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Is it Possible to Build a Flyer That Never Has to Land? (Scrap Mechanic Survival Ep.45) 

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Hey everyone back with more Scrap Mechanic Survival! Today we're back in the solo world to try out an experiment: is it possible to build a flyer that can theoretically never land? Basically can we build a flyer that crafts its own fuel and can hover above an oil pond to get more?
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@kANGaming
@kANGaming 3 года назад
Just reading the comments after an hour and already you guys have some very interesting ideas to try :D
@ballisticbattlefield6644
@ballisticbattlefield6644 3 года назад
Yep
@GiratinaTech
@GiratinaTech 3 года назад
KAN! KAAAAAN! I GOT AN IDEA! creative mode
@ballisticbattlefield6644
@ballisticbattlefield6644 3 года назад
Theoretical you could reduce the vac tube by 1 and that would make your vehicle more efficient plus you could make the seat a lower level to reduce weight Or you could reduce the vac tube by two if you have a fuel dock
@ballisticbattlefield6644
@ballisticbattlefield6644 3 года назад
@@GiratinaTech your not helping
@astronomicalgamer205
@astronomicalgamer205 3 года назад
Try useing a lighter block so its lighter and less weight
@connork71
@connork71 3 года назад
Scrap man tested pulsing thrusters on his video; I believe he found that it created less fuel consumption overall. Perhaps pulsing numerous thrusters at different intervals will give you smoother yet sustainable flight.
@captain_loeffel
@captain_loeffel 3 года назад
Yes the pulsating thrusters had the same power but far less fuel consumption. If I remember right you don't need to have different intervals. The pulsating was fairly fast and the thrust was as if the thrusters never turn off. Still with all the things you need additionally you might keep it in air, but I don't think, that you can refuel. If refueling is possible then it will be so slow, that it wouldn't make any sense at all.
@danielpalecek4090
@danielpalecek4090 3 года назад
no there is not latestart bug it is same effective but less power I watched that video 2 and he almost FAKED TEST I tested both bugs and answer is NO it is less effective because you need more thrusters and you are heavier
@danielpalecek4090
@danielpalecek4090 3 года назад
@@captain_loeffel they fixed it in "oil pond" opdate
@giin97
@giin97 3 года назад
Thrusting for half the time used half the fuel. Logically, it follows that you also average half the thrust. His test showed only that there isn't a minimum fuel consumption each time the thruster was triggered, which was being stated in the comments, warning that pulsing would increase fuel consumption. It doesn't. As Daniel states above, it will cause reduced efficiency because, at the very least, the logic systems alone will be added weight. At worst, you add additional thrusters, even more weight.
@giin97
@giin97 3 года назад
@NCR Veteran Ranger pulsejets in real life are also known for lesser fuel efficiency. Detonation pulse jets are a different story, and are stinkin cool, but those aren't relevant, that tech isn't in the game.
@ovencake523
@ovencake523 3 года назад
As long as you have a unit that gives a sustainable surplus of thrust theoretically you can just duplicate it to get as much thrust as you need
@ovencake523
@ovencake523 3 года назад
​@@hex697 sustainable surplus of thrust. They didn't get sustainable - they run out of fuel.
@iXenox
@iXenox 3 года назад
if you make a quad alternating version of that (in 2 and 2 opposite corners) it has a sustainable surplus
@rhysdenno5993
@rhysdenno5993 3 года назад
"I feel like the sun is never rising" ... "Alright, so the sun is rising"
@steeljawX
@steeljawX 3 года назад
It takes me back to "Shanghai Noon." To paraphrase, "The sun may rise where you come from, but here is where it sets." Ooooh, so you're in the Western part of your world.
@tinpony9424
@tinpony9424 3 года назад
Suggestion Move the chest below the oil level, add a second intake pump, single glass tube into the craftbot, second craftbot in series with the first one, output into fuel tank, double (minus one) the thrusters. This should effectively double everything except the large chest, the fuel tank and the glass tubing. Lighter overall weight per thruster.
@Closer2Zero
@Closer2Zero 3 года назад
This is a good idea. I’m sure there’s a mathematical cross section between pump, craft, and consumption times
@zed7038
@zed7038 3 года назад
He's using multiple glass tubes because realistically, a flyer that size wouldn't be able to get low enough to the oil pond.
@tinpony9424
@tinpony9424 3 года назад
@@zed7038 Understood. When I say a single glass tube, I mean two pumps on the chest, and one length of tubing out of the chest, into the first craftbot. That way, he doesn't need to run a second glass pipe up to the chest.
@zed7038
@zed7038 3 года назад
@@tinpony9424 Ye.
@spacewalk3046
@spacewalk3046 3 года назад
is the large chest bouyent?
@moroblizniak4457
@moroblizniak4457 3 года назад
Hey Kan, if You logic these thruster to be tap thrust (Scrapman did this in one of his video) It actually burn way less fuel.
@basedonwhat7094
@basedonwhat7094 3 года назад
it was the opposite result so it would burn more
@pikachuusepizzabolt8338
@pikachuusepizzabolt8338 3 года назад
Yeah i think it burnes more fuel
@Togla
@Togla 3 года назад
@@pikachuusepizzabolt8338 no
@Fifsson_
@Fifsson_ 3 года назад
@@pikachuusepizzabolt8338 it burns much less, watch carefully.
@_Ordinace_
@_Ordinace_ 3 года назад
It burnes a third of the fuel as normal but it also has a third of the thrust so it's basically just like lowering the thrust of the thruster
@AlexiaEvanias
@AlexiaEvanias 3 года назад
I just wanna say Merry Christmas Kan, you have helped me wanted to start building in scrap mechanic and I've also started to craft stuff irl like a gauntlet with legos, it's somehow holds up. Anyway thanks for the content my guy we all love you
@rileyjames2799
@rileyjames2799 3 года назад
This... this intrigues me
@Sothis9966
@Sothis9966 3 года назад
I think Scrapman once tested out that it would be less fuel consuming if you tick the thrusters with Logic so it doesn´t run all the time at full burst. Maybe thats the way it would work? Actually he tested that it actually is more fuel efficient!
@settheshallow8913
@settheshallow8913 3 года назад
I think using timers + 2 extra thrusters sould work best
@someoneme7057
@someoneme7057 3 года назад
It is worth testing. However I don't see it working. Thrusters take time to get up to full power.
@janwinkelmann8859
@janwinkelmann8859 3 года назад
I have a flyer like this ... it hovers for hours ... but if I boost to fly it burns the gas like nothing
@settheshallow8913
@settheshallow8913 3 года назад
@@someoneme7057 Timers are pretty adjustable, having long pulses that go off just as it peaks wouldn't be too hard
@Spargeltarzan49
@Spargeltarzan49 3 года назад
@@janwinkelmann8859 Ja Sure i habe one too but my Problem is to get it to hover ÷)
@wierdocat1313
@wierdocat1313 3 года назад
Merry Christmas
@-NGC-6302-
@-NGC-6302- 3 года назад
Yes
@LaPatateDouce
@LaPatateDouce 3 года назад
Merry christmas too
@yuanitaking8764
@yuanitaking8764 3 года назад
Yes
@battleboy0595
@battleboy0595 3 года назад
yes
@lazyrapter8543
@lazyrapter8543 3 года назад
If one craft bot is not enough then you can have 2 and in not two then ect... maybe he can cut down the thrusters, so have 4 craft bots 16? Thrusters and 3 pumps.
@ufukbasci6412
@ufukbasci6412 3 года назад
800 comp kits?
@lazyrapter8543
@lazyrapter8543 3 года назад
@@ufukbasci6412 he can create new world and cheat. He only needs to build it in theory. Plus stupid ideas are gonna need stupid amounts of things and requirements.
@stinkyrolo45
@stinkyrolo45 3 года назад
The more weight the more thrusters the more fuel consumption the more inefficient it is so it wouldn’t matter
@lazyrapter8543
@lazyrapter8543 3 года назад
@@stinkyrolo45 how would you know there be less pumps making it less truster needed. After all kon confirm there's more then enough oil. It just he did not maximize it.
@turrboenvy4612
@turrboenvy4612 3 года назад
@@lazyrapter8543 How many craft bots can one pump keep up with? You also need additional pipes and/or chests to feed oil to both/all craft bots.
@FallenVoid-
@FallenVoid- 3 года назад
Imagine if in the future we will be able to make a flying base and make it possible to plant crops on it
@anteshell
@anteshell 3 года назад
The exact moment the dirt patches are able to be planted on blocks or something else movable object, it would destroy the whole economy and make defences and bots completely pointless. That is unless they plan making very drastic gameplay changes which would alleviate those problems.
@sparklefluff
@sparklefluff 3 года назад
@@anteshell It's fun to be hopefull though.
@anteshell
@anteshell 3 года назад
@@sparklefluff I fully agree that somekind of system that would allow a movable, possibly even flyable bases, would make the game much more interesting. The current game economy would be destroyed by such thing but I also hope that they would work something out that would allow it.
@_Ordinace_
@_Ordinace_ 3 года назад
@@anteshell yeah if you could place dirt on blocks boone would make a defense because you could build a pilar out of warehouse keys and have your farm on top of it or have your farm on a car and just drive away from the robots, it would just make base defenses and stuff like that useless
@gustavoluigi8651
@gustavoluigi8651 3 года назад
Unless they new, flying, bots...
@adamshults9810
@adamshults9810 3 года назад
If you had one player fly, could a second person pick up a chest full of fuel?
@Spargeltarzan49
@Spargeltarzan49 3 года назад
Yeah but that would be verry dificult he die that in his series with kosmo
@_Grass_Block
@_Grass_Block 3 года назад
@@Spargeltarzan49 did you have a stroke?
@MrJoJI
@MrJoJI 3 года назад
Maybe an automated flyer that allows to replace chest in-flight
@Spargeltarzan49
@Spargeltarzan49 3 года назад
@@_Grass_Block no
@MrJoJI
@MrJoJI 3 года назад
@Technology Boy well no, there are already sensors and logic blocks in game if they could craft it and use a switch to turn on sensors = input switch and output = backup thruster while he exit the seat and switch the fuel tank of the main thrusters. And configure their fuel input and outputs.
@bonerbeats
@bonerbeats 3 года назад
You had me at flyer!
@unique-317
@unique-317 3 года назад
You could try adding more craftbots, though you would also have to make it much larger with much more thrusters
@tenix6698
@tenix6698 3 года назад
Yes, that might work because the oil slightly overfills
@kingofspades76
@kingofspades76 3 года назад
Nothing bad every happened when someone flew with thrusters that shoot out flames over a pond filled with oil aka very very easily inflammable liquid
@strangeyk1890
@strangeyk1890 3 года назад
next episode we will see warhammer 40k sized ships with this technique aha. love the content kAN
@sxveng3847
@sxveng3847 3 года назад
really creative idea there kan Merry Christmas eavry one 🎄💗
@cubaycubes7140
@cubaycubes7140 3 года назад
What if you have more craftbots? I know it will increase the weight, but you will also produce faster and that will make the canister and chest "less heavy". The problem I see is the pump not being good enough for 3 craft bots, but maybe with 2 bots and 2 pumps it could do the trick? Idk how the pipes would look like and probably still wouldn't be enough to hover sustainably, but it's an idea
@thedude4039
@thedude4039 3 года назад
Yeah but then how would you feed the output of the bots to the fuel canister? You would either need more canisters or more pipes. Same thing to feed the chest into the craftbots.
@Closer2Zero
@Closer2Zero 3 года назад
I wonder if there’s some mathematical intersection between pump speed, craft speed, and gas consumption that would, with enough pumps bots and thrusters, actually work. If so, it’d like be a metric ton of them and be a useless ship otherwise. Alternatively, you could build a flyer with a system to pit stop at oil pumping stations around the map and quick refuel. Have Pump stands dotted around the map fast enough to pump all the fuel you need during the time you spend at them loading the tile. So you could just fly around the map all you want making pit stops at various gas stations. Not as cool, but functionally the same or similar in the end
@spicy_taco2267
@spicy_taco2267 3 года назад
Cool vid
@qubek9116
@qubek9116 3 года назад
Nice video
@Novabeagle
@Novabeagle 3 года назад
Well done on 300k subs whooooooo.🥳🥳👏👏👏
@reemations872
@reemations872 3 года назад
hello happy Christmas
@TheZiiFamily
@TheZiiFamily 3 года назад
Merry scrapmas
@DeaconBirbSpy
@DeaconBirbSpy 3 года назад
hi kan! just installed Scrap mechanic! i am hyped!
@real_meow
@real_meow 3 года назад
Yay
@gondazsombor
@gondazsombor 3 года назад
Yapp, I had this idea too. I'm in the middle of gathering resources to try it.
@speedy6551
@speedy6551 3 года назад
Merry christmas
@kibo9676
@kibo9676 3 года назад
merry christmas to you kan
@oxibound5945
@oxibound5945 3 года назад
Kann!! Please make some more of this!! We miss survival!!
@onyx511
@onyx511 3 года назад
Could you make a giant walker base that could walk through water kinda of like that movie were all the cities are moving?
@nightshade897
@nightshade897 3 года назад
Mortal engine? Books are better :)
@Jamesdavey358
@Jamesdavey358 3 года назад
@@nightshade897 lol true
@caydenhoff8998
@caydenhoff8998 3 года назад
You could add blocks that float so it doesn’t touch the ground just the oil pond
@Seleenitee
@Seleenitee 3 года назад
And that would add more wate
@Seleenitee
@Seleenitee 3 года назад
And more fuel consumption
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 3 года назад
Honestly, is it even that important that you stay off the ground? I think a self fueling flyer would be good enough.
@danielplays3337
@danielplays3337 3 года назад
Merry Christmas kan
@davethefox06
@davethefox06 2 года назад
Sprayed coffee everywhere when you placed the craft bot the first time 😂😂
@magica3526
@magica3526 3 года назад
i'd love to see this tried with the wings mod and a helicopter, which i have to imagine would be more efficient
@scrapheap339
@scrapheap339 3 года назад
8:20 This is actually true for real rockets - most of the rocket fuel is there to lift the rest of the rocket fuel
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 3 года назад
can you elaborate?
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 3 года назад
@@therealestfortex Ouch, infinity-loops make brain hurty >.
@scrapheap339
@scrapheap339 3 года назад
@@therealestfortex couldnt have put it better myself
@rokaq5163
@rokaq5163 3 года назад
Try two Craftbots, 10 thrusters (8 at max, 2 at the second lowest intensity). Use two chests, and a single gas container for all the thrusters. Make it so all 8 "main" thrusters are perpetually on, while the remaining two "secondary" thrusters (the ones at a lower intensity) only turn on when a sensor detects that the flying machine is starting to sink in the oil pond. You reduced the average weight by effectively halving your containers, eliminating the need for vacuum tubes and also limited fuel consumption by not letting all thrusters stay on all the time. More materials are required, though, but that's a one-time inversion. Over time, the machine should be able to produce enough fuel to stay airborne and even have a slight excess that could be hypothetically used to move around autonomously for a short while.
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 3 года назад
Congrats kAN on 299K :D wait? Sorry no congrats yet
@seadragonet1738
@seadragonet1738 3 года назад
almost at 300k!
@PizzaMineKing
@PizzaMineKing 3 года назад
Hypothetically speaking: could you pull it off with two bots and just one chest/tank?
@DuxAT
@DuxAT 3 года назад
You`d need 2 pumps
@paveljurosko4817
@paveljurosko4817 3 года назад
Yeah, the more bots he adds the more efficient it gets. With 4 bots you save weight of 6 boxes. That might be enough
@DuxAT
@DuxAT 3 года назад
@@paveljurosko4817 but you need to connect them, and there isnt a t piece or something, wich means you need chests
@paveljurosko4817
@paveljurosko4817 3 года назад
Craft bots have 2 connectors on their sides, so you can make 1 long line?
@PizzaMineKing
@PizzaMineKing 3 года назад
@@paveljurosko4817 would probably not work, since the bots still need to take oil as input, not fuel...
@AhOkau
@AhOkau 3 года назад
Test if the two half thrusters are more efficient, try putting the middle one (the one opposite the low thrust thruster) so they match at like 4 thrust as it may be more efficient
@lukasdimmler2622
@lukasdimmler2622 3 года назад
You could minmax this design even more: Get more craftbots and more pumps. You need to match up the rates perfectly ( unlike right now were the rate of the pump is slightly higher.) You could use multiple craftbots with one chest to cut on the chests. I would be interested in what it would do without any of the tubing. You could also use multiple craftbots with one fuel container ( if that is possible). You would want to have all but one of your thrusters at max and the last one to balance it like you did. When you don't have thrusters at max you need more thrusters for the same force, but the thrusters weigh more and add an gravitational force against the thrusters.
@devoidemralek7918
@devoidemralek7918 3 года назад
Merry Christmas kAN
@outandabout259
@outandabout259 3 года назад
You can have 2 craftbots pull from 1 chest and double the fuel input, thrust and fuel consumption without doubling the weight so technically you should be able to make a flyer with multiple craftbots.
@mrdfarminglads374
@mrdfarminglads374 3 года назад
your the best scrap mechanic builder i know
@Neon_Orange56
@Neon_Orange56 3 года назад
Merry Christmas!
@theyeetus1428
@theyeetus1428 3 года назад
I wish the Sm devs could make it so that you can skip night by sleeping in a bed UNLESS there is a farmbot attack that night.
@_Grass_Block
@_Grass_Block 3 года назад
Yeah. Like you can in minecraft and some other games.
@aviation_fanOfficial
@aviation_fanOfficial Год назад
I hope survival returns, two years since upload
@ianhlady2270
@ianhlady2270 3 года назад
Downhill drill sledding plzz
@TheRealPauseacorn
@TheRealPauseacorn 3 года назад
Something that might be possible, is a system where you fly near a small station at an oil site, and it automatically refuels you. Like have a craftbot automatically creating fuel, but have no output chest, abd when you need gas, you fly your own fuel tank(s) near the output side of it. Not quite the same. But it should be relatively cheap to make, just use 1 pump, chest, craftbot, and a few verticle pipes at a preset location at an oil field, and you could just make multiple stations around the world.
@Salvanim
@Salvanim 3 года назад
If you separate the thrusters the force will be spread to a greater area meaning your other appliances will get the same amount of force as the craft bot, build it out of light materials as well will also help.
@mrmagic9756
@mrmagic9756 3 года назад
merry christmas and next time search container, you will be amazed
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890
@apersunthathasaridiculousl1890 3 года назад
The craftbot is a big boi
@danluckins4071
@danluckins4071 3 года назад
Here's a crazy yet awesome idea, You could build a flying base that would land with its pumps in an oil pond to refuel, and you could just have a few craftbots to quickly suck up the oil and refuel while your thrusters are off, and have enough tanks to fly for days, maybe have it on a logic powered system for hover at any height and stability, then you could just fly to wherever you need to harvest/farm/raid ect
@aviation_fanOfficial
@aviation_fanOfficial Год назад
Btw you could have a hover system and hover above a before placed refining platform so you don’t need to lug around the craftbot
@user-ud8zy2dv1k
@user-ud8zy2dv1k 3 года назад
i feel like the best solution to cut fuel consumption would be to shift the craft bot onto the oil and make a refueling station, like i believe another comment mentioned. it would probably allow the flyer to refuel at other locations with enough fuel stored, so you could have a car with excess fuel to park in between the start and end point of a journey to increase the range at which the flyer is usable. if the remote refuel needs that launching thing and precision, you could also add a auto tracking turret like the ones built in creative to increase the margin of error without extra fuel costs, as it is controller and logic powered. also, imagine if the oil could be set on fire by the thruster
@technofrankdk3195
@technofrankdk3195 3 года назад
the craft bot is a beefy boi :D
@botston
@botston 3 года назад
You should collab with Al magma
@TheZiiFamily
@TheZiiFamily 3 года назад
Ya 3 weeks later thats a good time to recommend this video to a subscriber
@turrboenvy4612
@turrboenvy4612 3 года назад
I am now envisioning a large floating platform tethered to a submerged/underground gas production facility. I wish you could craft small craftbots for mobile production of fuel and batteries.
@robertotewari2451
@robertotewari2451 3 года назад
That's nice u ain't solo all the time 👍
@bobthepizza555
@bobthepizza555 3 года назад
I think scale will do this numbers. With more craft bots and more thrusters I see it working
@_Ordinace_
@_Ordinace_ 3 года назад
Well a actually no, if a self sustaining system like this (self refueling) can't produce enough thrust to lift itself while not losing fuel adding another one of these onto it would double the thrust and fuel generation but it would also double the weight and fuel consumption of it, which would neutralize it meaning it would do absolutely nothing to help it
@ovencake523
@ovencake523 3 года назад
Is there any glitch you can do to slow the fall of the flyer? There anything you can do to to decrease the weight? Anything you can do to make the thrusters more fuel efficient? I think it might be possible with some kind of slow fall glitch but idk scrap mechanic glitches. Slowfall would make it more fuel efficient and give the craftbot time to produce the fuel
@steeljawX
@steeljawX 3 года назад
The problem I'm seeing initially is that you're getting the squared-cubed law in a sense. The squared-cubed law is the reason why animals can only be so big. If you square the general size of an animal the inside of it ends up actually being a cubed amount of mass. Why is this important? Animals need so much muscle and bone mass to hold themselves up, but that increases the weight, which increases the size, meaning more strength needs to be added; and thus the cycle never ends. My initial thoughts, back on track, are that a single maxed craftbot cannot craft fuel fast enough to keep it in flight, so you need multiple maxed craftbots to keep up, but that means you need more thrusters to compensate, meaning a greater fuel demand that requires more craftbots; and so on and so on. So you're in an impossible problem that can only be solved with potentially Scrap Mechanic game jank if there is something that janks this; but currently, the solution ends up becoming part of the problem.
@landonkim7837
@landonkim7837 3 года назад
I know this is late, but in the bored workshop hunters ep, "Crapman" is a good pun.😁
@BrianJ1962
@BrianJ1962 3 года назад
You have 1 of the 6 thrusters set to a lower power setting. Presumably this also lowers its consumption? Assuming this being the case, then in theory, you could lower the thrusters' power together, as a group, to get an optimal power to consumption ratio across the system?
@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi6655
@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi6655 3 года назад
Think about it, you're using a thruster on the second to lowest power. Set the thruster to max, and duplicate the whole setup twice. Remove the sixth thruster on the other two and connect everything. Six thrusters on one bot is just barely too much, so 5.6 thrusters per bot might give you the surplus you want. Eventually, even if you have to make a massive ship with 20 craftbots, it can work.
@thestignl1153
@thestignl1153 3 года назад
Please kAN, don’t stop your solo world! I really love the co-op series, but I enjoy you progressing in this world as well. If you want to experiment in Survival, just make a world with dev mode turned on :)
@AgentWest
@AgentWest 3 года назад
My best so far is about five minute hover VS about two minutes on just fuel reserves. However there is a bigger issue here. Even if gas is produced faster than it is used, the craft bots do not restart looped tasks after they run out of places to put things. So if your platform relies on four crafters and one pauses because his container is full then the whole thing falls since the fuel production is now cut by 25%. Unfortunately jets only pull fuel from canisters and canisters won't pull from chests, only other canisters.
@cheat_steve10
@cheat_steve10 3 года назад
With something like a double bearing glich you could seperate them. So you have a base and a flying platform
@1994Indyxlt
@1994Indyxlt 3 года назад
Hey Kan if you put the thrusters on a pulse the fule will last longer
@thedude4039
@thedude4039 3 года назад
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING LESS THRUST OUT OF IT!!! This is like saying "If you just don't fly at all, your fuel will never run out!". Well obviously. I want to fly though! I want to use my thrusters though!
@SonOfmowgef
@SonOfmowgef 3 года назад
Hey Kan if you and Scrapman want things to try in survival do the seat-less warehouse vehicle. In Scrapman's video about trolling Tapebots he discovered that they ignore you if their line of sight is blocked, unless you're in a seat, then they always attack. I tried it out in a video on my channel and it does work, makes warehouses super easy as well, because you're pretty much invisible to Tapebots. All I did was make a literal cardboard box with a few metal blocks so I could move it from inside with a hammer, but it should also work with a vehicle that has no seat and moves with buttons or sensors, something I believe you guys did previously on Multiplayer Monday.
@queenofgeese
@queenofgeese 3 года назад
i predict yes, craft bot can keep up, remember to use suspension glitch to move!
@zevgreen6132
@zevgreen6132 3 года назад
What if you used the remote control vehicle concept where you just had a pump, chest, craftbot and fuel storage at an oil pool that is connected to the thrusters on your flier? Wireless fuel transmission! WFT for short ;) This method also means you can have as many craft bots or whatever you need bc it's all on the ground while the flier is basically a separate entity.
@Tarzanchaos
@Tarzanchaos 3 года назад
You need to find out if the fuel use changes based on the power level equal to or greater than the amount a additional engine costs. If you can have 3-4 instead of 6 you might be able to make it work.
@Wheagg
@Wheagg 3 года назад
You could use a large chest to store fuel and then the fuel container could access that as backup, so in theory a large flyer could stay afloat for a long long time
@felixanderson7405
@felixanderson7405 3 года назад
I have a good idea! It lands on oil and floating when it make fuel
@doui5916
@doui5916 3 года назад
you should pulse the thrusters with logic to make it use less fuel
@RKadia
@RKadia 3 года назад
The build has a net force that is up so in theory if you basically duplicate the creation enough it will fly because every time you add another one of them then the lift increases even if it is by a small amount.
@koeneisenhut8277
@koeneisenhut8277 3 года назад
I think that if you added more craft bots and five extra max thrusters plus one level higher on the lowest one you might get double the thrust and just less than double the fuel cost
@Fishion761
@Fishion761 3 года назад
you can use the fuel consumption idea to make a base that is mobile and maybe you will dunk on bots
@jsasasaaaaa
@jsasasaaaaa 3 года назад
Hey kAN Merry Christmas . you should build a adjustable suspension vehicle with two seats for Kosmo and you in your co - op survival world
@justinbenton6906
@justinbenton6906 3 года назад
C. kAN needs to learn how to get through the gate of his base. Lol
@TheEightshot
@TheEightshot 3 года назад
Just a thought if you had a second craft bot you would still only need one fuel tank and one chest for both (even if you doubled the intakes) the weight is a diminishing return. The more craftbots the better the ratio.
@killrade4434
@killrade4434 3 года назад
You can use 2 craft bots with 12 thrusters. The issue is that 1 thruster but you can add 4 bots and 5 thruster per bot before you had to add a 6th thruster.
@kevinrhodes6066
@kevinrhodes6066 3 года назад
If you bring in number logic you could press a button and it goes to the nearest pond and refuels
@MuzafferKrkkalp-hu9xs
@MuzafferKrkkalp-hu9xs Год назад
Maybe you can off some of the thrusters then it will slowly go down just before it touches to ground activate extra thrust to go back up maybe this will work
@allhailoreo2436
@allhailoreo2436 3 года назад
What about a massive hellicarier type thing? It might be a bit laggy, but you can have several pumps and several craft bots. You just park on top of the oil and refuel every once in a while?
@doyoulikejapanesehistoryan8149
@doyoulikejapanesehistoryan8149 3 года назад
Yes the multiple slots to craft fuel since the oil keeps up
@ethanluce1773
@ethanluce1773 3 года назад
You should do a survival series with scrapman, moonbo, and kosmo
@mikereations668
@mikereations668 3 года назад
It seams that the only serious limitation is crafting speed, so if you were able to scale this up enough with multiple (probably at least 3) craft bots you might craft faster than consume. but that would probably be a lag machine.
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 3 года назад
you are forgetting about weight. Craftbots weight ALOT. . . adding more means 5 more thrusters per craftbot, which means more fuel consumption. So for something like 2 craftbots: while yes, you do get x2 the fuel, but it would also CONSUME x2 the fuel. . . making it redundant >.> (same math applies to 3 craftbots, only it would be x3 instead of x2)
@mikereations668
@mikereations668 3 года назад
@@Hadeks_Marow you very well could be right but i still see some wiggle room in the ratio. You m8ght be more efficient with more thrusters and weight and only need 9 thrusters for every 2 craftbots. In addition you could use a lighter material than wood. These little things may add up enough, but even they do at a large enough scale, the idea still seems impractal in every way
@Hadeks_Marow
@Hadeks_Marow 3 года назад
​@@mikereations668 He tested the minimum thrust in the video. He would have to boost the thrust of that to double for the middle rocket just to make up the difference, which would still consume fuel at twice the speed for that specific thruster. Most of the fuel cost comes from actually lifting the craftbots themselves, hence why he stated this design to not work to begin with. He made his design as compact as can be. Storage Containers and Fuel Containers both only have 2 ports. He is using both ports for the storage container, so other than the Fuel Container (which he only uses one port), he would literally need to double every single item just to hook up the automation. And that only works for x2 When you get to x3 you would need x3 of every item but x2 fuel containers. So even in your math of the slightest difference, x2 would be the most optimal it could even theoretically be, and that's without the driver seats and suspension glitches to make it a vehicle like he wants. It's just too minimal to be useful for the end goal of making a flyer.
@mikereations668
@mikereations668 3 года назад
@@Hadeks_Marow you are probably right. Im gonna go and test my theory anyway just to see if my small optimizations can achieve anything meaningfull at a large scale.
@asnodt42
@asnodt42 3 года назад
This can be done perfectly if we had a mod that adds like mini craftbots or something similar, same functions but way smaller and lighter.
@giacomo7063
@giacomo7063 3 года назад
Maybe you should just build like fuel stations in this way the flier can come pick up what the craftbot crafted and then fly away to another fuel station
@mrbeeznz5196
@mrbeeznz5196 3 года назад
Im not sure if you can take stuff from a chest fron one creation and into a chest onto another without welding. But you could offload the gas making process onto land sith mamy craft bots making the fuel and the just simply refueling normally but with pipes
@carterlevy4686
@carterlevy4686 3 года назад
you could change the pump to thruster ratio to eventually fly
@alexf3946
@alexf3946 3 года назад
I feel that scrap mechanic is so glitchy that you can make a suspension glitch flight
@navtajsooch7168
@navtajsooch7168 3 года назад
Please read this. You should use the small craft bot that comes with the stater ship that one is lighter so it is possible.
@alfiegreen8809
@alfiegreen8809 3 года назад
Could you try and make a tank that can drive on land and drive in water
@sovietonion1917_Official
@sovietonion1917_Official 3 года назад
Idea: use a logic repeater to spam the thrusters on and off (ask scrap man it’s more efficient he tried it) that way the craft bot can easily keep you flying! (Merry Christmas maybe make a Christmas tree? Or a Christmas themed car or make a car to start 2021 and so on for 2022 if your still playing!)
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