5:00 Ernie called it on the spot💯here we are 2 years later and it took for LeBron to leave the east in order for the Raptors to even make it out of the east😂😂
@@doc7569 😭man what, the raptors were getting consistently swept by the cavs, if they were some unstoppable juggernaut Lebron was running, from kawhi probably wouldn’t have left
so crazy watching old takes like this. no one saw the kawhi trade coming, and lebron actually did go out west. it is dope that kenny saw the bucks potential even back then.
Raptors never recovered from Game 1. I really believe they are the better team. Lebron just straight up has their number. Hes going back to the finals again. Gotta give it up to him.
I'm a lifelong Raptors fan and this series stung most. This season was super promising for us: a good young core, two star players in Lowry and Derozan. Nevertheless in the end of the day we played who is, in my opinion, the greatest basketball player of our generation. Am I worried about Celtics? 76ers? Pacers? Not really. I think we're on par with a fully healthy Celtics. I'd be interested to see where the Raptors go from here, if It'd be up to me I'd make one or two moves: Ibaka and either Lowry or Derozan on the move. To be honest, I don't mind keeping both Lowry and DeRozan, but it's kind of at a point where their mental fragility is weighing heavily on the team. In the end of the day, our team isn't that bad! LeBron is just LeBron.
I don’t think he’ll be signing with Toronto, big stars that have the option of many teams would rather stay in their own country then move up to Canada
Tupac Shakur Kobe's defense was better. Kobe could score better. LeBron rebounds and assists better because he's bigger. He's power forward size. Kobe and LeBron is a legit argument.
Kobe couldn't score better than LeBron. Since LeBron developed his jump shot in his Heat years his scoring is at another level and his shooting numbers and ability to score from everywhere is better than Kobe's. The numbers don't lie
Tim McGrath no Lebron scoring is efficient, kobe is the better scorer between him and Lebron, you must never got to watch kobe play through majority of his career, Lebron is not the scorer kobe is, kobe played 20 years and really only played 16 something seasons of actual basketball, last 3 years full of injury and his first year he barely played yet he still had 33k points, if kobe never got hurt he had a legit chance to catch Kareem
I would say as a player, Lebron is a better rebounder than Kobe because of his size, but kobe was a good rebounder for a sg. They both have the ability to pass the ball, but they also have a different approach to the game. lebron is looking to pass very often, while kobe is looking to score. they both have a high iq. The question should be is which style of play leads to more championships, because kobe and MJ have the same type of approach and Lebron has a different do it all approach. A player like simmons has that style, the bucks tried that style with greek freak at times, but im not sure the style is as effective as it always puts your pg out of position. This years finals may help to answer that question
Im here for Charles Barkley face expression and Charles dismissing the Bucks..fast forward Bucks won the title in 2021 and have the best player on the planet in Giannis..
Cavs controlled the pace of the whole series. When you watch Pacers playing cavs, you feel like 5 points are big deposit. You watch this series, you just chill.
Thank you shaq for getting the conversation back on track. Kenny pointing the conversation to bron vs jordan when this is about the game that just ended. Coming from a bron fab the comparisons are definitely played out. Just watch the man be great.
When Kenny turn comes : “ I could say a whole bunch of stuff for a long time but I’m not gonna say anything... instead, I’ll pass it back to Shaq and chuck since that’s who people watch for” 😂😂
Raider Nation101 because the organization proili feels there’s to much Talent there for him not Win A Game . Just like Scott Brooks a few years ago with Oklahoma
Greatest player ever lived Lebron James I'm glad I got to see him play also seen mike and kobe in person at the united center but Lebron exceeded expectations
5 years later... Shaq and Kenny got it right about Boston, and shoutout Kenny for seeing Bucks' potential. What none of these guys probably foresaw was that Bron would be back to the Conference Finals... in the West!
It is. Connors won more championships. You can also say that if Sampras and Agassi were in their prime Federer wouldn’t have won as many championships.
At this point there is no argument. 20 majors, no one is close. Connors had more titles, but a lot of those are tiny little tournaments that don't exist anymore. Federer really has the most meaningful titles. And Federer is just adding to his legacy with ridiculous, unheard of longevity. I do think you need to separate the classic players from the modern players, because tennis with wooden racquets is basically a different sport. Rod Laver is the GOAT of the classic era, Federer is the GOAT of the modern era. If you look at the stats, Nadal is not really close. Nadal never really dominated an era the way Federer did. He was #2 in the Federer era and #2 in the Djokovic era, and recently Federer seems to have figured him out, beating him the last 5 times in a row, although the one stat Nadal will always hold over Federer is the h2h. But the mountain of other stats favor Federer. And just with the eyeball test, it's always been clear to me that Federer plays the game more perfectly than anyone ever has. Don't need stats to see that.
People think Golden State is the team to beat. Every coach every player is aiming to take LeBron down. why do you think Golden State got KD? Why do you think KD chose golden state? LeBron is the most feared player of all time
Chuck was right, during game one, if you hear the commentators they kept hyping the Raptors up. "we're not scared of you" "no easy lay ups against us" "we're on the same level" ... to the point where it is almost irritating and when the cavs were coming back in the late 3rd, all of the credit was still on the raptors. jeez, sometimes you have to let 4 games before you talk too much
Max kellerman,Chuck,chris mannix,Chris Carter,Rob Parker,Brendan Haywoord,Guy in the show called “Get up” . This are the analysts I remember who said Raptors in 5/6
Lebron was running his own system in which he was able to beat most teams at this time who were still running sets. Now Luka is doing the same thing along with every other nba team.
R hey might as well, that's how Lebron thinks. All I'm saying is that this team is that one piece that's missing. To be able to beat a Lebron , you need someone to cancel him out on the other end.
Humphrey Humphrey well no , they did beat him without KD and could beat him without KD. They have guys that could counter on the other end offensively. The best example would be the Spurs, great all around team , but had that one guy (Kawai) that could slow him down.
Putting Kobe over bron is inexcusable imo. Obviously kobe was a beast, everyone in even a top 25 all time is going to be a great player. But Lebron is in that upper echelon
lebron is WAY better than kobe, he dont have that straight scoring/killer mentality/instinct, but lebron is better than kobe in every way and MORE efficient. i love kobe, but even i have to admit it, kobe isnt even in the goat convo anymore if you noticed, its just all MJ and lebron now
Surprised at Kenny for bringing up that question about MJ and Lebron. Proud of Chuck and Shaq for shooting it down. I hate when people compare others when they played in two different eras.
Shaq is really starting to provide some content and proper analysis. For years he used to just babble rhetoric, cliches or just clown around. Fair play big man.
You mean derozan went west and Kawhi and Danny Green and Marc came to the raptors Lebron was not gonna swept kawhi Im not saying he was not gonna win but he aint Derozan
Chuck was delusional, so was everyone else who thought the cavs did not have a psychological hold on the raptors. One of the easiest series ever for the cavs, and now everyone saying how great they are. People are funny 😂
LeBron lost his Scottie Pippen which is Kyrie Irving, and got past the 1st Round & 2nd Round..... & no one says nothing, you Jordan fans can't keep hiding stuff like this
Sam M He's in the East homie... The Bulls woulda went 6 games in the 2nd round... & They woulda faced HOF's the WHOLE WAY... This era is watered down...
What Ernie said was true and now tgat Lebron is in the west tge Raptors have the best chance for tge finals. Ernie is keep pun it real. But props to Charles for his shout out to Ovechkin! Love to see athletes giving support to other athletes regardless of sport
Charlie Brown Barkley Said " 😂THE RAPTORS WILL BE IN THE WHAT? THE FINALS"!! 😎 I say " They should be able to get a great discount on Tickets to The FINALS as a group rate" 😂😂😂😂 LOL
This only shows how great derrick rose was. Faced the "Big 3" in his third year with a bunch of role players and managed to get a win in the ecf. Here you see a Raptors team with supposedly 2 star players and they can't even beat a lebron team with lebron basically doing everything.
Love played like a star, very efficient. LeBron was far to be completely alone out there. Still, to win against this pathetic team means nothing. Even if the raptors stole a game or two, who cares, they are pathetic.
Bisayan_Tek did you even watch the games Lebron got so much help from his teammates this series if his teammates played like they did in the pacer series Toronto would have won
Indy was instrumental. They shaped up the Cavs. Now Boston is a totally different animal and will without a doubt be the toughest opponent so far for LBJ and company but I really think Roziers over confidence can be bad for him and his teammates. I mean u are a fantastic player but calling for Bron could be bad for your health so young man as good as u are be careful what u wish for cause u might get it
time to get rid of either lowry or derozan, maybe time to to get rid of both.but the thing is that the players they’re surrounded by aren’t seasoned vets, and basically unknowns.they need a iggy, livingston, ariza, rondo, danny green, players who are battle tested vets.not random rookies like siakam however you spell his name, and though vanvleet is solid they really should’ve kept corey joseph because of what he brings to both ends of the floor. but it all boils down to the fact that derozan and lowry aren’t the type of players to carry a team over the hump
TAVVOOS I dont think they're that weak per say, they just unfortunately keep running up against LeBron, who owns the East. They won 59 games so they beat alot of Western Conference teams to get that record too.
Can't lbj just be great without being compared to mj. mj is the goat, lbj will never be better than him. Mj faced better competition in the east whereas lbj is just facing clowns in the east to walk to the the finals. Not to mention mj never let a finals series go to 7 games.
marcos torres+ Dennis rodman(Best defender ever) and steve kerr(all time great shooter) Add that with scottie pippen and great role players he had quite a bit of help🤷
What about the 1st threepeat? Maybe Horace grant....bjArmstrong? The amount of talent they surrounded MJ with pales in comparison to having what Lebron played with. And Kerr isn't in the hall.
