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@@alain4037 Only if the victim has enough time, money and energy to get into legal battles with the perpetrator. For things like claiming damages, perjury and whatnot you can come up with. RU-vid seems to side with the one that brings them the most money (and does not really have much to do with DMCA anyways its between the parties that YT just mediates). So no practical penalty apart from PR hit
Yea but what if the claimer does not have a channel? I mean when someone CC's a video the channel gets a strike and after 3 they lose their channel but they do not get charged with a crime or penalty so its hard to really go after the false claimers. If its a bigger channel they could try to sue but it would cost a lot to do and it would be a tough fight
What's really sad, those 20 videos had nothing about opinions on the game, they were all videos of the best players in action. The strikes were not a punishment, they were because a Community Manager was vindictive. Thank you for sharing your opinion on this Darth, great job on D4, keep up the amazing work!
@@nickh4354 i mean blizzard is used to it from way before this supercell company. makes sense! even when the sexual allegations on interns where out they didnt budge.
Yup. You did it to yourselves Murica. The moment you gave companies the same rights as actual persons, and invented oxymorons like 'intellectual property" (next up 'Thought Crime' lol!), you opened the doors and now you reap what you sow. At the end of the day, it's just about money and one Capitalist trying to out-Capitalise another. And the rules will always favour the larger parasites with more money. Game over man, game over.
What's new is that supercell of all corporates is doing. It was largely considered as the most likable and responsive to community which helped the game survive and run successfully for over a decade
@@golden7296 Profitably, not successfully. The game was always trash, nobody ever had fun, and everyone that bought anything ever was just ignorant and got robbed. If you had fun with that scam wrapped in the slowest most boring tower defense ever, then I'm glad you enjoyed your first smart phone app at the age of 7.
unrelated to the content of the video, i just wanted to say how happy it makes me seeing how much you and your channel have grown. im not a long time sub, i found you from the days just before D4 dropped. but I can't think of a more deserving person of what you have achieved. i've watched you work so hard and put it so much effort and your attitude and honesty is super refreshing these days. thanks for being you DM, here's to many more years of growth and quality content.
It is wild how people with closer ties to the personalities involved easily get caught up in the personal drama and choosing sides, while not seeing the larger issue looming of punitive copyright abuse. Good on you DM for covering this and trying to recenter what's actually at issue here cuz more people should be talking about this.
It should be illegal to do that. It should not matter what size the company is...if they do this kind of shit they should face some serious consequences! This is stalking on a next level too! I can't even understand how Discord and RU-vid allowed it to happen!
They went after his Twitter as well but I didn’t have screenshots of that, but he deleted all the vods on his twitch before they got enough strikes there to delete it
I am sure he could file a civil case and sue for lost wages/revenue and then some. He would just have to shop around for a lawyer that would take the case with no upfront cost and be paid with a percentage of the settlement to prevent them from drawing out the case to drain his bank account. That would be the major hurdle in the situation.
@@samlane9732 yep this is the correct answer, absolutely has a civil case and if Google / RU-vid were better at their jobs they could also pursue a case against that company for misuse of DMCA
@@samlane9732 exactly need a class action lawsuit civil law, not criminal need someone to represent the hundreds or thousands of content creators who have been financially damaged by this behavior sue the shit out of them to discourage this horribly anti-consumer behavior actually has very little to do with youtube content creators vs the companies abusing yt's copywright system and to the point that "gameplay is technically copywright infringement" is obviously wrong need a case to set a precedent that "ya it's YOUR game, but someone is playing it and it's THEIR performance and therefor not protected" something like that
Copyright law needs to be amended to protect people that aren't stealing from malicious abusers of it. I don't know what the ideal version of it would be, but at the very least it should either [prevent removal of lawful materials without proper authoritative investigation] or [fast-track disputes so videos are restored and monetized rapidly]. False DMCA claims need to be illegal as well.
@@ticklord You're right - the problem is RU-vid 100%. They created a biased and easily abused system for the sake of hiring fewer people to properly manage DMCA complaints. The only way to fix that is to update the law.
@@1980chardison Yeah, the public can use it, but it is not owned by the public. It is owned by a company which means there's rules and laws that you have to follow. Doesn't mean you get on there and say whatever you want when you want. That's my point.
@@forgottenone9879 they still have to abide by the constitution hence they cant by that reasoning stop someone from their freedom of speech, and the ability to voice their oppinions about a game
Thank you for bringing this to people's attention. I've never heard of this myself personally from this particular company..I've actually played Clash Royale and the like made by them..I've been quit years ago but I will definitely go out of my way to not support them any longer by playing any of their games. Forwarding this to all my friends as well. We need to normalize calling out every company that does slimy stuff like this.
Supercell has always been a SHADY company. The fact they are viewed as mainstream is such a weird concept to me. I worked for them remotely early on and I am shocked they are where they are now.
The problem is that the copyright strike favors the companies, as the strike is automated and there is no prior human verification. There should always be human verification and companies abusing it should be punished.
Right! And while that would mean spending additional dollars for them, it would mean the RU-vid has more of a say in keeping popular content active on the platform. More eyes=more views=more money for everyone!
Current US law forces youtube to take down claimed videos first and ask questions about that later. Quite literally, iirc. Human verification does not help either, effectivly that human verification must somehow determine if video complies to fair use, for example, to determine if claim was in fact legit. But only court can do that. Channel deletion must be absolutely verified with human and should not be automated tho. But the main problem here is the copyright law itself.
@sinner5452 it's not that it's too hard to have human reviewers, it's that it is too expensive. By this point, they know that nobody is going to outright stop using RU-vid forever just because their favorite creator got banned unfairly, so why would they care enough to invest that kind of money?
need a class action lawsuit civil law, not criminal need someone to represent the hundreds or thousands of content creators who have been financially damaged by this behavior sue the shit out of them to discourage this horribly anti-consumer behavior actually has very little to do with youtube content creators vs the companies abusing yt's copywright system
@@TheDramaticDream That's according to you, that's not an actual fact, so just because you think RU-vid allows it, which they don't, it doesn't make it right. I mean let's be real here, of course there are a lot of these cases that have gone unpunished, of course, that doesn't mean that they don't give a shit, you assume quite a bit my man.
@@chronotrigger2000 Right? RU-vid processes literally millions (over 4 million as of 2021, pretty sure number's gone up) of content ID claims every single day. Just because these things happen, doesn't mean RU-vid wants them to happen. The problem stems from one major factor: People can use bots/AI to copyright strike videos, but RU-vid can't use bots/AI to verify if these claims are correct. The only way to be accurate, is for real human beings to manually check them. So they are WILDLY outgunned. What should happen, is RU-vid should limit the number of copyright claims a given company is allowed to make in a single day. That does have some potential legal ramifications, though. But if handled correctly, it's their best option.
@@chronotrigger2000 I mean... you literally said it yourself. There are many unpunished instances of copyright abuse. Yt is a very big company, they've had plenty money and time to solve the copyright problems, if they really cared. Of course the companies abusing it are at fault, but the system itself is flawed.. and I feel like you can't really deny that yt should at least make some changes
There is a game called KOF: Allstar. Out for 6 years and is now closing. One of the share holders (Netmarble) talked crap about the game before they announced the end of the game. So naturally the community started talking crap to him. He went around and copywrite strike each one of the videos and literally said "don't talk hate to me" the abuse that is happening right now is massive.
Thanks for bringing attention to this, and to the company that wants to make sure myself and many others will never touch their PoS game. Trash game company deserves everything coming to them now.
There are two issues 1. Copyright infingement bullying cancelling channels for exposing point 2. 2. The team memeber was removed and according to supercell rules all have to agree. That did not happen, thus that team needs to be DQ from thiet last event. But there is favouritism behind the scenes.
CNN is going nuts about this over debates, doesn't want anyone to stream it. Should be streamed freely everywhere because this is important to all Americans
If by "everywhere" you mean CNN. I guess so. There have been multiple examples from inside RU-vid and big YT channels saying they are going to copyright strike anyone who streams it, indicating it will not in fact be "shown everywhere" don't be a 🤡
@kpNov23 it's a long story but CNN is telling ppl on RU-vid that they can't do live commentary on the debate, which historically has always fallen under fair use. They are doing the same thing fox did.
The whole thing of people discussing things that ultimately doesn't matter, where they are not even part of the "population" involved or that understands it (for example being a RU-vid creator who understands that copyright strike abuse is your livelihood gone overnight), can be seen in so many political discussions. People like to have an opinion on things they don't understand, and when you are one of the affected people it really gets irritating that you become the subject of that discussion to say the least.
If a third party can copy right strike a private citizens personal content/speech then the ONLY answer is to make paid advertisements/sponsorships a federal crime. No one should be allowed to pay another person/company to publicly deceive and/or manipulate the publics opinion regarding anything to do with consumerism.
Supercell used to be known for being super friendly to creators and having great relationships with their players, and being open to criticism. It's just sad to see that all be thrown at the window as they make their once beloved games into unplayable pay to win experiences.
As a Finnish person this really makes me ashamed of Supercell ruining the good Finnish identity of clean IT and good business ethic I don't even consume their products but it is a major step down on our culture of major IT education and work Häpeäis tommosta
what doesn't seem to be, being bought up is that if the channel is banned he can't just go 'oh well that sucks ill start again', no he wouldn't be allowed to start a new channel, his opportunity to utilise RU-vid for his job is forever gone. a company who doesn't employ him shouldn't be able to do what is in essence is firing him.
The copyright strikes regarding Japan and the nature of that is that Japan has no fair use laws for transformative content when it comes to copyrighted material. It doesn't work the same or as it should for a western/US based company that adheres to fair use.
As just a common pleb, this is unbelievable that Google/RU-vid would put up with this! Wished there was a list of the game companies doing this so I and others can avoid them?
Things like these are so f'in scary. Money/ company making people disappear. Democracy means, being able to voice your opinion and that basic right is denied. Scary, terrible.
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that every game developer/publisher can take down videos/streams containing footage of their product because of copyright infringement. The thing is that these companies benefit from videos/streams so they tolerate them, but there is no clear legal situation since no one went to court yet. So yes, streamers/youtubers live with risk. I remember that Atlus took down streams when they showed endgame footage of Persona 5 in 2017. Atlus released guidelines that they would do that beforehand. The issue here is that, from my understanding, only one specific person was targeted which can not be legally allowed.
"You will own nothing and be happy..." And then "You will not have the right to give your opinion on any subject on the internet and you will be happy"
I’m pretty sure the Microtransaction in ur name should be a dead giveaway about ur history in mobile gaming 😂 oh and I loved ur “how bad is it” vids where u dunk on diff mobile games lol
This is the reason I don't play mobile games. Any company that is willing use FOMO to monetize their games is scum by definition in my book. Doing copyright strikes on RU-vidrs who disagree/make negative comments about their game is just par for the course for these shitty companies.
Lost profits damages are a type of compensation for the loss of net income a business experiences due to the actions of a defendant. To calculate lost profits damages, a plaintiff's business compares the amount it could have reasonably earned during a relevant period to the amount it actually earned. The calculation should only include lost profits caused by the defendant and should consider the following factors:
I use to watch "Brandon likes moves" since it came out. But he got a copyright strike over a year ago, and he never figured out why, and it ended up shutting him down for over a year now. And he showed how so many other RU-vid videos showed WAY worse, by far, than him.
If someone copyright strikes you, the proof is on you instead of them, for some reason. RU-vid favours everyone but their own creators. And when they do favour their content creators its usually in allowing them to abuse the copright system to destroy small creators. Theres people abusing the copyright system basically everyday.
Adam from time 2 clash was awesome for clash esports There was some bs but not worthy of a total ban or having his channel shut down. Eric is a hero for standing up to the machine.
They do this A LOT on instagram. I leave honest bad reviews of a business sometimes and it will be removed with the reason being “ it seems like you’re posting this just for likes” like wtf?????
Copyright strikes are still happening because there are people in legal trying to justify to their companies why they shouldn't be in the next round of layoffs. I'm sure you can relate as a fellow person struggling to stay relevant in the YT space despite not really doing anything of value
I already naturally have a strong disdain towards the mobile gaming branch of the industry as a whole and avoid them at all costs, but seeing a company actively going out of their way doing this type of scummy bs is ridiculous i hope they get nothing but negative PR forevermore after this, they don't deserve any better
Copyright strike abused is an act of a cowardice. People have right to show their opinion about the game, and if supercell didnt like that youtuber, they will just take it personally and wipe out people channel.
The problem is that our govt is not being proactive about implementing laws and policies that would bring standard business practices that have been going for hundreds of years in line with online business platforms. They should incorporate but everyone is playing dumb and are taking advantage of loopholes to benefit their bottom line.
The whole automated, no human-intervening copyright strike process is a freaking joke on its own. People have been having issues for years, and a company as large as Google/RU-vid just can’t find a good solution smh
The way they see it is that you’re not authorized to talk or show anything from anywhere that has a copyright. Especially if you’re making money off of it. It sux and it’s been going on for the past few years now on RU-vid channels. Even if you’re not making any money off of content like “how to” that’s dumb, they see it as a self promotional use for profit that they’re not making. It ridiculous. Be careful out there.
Hearing tells that the person responsible at Supercell is the ex of one of the people they went after… how true this is I’m not sure but that would explain why it seems so vindictive
This is why you should read the ToS when first logging in to a game. Most have the 'company reserves the right to copyright any of there products that are being used elsewhere' clause. That might not be the right phrasing but most companies have something like that in there ToS
It should be an accountable thing: If a company/youtuber puts a strike against a channel… and it’s found that it’s bogus, those strikes should reverse and go towards the people issuing That being said, I literally know nothing about this, so maybe that’s not even how it works… but that’s the first thing that comes to mind to keep people accountable for their actions Or maybe the “strike” system shouldn’t even be a thing… I’m sure other people have better ideas as to how this could work compared to current
One of the main issues is that most streamers and content creators operate in a grey zone for copyright law. Posting gameplay without critiquing it is technically copyright infringement, it is just that most companies recognize that this provides more value for them than it subtracts and thus don't pursue legal action. Ironically, the opinion videos that the company dislikes are protected under fair use, they are just able to weaponize other gameplay videos on the channel to get it taken down.
it's obviously wrong need a case to set a precedent something like "ya it's gameplay of YOUR video game, but someone is playing it and it's THEIR gameplay performance and therefor unprotected" need a class action lawsuit need someone to represent the hundreds or thousands of content creators who have been financially damaged by this behavior sue the shit out of them to discourage this horribly anti-consumer behavior actually has very little to do with youtube content creators vs the companies abusing yt's copywright system
@@andrewgrow5711 Oh for sure, not defending the company's behavior, just contextualizing it. Society and technology has moved forward, and copyright law hasn't caught up.
The fact the RU-vid allows this to happen is even worse. Just to inform you of how youtube works; I made a cover of a song a few years back from a very know band. Got an email from youtube that basically said, if I don't take down the video they will shut down my channel. Then there are dozens of channels that posts videos ripped from dvds and blu-rays that keep on living without consequences. That's how hypocritical RU-vid is and have been for years.
And why is it that no one mentions it, yet its no different to CANCEL CULTURE. But hey! if you can do this to someone.....its obviously legal, and legal is the law, so why ruin your lively hood. Anyway who cares
Over the past 10 to 15 years, ALL game developers have been using youtubers and streamers as free advertisement! If any content creator does not fall in line and say nice things or drive more players to spend, spend, spend in their game, developers lose money. It's no longer about creating games that players will love and continue to play. It's about milking gamers for every penny the gamer has!
As i agree on the punishment arguments, You fail to see another aspect of it. If You generate content You choose the platform and its Your sole responsibility. If its Your income source its even more important to do due diligence on this and choose wisely. By going with YT You accept their terms and You are willingly becoming hostage of their policies and decisions and that are the consequences. No one forced people to chose YT as platform they did it on their own, same goes for accepting the risks of it.
How mobile game companies are showing how stupid they can be. Doing this will lower their amount of customers. They never learn, that power of the people will eventually win.
need some class action lawsuits plaintiff: content creators wrongly hit with copywright strikes defendent: the game companies abusing this feature on youtube actually has very little to do with youtube it's not a crime, it is however an attack on people's livelihood so it's civil law individuals generally don't have the resources to fight back but as a group they do, they will have a case, and it'll be very expensive for these companies it's simple, it has to happen to discourage this horrible behavior anti-consumer practices
Copyright law is kind of insane. The current structure incentivizes bad behavior, and there's no one to be held accountable unless you have a massive presence and are assigned a representative from RU-vid because it's mostly automated.
As long as the laws dont get the extra "If you abuse or misuse X Law; or you are trying to work around it, you get double the punishment" this shit will always happen. And make punishments dependend on the income the company or person is earning. (Percentage based)
Supercell is trash for doing it but lets be honest, by far the biggest issue here is youtube itself. The copyright strike system is absolutely horrid and there is zero effort spent by a real human to verify the validity of the copyright strike claim before a channel gets nuked. youtube should be harshly punished every time a channel is struck down with no real justification.
