Is it Better to Buy or Rent in Mexico? 

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I agree with everything being said in this video but I want to add my own two cents. I have been coming to Mexico since around 1990. I initially came on short vacation stays but because of my work, I was able to come three or four times a year for a couple to three weeks at a time. Most of that time was spent in Puerto Vallarta although I did travel around. I usually stayed in a condo that belonged to an acquaintance. I really liked the building and the colonia [neighborhood]. I also enjoyed Puerto Vallarta a great deal. I became friends with several of the other owners of condos in the building. Around 1996, one of the owners told me he was looking for a larger condo in the same colonial and was considering selling his place. We sat down and discussed terms. I bought the place. My intention was to use it as a vacation home and also rent it out to people I knew who also liked to come to Puerto Vallarta. Then later, when I was ready to stop working in the states, I would move down PV permanently and live in the condo. Now, that has worked out well for me. When I decided to stop working, I would come down and spend around 5 to 6 months in the condo and then spend the rest of the time helping my sister with caring for our mother. So it worked out for me and still does. Oh, one important point. If you buy property, become a permanent resident. If you do not do so and later decide to sell your property, you are going to be hit with a big capital gains tax bill when you sell. If you decide that you might enjoy living in Mexico there are several things you might want to consider. As suggested, rent a place and also move about. Do that both in terms of different areas of Mexico, as well as different locations in the city you think is your preferred location. Also, make sure you spend time in that location at various times of the year. The weather in any particular location can vary dramatically over the course of the year. The Yucatan/Q'roo area, like Puerto Vallarta, has some hot and humid weather at certain times of the year. Think of summer in Miami or Houston. PV, for example, is in the high 80s and low 90s starting sometime in June and more importantly, can get humid. The rains start in July and August and it will rain, pretty much every day until October. This is usually similar to South Florida where it will cloud up in the later afternoon and then rain like crazy for an hour or a little less or more. August, September, and October are usually the worst. So, make sure that you experience the climate throughout the year in the places you are thinking about settling. Another factor is the people factor, especially if you are considering an area where there is a lot of tourism, like PV, the Riviera Maya, San Miguel de Allende, Lake Chapala, etc. In the High Season, the Zona Romantica in PV is packed with tourists staying in hotels or condos. It is a great place to stay on a vacation as it is right by the beach, there are lots of great restaurants and shops, and plenty of entertainment options. I certainly recommend it for a place to spend a vacation. I would never live down there and exactly because it is packed with tourists. It is crowded and noisy, there is no parking to speak of, and it can be a pain the arse to live day in and out. You are surrounded by people who are there for a week or three and they are having a blast. But you might not appreciate the guys in the place next to yours who are blasting music late into the night with 15 of their new best friends. This brings up a slightly different issue. Mexico has a very different culture than is found in the States. Mexico has several cultural/religious events that happen each year. In early December, the Feast of the Virgin of Guadalupe is held. Semana Sancta [the week between Palm Sunday and Easter] is another. Your city may have celebrations where people pour into town, roads are blocked off, and it can be quite a party. Samana Sancta in PV means thousands of people pouring in from Guadalajara, Mexico City, not to mention just about every university student in Mexico who is not in Cancun. Additionally, depending on where you live, the neighbors might decide to have a little party called a posada, sometime in the second half of December. They will block off the block of your street, set up a street party, and have a band or DJ until the wee hours of the morning. Now the good thing is that it is likely that they will invite you to join in and it is a really great way to make new friends. The bad thing is that you might want to use earplugs that night if you want to get to sleep before they decide to stop the party. So, as I said, spend some time in any neighborhood you are thinking of buying in. If you are going to buy property, you might want to consider having someone manage your unit for you when you are not there. It depends on the Condo Association you are buying into. They might have some arrangement in place. I have a very helpful person who watches my place when I am not around. He also makes certain the electric bill, internet/telephone bill, and property tax [$82.00 USD/year] are all paid timely. He has a person come by and clean, as well as, water the plants at my unit. If I need to repair something inside my unit, he has a list of reliable people who take care of leaky faucets, non-functioning water heaters, etc. And he does a weekly check on the place to make sure nothing weird is going on in the unit when I am not there. Also, if you are buying a condo, the person you are buying from is supposed to obtain a certification from the condo association and the local government that all the condo association fees and property tax payments are up to date. This information is supposed to be provided to the Notario prior to the closing of the sale and issuance of your fideicomisio. But you might want to check prior to the closing to ensure this has been done. One of my friends had an issue in the building they bought into where the seller forged the certification regarding the condo fees and half a year's association fees were outstanding. Fortunately, someone in the building suspected something was up and tipped them off that there were outstanding fees owed so they refused to close until the fees were paid. If it had closed with fees owed, guess what would have happened? Finally, living in a foreign country has its blessings and it has its problems and it has its weird, odd things. Mexico is not the USA or Canada. Too often I have met people who decided to move to Mexico because they fell in love with it on vacation. But then they moved down and after a bit discovered that things are not done in Mexico exactly the way they are done in Des Moines. The people here are friendly, they are kind, they work hard, and they are not the same as people in the US. This may confuse you and may sometime frustrate you, especially if you are trying to negotiate with someone for some service - say to have repairs or renovations. Or that perfect chair you want for your place. It might take longer than you thought it would. Roll with the punches, make friends with others who have learned how to negotiate the ins and outs of life in Mexico, and most importantly, make friends with Mexicans. They will help you navigate your way through your first few years with fewer issues than you might otherwise have. And if you make friends with your Mexican neighbors, you will discover that you have friends for life.

Our daughter built a house 25 minutes outside of Queretaro. 2500 sq ft, very nice. She has no desire to rent it because rents are about $150/month ! I don’t want to live 25 minutes away from downtown but it is still super cheap to rent nice places. She said a basic 1/1 apartment rents for about $60/month in thst area.

Great advice. Will keep that in mind..."motivated sellers."

Since selling my house this has been on my mind a lot. I’m currently taking your advice and waiting for the fire sell that I’m sure will happen because so many people jump in heart first and mind second. Excellent video, perfect timing, and perfect length.

I am impressed with your videos regarding Mexico, seriously! You are answering questions that I ponder on as an adult with a family. Too many videos out about food, food drinking, tours around the towns which are fine but one can only take so much of the filtered, reused content! I'm glad I stumbled upon your video - a wealth of information that I appreciate you putting out there. Thank you for all your hard work!

Thank you for the video. The plan you suggested is exactly what my wife and I have decided to do. Thank you for reinforcing our plan.

The look on his face when he said the "happy wife, happy life".....said it all. I feel ya man.

Been coming to Mexico for over 19 years and decided to retire a couple of years ago. We bought our house in Bucerias which we have been to many times before for several months. Got a 2000 square foot house that is14 years old, remolded and are happy with it and living here in the Riviera Nayarit just north of Puerto Vallarta. Our house has actually increased in value by 80 per cent in two years per our realtor friend.

I cannot empathize Paul's point that living somewhere is radically different from visiting there as a tourist. We really don't go para sailing and on booze cruises everyday and night. We have now rented for 4.5 years and have no intention to buy nor do we have any intention to ever leave Mexico we will just rent forever. When you rent generally you do not pay any repair costs nor are you stuck trying to identifiy a trusworthy repair person, communicating with them, and potentially getting screwed by them.

Paul, I think you were very fortunate. In my experience, most don't buy property and then end up making a profit later. We lived in Costa Rica for a little over a year and the same thing happened there. Lots of people came there, bought immediately and later regretted it. When they wanted to or had to leave Costa RIca, they ended up taking a loss. Most people we knew came out short on property value. We rented and it turned out perfectly. We had to move back to the US and only had to give 30 days notice, packed up and left with no loss. Best thing said on this video is to rent for 1 year, at the VERY least. But, if/when we move back to CR, we will probably rent for good. The freedom to move around the country is well worth the loss in rent vs hopeful home equity in a foreign country.

The downside to renting in Mexico is the hassle you go through to rent, sometimes the requirements can be outrageous, like a Mexican national that owns property having to vouch for you. Another issue is if something breaks, or the roof leaks, you fix it, or pay to have it fixed. Renting in Mexico is not like renting north of the border.

We just bought a fixer upper house in Puntarena in Puerto Morelos. It’s a gated community. It was a bit of a fire sale and got it for about 1,000,000 pesos under asking. I think we did good. We have been visiting the area for 10 years and feel comfortable that there is a great established expat community to draw from for advice. I just don’t like renting and watching that money leave with zero chance of recouping it. Property is selling so fast in that a area right now we thought we should get in sooner than later. But we bought sooner than we wanted and now are scrambling to learn Spanish from your other channel 😁. Really enjoy your vids, keep up the good work!

The wife and I have owned a home for 35 years! We are planning on renting in Mexico for at least the first year and considering renting for the rest of our lives!

Buying a house in Mexico could make sense for someone (not a US citizen) who doesn't have visa-free access to Mexico, and who would like to spend a lot of time there. Buying a house in Mexico (with a value above a certain level) affords one a residence permit... and thereby unfettered access to the country.... for one who doesn't have visa-free access.

I had lived in Mexico once, many years ago, and knew Mexico was right for me. Querétaro checked all the boxes. Bought a house a couple months later. Too big, but good price, and awesome gated community in a forest. NOTE: I am nervous about RENT INFLATION, and a devaluing dollar, as I do not have the benefit of a wife’s income.

There some pluses in renting. You don't have to deal with taxes or maintenance issues, nor pay property taxes (which are low in Mexico). And if you need to bug out, you don't have to worry about selling the property. As for appreciation, it's worth keeping in mind that the Peso could severely drop in value if there is an economic crisis. Repatriation of funds to the US could be difficult during an economic crisis. I know Mexico has been economically stable for quite some time, but that could change.

A great video again Paul wish more countries with an expat covering these type topics. Enjoy following you two along this way.. Informative and entertaining videos are so hard to find of this quality. You can really explain things so clearly Paul.

We bought our home in Cozumel, 2001..we were not retired then..Best decision we ever made. Agree with his comments.. Property values have increased for sure. Do your homework

Thank you so much for this video... I am sort of at a cross road with regard to moving to Mexico... actually waiting on some $$ from a real estate sale... I do want to do some short term renting... and travel around a bit. I agree with renting being a bit of a toss out .. with the roof overhead. :) So I will be looking into more information on this whole topic. Mil Gracias!

My 2 cents: RENT. First, in general, buying is not always a good deal. The US has a glut of McMansions right now and prices don't always go up as the housing bubble proved. Personally, I think we are in another. Many people are downsizing and most millennials simply cannot afford to buy. Housing price increases are way over the increase in wages for the last 40 years. Economists say your housing costs should only be around a third of your income. If you get caught when the bubble bursts, you may be stuck with a house you cannot get rid of without a substantial loss. Hence, your point on buying cheap. Second, en cuanto a Mexico (learned that phrase from your spanish channel), Mexico is huge and things change all the time. For instance, I would not live in QR due to the violence. Also, Mexico is HUGE, so many potential places to live. I have been here 3 years and I have not seen one tenth of the potential places I would want to buy a house in. And then there is the hassle of buying, getting your permanente, lawyers, etc. It takes me a minimum of a month to see if I want to even RENT in a city. It is hard to pick the right place for your forever home. Big town, small town, beach, mountains, in between?, ease of travel, need a car?, how bored will you get? what happens if you get sick and are on medicare? If you lack really good spanish or fail to make real connections with people, you can feel isolated after a period of time. All those decisions is why I would not buy until I am really, really sure about where I want to live.

Sound advice. Renting also allows one not to be stuck in or experience just one country. I realize this is a Mexican centric channel, but I assume there are people like me who plan to rent in Mexico for the winter. Costa Rica for the next winter, a Caribbean island for the next winter, etc.. One gets to experience a new country longer than a tourist but they are not ever stuck in one country unless they absolutely love it. I am kind of curious, since your wife is a bit of a nomad, why just Mexico and not also places like panama, costa rica, etc? Speaking Spanish gives one a lot of options in the world.

Hey Paul, like your videos! They have been very informative. My older brother has retired to Merida and has purchased a house there. He and his wife have been there 7 years now and my wife and I visit yearly.

Thanks again Paul for a nice video. My favorite places in Mexico include Puerto Vallarta, Huatulco and Guanajuato - these are nice places to live.

"Happy wife happy life" haha Love this channel! So happy I discovered it. Mexico is a possibility and you sure do make it look very attractive. Muy Gracias!

Great Advice! I just signed a year lease in Puerto Vallarta.

Great advice Paul 👍 we've been in Mexico 2 months as Permanent residents staying in a beautiful rental we leased for 1 year. The Baja is gorgeous but in 1 year our mindset might be to explore more of beautiful 🇲🇽 on the mainland. Too many things to see & do, I agree with Linda! Your advice has helped us to navigate this process of moving our lives out of Canada 🇨🇦 and we are so grateful for all the time and effort you put into getting us informed by you videos. Ps. La Paz is a gorgeous place to visit with Linda.

Your videos are great..real world topics for the everyday people. Not the rich and famous, that's what makes your information so relevant. We were looking at a property in Tulum as a part time residence and rental. What we learned from our research was the population was growing fast and furious. The problem with that was we would always have construction going on around us as this was a 5 to 8 year plan. The other issue with the exponential growth is....why would our property be chosen to rent over the 300 other options out there..the answer was, it wouldn't.. so it would have to be rented at below market value to draw attention to it..for years until we had an estimated client base. Then resale..... in the end Covid hit and put a stop to the idea..that was a blessing for us as we didn't invest. What I learned from the research was..we will rent a couple of months a year, from someone like you did. Keep up the good work. You have no idea how much your incite is appreciated

We rented for about a year and a half in a couple different places in Mexico before making the decision to buy. Follow the advice in theis video and rent first. -Marc

I am looking at moving to Mexico to maybe rent and possibly buy later once I see a decent small acreage in the right location such mountain side of PV or Guadalajara

Well. My story. I jumped right in. I found the perfect house on the beach in Mahahual. I paid cash. I visit 2 weeks a month every month. But I can afford to do so. A year later we can’t wait to move there we just love it. We are 2 years away from moving there. We will be retired.

Great advice. Also, I think that what you and Linda did was very smart 6 years ago and now. Thanks for the share🤗

Screaming deal. $US800 a month. We were paying more than that in 2011 for a small older house with a super lake view in Estado de México - in a Pueblo Majico. When we were in El Centro, we were offered another smaller place at a real good price. The owner (a Mexican gentleman from Sonora) only wanted to rent to norte americanos...

I am curious to see where you next buy a place.

Rent incase we need to escape haha N less headaches n less responsibility Keeping it minimalist mang Thanks for the vid brother 🙏 Cheers J&D 🍻

My husband and i recently bought from an expat his first house in Mexico. He then worked his profit to afford him a house in Bali then Playacar. The house i bought is average for Mexican residents, but the way he pizzazed it to meet his liking as a retired contract owner for building industry was too good to miss. So i ended up with a great purchase at a decent price. He bought the house in 2010, so he made profit as well as met my expectations for safety and quality. I've been to most places in Mexico before this. I thrive well near the water, so i studied its counterparts on the Pacific side, but what is unique about Playa is the Carribean sea. This area has complete amenities and is still affordable. Only 2 places would rival it now, Haiti and Colombia, which as an American retiree, can be more tedious to travel on time and money.

We did as well-sold all and now living in Mexico. In our case we are renting for about a 1/3 of what you were. Which includes all utilities except internet. For us if were able to stay here and like it we will probably be renters for life.

Interesting clip,good advice

In my 15 years in Mexico, I have seen a lot of gringos buying and selling. Most lose. They lose the least if they are are in the liquid part of the market: $100-200K US. Above that, a loss of 30% would be around average, I think. But now that is not the only consideration. Keeping (all) your money in the bank has been super safe during our whole lives, and those of our parents as well. But many grandparents lost most or all of their bank deposits in the Great Depression. History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme. The world has never been more indebted than today, and the risk that the house of cards will come down is very real. And with Bail-In legislation now passed by most western governments, it is depositors, not governments who will bail out the banks next time. (This already happened in Cyprus recently.) This is now the real reason to buy, not rent, in Mexico or anyplace else.

Hi Qroo Paul, thank you so much for all your valuable advise you give us. Is there a way to find out if who is the real owner of a property is listed for sale? I just want to make sure that I’m not being scammed. Thank you.

Paul, thanks for posting the tour of your condo.. how much are condo fees?

It's always better to rent the 1st year in Mexico - to make sure you have the right neighborhood and neighbors, AND often takes 1-2 years to sell a Mexican property. Renting you just move after your lease is up if it didn't work out for you. You need time to find the right neighborhood and neighbors - some can be super partiers and turn into a nightmare. Overall it's been more economical to rent than to buy or build your own home. BUT, new World Economic trends is going to make it SUPER beneficial to buy (but only after your 1st year of renting). Reason? USD is about to drop precipitously, while the Pesos will evaluate greatly against $USD. This hasn't happened in over 40+ years in Mexico. Mexico IS the World's no. 1 cheapest producer of manufactured goods, when you include bringing resources to the Factories and then delivering finished products to major markets, Canada, USA, Europe. Companies are leaving China in droves, and Mexico will fare a whole lot better in this Worldwide Depression, than even the USA. So yes buy! Things have changed.

Another great video Paul! What is the easiest way to find a rental? Are there websites that I should look at? Thanks!

Once again another interesting video Sr.

Great advice, thank you. See you in January.

Realistically how much am I looking at paying a month for a 100k property?

Thank you very much for your videos and smart advices. Really helpful.

Good advice for any country.

Hi Paul, thanks for this info. I have a question- did you have to pay capital gains on the place you sold in the U.S.? That is the only thing that concerns me about selling a house in the U.S., and then renting in Mexico. My understanding is that you have a period of time where you would need to roll your gains into another like property to avoid paying taxes (though I'm not sure if that applies to buying a property in a different country). Thanks!

I think it’s a good time to buy pesos!!

Thank you so much for all of these wonderful videos. I am going to mexico city tomorrow :). Do you know of any good realtors that take people around to view homes for sale? I am looking to purchase property as an investment but every real estate company I reached out to thus far states I have to look online and contact each realtor for a property I find interest in. Not as easy as having someone that knows what you want and looks for it. Please help if possible. I wish you guys were still there where I would be able to meet you "(

You're an excellent teacher! :-)

Another great one, thanks bro! ✊

Thanks for your information

Good info, Thanks. Love the shirt.

We bought a piece of land (if you call the right of pocession of land ( ejido) buying) and are building a house now. For the next about 10 years we will be there only very little and have to pay someone to live there permanently. Also the family can use it any time. If possible we will rent it out - by this we hope it is enough to run the cost of the house. Later we might stay there for about 5 month per year. When ever we sell the house (to mexicans - because it is ejido land) I believe we will make a huge profit. But we will like the house - the view is breathtaking and maybe we will never sell it…

Same all over the world....

Great video. What about all the other expenses that comes with a house or condo, for example taxes, insurance, maintenance fees, etc. Are they about the same as in the US?

Where are the links to the two videos you mentioned?

Pretty cheap to rent in Mexico. There are different situations where buying something is good if you want to rent it out or just have it as a vacation place to go to. That's what I did In Cabo. I'm spending a lot of money gong there and "fixing it up" But I work part time in the USA and I have no children. I can also get my resistancy card easier by buying something. Maybe I'll sell it, maybe I won't, in about 10 years. Love it, with a million dollar view!

Amazing content The 🌎 loves it

Should I retire and choose to live abroad--whether Mexico or Vietnam or Korea--I would not buy. Or at least not immediately. I'd want to move around from place to place for a long while and a house would be a burden. And I think my money could do more for me without being sunk into a non-liquid asset.

Hey Paul. I appreciate your sartorial style very much. Or is it your wife's sense of style I admire??

Good information as always.

I agree ownership is better as it is your equity, however, I was never in a position to save for down payment so I've rented all these years. Nevertheless I'm thankful for flexibility and have been blessed. 🙏✌🏻

Great video as usual! Thank you 😊

I bought, but my circumstances are a little different. I'd been coming to Mazatlán for several years - in the summer, so I knew what I was getting into at least as far as the weather and the layout of the city. A small apartment (60m2) came on the market in Centro just a 15 minute walk from almost everything, and it was under $25k. My plans were (and it was true until Covid) to use it as a base while I traveled, and then either settle there full time or buy something else a little bigger. So far it's been 3+ years and other than the plan to sell my house in the USA to fund my travels (not unsold because I have doubts about México, but because it's where I grew up and is of sentimental value as well as $$) everything is pretty much working as planned. I also thought that if things didn't work out, the apartment wouldn't cause a financial drain trying to sell it. So my advice is pretty much yours - rent unless you have an opportunity for a deal that ticks all the boxes on your list.

Right on. I think your right

Thank you for the great information

Could you research what the pros and cons are of owning rental property in Mexico?

Great video, Paul!

Hello Sir I have a question, I am an Indian resident and since the pandemic the Mexican consulate in india has told me that for a any temp or permanent residency visa they are NOT processing at the moment from here in india . I have been observing from last two years and the status is not changing . But luckily I have Usa 🇺🇸 tourist visa so I am travelling to Mexico in January arriving usa in December. So my question to you is do you know if I meet the immigration office within Mexico and tell them that I need to process a permanent residency , would they be able to do it from Mexico ? Or I have to wait till this unknown pandemic ends and they reopen the country for processing of all visas ? Please 🙏🏽 tel me

Always great advise

Gave me a big bag of money and said “go away!” 😅👍

If your retired and only want to live in Mexico 3 -6 months a year, it seems to make sense for us to rent a place. And I want to live in a hotel environment, some hotels have people who own their place within the hotel property, so those are the people I want to rent from. Being retired at 80 years old, buying is not an option that I will consider. Are there any retirement properties with nursing facilities attached?

I love renting it gives me ultimate flexibility.

Thanks for sharing :)) Very interesting 👍👍👍

Enjoyed the video.. thank you

Paul, Would you be able to help me with a low cost way to apply for a resident card? I am closing in my condo or they are "turning over" next month early January. I would like to be able to take advantage of the health care options and other benefits. What would be my first step?

I know north Baja is its own animal, so it perhaps doesn't conform to the general rules of buying in MX or anyplace outside of the US. First and foremost, it follows the same exact dynamics of SoCal real estate: ocean, ocean, ocean. Beachfront, walk, view in that order of value. Secondly, detached single family home, garage, patio, yard. Second thoughts or regrets seem non existent since the US is 30 minutes away. Burnt out, tired of MX? Go to the US for a few days and you'll rush right back. The short term (weekend) rental market also provides a key investment advantage that can help cover baseline costs. I advise many to rent their SoCal house and rent in baja. It provides a nice intro and escape path if things don't turn out. Otoh, just like prime beach towns, there's a buyers waiting list here. A colleague just paid $850k for a prime beach house that never hit the market. It was mentioned in passing while walking the dog. A few late night emails, and it was a done deal before the handful of people expecting the listing to show found out it was all over. That same night, same realtor, same multi buyer situation, and a $400k house 2 rows back was gone. Which is the 3rd point: this place is tied to socal, up or down. The border is like a legal technicality that really doesn't have much influence. Nothing is left but to expand south of San diego, international boundaries be damned.

Solid advice.

Additional things to know before you buy - If you might need the money don't buy, it can take 2 years to sell plus 6 months to close and receive your money. It is not like the USA where in 2016 we sold in 3 days with a bidding war and close in 2 weeks.

I saw a statement in one video that said when you sell your house in Mexico that 30% of the sales price goes to the government. That doesn't sound right???

thanks , very informative

Very good advice thank you👍🙏🙏

I moved to Mazatlán two years ago. I'm paying $3000 MXN ($146 USD) per month for a 2-bedroom house with a garage. I live in a middle-class neighborhood with the locals. I'm still in shock at how low the cost of my rent is, which is about average for this area!!! OMG

How could you legally buy that property? Isn't it too close to the coast?

Happy wife... Happy life. 😅 So true.

Yes buy

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I like that shirt Paul :)

What if you live in a motorhome and want to buy a house in the future?

What are the most common mistakes of expats when buying a property in MX?

Sound as a pound advice paul. And tha dunt luc a gift horse int gob....lol translation never pass up a fantastic gift of an opportunity lol

Any tips for buying a pre construction condo?

Hi Paul, as usual. Always great info. My wife and I are planning of buy an empty lox in Merida and building our dream home. Any advice? We usually going every year, but haven’t the last 2 yrs mainly due to COVID. Thanks 🙏

2019 I looked at 12 houses in Querétaro. ZERO motivated! These were houses on the market for MANY months. In spite of that, 3 of the sellers RAISED their price after declining my offer.

How old r u man?

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So that’s your advice? Rent from someone that is desperate to sell? Wow that should be easy to fine