Is the NEW 2023 Honda CR-V a better SUV to buy than a Mazda CX-5? 

THX!!!

I just came looking for this update. Ha! Thanks!

So does that mean they probably won’t be available for purchase until fall or early winter, instead of late summer like they stated earlier huh?

@@kristine2601 Honda has one of, if not the lowest inventory out of car manufacturers right now. I'd say release is likely to be pushed back, and if it isnt... good luck finding one, or an affordable one at that.

Does that mean Honda is not confident on it's performance?.still fine tuning something related to performance and road/wind noise etc?

I think it's because of trends, kinda like when fashion people design new clothing "Oh, this season this is what's in 🧐" So everyone goes according to what's in and they just adapt it to their design language 🤔

All the CEOs of these car companies have a Jeffrey Epstein connection. I wouldn’t be surprised.

No one can think outside their little minds anymore 😹 no 1🤯😳😲😬🤣😂😅😆😁

Planned obsolecence

Just dont buy an Iphone and youll be good

Not even any cigarette style power outlets.... What a shame.

Just run a cable from front to back. Not sure why people don’t mention it. Improvise, and problem solve. Not an insurmountable issue people.

More than a touch more luxurious, the CRV seems more practical in terms of space and mpgs but cx5 is still better interior and performance wise

@@qnzman578 Absolutely

Would stick with the CX-5 unless you need the larger cargo area in my mind.

@@digitaldoc100 yes I agree the cargo area is where to he crv has one up on the cx5

The one shown here is the base trim I believe, the Bose does exist but only in the touring model

August 30th has ended, and no video...

True! They don’t seem to be able to design a vehicle without taking design elements from Mazda, either.

CX-5 is one of the best designs I’ve ever seen

🥴 😂

I personally feel this looks better minus the rear tail lights

I so agree with you. CX-5 looks much better even though the design has not changed mich for some years. Mazda design philosophy is a big plus for that brand. I own a Mazda 6 2015, and still think that car looks gorgeous 😊

Even my 2022 RDX has halogen rear turn signals and that is freaking Acura. You can replace it with aftermarket led bulbs but it would have been nice if it comes led from factory.

Saving production costs i see. Look at the rims ( reminded me Mitsubishi ) , sharing from civic , hr - v parts in the interior. Times are getting tough for some vehicle manufacturers too ! Sad part is , they downgrade their vehicles but , not the price ! Now , that " fad " of keeping the plastic cladding and bumpers unpainted just cheapens and makes vehicles look bad.

There’s more cost cutting in this for sure, with no phone charging in the back and a ton of hard plastic all around. I’m guessing the hybrid touring will actually be nice with better materials and leather and full digital gauge cluster etc, because the 2022 touring looked real nice on the inside for what it was.

Yes LED lights are newer than halogens. Does that make them better? No. Halogens are so cheap and easy to replace and don’t blind people

Remember, Honda also increased the cost of the Civic Si here in America while stripping it of features that we had last generation (heated seats, fog lights, dual zone, shift lights). Honda is probably cost cutting for bigger profit margins but in the case of the Civic Si, I imagine that they stripped it of features to make the Integra more appealing. As for this CRV, it sounds like pure cost cutting

Correct!!! I have a 2022 Touring in Platinum White and I think its a class act. I know that the new one has some technical upgrades but I’ll absolutely keep mine until the wheels fall off. The new one looks like a Chevy Traverse??? I think Honda dropped the ball on this one, it’s definitely a step back, I also love the chrome strip under the doors on both sides. I think Honda went too conservatively, just my .02, thanks

The lack of features, on the higher trim levels especially, is the most frustrating thing for me about this new CR-V. The current Accord had better features back 2018, and now the 2023 CR-V can't have these features? Even the Sport Touring is barely an upper-mid level trim compared to the competition in terms of feature set. Honda better not expect top dollar for this.

@@panzer_TZ exactly!!!

I'm pretty sure this will get a phev as top trim like the rav4

Honda CRV never had a panoramic sunroof and cooled seats.

Yes

@@2004cyrus What's the new embargo date?

I wouldn’t. I strayed from 5 Hondas and into a top-of-the-line CX-5. I always like Honda better. I think I’m just strange that way - I always think of Honda ownership like it’s some sort of privilege, honor, and pride. I’d take the CRV in any trim. The styling isn’t the greatest - the Mazda might be better. These are probably the best compact SUV ICE’ers though. Not surprised if it outruns the CX-5, but not Signature. The Honda dealership experience is what keeps me loyal. The Mazda dealer seems scammy to me - different levels of “specialized” service - like spend more $ for nothing.

I think Mazda's quality is good, but certainly not for the amount they're asking for. I've been in Hyundais and KIAs that are screwed together a helluva lot better than most Mazda's are, and the quality of their plastics is either on par, or often, better than Mazda. Mazda paint tends to scratch easily, and their doors still shut with an empty-can noise, like yesteryear Asian cars. Go take a look at the new CX-50, and it's cheezy non-indepent rear suspension, and put your finger at the top edge of the door panels near the window. The plastic is so thin that it easily bends backwards; a spot you usually put your fingers to grab the door occasionally. Glaring oversights that most common folk never notice, but Mazda keeps getting away with because one car review claimed Mazda was "luxurious" and now everyone just goes with that. Have fun with your outdated 6-speed automatic transmissions in your brand new 2023 Mazda.

I have tried driver assistance features in Honda, Mazda, Toyota, BMWs, Audi, Mercedes, but nothing comes as close to Honda sensing. According to me they are just way more reliable and works the best than anyone else’s safety features.

@@BiswaRanjanNanda Good to know they have a satisfied customer.

@@fp5495 I will take a 6sp auto over a CVT any day of the week... Love my 21 CX5 GTR. You can't get 250hp and 320ft/lbs in a CR-V...

I can totally understand how you feel!

Yes, I forgot about the flat floor which is huge for me when camping, I’ll keep my 2022 touring thank you!!

All those are deal breaker for me. I have to have a fog lights in Northern CA, fold flat seat with a lever is a must have. It's idiotic why they removed these key necessities.

@@meenam300zx couldn’t agree more, love my 2022 platinum white touring even more now!!

Right😂 I love joe, his mistakes add to the video it’s funny but not in a way of bullying

I think he got fooled by the red paint...

Can totally relate to this .. also a happy CX5 22 owner 🙂

Me too got a 22 Cx5 turbo last weekend after seeing the 2023 CRV Introduction…the lack of upscale amenities and no higher output turbo made it easy for me to go Cx5.

Same here , I purchased a 2022 CX-5 in snowflake white and love it , I get excellent compliments, looks great , perfect ride , fantastic build quality and materials , Made in Japan, so happy .

Except in sales.

@@ThirdBrainLives That might be another good reason to go Mazda since the road is over populated with crv and rav4.

Is there a reason it doesn’t sell well like crv or rav4.. ?

I'd go honestly say it's the size. I drove the cx5 and CX50, both were great. But I'm only 5'3" and both felt so tight and cramped. I couldn't imagine driving on our long road trips with either. Loved them, but I won't buy because of the size.

@@adrydbom I’m 6 feet 183 lb, I have good space in cx5. Its definitely smaller than the competitor but not cramped. I can also sit behind myself comfortably.

Thanks for listing that perfectly!

Same they did with the American civic vs Canadian civic !American get less for more and Canada pay less with more features!

1. You dont need fog lamps if its all LED in the front, as the blanket of light coverage is higher. So cannot comment before trying. 2. This is a zonk. Not even a 12 v outlet. They seriously went out of their mind. 3. This is zonk as the previous models had it. 4. Seats are cushioned, so dont expect 100% flat surface when laid down. 5. The only missing LED is the rear turn signal.

I don’t get the downgrades … but do understand cutting cost 😡

Those are all key things for me.

They crippled their best seller... almost as if they want to not sell so many units... very suspicious behavior.

And the rear turn signals are no longer LED

And NO ENGINE UPGRADE...!!! That's unheard of in a brand new vehicle from the ground up.

Also they took the LED tail lights out … what the heck ??

@@Dontdoitguy 😑😑😑😑

I have the CR-V LX Plus 2018 .it had fog light and rear USB connectivity. This model is lower than ex

Hope it’s today, eagerly waiting on your review Joe 😊

I agree totally this interior is super basic.

There is more space!

@@msbg8385 It is roomy!

@@RaitisRides But it's quite ugly too, especially compared to the CX-5

@@Someoneonthisplanet1979 So agree!

I think phev is a dilemma for Honda right now. With the battery technology and range improving all the time they might want to invest too heavily in a transitional product. Although in honesty I had my heart set on on a prime tech model plug-in but the possibility of a 3-5 year wait killed that idea. 🤷‍♂️

Thanks for letting me share it with you Dominic!

This is so very true!

That’s what I drive, the Mazda CX-5. Love it.

Honda really made this redesign very utilitarian and bland. The hybrid sexes it up a little, but not enough IMO.

Any vehicle can handle the snow. The big difference you'll see is if you put winter tires on any vehicle. People have lost the whole tradition that winter tires makes the difference. People get an AWD for the traction. That's particularly true, but an AWD will not steer or brake if you compared it to a fwd or rwd vehicle that has winter tires and the vehicle you have has AWD but wears all season tires.

That is a great very good way to put it!

They have USB’s in the back of the hybrid touring model. Silly ways of selling you the more expensive model. I think id rathe order a car with the exact parts I want to pay for.

@@yamawarr962 it's all part of the freakonomics "nudge" theory. Honda wants the hybrid numbers to be higher and has stated a percentage they're going to hit. The USB creature comforts are a siren song to make new hybrid customers. And there's a PowerPoint somewhere in the marketing department spelling out all the little nudges they are gonna employ. Leather steering wheel being a biggie.

@@keithartworker I’m so glad you mentioned Freakonomics. Although the nudge theory came from “Richard Thaler published Nudge in 2008 with co-author Cass Sunstein” for those who care. I still think Honda using this tactic is lame 😒

@@keithartworker now I’m wondering how hard it would be to buy the parts from Honda needed put the USB’s that come in the hybrid into a non hybrid. I’m also thinking the performance numbers for the gas engine are lame. No it’s not needed to be a race car but come on.

I think you may be right!

I'm getting rid of mine.

Good catch.

Who cares we know what he meant.

Oops. Lol

I agree with you Noel!

Insight is now discontinued and the new civic will get the hybrid system.

You might want to consider the Accord hybrid, Camry hybrid, or Sonata hybrid if a bigger car (non-SUV) is what you prefer.

Honda better.

I can understand how you feel!

Thanks for sharing that ownership experienece!

Just trade my 2016 civic for a 2022 cx5 not long ago. The Honda 1.5T pair with cvt is pretty fuel efficient overall and provide good power. Initially, I get 3mpg below the stated rating but after the engine break in, I get 1mpg below the rating which is acceptable. The thing with turbo is if you do a lot of city driving with stop and go traffic, it hurts the gas mileage. Cx5 on the other hand has a pretty accurate epa rating, I’m getting just 0.2mpg less than what they claim. Anyway, I would take cx5 over crv for the better styling, better interior material, sporty driving dynamics and quieter cabin.

They made a CX-7 still in 2011? I owned a 2007, it was great vehicle. I just thought incorrectly I guess that it was only made and sold for 3 years.

@@2004cyrus up until 2012

@Juan Suarez that’s good, but not everyone will drive conservatively so getting better than published figures is a rare thing

That is so wonderful of you to say!

'21 is not better than the mazda CX-5. In Any trim

I’m on my 2nd CX-5 if that tells you anything. I sold Mazdas for years. I have owned 5. Built in Japan on the CX-5 still. You feel how solid it is too.

The newer Honda CVTs don't break down, the older ones were trash

Maybe Honda could offers a CRV trim with 2.0T and 9AT

After owning Mazda CX-5. I would definitely go with the CVT and it’s great gas mileage and torque 1.5 liter engine. The Mazda is dated inside and out. Weighs considerably more and has awful front seats that offer no thigh support.

Mazda's transmission has the highest failure rate as per Scotty Kilmer.

@@ludwigtheholyblade79 yea the old Mazdas…like 5 plus years ago. Now Mazda makes the best cars as far as reliability. It’s 2022 bud

Stay tuned for part 2!

The hybrid seems like the safer option

Factssss

That's not a reason to wish for vastly inferior technology to come back. That can just be solved by Honda turning down the brightness on the LEDs next model. Honda missed the mark downgrading to mini space heaters again

I mean although yes it’s nice to have it from the factory, window tint is a simple mod lol

This is so very true!

100% agree " I would much rather have a normally aspirated engine with an automatic than a turbo with a CVT " i 100% agree dude .. i had a honda civic 2015 this trash engine had a cvt transmission wich snapped on at 44,000 miles ands my old skoo mechanic couldnt figure that garbage out to fix it i didnt get it back for a month and after a month it ran like traSH .... i hated honda after that and then i relized every sob in the car industry has this damn transmission on every line up of there cars and after having a cvt for 6 years i couldnt take it .. ... its beyyong boring not hearing those gears change .. and u without turbo u will never make more then 140 horsepower cause u literally have no gears what if u had to go off road ? and ur car that ur depending on has a damn CVT ? .... probably wont make it over a ant hill i found out only car company that doesnt use that trash transmission is MAZDA and since then i bought 2 cars from them and i looove it ! fast reliable good features , comfortable and its badd asss mad props to mazda

@@akgonen60 So true👏🏾👏🏾

@@akgonen60 I 100% agree with you with Honda's CVT. I have a 2013 Civic. That was the last model the used their regular AT transmission after that they started using the shitty CVT. Honda is a very good brand and i never had any problems with my civic. Since i bought it i put 100,000 and no major issues other then brakes and a pm service. But i want to ask you how are the mazdas with the engine and performance? Did you experience any issue from the water pump or alternator?

I feel your pain!

Newer doesn’t mean better. I’d take the CX5’s timeless and refreshed look over this Dodge Caravan look any day.

get a touring then bro

Joe biden took over and is destroying honda as well

The driver's seat is usually slid back more. Rear pocket with "stuff" in it, subtracts from the rear available space.

This is so very true!

Honda already released that they estimated at least 50% of the sales will be the hybrid trims. It doesn't make sense to put a 2.0 in it.

EXACTLY...!!! You DO NOT build a new vehicle from the ground up. And not give it a new power train. Especially, since this vehicle is now a bit larger then the outgoing model. Even Nissan took a gamble doing that for their 2022 model. And it paid off now the Rogue is selling like hot cakes.

This is not a BMW by far.

@@UncleDoc77 ​ neither are other non-luxury vehicles in this same segment along with other Hondas that make these features available. Nothing luxury about these features.

Hmm which competitors in this class offer all those nice features?

@@Goldendad1 too many to name in this class and more 2023 announcements to come (CX-70, Fusion Active, etc.). Take the both RAV4 and Sportage hybrids for example and they offer spare tires and fog lights. Even with Honda’s own 2021 Accord you can find fog lights, a HUD, vent seats, heated rear seats, etc.

@@grcigar9911 Thanks for this. It’s important to think you’re getting the best value your money can buy. The work in progress continues.

What is your MPG with your hybrid? Do you carry any type of spare?

@@namvet1968 my average fuel consumption is about 7.5l/100km, which translates to about 30-31mpg (mostly in town). However, last weekend I had an extra-urban trip and the fuel consumption was very good: 5.2 l/100km=45mpg. It overall depends on your driving style, I am more of a relaxed driver. And no, I do not carry any spare tyre, I only have a repair kit.