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Lamar Jackson agreed to a five-year, $260 million extension ($185 million guaranteed) with the Baltimore Ravens. This makes him the highest-paid player in the NFL with $52 million a year. The Ravens also got Lamar some help during the NFL Draft, selecting Boston College WR Zay Flowers at No. 22. The team also signed Odell Beckham Jr. a few weeks ago, which raises the question on whether Lamar is now out of excuses. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and David Helman debate whether the Ravens QB no longer has excuses or not.
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@SpeakOnFS1
@SpeakOnFS1 Год назад
Check out the What’s Wright? with Nick Wright podcast: sprtspod.fox/WhatsWright_YT
@rxrtranspo3637
@rxrtranspo3637 Год назад
Homie green lol && remind me of rg3
@mkfloyd5
@mkfloyd5 Год назад
Exactly
@mkfloyd5
@mkfloyd5 Год назад
@jmoney6043 no he isn't, he is a hater...why aren't they asking those qbs who have had the elite weapons around them why they haven't won a SB? Honestly, Lamar has accomplished wayyy more than Alken, Burrow and Herbert...he is one of only 2 UNANIMOUS MVPs in NFL history and has broken so many NFL records along the way. None of the other 3 have won an MVP and none have won a super bowl either. As Hall of Fame QB Steve Young has cintinuosly said, the Ravens were holding Lamar back and if he were in the right system Lamar would be the best player in NFL history!! I will listen to the HOF QB rather than Acho. Lamar will win a SB.
@kdbmore
@kdbmore Год назад
Joy to the World.
@hueyd2000
@hueyd2000 Год назад
For all the the negative history of NFL QB’s , you gonna come on here and talk like that as a black man in the USA. SMH, I feel pity for you .
@sundayikhuenbor7095
@sundayikhuenbor7095 Год назад
Acho is such a company man. 😂😂😂😂
@iamking_nell
@iamking_nell Год назад
Tap dancing like a MF
@icebergslim3743
@icebergslim3743 Год назад
Eggzzactly!😂😂😂😂
@Lowkey__Lee5
@Lowkey__Lee5 Год назад
Acho got cooked and all he could say was it sounds like excuses 😂 dude is outrageous
@Himskiii_the_3rd
@Himskiii_the_3rd Год назад
He’s just playing devils advocate, you have no show without it.
@fireball1566
@fireball1566 Год назад
Dude is a clown
@loaded730
@loaded730 Год назад
@@Himskiii_the_3rd exactly, he triggers everybody 😂 he makes the show
@Ramses_VII
@Ramses_VII Год назад
​@Dsg_Nigel_Uno but the ravens has dealt with covid for 2 consecutive seasons along with injuries to key positions the last 3.... that's not lamar's fault, people forget the ravens have been a good team with some major injuries EVERYWHERE
@lennybeason1110
@lennybeason1110 Год назад
@@Himskiii_the_3rd nah he just sounded stupid!
@Khali_Onwheels
@Khali_Onwheels Год назад
I see why acho didn’t play long in the league
@smujazzify
@smujazzify Год назад
Correct 😂🤦🏽‍♂️
@TheInterestedObserver
@TheInterestedObserver Год назад
Ravens need to stay healthy to have a chance, right now it is all just potential.
@357say
@357say Год назад
Nothing guaranteed. Ask Josh Allen and Joe Sparrows.😂
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 Год назад
Especially Ronnie Stanley! He's Lamar Jackson's blind side. Lamar had no worries when he had Marshall Yanda.
@AJCsr
@AJCsr Год назад
No potential in Acho being an asshoIe.! He's definitely one...
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 Год назад
@@seanswinton6242yanda played guard😂
@Z16N
@Z16N Год назад
Ain’t no way OBJ stays healthy all year or Bateman. Bateman has missed 2 seasons with injuries. Literally came in the league hurt. 😢
@IG.Lajet_
@IG.Lajet_ Год назад
Now Lamar got more help than any qb 🤣😂🤣🤣 man the narrative always changing
@akin242002
@akin242002 Год назад
Hurts argument destroyed anything he had to say moving forward. Allen getting Diggs too.
@royvalenzuela1662
@royvalenzuela1662 Год назад
Has more help than Mahomes had last year, but Mahomes elevated his players!
@lujones9961
@lujones9961 Год назад
@@royvalenzuela1662 you comparing Lamar to the probably one of the greatest QBs in history ? Who else you gonna bring up Brady ?😂😂
@PD-qu8dq
@PD-qu8dq Год назад
@@royvalenzuela1662 The Arguable Goat at Tight End and A great offensive coach, does wonders.
@midofmidlife
@midofmidlife Год назад
​@@PD-qu8dq exactly. People dont talk about scheme much with them. Players were left literally WIDE open in the superbowl...
@premieremontez
@premieremontez Год назад
AJ brown had a thousand yard season as a rookie a thousand yard season next year and made the pro bowl.. diggs had two thousand yard seasons before he went to buffalo wtf is ACHO TALKING ABOUT.
@bevelinternational7527
@bevelinternational7527 Год назад
He just has an ax to grind. In that same draft that they got Hollywood...a 5 9 wr 165...Metcalf went to Seattle and brown went to titans...imagine if ravens just had one of them instead... It's like a kid once they get a lil older...10 corny toys...thst works for an infant, but the Xbox ...just get the Xbox and that 11 year old doesn't care about the water gun, roller skates, nerf gun... I don't need 4 used cares...gimme one range rover
@lees5953
@lees5953 Год назад
Acho is that one friend you always get into with or fight.
@skillz9549
@skillz9549 Год назад
Facts… he’s the rich friend who no one can stand…
@Froreal59
@Froreal59 Год назад
True statement.
@RespectitorCheckit
@RespectitorCheckit Год назад
😂
@andrewswing9917
@andrewswing9917 Год назад
He's playing the "white man" role 😂 it's scripted.
@anthonyclark84
@anthonyclark84 Год назад
@@andrewswing9917 can’t take a “brotha” having a different opinion then you sheep.
@icebergslim3743
@icebergslim3743 Год назад
JOY KILLED IT ONCE AGAIN! Acho is definitely a house ninja😭😭
@beatpaddonlenbo9094
@beatpaddonlenbo9094 Год назад
Naw he’s just an African. He’s programmed to think AA make excuses.
@tswaggcodes5
@tswaggcodes5 Год назад
Facts. Bro is really out here because of his “word gymnastics “ 🤷🏾‍♂️
@effirsay2369
@effirsay2369 Год назад
Joy does not understand the business side of football. She doesn't understand NFL contract structures, and doesn't know how to compare contracts between players, and therefore has consistently misrepresented the negotiations with Lamar
@copolla67
@copolla67 Год назад
​@@effirsay2369 Lies....a bad one too
@nikeguy2
@nikeguy2 Год назад
@@effirsay2369 Joy wouldn’t even be at a desk if she wasn’t Jason Taylor’s sister and well endowed 😂. Every time she speaks, you see why she’s single and bounced around network to network….. Eventually, you get sick of that woman and wish she just sat there quiet and pretty.
@philiphemerlein3965
@philiphemerlein3965 Год назад
Shout out to joy, she needs her own show and acho proves that every take!!!!!!!!
@HardCold-Alquan
@HardCold-Alquan Год назад
Joy took Acho to school!
@Yungwalt
@Yungwalt Год назад
So let me get this right, after 5 years of Lamar being in his prime, they signed a 31 year old, coming off of 2 ACL surgeries, a bunch of other injuries, not playing football in a year and a half, then signed someone who hasn’t stepped foot on an NFL field, let alone developed yet, and now Lamar has no excuses..? Lmao. I knew the second he signed his (WELL DESERVED/ EARNED) contract, that the media was going to put every ounce of pressure on him. Should the ravens have success, yes. But, it only makes sense that the media keeps the same energy when it comes to always finding something to hold over Lamar’s head.
@robertschoelerman7496
@robertschoelerman7496 Год назад
Your a idiot yes it is on Lamar he wanted Odell and they drafted a receiver be a use no other great free agent receiver wants to play for the ravens be a use Lamar can't throw what has Lamar done to earn his contract get injured or be 1 and 3 in the playoffs that's on him
@akin242002
@akin242002 Год назад
I'd be worried if your QB's prime is at 25/26 years old. Prime should be 28-32 for star QBs.
@Yungwalt
@Yungwalt Год назад
@@akin242002 no, it’d be concerning if his prime was over by 25/26, which isn’t the case. Steph Curry has been in the NBA for 14 years, and still is at the top of his game. Being in the prime of your career doesn’t mean you are at a short peak that last a year or two.
@icebergslim3743
@icebergslim3743 Год назад
Nuttin but facts goose!
@akin242002
@akin242002 Год назад
@@Yungwalt NBA isn't the same as the NFL.
@IcentceionThomas-cl2dw
@IcentceionThomas-cl2dw Год назад
Acho need to be drug tested talking about Lamar had more help than anyone in league. Dude hilarious 😂😂😂
@FaceFamous
@FaceFamous Год назад
Exactly. What help??!!
@fireball1566
@fireball1566 Год назад
Dude egos outa control
@ryanlebard3787
@ryanlebard3787 Год назад
He means Ravens have drafted more weapons in the draft 1st round …, more than any other team since Lamar’s been there
@lwandilemsiza8027
@lwandilemsiza8027 Год назад
​@@ryanlebard3787 it's a rubbish take
@seanjones8892
@seanjones8892 Год назад
Yea he tweaking smh
@childress5000
@childress5000 Год назад
Does Acho get tired of being loud and wrong?
@kemwershabbaka4351
@kemwershabbaka4351 Год назад
Short answer, no.
@FaceFamous
@FaceFamous Год назад
Nope
@Cheema3
@Cheema3 Год назад
@@kemwershabbaka4351 Acho don’t believe in short answers though.
@rf5390
@rf5390 Год назад
That would be a good question, but he is sooooooo right.
@jeffm7145
@jeffm7145 Год назад
Acho was completely right.
@FreshmanFrenzy
@FreshmanFrenzy Год назад
He said no excuses, then He said maybe top 13, then he compared a TE albeit Mark Andrews to an All Pro WR Stephon Diggs 😭😭😭😭😭
@DRoyale1
@DRoyale1 Год назад
I would’ve preferred if the Ravens went and got DeAndre Hopkins, instead of OBJ…Joy absolutely flamed Acho, again.
@1onesix
@1onesix Год назад
Acho loves giving dumb takes smh
@DrPhill96
@DrPhill96 Год назад
That’s your rebuttal?
@1onesix
@1onesix Год назад
@@DrPhill96 the truth doesn't need a rebuttal
@DrPhill96
@DrPhill96 Год назад
@@1onesix - Your subjective truth!?! 😂
@dgfresh95
@dgfresh95 Год назад
@@DrPhill96 well his take was stupid lol look at 85% of the comments acho doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Dude played 1 &1/2 seasons and acts like he’s the best
@DrPhill96
@DrPhill96 Год назад
@@dgfresh95 - So you have to be a great and tenured player to know the game? Or you have to take what others say on message boards as gospel? You know they’re not players right (your logic)?
@laertignipeek
@laertignipeek Год назад
acho went from they gave him the best skill players in the league to his skill group is top 13. you know it’s bad today when everyone getting on him lol
@HardCold-Alquan
@HardCold-Alquan Год назад
Joy always comes with more thoughtful takes.
@10ronb
@10ronb Год назад
100%
@frankvigliotti6517
@frankvigliotti6517 Год назад
She sucks let’s be real lol
@JamesJones-rg2od
@JamesJones-rg2od Год назад
Her and slick Rick the only sane ones on the show and I love shady as a player
@josearanda8555
@josearanda8555 Год назад
No she dosent shes just gorgeous and thats why shes there the reality
@monochrome493
@monochrome493 Год назад
​​@@josearanda8555 You're Not bright
@yrvanmichel1446
@yrvanmichel1446 Год назад
Just.. thank god for Joy. Class while serving up everyone
@TheInterestedObserver
@TheInterestedObserver Год назад
Man they were all laughing during Acho's take, embarrassing.
@lujones9961
@lujones9961 Год назад
Cause it was dumb lmao
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 Год назад
It may have been the most cringe take I have ever seen on these types of shows. The producers are gross and Acho must be absolutely desperate.
@hassonianbadazz
@hassonianbadazz Год назад
I think he does it on purpose now. he used to have *ALL* fire takes.
@jayclemms8768
@jayclemms8768 Год назад
This is comical, this is Lamar first real year with weapons.
@Kcbudden
@Kcbudden Год назад
💯😈😈🖤🖤
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Год назад
So he had no real weapons his MVP season that had 11 probowlers that year?
@jayclemms8768
@jayclemms8768 Год назад
@@Speedyreedy1218 Mark Ingram and Mark Andrews are the only skilled positions players that made it that year.
@Speedyreedy1218
@Speedyreedy1218 Год назад
@@jayclemms8768 His FB, his lineman, and K (specialsts are weapons). Tucker has one TONS of close games for BAL in Lamar's tenure. Those are 98% of the time automatic points. So that's a pro bowl weapon).
@unclephantom8794
@unclephantom8794 Год назад
Thank God for Joy Taylor the only one on this panel that speaks with sense
@WesOnTheWorld
@WesOnTheWorld Год назад
And Shady. He’s always on point
@harrisoncrawford1051
@harrisoncrawford1051 Год назад
They should fire that talking magpie and let this be Joy's show
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 Год назад
@@harrisoncrawford1051so we can hear how black people are victims😭
@lakeemcook4293
@lakeemcook4293 Год назад
@@WesOnTheWorldnah he be straight capping 😂
@timbrown9796
@timbrown9796 Год назад
Yea Right lol
@marlymarlle
@marlymarlle Год назад
Acho is that friend who's opinion changes based on who comes into the room
@larrylandy9519
@larrylandy9519 Год назад
Acho has a personal problem with Lamar Jackson.
@tylerfarmer534
@tylerfarmer534 Год назад
I coulda died and gone to heaven when he said Greg Roman hasn’t been a weak link🤣
@Cristobal9414
@Cristobal9414 Год назад
Joy was cooking Acho this whole segment 😭😭
@gb3346
@gb3346 Год назад
What else could he want? What EVERY QB wants, a good O-line.
@kybernetic8
@kybernetic8 Год назад
He has a 1st round center that was touted as a generational talent at center, he had a hall of fame guard in Yanda his first 2-3 years. He has Stanley, who when healthy, is an all pro level tackle. Moses is a solid tackle. Zeitler is a solid guard. Bozeman was good, good enough to price himself out of Baltimore. He's had offensive line talent. Doesn't mean the O line has been spectacular, but the talent has been there.
@seanswinton6242
@seanswinton6242 Год назад
​@@kybernetic8 Also Stanley hasn't been healthy. Jackson had no worries with Yanda.
@alekgustafson6483
@alekgustafson6483 Год назад
our oline was ranked #2 last year lol
@bodymore23
@bodymore23 Год назад
He’s had a top 5 OL his whole career except 2021 when Stanley was hurt they was ranked 2nd last year he’s had Stanley all pro! Yanda all pro! Zeitler pro bowl! Brown JR pro bowl! Linderbaum all rookie....
@dougprishpreed7400
@dougprishpreed7400 Год назад
When his o line was dominant… he put up his MVP season. Just like hurts did this past season when he had the best o line in football. They all gloss over o line and it’s disappointing. Then even mention injuries and they gloss over the biggest one. Stanley was a top 3 LT and he has been injured constantly the past 2/3 years. The best QBs can make their pass catchers better far easier than they can block for themselves.
@abstraddic0442
@abstraddic0442 Год назад
I never ever heard LaMar use an excuse. That's crazy, it's always something with the media.
@Ali-wz9op
@Ali-wz9op Год назад
I love Joy . She’s killing em on this take.
@THELEOKNIGHT
@THELEOKNIGHT Год назад
Rooting for you Lamar🎉🎉🎉
@teddv
@teddv Год назад
Truth is he NEVER made any excuses, y'all did.
@TheShepdawg9
@TheShepdawg9 Год назад
Ya'lllllllllllllllllll. You should rap about it
@sixtynine2856
@sixtynine2856 Год назад
Lamar has been the most coddled QB in the media & by the fans I've seen since.. ever(?). You can trade him to the Chiefs and his fans will still make excuses for him. It's hard being a normal fan of his when nothing is his fault.
@bradleyh5240
@bradleyh5240 Год назад
Yes 100% true
@LanceVance81
@LanceVance81 Год назад
Acho wanted his own show but all people care about is the Rack of Joy
@DoeBoy681
@DoeBoy681 Год назад
I mean. That woman is absolutely fine.
@slimmike56
@slimmike56 Год назад
Its fantastic
@SlimeeDaOG
@SlimeeDaOG Год назад
@@DoeBoy681 and has the best takes, my kind of woman
@bgstv10001
@bgstv10001 Год назад
You need a girlfriend
@S2pidMedia
@S2pidMedia Год назад
@@SlimeeDaOG nah. She's a good looking girl, but her takes ain't that deep. She's an intelligent girl, and she 100% deserves her spot on TV, but she's not stellar. No hate, I genuinely like her, but she's mostly in the same league as dozens of men in her field. Pretty privilege is definitely in her favor.
@skills504
@skills504 Год назад
I love joy commentary 🔥
@kwasiaking1989
@kwasiaking1989 Год назад
Lamar Jackson, never made excuses. He’s stated facts. He’s had issues/complaints that were REASONABLY stated.
@johnbox271
@johnbox271 Год назад
It was fanatical fans that made these excuses.
@barelysoberpodcast7254
@barelysoberpodcast7254 Год назад
Joy really saving this show..
@drb5003
@drb5003 Год назад
The GOALPOSTS keeps moving everytime LAMAR does something right....$185 MILLION GUARANTEE WITHOUT AN AGENT... "UNBELIEVABLE"😮
@giffondhall9214
@giffondhall9214 Год назад
He sucks
@freshlyfe4400
@freshlyfe4400 Год назад
Exactly
@giffondhall9214
@giffondhall9214 Год назад
@@freshlyfe4400 the ravens will regret
@freshlyfe4400
@freshlyfe4400 Год назад
@@giffondhall9214 being contenders every year yea ok they will regret it lol
@freeindeed8416
@freeindeed8416 Год назад
Not at signing
@rebornlegend878
@rebornlegend878 Год назад
Lamar never had excuses, check his win percentage!
@00h8
@00h8 Год назад
What kind of nonsense no thought comment is this. I guess playoffs don't count.
@rebornlegend878
@rebornlegend878 Год назад
@@00h8 he still young af. Nobody said Peyton Manning had excuses for not going to the Super Bowl until his 9th or 10th year in the league so don’t do it to Lamar in his 5th
@DavidLee-vp3nr
@DavidLee-vp3nr Год назад
@@rebornlegend878 nobody is talking about super bowls... Just win a playoff game
@rebornlegend878
@rebornlegend878 Год назад
@@DavidLee-vp3nr he would have went deep last year if they paid him but they made him hold out 🤷🏾‍♂️. I like how in the NFL winning a playoff game makes you successful not a Championship.
@richporter40
@richporter40 Год назад
I don’t ever remember Lamar using any excuses all I’ve seen him do is win with the receivers around him in only win a MVP
@tikka300wsm5
@tikka300wsm5 Год назад
And just one playoff game. What a joke. 2 seasons didn't even finish.
@bigballer6666
@bigballer6666 Год назад
It’s his fanboys who constantly use excuses
@icebergslim3743
@icebergslim3743 Год назад
@@tikka300wsm5 …….u must’ve not been paying attention! Half the team was hurt since he’s been there. Also Greg Roman was horrible in the passing game. The offensive line was also trash up until last yr. Hater!
@KClouisville
@KClouisville Год назад
@@bigballer6666 ALL THE TIME. Forget having an agent....he has some people in the media acting as his agent 24-7 and his fan supporters as well. Any real or perceived criticism of the guy is viewed as some sort of thought crime. It's laughable.
@tikka300wsm5
@tikka300wsm5 Год назад
@Iceberg Slim if I had a dollar for all the excuses made for small time Jackson.
@michaelkirkland7954
@michaelkirkland7954 Год назад
Joy needs her on show she speaks truth ❤❤❤
@snarf0596
@snarf0596 Год назад
We don't know if flowers is going to be that guy. Ravens history of drafting wideouts has been abysmal. Not to mention if Bateman or Odell cant stay healthy we are back to where we are starting.
@Ahoniu
@Ahoniu Год назад
No excuses now.
@Fqq21
@Fqq21 Год назад
Bateman kinda nice when he is healthy
@judahchild2612
@judahchild2612 Год назад
@Bearza if bateman get hurt, if odell knee give out, if zay is a flop that’s on lamar 😂 how ?
@blockbullyrecords5417
@blockbullyrecords5417 Год назад
​@Bearza Stay off the coke guys a MVP money well spent peyton manning couldn't get to the playoffs in his first 5 years and he was older foh
@jefeseason4990
@jefeseason4990 Год назад
Yea it’s like we banking on flowers. The if the other receivers get injured we have a rookie as our leader
@romeou4965
@romeou4965 Год назад
Lamar never gave excuses. He made lemonade with the lemons he was given.
@CalobAdamsInfamous913
@CalobAdamsInfamous913 Год назад
Imma say yeah Lamar needs more success in the playoffs and to stay healthy but they have a tough division and conference. You could say this about a lot of people
@MrMenace3210
@MrMenace3210 Год назад
3/4 AFC divisions are tough now, whoever does not make will get cooked by the fanbase/media.
@jocool9130
@jocool9130 Год назад
​@@MrMenace3210 u would think.. But remember josh allen needs more help.. Justin has no defense... Etc. Etc... We know how the narratives can be manipulated
@MrMenace3210
@MrMenace3210 Год назад
@@jocool9130 That was more of a health issue... Bills and Chargers defense took early hits. Should be back now
@juniorlisius3865
@juniorlisius3865 Год назад
I bet they won’t say that about their golden boy in Justin Herbert!
@DuhCL0WN
@DuhCL0WN Год назад
@@juniorlisius3865 facts they still put Herbie over Trevor .. even tho Trevor with a worse team and a year younger beat Herbie in season and Playoffs
@kalblack859
@kalblack859 Год назад
When did Lamar ever make excuses out of his mouth or social media?
@BokeemWoodbeezy
@BokeemWoodbeezy Год назад
They drafted Duvernay, Bateman, and Hollywood Brown. Ravens have tried. No one can stay healthy. That’s their only issue.
@fightanddebate2682
@fightanddebate2682 Год назад
Good thing we fired our conditioning guy
@crownest2818
@crownest2818 Год назад
Yeah cause he took the NFL saying to heart, it stands for Not For Long so enjoy these great games while we can
@Sincereorsin
@Sincereorsin Год назад
Wow!!! Just crazy how the narrative & the goal posts keeps changing for Lamar smh… Just crazy!!!!
@michaeldennis5382
@michaeldennis5382 Год назад
This is why I love Joy....what excuses? This is a team game.
@icecoldfunktrain
@icecoldfunktrain Год назад
I’m just here for Joy sometimes 25
@Mj-uz1ng
@Mj-uz1ng Год назад
Fr
@drowe2463
@drowe2463 Год назад
I’m never here for 25
@leetraviusmckay2919
@leetraviusmckay2919 Год назад
Lamar finna show why he was the MVP in 2019-20 season
@Tewche
@Tewche Год назад
Can't wait. I'm excited for this season
@danielgalan1920
@danielgalan1920 Год назад
All this contract talk just showed an MVP in ‘19 doesn’t mean anything today, especially after your play has declined last couple years. Ravens should’ve extended him 2 yes ago
@JV-NY987
@JV-NY987 Год назад
He aint finna do nothing but get hurt....hate to break it to ya
@kevingallagher2386
@kevingallagher2386 Год назад
If he can stay healthy he'll be good
@user-md8hx1ld8e
@user-md8hx1ld8e Год назад
@@danielgalan1920 means enough for him to be the 2nd highest paid player
@Jay-fg8yb
@Jay-fg8yb Год назад
No excuses for Herbert', Burrow, Allen & Lawrence, no excuses!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Ohio-pq3ld
@Ohio-pq3ld Год назад
People have been making the weapons excuse for Lamar, now they can’t do that
@Jay-fg8yb
@Jay-fg8yb Год назад
Those weren't excuses, people were just stating the obvious..what is Josh without Diggs, Davis & Pro bowler Dawson Knox, no what burrow without Higgins ,Chase & the acc all time leading wr Tyler Boyld?????
@Jay-fg8yb
@Jay-fg8yb Год назад
@@Ohio-pq3ld no excuses?????
@Ohio-pq3ld
@Ohio-pq3ld Год назад
@@Jay-fg8yb How would Lamar look with a bottom 3 o line like burrow has had his whole career??
@Ohio-pq3ld
@Ohio-pq3ld Год назад
@@Jay-fg8yb now Lamar meat riders don’t have excuses, Greg Roman is gone, you got JK, Odell, 2 first round WRs, a top 3 TE and a good o line. So Lamar is in a great situation no excuses
@Black1Rob_
@Black1Rob_ Год назад
When it comes to LJ#8, the main thing people are forgetting is that the offensive scheme plays a huge role as well. Yes, injuries hindered the Ravens. But it was 1 major factor that hurt the Ravens. 1. Their scheme - Greg Roman, the OC, installed a run heavy scheme. Yes, because of LJ's running ability. But also because the Ravens always had a strong run game. I've heard numerous people say that the reason the OC installed that offense is because the organization didn't trust LJ's throwing ability. But who was he throwing to? Mark Andrews was, and has been his best receiver. AND HE'S A TIGHTEND!!! What if Greg Roman didn't feel he had the talent at the WR position? Yes, it is the QB's job to make the other players better. But, you as an OC, have to scheme plays to get the ball in your best players/ playmakers hands. Hence the reason the offense relied solely on LJ and Mark Andrews. is it LJ's fault that some draft picks didn't pan out? No. All LJ did was win with the talent that he was surrounded with.
@robertschoelerman7496
@robertschoelerman7496 Год назад
1 and 3 in the playoffs is not winning the ravens had holly wood brown who was a great receiver and holly wood brown left the ravens because Lamar couldn't get him the ball that's why the ravens can't sign big name receivers unless they are past there prime or injured because he can't throw
@gew2027
@gew2027 Год назад
No way the Chiefs and Bengals beat the Ravens when Lamar got help. MVP Lamar
@ryanlebard3787
@ryanlebard3787 Год назад
@G EW… Ravens got the Bengals number and chiefs got the Ravens …, lol let the Ravens knock out the Bengals that’s fine with chiefs
@zaniya716
@zaniya716 Год назад
​@Robert Schoelerman Lamar is 45-16 only Patrick Mahomes wins more. Hollywood had over 1000 yds receiving, could've had more if not for big drops and diving in the dirt after catches his last year with the ravens. What are you typing about?😂
@Black1Rob_
@Black1Rob_ Год назад
@Robert Schoelerman Hollywood Brown? What did he do with Arizona? With LJ, he had a 1,000 yrd season. And should we talk about his drops?
@tamaraallen215
@tamaraallen215 Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Joy was on ONE today, reading the dif goalposts for “some” qbs versus others!
@djennings9304
@djennings9304 Год назад
Shady with another classic. Shady: Fix Ta Face, Fix ya face🤪🤣🤣🤣
@SS-Tommy
@SS-Tommy Год назад
I don’t think Lamar ever made an excuse.
@b-dub64good68
@b-dub64good68 Год назад
That’s right Joy, keep them honest. All that sounds good except Lamar hasn’t had any wide receivers to throw to , not any top tier receivers anyway! They always move the goal post when it’s Lamar’s turn for everything. Lamar should have had this help five years ago. But everyone was so at aww of what Lamar was doing on his own, that they forgot to get him some help! And that’s putting it nicely!!
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 Год назад
how many times they gotta draft a first round wr. ravens fans be like “lamar needs help” the ravens draft a wr and the ravens fans say “its not enough” thats how u know hes not top 5
@michaelnance8917
@michaelnance8917 Год назад
@@jaysonsmith7264 when are they going to DEVELOP them name me 1 wr Baltimore EVER developed ?
@DoeBoy681
@DoeBoy681 Год назад
How many times are they going to waste a 1st or 2nd round pick on a WR when they can’t develop them. Instead of hoarding that draft capital, trade for a proven WR with that 1st or 2nd and then draft to their strengths. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result
@jaysonsmith7264
@jaysonsmith7264 Год назад
@@michaelnance8917 maybe they need a good qb. u wouldve thought the ravens learned from giving joe flacco the biggest contract at the time😂
@michaelnance8917
@michaelnance8917 Год назад
@@jaysonsmith7264 or maybe they need to develop the WRs like name at least 1 receiver that Baltimore drafted that went off to be a star in the league even with another team ? I’ll wait and I’m talking from 96 all the way till now just name me one
@maqsudlatif3266
@maqsudlatif3266 Год назад
Giving excuses while saying they're not excuses 😂😂
@thebookofnige7855
@thebookofnige7855 Год назад
They’re not excuses doe it’s the reality. Lamar hasn’t had healthy help, he’s had either Bateman or Mark Andrews they rarely shared the field together. His oline also sucks. Nd dobbins is never healthy either. So dey bring in Odell who hasn’t played a full season in how long ??? And an unproven rookie. That is the reality of it nothing more nothing less. If it works I think we do see Lamar nd da ravens making a deep playoff run
@maqsudlatif3266
@maqsudlatif3266 Год назад
@@thebookofnige7855 funny how you failed to mention how Lamar hasn't finished the last 2 seasons either 😂 Ravens almost beat Joe Burrow in the playoffs without Lamar 🤷
@Kcbudden
@Kcbudden Год назад
@@maqsudlatif3266 Bungles are overrated
@jocool9130
@jocool9130 Год назад
It has not been 2 days... And the blitz across all platforms has started... WE TRIED REALLY HARD TO STOP HIM GETTING THE MONEY.. now unless he wins 2 superbowls by october we call him a bust... 😂😂😂😂 They really hate the young man.
@LouisWinthorpe3
@LouisWinthorpe3 Год назад
He's been out of excuses for some time. But don't worry, they will still flow. This is his third 1st round WR in four years. When this one works out like Hollywood Brown did and OBJ tops at 500 yards we'll hear about how Beckham was over the hill and injured and you can't expect rookies to produce, all the same excuses we've heard every other time. It will be hilarious if the Antonio Brown rumors are true and he ends up on Ravens as well...
@elitemidrange
@elitemidrange Год назад
Stop it bro 😂😂 do you think that just because a receiver is drafted in the first round it means they are good? It is possible that they are drafting/ bringing in the wrong receivers? Hollywood was solid but dropped passes, Bateman is injury prone, but is also solid, Devin Duvernay is a decent slot guy, and Odell isn’t who he once was.
@LouisWinthorpe3
@LouisWinthorpe3 Год назад
@@elitemidrange Of course not. There are more 1st and 2nd round WR busts than at any other position. But the complaints that they never get him anyone are garbage, three 1st round WRs in four years? They have gotten him players. The only common factor of all the WRs coming to the Ravens and not working out is the QB. Hollywood was a 1,000 WR and on his way to doing it again in AZ before injury. Bateman injury prone? Pretty sure he had one big injury that killed a season, that's a long way off from injury prone. And there it is, the OBJ excuses already locked and loaded.
@elitemidrange
@elitemidrange Год назад
@@LouisWinthorpe3 I never said that they didn’t get him anyone. I said that it’s very possible they are getting the WRONG people. What difference does it make how many players they get him if they are the wrong players, if I shoot a gun ten times and miss the target every time, it doesn’t matter how many times I shot, because I shot wrong every time. Hollywood was solid, personally I think underrated because of the focus on his drops but was limited because of his size, and is a number 2 receiver not a 1, Bateman has missed a lot of games already, dude was coming off of an injury entering the league and has had once since, and Duvernay is decent, but according to your logic that’s all Lamar’s fault apparently. My argument is to the people who are acting like Lamar has this star studded roster, which he doesn’t. What excuse did I make for Lamar concerning Odell? I simply said Odell is a solid, but older injury prone receiver, which is exactly what he is. 🤷🏿‍♂️
@Teeyyy01
@Teeyyy01 Год назад
Acho gets on tv and says anything
@gavinporter1042
@gavinporter1042 Год назад
I really wanna know who was like ya acho that’s the guy we wana put on tv everyday
@MilesBrownRoyalty
@MilesBrownRoyalty Год назад
Great WR's are great even with bad QB's. This has been proven time and time again. So if a WR can't show he's great, it's not because of the QB. Now a QB can help make him better, but a QB can't give him WR1 ability.
@nikeguy2
@nikeguy2 Год назад
Great QBs are still great with bad receivers. It goes vice versa. No excuses.
@MilesBrownRoyalty
@MilesBrownRoyalty Год назад
@@nikeguy2 HE'S BEEN GREAT. That's why he won an MVP and why only Mahomes wins more than him and why he got this contract.
@nikeguy2
@nikeguy2 Год назад
@@MilesBrownRoyalty He won an MVP because he had 1000+ yards rushing as a QB. Who cares about regular season wins? Aaron Rodgers? 😂
@MilesBrownRoyalty
@MilesBrownRoyalty Год назад
@nikeguy2 what about leading the NFL in touchdown passes? Just gonna forget about that part? 36 TD and only 6 INT. He was the MVP because he is a great player.
@nikeguy2
@nikeguy2 Год назад
@@MilesBrownRoyalty Oh I forgot, that old cliche Lamar Jackson fan mantra. You’re talking about the MVP year where he led the league in TD’s but was in the bottom 32 for every other QB statistic….. like I said, take those rushing yards away and he doesn’t win the MVP. You’re right, he is a great player. Just a below average QB. I can’t wait to hear you all make excuses and blame Zay Flowers, OBJ and Bateman this season.
@michaellaughery6411
@michaellaughery6411 Год назад
Lamar has been out of excuses he has one of the best regular season record but can’t win with the same team in the playoffs
@gb3346
@gb3346 Год назад
When talking about the success of a QB or team, most people leave out the most important part, and that's the offensive and defensive lines
@freeindeed8416
@freeindeed8416 Год назад
Ravens are good on both lines
@Kcbudden
@Kcbudden Год назад
@@freeindeed8416 now they are
@troythompsonjr.740
@troythompsonjr.740 Год назад
No way Acho watches football 🤣🤣🤣
@KwameFilms
@KwameFilms Год назад
I always felt like Marcellus brought out the best in Acho..
@frisbeetarian34
@frisbeetarian34 Год назад
Acho is talking by far the most sense
@o4tw382
@o4tw382 9 месяцев назад
I never hear players make excuses it’s always the MEDIA and FANS
@1971blonde
@1971blonde Год назад
Just because Patrick Mahomes was hitting Zay right between the numbers doesn’t mean that Lamar can. What WR has made bank having Lamar as his QB?
@tyetoowavy4040
@tyetoowavy4040 Год назад
D1 meatglazing hater
@alexlewis5068
@alexlewis5068 Год назад
What wr left Lamar and made bank?
@KELAY24836
@KELAY24836 Год назад
What Wr has he had? Any all pros?? Any pro bowlers??? He won a unanimous mvp led the league in touchdown passes with mark andrews as top target.
@hzh0847
@hzh0847 Год назад
Can’t grow as a passer if the oc runs 60% of the time
@freeindeed8416
@freeindeed8416 Год назад
They don’t have that oc
@onebreeze6555
@onebreeze6555 Год назад
Man Acho got told on his own show. Lamar has never given into excuses, he has only praised everyone he’s ever played with. Going back to Louisville. I’ve watched Lamar since his first year at UofL. This kid has never had a dynamic receiver. He has always just made do. I am excited to see his opportunity with a solid receiving core. He deserves it to put to rest the “Lamar can’t throw” crowd.
@anhtannguyen5577
@anhtannguyen5577 Год назад
What’s the excuse for a pathetic 68.3 passer rating and only 3tds, 1-3 record in playoffs??? If you’re the highest paid player, you got make the wrs better, not the other way around
@leroyjohnson22
@leroyjohnson22 Год назад
Acho's ridiculous 4real! #1 HATER! He ought to be ashamed of Himself
@icebergslim3743
@icebergslim3743 Год назад
Facts!
@Carters2Cents
@Carters2Cents Год назад
(Facts Over Feelings) The Joy Taylor Show 🤔
@SoundsLikeKay
@SoundsLikeKay Год назад
This is one of better segments I’ve seen.
@flycast4224
@flycast4224 Год назад
Danial Jones found a way to make it to the playoff with a PR and 3 guys on the practice squad.. but funny how he never gets praise or excuses
@Gabeereps
@Gabeereps Год назад
Acho is the only one actually trying to be logically consistent here. If Lamar is to be held to the same standard other good-great QBs are & if you know you’ve bashed & challenged other QBs for not gettin far in the playoffs then he has to start catching that heat as well period.
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 Год назад
He’s the most slandered Qb lol
@slimmike56
@slimmike56 Год назад
@@Finnissee0122 no tf he aint lol DAK def catch more heat overall
@zerotolerance5019
@zerotolerance5019 Год назад
He's mad because Lamar didn't have to pay an agent fee to Stein, Steinbeck, Steinburg ,Weiss,Nuttakinburg ,etc...
@Finnissee0122
@Finnissee0122 Год назад
@@slimmike56 nah LJ gets it worst. Dak just underachieves. Ppl have discredited everything about Lamar’s game since day 1.
@blockbullyrecords5417
@blockbullyrecords5417 Год назад
​@@slimmike56 Bruh dak stats aren't close to lamar jacksons and pamar has done it with an o line ranked 25th in the pass the last 5 yrs thats a yr before lamar even came dang you whitewashed 😂😂😂
@anthonyblakely399
@anthonyblakely399 Год назад
This program has gotten a lot of people's attention including me.....because of the arguments and resolutions that are expressed on the program between top analysts: Joy(who I love to death), Acho(who is the man...great to see a Black man with great intelligence), Shady( The Dude, The Stud....who speaks his opinion and so typically young but savy) and Dave( who along with Joy....I love to death...many times he and Joy are the voices of reason) Just good honest Theater..and many conversations and arguments that they fans are having...you know.....I am so Blessed to live to see this show mature and come into it's own style!!! Great job Everybody!!!!
@jayseaborg3895
@jayseaborg3895 Год назад
Find a clip ANYWHERE of Jackson making excuses. In fact, he does just the opposite, takes blame on himself for losses, praises teammates in wins, etc. These are the same idiots who keep saying he can't pass from the pocket when in fact he has one of the highest pocket ratings of any QB.
@yaboi9191
@yaboi9191 Год назад
The original cast is back love y'all
@yannstone01
@yannstone01 Год назад
Sheesh, people, y’all gotta chill. So he’s supposed to win it all every year huh??? It’s a team sport, everyone gotta play their part. Let the kid play. Did Payton manning win every year??? Dan Marino ?????? Aaron Rodgers????? But y’all praise them like crazy and still hate on Lamar. Pitiful
@bcamm3100
@bcamm3100 Год назад
Man they moving the goal post again..
@josephmartinez4975
@josephmartinez4975 Год назад
And Manning was criticized every year for being one and done. Rodgers is criticized for always losing in title games. No one hates on Lamar. All I see is a ton of praising for Lamar, but dude shrinks in the playoffs.
@yannstone01
@yannstone01 Год назад
@@josephmartinez4975 he gets more hate than praise. When folks say he should be a WR instead of a qb. He only gets praise from people who believe in him. And when he plays badly it shows and he’s told. But it’s a constant thing where folks be coming at him . Give dude a chance he ain’t even played 10 seasons yet!!!!!!!!! And y’all act like the new guys they got gon really produce! Outside of OBJ who needs to prove himself (just because of being off due to injuries) it’s not a à for sure thing that they’ll win it all. Everyone must play their part period!!
@FaceFamous
@FaceFamous Год назад
​@@yannstone01preach. They act like Lamar for to do it by himself
@normanhopsonjr6555
@normanhopsonjr6555 Год назад
But he is asking for money like he wins every year
@BigDave113100
@BigDave113100 Год назад
Lamar remains the most babied and protected person by the media 😂😂
@zerotolerance5019
@zerotolerance5019 Год назад
And.....its about time that it's not Brady ,Rodgers,Manning,Brees , or anyone else of that shade 🤫
@fireball1566
@fireball1566 Год назад
@@zerotolerance5019 👍🏻
@maryj1156
@maryj1156 Год назад
Not Rodgers, Allen, Prescot, HERBERT?
@blackbolt3423
@blackbolt3423 Год назад
I’m trying , but I just can’t understand Achos point
@jeffreysandidge7340
@jeffreysandidge7340 Год назад
Thank you, Joy, I appreciate your commentary. It's amazing how people look for something negative to say about Lamar.
@scavara
@scavara Год назад
No excuses for him, he got receivers and he got payed a big time money. Time to make or break.
@j_the_don5160
@j_the_don5160 Год назад
He got a rookie, a dude who’s been on 4 different teams in 4 years, and a 30 year old that missed last season cause of a torn ACL. Relax.
@scavara
@scavara Год назад
@@j_the_don5160 Mahomes has Kelce and who? Stop the cap, Lamar has enough to compete with the other teams.
@navar20
@navar20 Год назад
​@@scavara this Year? Maybe?
@j_the_don5160
@j_the_don5160 Год назад
@@scavara and we praise Mahomes for that 🤨 also objectively Mahomes had better talent as a receiving core last year. Mark Andrews was his best receiver and he’s not in the same conversation as Travis Kelce. All I’m saying is stop talking like this is now a top 5-10 receiving core. Mahomes is the best QB in the league and is possibly top 3 all time. Again. Relax.
@scavara
@scavara Год назад
@@j_the_don5160 Then Mahomes won the SB with top 20 receiving core. Stop embarassing yourself.
@mitchellmercurio676
@mitchellmercurio676 Год назад
joy always on point
@dantealexander57
@dantealexander57 Год назад
That Acho dude has no excuses for saying all the ridiculous stuff he was saying. As a Ravens fan Im glad they're giving Lamar some weapons. But at this point we don't know what we have. It may look good on paper but there are still a lot of question marks. Health, player availability, rookie play first yr in the league. It's like Joy says, Lamar is the only QB held to this extremely high standard.
@DaKidGowie
@DaKidGowie Год назад
When it's 3 against 1, you know you're being illogical. Give up the Lamar Jackson hate, Acho. 😂
@noirmanoir1061
@noirmanoir1061 Год назад
Joy has come a long way. She's an expert analyst now.
@andylam4350
@andylam4350 Год назад
according to who? you?
@dennisking7848
@dennisking7848 Год назад
​@@andylam4350exactly!!
@noirmanoir1061
@noirmanoir1061 Год назад
@@andylam4350 well she's as good as the people she is sitting with and they are considered experts so im going based on that
@ravenswin16
@ravenswin16 Год назад
Joy looks stunning today. ❤❤
@slimmike56
@slimmike56 Год назад
*everyday 💜💜
@00h8
@00h8 Год назад
Come on Joy. You've given the most excuses for Lamar how many times you gonna bring up his individual success? At the end of the season they still gonna say they he didnt really have wrs. One 1st round rookie and a broken odel.
@antwanalston4773
@antwanalston4773 Год назад
Acho is unbelievable
@WordsMatter1982
@WordsMatter1982 Год назад
There are no excuses for most of these qbs, so it is what it is. They gave him more talent, got him a new OC, added Roquan, drafted a stud safety last year. Even if you want to give him an excuse from the past, the excuses are done GOING FORWARD! Lamar can't get the "Boy the Ravens would've beaten Cincy with Lamar" stuff, and then not expect them to go far if he's playing.
@Hail2daChief
@Hail2daChief Год назад
Neither Roquan nor that safety plays offense… that doesn’t help Lamar nobody ever said the ravens need more defense
@reignsupreme7686
@reignsupreme7686 Год назад
@@Hail2daChief wow BINGO
@hartjohn9292
@hartjohn9292 Год назад
Hands down the best sports show out rt now.
@insidethesquaredcirclewith9797
IMAGINE SAYING LAMAR MADE EXCUSES WHILE ALSO ADMITTING HE NEVER HAD WRS
@lostboyhusky290
@lostboyhusky290 Год назад
Acho that one friend that don’t get the link up text
@stevenclark7453
@stevenclark7453 Год назад
This was a good debate tbh
@SoFlyBmOr3
@SoFlyBmOr3 Год назад
Joy Taylor needs her own show she's amazing
@ADL21
@ADL21 Год назад
Lamar only turned the fortunes of a franchise around and became one of the best players in the NFL. What excuses are we talking about? There's nothing to excuse for Lamar, he's bar none the best Ravens player. The excuses all lie on the Ravens front office. They took those failures and turned them into a blockbuster offseason. The best player on the team has talent to help him get even better and hopefully a scheme to maximize his passing skillset along with his phenomenal running skill set.
@normanhopsonjr6555
@normanhopsonjr6555 Год назад
But they won a Superbowl without Lamar
@seanhenderson2498
@seanhenderson2498 Год назад
I feel like EDC should still go after DHop. Zay Flowers is a nice addition and will be good now and in the future but adding DHop will be an immediate impact we need come playoff time. D Hop could be that big catch guy for Lamar in those key situations. I don’t think we will get DHop, but Decosta shouldn’t stop.
@WoahThereNow
@WoahThereNow Год назад
I’m with Acho. They gave Lamar everything. No excuses now.
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