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This four part course provides a working foundation in the core concepts of Marxian economic theory -- necessary and surplus labor, labor power, surplus value, exploitation, capital accumulation, distributions of the surplus, capitalist crises, and the differences between capitalist and other class structures. In addition, these core concepts will be systematically used to understand current social problems (including political and cultural as well as economic problems). The goal is to enable students to apply Marxian economics in their own efforts to analyze society and to strategize politically today.
This course was taught in the Spring of 2009 at the Brecht Forum in New York, NY.
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@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609
@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609 10 лет назад
Dayum, I'm addicted to this dude's talks!
@RichardDWolff
@RichardDWolff 7 лет назад
Thanks glad you like them
@StephenSchleis
@StephenSchleis 6 лет назад
Me too!
@vojtasks
@vojtasks 5 лет назад
Try Bohm-Bawerk, Hayek, Mises and Menger. These completely destroyed Marx...
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 4 года назад
@@vojtasks Except no, they did not.
@leftylaura9164
@leftylaura9164 3 года назад
@@vojtasks lol mises got destroyed by Lange and had to change up his whole theory
@PatSprayNativeLife
@PatSprayNativeLife 8 лет назад
I studied Marxian theory in the late 1980s under Dr. Michael Perelman at CSU-C. The library at CSU-C has a 1st edition of Capital (I & II)! It did me no favors in academia, however. I was nominated for the Smale Award but was only awarded "runner up" solely BECAUSE my models incorporated Marxian thought. The laugh is on my opponents though. My economic models have accurately forecast every downturn in US macro-economics since 1990.
@Deathkill06
@Deathkill06 8 лет назад
I've been taking notes and studying these online courses Professor Wolff has. I would really like to major in economics for a PhD along with History, hoping I'll be able to take classes on Marxian economics but I know it's pretty rare.
@PatSprayNativeLife
@PatSprayNativeLife 8 лет назад
+Deathkill06 History as well as sociology provide a strong foundation for economics. I would strongly suggest contacting: www.csuchico.edu/econ/faculty/perelman.shtml for advice in finding an academic program in the critical discussion of capitalist economics
@paulgorman2276
@paulgorman2276 5 лет назад
How soon do your models say the inevitable crash is coming? And how deep will it cut?
@kspfan001
@kspfan001 5 лет назад
I took History at UMASS Amherst and had the pleasure of getting to take Marxian Econ with Dr. Wolff there years ago. While not becoming an academic, I've kept with reading, thinking, and talking about Marxian Economics with the academics around it. I'd be really interested in seeing some of your work if you have a link or something.
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 4 года назад
@@PatSprayNativeLife Well yeah. you may not like Marx's recommendations or desires, but you cannot fault his analysis.
@pocardus2075
@pocardus2075 8 лет назад
thank you so much for releasing this without a pricetag.
@deansmith5559
@deansmith5559 7 лет назад
A true Marxian
@snoopy_poopy69
@snoopy_poopy69 4 года назад
@@tomaston1220 he's not a yale professor
@snoopy_poopy69
@snoopy_poopy69 4 года назад
Tom Aston he taught at yale while he was getting his phd 90% of people teach at the same school while they’re getting their phd
@connorcriss
@connorcriss 4 года назад
Tom Aston He’s a professor at University of Massachusetts Amherst. He got his degree at Yale.
@connorcriss
@connorcriss 4 года назад
Tom Aston This whole video is the antithesis to that. The fact that information is hidden behind a paywall and some people are too poor to access it is absolutely a fault of capitalism.
@tomitstube
@tomitstube 7 лет назад
interesting, marxism isn't taught in the american education system but there seems to be no shortage of anti-marxism experts... i remember doing a number of papers in college challenging my professors in their pro-capitalist, pro-american, and pro-christianity teachings, they never failed to give me a bad mark in doing so. american education is a capitalist propaganda machine.
@macroaggression8974
@macroaggression8974 6 лет назад
tomitstube I have heard a great many people criticise the "horrors of Marx". I have yet to meet a single individual who does this after having read Marx.
@kspfan001
@kspfan001 5 лет назад
You're correct. Most of what is taught in Economics departments in the US is ideology with some equations to add the illusion of being scientific & empirical to it. Over a decade ago, I decided to take Marxian Economics while I was attending UMASS Amherst for an elective. I was by no means a Marxist or anything at the time, I just thought that since I'd had taken a bunch of traditional econ courses and they constantly trash on Marx, that it would only be fair to go see what Marx was actually talking about. I had the great fortune of having Dr. Wolff as the professor and he really opened my eyes about Marx. I quickly realized that there wasn't a good reason for not teaching Marx alongside Smith & other classical economists, and that those who said otherwise were doing so out of an ideological dogmatism and not for valid academic reasons. Marxian economists were pointing out major issues and problems in out socioeconomic system a decade ago (while being ignored or mocked), and they are now getting the last laugh as more and more people move to left in the US in agreement.
@vojtasks
@vojtasks 5 лет назад
@@macroaggression8974 what? Marxian economics is pile of nonsesne. Is has been disproven by Carl Menger and Bohm-Bawerk in 1880ies. For god sake. Whole labour theory of value and saying there should be no market for capital are complete idiocies. NOt to mention this Wolff crazy guy saying "your mother is not on the market when she makes a family dinner" ooh good...
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 4 года назад
@@vojtasks except this is not true. wanna try?
@tomcotter4299
@tomcotter4299 4 года назад
Don't worry, I can attest firsthand, the Marxists that run the UMass Economics department do the exact same thing if you dare challenge their precious beliefs through an assignment.
@raggledaggle721
@raggledaggle721 9 лет назад
"Communism is the positive abolition of private property, of human self-alienation, and thus the real appropriation of human nature through and for man. It is, therefore, the return of man himself as a social, i.e., really human being, a complete and conscious return which assimilates all the wealth of previous development. Communism as a fully developed naturalism is humanism and as a fully developed humanism is naturalism. It is the definitive resolution of the antagonism between man and nature, and between man and man. It is the true solution of the conflict between existence and essence, between objectification and self-affirmation, between freedom and necessity, between individual and species. It is the solution of the riddle of history and knows itself to be this solution."
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
This isn't Marxism. Thats why he said Marxian, it is the economic political economy discipline, so it like Marx's works on political economy mainly analysis capitalism. "Marxian economics-particularly in academia-is distinguished from Marxism as a political ideology, as well as from the normative aspects of Marxist thought: this reflects the view that Marx's original approach to understanding economics and economic development is intellectually independent from his own advocacy of revolutionary socialism. Marxian economists do not lean entirely upon the works of Marx and other widely known Marxists, but draw from a range of Marxist and non-Marxist sources.
@nrspinelli
@nrspinelli 4 месяца назад
what? if marx said it, it's marxism...@@whatabouttheearth
@vee1425
@vee1425 8 лет назад
Brilliant set of lectures! Wonderful teacher, very animated (sight and sound) and full of life. Needs to hit more of the mainstream. Did not know about this gentleman. THANK YOU!!
@someonewhoexist
@someonewhoexist 4 года назад
WOW, i can't belive how many schools this guy went to that are well cream of the crop.and his points hit home hard, I came into Atheism and Marxism at Age 12 one day i had lunch when i went to a paid catholic school and one day i got Toast and some drink for lunch and i went to them and said "hey, i think we should get more food than this,we pay for our uniforms and everything. there should be enough money to give us food" and i was just basically shuu'd away. i then Begged my parent's to go to public school. defund wall street if we can bail out fucking Rich traders and bankers/s we can bail out the student's,pay teachers and have healthcare. and so on. sorry i'm terrible at english but i would say atleast my heart is in the right place.
@noamchomsky4972
@noamchomsky4972 7 лет назад
"It's like asking what is heavier, Monday or Friday?" this made me laugh
@michelle-jn7ul
@michelle-jn7ul 7 лет назад
I really wish the audio was cleaned up on this. I share it all the time to friends and people who I think are listening, but the audio makes it harder to pay attention.
@democracyatwrk
@democracyatwrk 7 лет назад
Thanks for the feedback +michelle, English subtitles have recently been provided for this video by a volunteer. Hope this helps! Please feel free to pass it forward.
@BrownusGirl
@BrownusGirl 12 лет назад
Dr Wolf - appreciate you posting these lectures. As you point out, there's a severe paucity of formal Marxist education and you are helping this student in autodidactic efforts to correct this deficiency. Thanks!
@michaely4933
@michaely4933 7 лет назад
Legendary series, excellent lecture sir.
@karthikkrishnamoorthy670
@karthikkrishnamoorthy670 4 года назад
Your teachings are gold.. they stick to my mind and makes me see the truth and helps me reason out everything that is going on in the name of capitalism.. Thank you very much for introducing marxism economics..
@stephaniesunshine8310
@stephaniesunshine8310 10 лет назад
Is there are reading list for this course? I'd really like to be able to do the readings along with the lecture series.
@donkiddick08
@donkiddick08 10 лет назад
go to rdwolff.com. under online classes, you will find this and other videos. beneath these are suggested readings.
@duplessey-monicwalker5819
@duplessey-monicwalker5819 7 лет назад
You are inspirational!!! Thank you, I am currently in Masters Program at Hunter College for Education and truly appreciate your candid true representations! Thank you!!!
@jackwheeler27
@jackwheeler27 12 лет назад
Thanks for making videos like these; they really are important. How can society pass judgement on something it doesn't understand? And, like you said, Marx simply provides a viewpoint from which to view capitalism. Thanks for helping me become educated.
@apubanerjee2037
@apubanerjee2037 4 года назад
Excellent sir..
@sarasatebwv
@sarasatebwv 6 лет назад
Prof. Wolff, could you upload the complete lecture, please? Thank you!
@sarasatebwv
@sarasatebwv 6 лет назад
Plus the complete versions of this series of lectures on Marxist theory... please. Thank you so much!
@MarkoKraguljac
@MarkoKraguljac 13 лет назад
Bliss to listen to.
@theRealJohnWayneGacy
@theRealJohnWayneGacy Год назад
I know you care about putting out quality educational content and it is because of this that I let you know - Your recording device may have been recording you, but you did not use that recording for this upload. If you still have the original recording I would be happy to show you how to transpose it.
@Aaron3ous
@Aaron3ous 11 лет назад
Considering that Marxism is a criticism of capitalism, not an outline for a future, communist society, I'd really love to hear more about how it was put into practice in those two countries. And then, after that, maybe you can explain to me how Roger Ebert's review of Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo resulted in the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
This isn't Marxism. "Marxian economics-particularly in academia-is distinguished from Marxism as a political ideology, as well as from the normative aspects of Marxist thought: this reflects the view that Marx's original approach to understanding economics and economic development is intellectually independent from his own advocacy of revolutionary socialism. Marxian economists do not lean entirely upon the works of Marx and other widely known Marxists, but draw from a range of Marxist and non-Marxist sources.
@parthoprotimganguly2125
@parthoprotimganguly2125 Год назад
Very very good and nice.
@KarlBonner1982
@KarlBonner1982 10 лет назад
It's refreshing to see Marx approached, and approached in the more rigorous way (Das Kapital as opposed to the Communist Manifesto). I'm a center-left progressive who has taken up an interest in Marxian crisis theory. I've come to the conclusion that a "full employment profit squeeze" is might be a good way to reduce inequality. If the next Fed chair is a dove and keeps the labor markets tight, Marxian theory suggests it might push up wages and squeeze excessive profits out of the economy.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
Because it's Marxian economics, not history or philosophy reviewing Marx, or Marxism (the political ideologies).
@leokovmol
@leokovmol 4 года назад
Wasn't Marx' dissertation on Democritus and Epicurus (which was already showing the development of his materialistic philosophy)? Epictetus, on the other hand, was a stoic philosopher and to my knowledge didn't have as much influence on Marx
@protestfolk
@protestfolk 10 лет назад
There's a video of a public domain protest folk song that ties-in, somewhat, to this course, titled "The Workers All Wealth Create" that ties-in, somewhat, to this course, recently posted at following link: The Workers All Wealth Create--Bob A. Feldman
@Broshaq
@Broshaq 11 лет назад
Minor point, but re: 14:00--Marx's diss. was on Epicurus, not Epictetus.
@TheBigBangggggg
@TheBigBangggggg 6 лет назад
The sound reminds me of Marxian times too.
@freeqwerqwer
@freeqwerqwer 11 лет назад
OMG..this is kind of like attending real college class but on video.
@andersonm1975
@andersonm1975 11 лет назад
good argument, how old are you?
@miker9101
@miker9101 5 лет назад
I'm puzzled by the statement at 11:25 "Marx never wrote a book about communism." Didn't Marx and Engels write the Communist Manifesto? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto#Writing
@C3yl0
@C3yl0 2 года назад
At that time the term was used interchangeably but it is not a communist manifesto in its literal sense of the term.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
The Communist Manifesto was a co written manifesto of the Communist Party of Germany, it was not written on communism as political economy (and it's merely a pamphlet not a book) like Capital is a book on the political economy of capitalism specifically.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
@@C3yl0 It was a manifesto of the Communist Party but it wasn't on the political economy of communism like Capital is on the political economy of capitalism. Marx is mainly known for his analysis od capitalism
@siteshsil_1984
@siteshsil_1984 5 лет назад
I think it is factually incorrect to claim that Marx never wrote a book about communism or socialism...he has written 'communist manifesto' which is considered to be the most important work alongside 'Das Capital'...Though I agree with the fact that 'Das capital' was more of a critique of the capitalist economic model, in his other works(communist manifesto, Critique of the Gotha Program) he seems to have chalked out the transition from capitalism to communism through socialism...if someone has another perspective on this,please share your opinion. I also find that Marxist followers often pick out the certain aspects of Marxian works which are varied from economics to sociology to suit their narrative and it changes according to the audience.
@Diamat1917
@Diamat1917 4 года назад
*Manifesto is a political pamflet, not a book*
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 4 года назад
yes, and a journey to New York, is not New York. The book was not about communism, but about how to get there.
@santsoshcomrade5985
@santsoshcomrade5985 4 года назад
I really respect professor , but I have a long time question ... Why professor did not engaged with any communist party to change the present mode of production....
@sriram97
@sriram97 6 лет назад
I'm from India and want to learn this in detail which among Karl Marx books is best suited to learn in detail about Marxian Economics.
@surplusvalue3271
@surplusvalue3271 2 года назад
hey do u still want to know? an indian comrade here.
@jigokuyin4149
@jigokuyin4149 2 года назад
@@surplusvalue3271 a Asian comrade here
@zackdee7743
@zackdee7743 4 года назад
Fast forward to 2020?
@tanujSE
@tanujSE 4 года назад
Something is like after development of machine,they should be told to go away as things becomes human in nature
@lukaskoube
@lukaskoube 11 лет назад
interesting fact.....Marx thought capitalism was impossible without the state....ironically, we call that socialism today!
@dirkfvnk
@dirkfvnk 9 лет назад
Marx wrote about communism, just very little.
@victorroerholt9523
@victorroerholt9523 7 лет назад
well the whole communist manifesto thing was a thing..
@nietzscheansocialist9677
@nietzscheansocialist9677 7 лет назад
The Communist Manifesto was barely on Communism
@victorroerholt9523
@victorroerholt9523 7 лет назад
its about how to reach a communist society
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 4 года назад
@@victorroerholt9523 yes, and a journey to New York, is not New York.
@C3yl0
@C3yl0 2 года назад
Yes
@Bigglesworthicus
@Bigglesworthicus 8 лет назад
Why does this guy remind me of Q from Star Trek...
@D.A.F.1941
@D.A.F.1941 3 года назад
We the people have to take our Government back from the Corporate Capital Money Rule, for the money is the peoples, also we all should have a say on how it is all being used and how it's being done! Take the cap off of Social Security and people that our rich should not receive it for it was form to help the least of our brothers and sisters, also have another branch of Social Security for our Identity protections and have in the fed & states offices???
@ff-qf1th
@ff-qf1th 3 года назад
5:04
@jasondavis3774
@jasondavis3774 3 года назад
11:25 Um... Dude, you of all people... Ever heard of the Communist Manifesto???
@ThePurpleSnork
@ThePurpleSnork 2 года назад
One of the most popular ways to defend communism is to pretend "it hasn't been properly written about", "it has never actually been tried", or "you just don't/can't properly understand it." The truth is that --- communism doesn't have a solution ---, it's simply a critique on a free market economy (what Marx called capitalism). I know it sounds crazy to hear these words from his mouth, but much of what communists say is rather surprising.
@surplusvalue3271
@surplusvalue3271 2 года назад
@@ThePurpleSnork i mean, communism has never been achieved, but i am openly going to agree USSR and many other states were socialist and a success.
@surplusvalue3271
@surplusvalue3271 2 года назад
ever read communist manifesto? marx wrote about how to abolish capitalism and achieve communism, he never said anything about how socialist/communist system will be. a journey to new york isn't equal to new york.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
He co authored a pamphlet that was the Manifesto of the Communist Party that was commissioned by the Communist League of England that explained dialectical materialism, historical modes of production and capitalism, vaguely talking about the idea of Communism. He did not write a book on the political economy of communism like Capital is about the political economy of capitalism, the nuts and bolts of it. Marx is known for his analysis on capitalism, not communism. I don't even think he mentions revolution in Capital (his last books).
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
@@surplusvalue3271 The USSR was not socialism, and whatever it was it was not a success. Cuba on the other hand would be a success at whatever it is if the US lifts that damn embargo (I'm surprised Cuba made it this long considering even state department memos you can find in the links on Wiki said the goal was to starve them out to promote an overthrow)
@Clitorisaurus
@Clitorisaurus 11 лет назад
The Communist Manifesto isn't a book about communism or socialism?
@ufodeath
@ufodeath 7 лет назад
Its a book calling for a proletarian revolution based on a basic critique of capitalism. The 'planks' presented in the manifesto was not what marx considered socialism or communism, but he might have viewed it as a short term way to transition away from capitalism in the era that he wrote the manifesto in. his views on this changed frequently changed, even shortly after he wrote the manifesto. The more refined marx later down the road would write about the paris commune, and use that as an example of the kind of institutions that a revolutionary working class people would develop and organize under.
@Diamat1917
@Diamat1917 4 года назад
*It is not a book. Is is a political pamphlet*
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
Not really. It was a pamphlet that was the Manifesto of the new Communist Party co authored by Marx that was largely on dialectical materialism, historical modes of production and capitalism, and a little bit on the idea of what communism is but not an analysis. Not a political economy like Capital is about the political economy of capitalism. Marx was mainly known for analyzing capitalism
@andersonm1975
@andersonm1975 11 лет назад
capitalism generates hostile feelings in people too. what is your point?
@vojtasks
@vojtasks 5 лет назад
How? If I trade with someone the exchange must be beneficial for both parties, why would I think about these people as hostiles? I love to exchange goods and service with people peacefully and increase our well-being and wealth. Whereas under socialism every single human more takes more from my own profit without me asking anything. So which system produces hostile feelings?
@CarNikola135
@CarNikola135 4 года назад
@@vojtasks Tread is good, unless he goes out of his way to make product that will die after x years of use, even if it could work fine for z*x years where z>2. Tread is not perfect, also monopoly.
@davec-1378
@davec-1378 4 года назад
@@vojtasks Because in capitalism there actually is not equal trade. That's Marx's whole point. The worker gives more than he is compensated for and that excess is what others build their wealth upon. You can think "yeah, but the worker gets paid what he agreed to work for..." The point is that exchange is always unequal even if a worker is currently satisfied. But more importantly the workers will ultimately be immiserated, especially compared to the capitalist class. Ask yourself why the Midwest is complaining about outsourcing, why everyone is losing retirement benifits, why wages are stagnant etc? These are all signs of what Marx predicted and they will continue to grow as a problem for capitalism.
@antediluvianatheist5262
@antediluvianatheist5262 4 года назад
@@vojtasks Trade is not capitalism. Capitalism is ownership.
@UnluckyGambler
@UnluckyGambler 8 лет назад
marx never wrote about communism? what about the communist manifesto? can someone explain this to me? i saw this on wikipedia: "According to Sylvia Nasar, Marx never learned to properly speak English and never visited an English factory despite living in England during his last thirty years." whats that all about?
@demonhunter635
@demonhunter635 8 лет назад
He didn't describe how a communist society would be, or what it would look like, at least not in massive detail, he laid the groundwork. Which lead to many people interpreting his words differently and coming up with their own theories branching off of Marx thought.
@Oners82
@Oners82 8 лет назад
The Communist Manifesto was a pamphlet that criticized Capitalism and analysed society and class struggles. It says nothing about Socialism or Communism as economic systems, it merely predicts that they will eventually arise due to the problems inherent in Capitalism.
@gman8409
@gman8409 7 лет назад
"We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a man’s own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence."
@Oners82
@Oners82 7 лет назад
G Man One sentence that doesn't even talk about Communism as an ideology, but simply refers to a criticism of it. Nice one, great rebuttal...
@UnluckyGambler
@UnluckyGambler 7 лет назад
G Man yea... y dont u finish ur quote there, buddy? "democracy is the worst form of government" ~winston churchhill see, i can do that too.
@FPOAK
@FPOAK 7 лет назад
If universities are afraid to hire Marxist economics professors, then why are they so willing to hire Marxist literature, sociology, and history professors? I realize that academic departments usually do their own hiring, but it doesn't seem to be the case that universities are afraid of Marxists when Marxists are disproportionally represented among university professors. Also, Wolff's experience of having never been assigned Marx throughout college appears to be a unique one. A large survey of US college course syllabuses found The Communist Manifesto to be the fourth most frequently assigned text: www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/03/what-ivy-league-students-are-reading-that-you-arent/
@maxmaxmax6468
@maxmaxmax6468 7 лет назад
Chimfish I think when Wolff was studying 1 of two, or both could have happened. 1. They threw in the manifesto as a token literature, as it really is not very comprihensive and is mainly used as an introduction for more reading on Marxist theory, or 2. They have recently been introducing this token literature, that those who already have shown an interest in Marxist theory, would have already read. (I read the manifesto in the 9th grade)
@chernobylcoleslaw6698
@chernobylcoleslaw6698 7 лет назад
Cos it has been thorooughly debunked.
@karlmarx508
@karlmarx508 6 лет назад
Chernobyl Coleslaw No, it hasn't. It's pretty spot on.
@macroaggression8974
@macroaggression8974 6 лет назад
Many (perhaps most) of the humanities professors you think are Marxist at not, in fact Marxists. I have lost count of the number of professors I have met who feel free to talk about Marx but haven't actually read his work. That includes supporters and critics.
@51MontyPython
@51MontyPython 6 лет назад
Labor surplus means there are not enough jobs. This means that the price for labor is above the market equilibrium rate -- i.e. the rate at which the demand will be equal to the supply. Labor surplus is self-correcting in a free market, because the more the surplus, the less people will be willing to work for, because they will be that much more desperate just to _HAVE_ a job, any job, that would be all the more scarce yet if the wage rates were arbitrarily set above ME. It does no favors to the unemployed. The remarkable thing about this, however, is that as this surplus is eliminated (by falling wages which creates more jobs), you will have a much more productive economy, with lower prices, creating a lot of demand (for both labor and the stuff being produced -- remember, supply being higher than demand lowers prices further, stimulating more demand, which stimulates more production and hiring, which increases the supply (of both jobs and goods), this in turn results in _higher_ wages as the labor surplus is naturally eliminated, not by central planning but be the natural workings of incentives, and reality. It's how the 'invisible hand' works. Having a labor surplus means that the wages need to come _down_ in order to eliminate itself. ...Or, you could just 'eliminate' all of the otherwise workers... ahem.. There is a balance to things. Wages being too high will create AN EVEN BIGGER LABOR SURPLUS. Wages being too low (in a free economy) will mean that you will not _have_ any labor surplus to speak of, but rather, a _shortage_ of labor (or, a surplus of jobs), and 'just right' (as Goldilocks would say) is the rate at which there is neither a shortage of labor _or_ jobs. What good is it to have more jobs, if those jobs are not able to be filled, or higher wages, if it comes at the cost of jobs, and are self-defeating anyway as they rob not only the labor pool (creating an even greater labor surplus -- the "problem," right?) but the economy itself, such as to rob those workers of the *_VALUE_* of the money they make anyway. That's what people don't get, that value is relative. What then would "high" vs "low" wages mean? Can you define these? NO, you can not. People are childishly simple in their thinking about these things, either not being aware of or ignoring the dynamics which determine value and purchasing power, as they all relate to supply and demand, and not realizing that the value of a dollar isn't just set by fiat, and neither then, can _prices._ Economics is like a rubix cube that when left to it's own devices, solves itself, but which can _NEVER_ do this from, or with, deliberate human intervention. But, some people don't like the color of the rubix cube, and so are never happy until they achieve the sort of pattern that can _never_ be obtained, at least not anywhere but in the imagination of the beholder, and the more they try to _make_ it fit their preferred picture, the _further_ away from it it gets, which is inevitable, and understood as well as the reason for which, by those who actually understand economics. _Real_ economics, but economics none the less (which Marxism has nothing to do with). Karl Marx was not an economist. You will find no "economic theory" in any of his writings. Nothing new there. Merely the observation of and lamenting at the fact that we see certain outcomes less favorable from a subjective (as opposed to objective) standpoint than some envisaged alternative existing nowhere but in the imagination of the utopian dreamer. It's stupid. It's Childish. Imagine having a 3 year old running the entire economy of the world (or trying to), through central planning, and passing a new law called the "Every child gets a free pony Act." Why, _who_ would be opposed to this? And why would they not care for the happiness and well-being of the children? The _CHIIIIIIILDREN!!!_ ..... _That_ is the level of stupidity, of communism and central planning, and no exaggeration either, is the scary thing. In fact, it doesn't do it justice. Seriously, how could _anyone_ be stupid enough to think it's a good idea? Even _without_ studying and understand economics? Just look at *_REALITY._* You know what Einstein said about insanity.. And of course, Edmund Burke -- The only lesson of history is that people never learn the lessons of history.
@Diamat1917
@Diamat1917 4 года назад
*There has never been labour surplus in the entire history of economics. There has never been equilibrium in the entire history of capitalism* *Capitalism is based on exploitation, robbery and murder*
@juanagosto3428
@juanagosto3428 7 лет назад
KARL MARX IS THE TRUTH ✊
@andersonm1975
@andersonm1975 11 лет назад
comparing Marxism to capitalism when you don't understand capitalism just makes you look foolish. home boy should read real capitalist literature and not refer the the rubbish that he was force fed in the education system.
@samarthtaneja3534
@samarthtaneja3534 5 лет назад
He has a PhD in economics lmao
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, you probably shouldn't make comments anymore because you have proven you're foolish.
@Havoc_Prime
@Havoc_Prime Год назад
11:29 Marx never wrote a book about communism? Get real, dude!
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
He co authored a pamphlet that was the Manifesto of the Communist Party that was commissioned by the Communist League that explained dialectical materialism, historical modes of production and capitalism, vaguely talking about Communism. He did not write a book on the political economy of communism like Capital is about the political economy of capitalism, the nuts and bolts of it. Marx is known for his analysis on capitalism, not communism. I don't even think he mentions revolution in Capital (his last books).
@benchladek5733
@benchladek5733 7 лет назад
The example on the two children, where one loves and the one that critics the family life. I wish he could draw the line between adam smith, karl marx and the two children. Adam smith (loving child) grew up, was a successful teacher and strived to be a human. Where as the Karl Marx (unloving child) took everything from everyone around him, drank all the time, lived off Engels, complained, failed at nearly every job that had to be given to him. Why do we take his work seriously, when the man himself couldn't have survived without the people around him who were successful in the very system he despised. If people want Marxism or Communism, there is no need to push for it, because the workers will rise up and create it when they are fed up, according to the theory. By foisting it on people you are not going to achieve marxism but something similar to Stalinism. So how about we just let the ideas exist, but let it rest. Let people make their own minds up instead of forcing ideas on them.
@El_Rebelde_
@El_Rebelde_ 7 лет назад
Ben Chladek to spread ideas you have say them.
@benchladek5733
@benchladek5733 7 лет назад
True Ivan but as as above character has nothing to do to truth. And the truth is what you want it to be when you really think about. I only wish good luck to Marxists and their endeavours on workers revolution. Hopefully it doesn't get high jacked by another -ism.
@benjaminjohn675
@benjaminjohn675 7 лет назад
lmao is that a joke?
@karlmarx508
@karlmarx508 6 лет назад
Ben Chladek Trying to belittle Marx? The man was brilliant.
@samarthtaneja3534
@samarthtaneja3534 5 лет назад
Buddy have you ever heard of class consciousness? Noone’s forcing Marxism upon anyone. Quite the opposite actually
@ottometzger5066
@ottometzger5066 8 лет назад
"Like every other economic system human beings have ever lived in has had the people who love it and have had the people who don't." How will socialism or communism be any different? We all know Marx never described what a communist society would look like, and yet you say he "wanted to get beyond capitalism." Was he insane? What if what comes after capitalism is infinitely worse than the system we are living under now?
@hopperthemarxist8533
@hopperthemarxist8533 8 лет назад
Because it's more rational. Socialism is simply allowing more sectors of the economy to be run in the public interest. Firefighters. Cops. Roads. The military. Schools. Social security. These are all socialist. So why not healthcare education energy. All 3 would be better run in public sector. Save money and would have better outcomes
@ottometzger5066
@ottometzger5066 8 лет назад
+Babak G Why stop there? Isn't food even more important than roads, healthcare, etc? Why not nationalize the farms and grocery stores? I don't know about you, but here in the U.S. the police force is more of a public menace than a public servant, the public roads and bridges are crumbling, the public education system has an absurdly high drop out rate, what would convince me that the government would do any better with healthcare? I've already seen how it's handled healthcare for our veterans through the VA. This idea that "profit" and "people's needs" are somehow counterpoised needs to disappear. Imagine for a moment, the greediest person you possibly can. In a free marker system where the government's only role is the protection of our lives and property, what is the only way this person can get rich? The only way he can get rich is by providing some product or service that people are willing to voluntarily exchange their money for, that is, some product or service that satisfies people's needs. Producers that try to sell goods or provide services that are not valued by people shortly go out of business.
@hopperthemarxist8533
@hopperthemarxist8533 8 лет назад
***** thanks for this its useful to point out to people that communism is not some end product of history -- helps people to see that the structure of society develops the way that people act within those systems.
@chernobylcoleslaw6698
@chernobylcoleslaw6698 7 лет назад
"We all know Marx never described what a communist society would look like, and yet you say he "wanted to get beyond capitalism." Was he insane? What if what comes after capitalism is infinitely worse than the system we are living under now." Rekt.
@51MontyPython
@51MontyPython 6 лет назад
One of the most interesting aspects of communist thought, is that it relies upon the railing (not even an argument proper) against an economic system that doesn't even exist, as the basis of supporting an economic system that never *_could_* exist, at least not anywhere but outside of reality. Ever noticed how even communists never really assert outright that they know of a system that can produce better outcomes than capitalism, or at least, they never really argue this (because they can't, with a straight face), but rather, leave it up to the _assumption_ of the naïve and impressionable listener, to deduce on their own, that such is the case -- and that this is, of course, communism, or, "Marxism." Even communists know they can't make any argument in favor of communism, that holds up to scrutiny (and REALITY); rather, they can only offer criticisms of "capitalism" while usually referring to situations which are hardly capitalist, if at all, but rather, _fascist/socialist._
@kennethchanSG
@kennethchanSG 8 лет назад
Evolution Economy is a free open market that evolves thru time is the best working model. Martxism, Socialism or Communism didnt work they tried it and failed. Current world ecocnomy is gobalised its too complex and modern for Martx.
@Nokkenbuer
@Nokkenbuer 8 лет назад
Complete nonsense.
@whatabouttheearth
@whatabouttheearth 11 месяцев назад
You need to study the historical modes of production and than tell me if capitalism or the globally predominant aspects of the economy have been free. Under capitalism you pay your boss more than you get paid because of surplus value. That surplus value is more than your paid, and more than the taxes you pay. That surplus value, which is stolen from the profits of the workers, is what causes the capitalist class to survive, they live of off that theft. Capitalism is literally a thievery system
@lukaskoube
@lukaskoube 11 лет назад
no one learns marxism bc it is so easy to disprove......premise: the labor theory of value does not account for prices or value. Conclusion: there is no exploitation in the market. conclusion 2: marx is incorrect and capitalism rocks!
@ufodeath
@ufodeath 7 лет назад
A major part of the LTV is literally based on an analysis of prices as commodities are sold in the market!
@justinamswta9821
@justinamswta9821 7 лет назад
Of course it fucking accounts for prices and value. What a dumb statement.
@volin4921
@volin4921 6 лет назад
@hypnotoad's disciple It doesn't really account for prices (see the transformation problem) and value is a useless construct becasue it's largely hypothetical and can't be measured.
@mateo386
@mateo386 6 лет назад
You clearly showed us you didn't learnt Marxism implying that value = price. Actually, there are some studies showing that the LTV does actually work: drive.google.com/file/d/0BxvNb6ewL7kOdWhYSEI4OVJHTkk/view reality.gn.apc.org/econ/DZ_article1.pdf reality.gn.apc.org/econ/Zachariah_LabourValue.pdf users.wfu.edu/cottrell/eea97.pdf
@vojtasks
@vojtasks 5 лет назад
@@mateo386 no, labor theory of value never works. That's obviously nonsense. How's possible that people value land more than before if no work has been spent on such land and it just stayed the same. Value of things is absolutely not derived from "work inside it". Marx had to conclude something like this to support his philosophy of explotation and hate. Made this economics, maybe he knew that, to support his philosophy and maybe he knew he lied. Other people don't value things according to work inside it. LVT does not describe reality.
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