest teacher of his time, and have great relationship with Mozart that his descendant learn from him along with other famous composers and their descendant. That is how big his impact back then, and to be honest, the rumour and conspiracy about he is the reason of Mozart's death is no more than conspiracy and gossip with no ground whatsoever. And the irony is that not only this rumour drag his good name and honour to the mud, but also his family. All for the love of gossip. Amadeus has great actors, accurate period based props;attire;hair;and makeup, and good potrayal of Mozart, but the characterization on Salieri is terrible, no offense. It did not reflect on the actor, as he is a good actor, obviously. Just how they choose to write Salieri and dramaticized the said rumour all for drama. Just like any "orchestra" love story movies and shows with dramaticized conductors and soloist all for drama.
@@vlakz3308 Amadeus is based on legend concerning Salieri… also how is the script awful? It has incredibly memorable and fun lines that portray Mozart’s genius in all respects.
@@randomusernamedandrew7663 I suggest on reading real history, especially classical music history. I won't write a summary of it, just that Salieri and Mozart have a good relationship. The movie can be a good Alternate Universe historical "themed" movie, but must not taken seriously. The script is good, for the conversations between character and characterization, I admit that. Especially the bit when the movie shows how Mozart as he is, joyful, slightly naive in regards the cruelty of world, adorable petulant manners, and geniusity that he did not see as something great but just a part of him. Just one must remember that the reality behind this movie, must not taken with a grain of salt. There is a huge difference between autobiography and historical themed movies.
@@vlakz3308 And once again, the movie never claims to be a history book, it’s a story based on legend which still tells an amazing story with historical basis.
@@randomusernamedandrew7663 Again, hence why I said it is a good movie altogether (good props, accuracy in regards costume and hair and makeup, acting, script, etc) , if we put aside that it is not an actual event and more an alternate universe or story inspired by real character. The thing is, many people take it seriously, and blame Salieri and his family for it. I think it will not harm to film Amadeus as it is without some dramaticized characterization on Salieri's part. It is quite a waste, as he can be a cool mentor character more than rival, as it should be. It is hard to find good adaptation of real life character. It will be better to use fictional character with inspired by some real life character than use real life character but totally did them dirty. Movie as popular and big as Amadeus viewed by big audience internationally, and not everyone know what really happened back then and can differentiate which fiction vs real. I did not accuse you nor the movie itself for "bad script" or "awful movie", as it is in whole, a very fun and good quality movie, if we put aside the fact that it is fiction, and thus we must know that not everything in the movie reflect to the reality. That's all I can say honestly. This turns out to be horribly repetitive. Just read all of my comments.
This scene and the opening of the creation sequence in The Tree of Life, with the music, the cosmic imagery, the surrealism, the human set against the universe like that - both made me cry simply because they were so beautiful.
The only words that can ever begin to describe Beethoven are genius and phenom. If you don't get chills when you blast this composition then you have no soul
For those who wondered: Beethoven's birthday is Dec. 16 -- the same as Jane Austen, me and millions of others. But Ludwig underwent torment from his painful childhood, his father, his deafness, and above all, he wanted deeply to connect with beauty, and his marvelous mind.. He succeeded! He gave us all timeless beauty.
I just realized who Gary Oldman reminds me of here: Patrick Magee, the intellectual in A CLOCKWORK ORANGE! "What did Beethoven do after he died? He decomposed!"--George Carlin
@mindstormsabrewin "I still take so much inspiration from the artists that have graced our lives" I'm with you there. And we all can be the change you wish to see in the world :-). The smallest things still matter. Being nice to kids, inspiring to subordinates, etc. "You can do anything you want to" isn't literally right, but is a nice metaphor for the amazing little things we really can do.
@LostPevensie he was writting what he felt...nothing more...nothing less...whats hard to wrap my head around is that he wrote this and couldnt hear....he knew what he wanted it to sound like and wrote it
Read the Ode to Joy by... Excuse the spelling, Fredrich Schilling. If you Google the poem from Beethoven's 9th you should be able to find it. It's truly amazing
Good question. My thoughts (& I’m not a psychologist) Alex was a psychopath who got off on Beethoven (& Singin’ In The Rain) Psychopathy seems to have diff causes; abuse & neglect seem to factor into it. Ironically, Gary Oldman played a corrupt DEA cop who got off on Beethoven in another movie, Leon The Professional. It’s distressing that what inspires some people to glorious emotion triggers other people to wicked crimes; as I see it, that’s the fault of the person, not the music
One wishes that all victims of violence, wherever they are in the world, could lose themselves in this wonder music and escape their oppressors the way Beethoven eluded his drunken father.
ode to joy, song for european union. very fit. escaping from opression, connecting oneself to nature, to humanity and above all, to the universe. mozart, more happy music as opposed to beetoven. different era, different representation of mankind. cannot be compared.
@blakey1664 Freude schöner götterfunken Tochter aus Elysium Wir betreten feuertrunken Himmlische dein Heiligtum Deine zauber binden wieder Was die mode streng geteilt Alle menschen werden bruder Wo dein sanfter flügel weilt. I agree, it is quite amazing!
@mindstormsabrewin "ANYTHING is possible" But it's NOT very likely :-) In my experience I mostly hear this "anything is possible" from people who can't even begin to grasp the things *I* can do, and there are literally a butt load of things I would like to be able to do and I can't.That's the fun of being only borderline gifted: You can at once marvel at the wonders of the true genius, and laugh at the pitiful attempts of the average to enjoy them without feeling alienated.
