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The controversy erupted following the publication of a statement by the Justice and Peace Commission of the Holy Land. It expressed its indignation at the use of the concept of “just war” relating to the conflict betwen Israel and Gaza.
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Комментарии : 191   
@gunshotlagoon922
@gunshotlagoon922 10 дней назад
I stand with the Catholic community in Gaza.
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573
@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 6 дней назад
There is none. Islam and by extension Hamas does allow Christians to exist as anything better than 2nd class subjects and slaves.
@reneefurrer2712
@reneefurrer2712 День назад
I obey my Heavenly Father and His word and pray for the peace of Jerusalem and I pray for the salvation of my Jewish brothers and sisters. Did you know that scripture says that no weapons formed against Israel shall prosper? Did you know that the Bible says that Wll nations that come against Israel will be destroyed and all of Gaza will be destroyed? Yes that is what God's scripture says in the Bible! I stand with God and Israel. Not Hamas terrorists who use their own people as human sheilds.
@gunshotlagoon922
@gunshotlagoon922 День назад
@@reneefurrer2712 God does not stand with the State of Israel. He cast the Jews out of the Holy Land for their disobedience. After Jerusalem was sacked, all the Jewish genealogical records were destroyed. They are the enemies of the Gospel. Today's Jews are either atheists or are Talmudic in that they blaspheme the Lord Jesus Christ. Until they accept that the Church is the new Israel they will forever create nothing but conditions for bloodshed in the Holy Land.
@lupinthe4th400
@lupinthe4th400 3 дня назад
- Jerusalem calls for aid... - And Christendom will answer! Greetings from Eastern Orthodox Greece.
@Povest1389
@Povest1389 День назад
Yeah especially in 1204. when they sacked Constantinople and later established Frankokratia? I'm Eastern orthodox, my wife is a Roman Catholic, I love them, but some things I simply can't forgive them. They were too aggressive towards us, instead of our common enemy - Muslim Invaders.
@lupinthe4th400
@lupinthe4th400 День назад
@@Povest1389 Well, I hope the Franks learned from their mistakes this time.
@Blancheisacutie
@Blancheisacutie 10 дней назад
The inhumane conditions that Gaza citizens have been placed in are anything but just. May God help all the innocent involved.
@insectslayer1374
@insectslayer1374 6 дней назад
their supermarkets are literally full captured in video and some of them are even throwing food away stop regurgitating islamic propaganda
@mountainstream8351
@mountainstream8351 11 дней назад
Agree. It's not a just war.
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 10 дней назад
After Saturday comes Sunday
@KINGANIMEREVIEW
@KINGANIMEREVIEW 5 дней назад
Hamas hides among civilians because they don’t want that L. When they left Gaza October 7th instead of attacking only the government/military they targeted & attacked civilians. And they want sympathy for their cause. And most of the clowns are falling for it. It’s all going according to their plan to take over the world.
@CatholicCrusader__30
@CatholicCrusader__30 3 дня назад
​@@yohanneslong1970 true. these people are misguided
@pegminarski5253
@pegminarski5253 10 дней назад
Prayers for Pope Francis ❤
@CatholicCrusader07
@CatholicCrusader07 6 дней назад
There will only be peace in the Holy Land when both jews and muslim's submit to Christ and his Holy Catholic Church.
@RobinBrown-nk5yv
@RobinBrown-nk5yv 6 дней назад
This can't be stressed enough
@michaelfisher7170
@michaelfisher7170 5 дней назад
@@RobinBrown-nk5yv you realize that will never happen. anymore than all christians becoming Jewish or Muslim. you monotheists ruin everything I swear.
@indeterminableentertainmen2327
@indeterminableentertainmen2327 9 дней назад
Kingdom Of Jerusalem?
@buddymacbuddington
@buddymacbuddington 2 дня назад
Not a war genocide
10 дней назад
It's good to make, every 5 years, a little commercial for Catechism of the Catholic Church. 😅
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 10 дней назад
I paid $1.50 for a used copy.
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 10 дней назад
Remember this: After Saturday comes Sunday
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle 8 дней назад
Remember after Sabbath comes 1st Day...
@Christusregna
@Christusregna 6 дней назад
​@@WildwoodCastlemost Christians in Muslim majority areas know what he is saying. But I guess you don't care for them, do you?
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle 6 дней назад
@@Christusregna Actually.. I was just teaching the Hebrew way days were referred to... Your assumption falls flat...
@Christusregna
@Christusregna 6 дней назад
@@WildwoodCastle you really don't get it do? He is telling you that there is a saying in the Muslim world that once they are done with Jews, Christians will be next.
@Christusregna
@Christusregna 6 дней назад
@@WildwoodCastle dude is talking about a well known islamist genocide agenda first on those who worship on Saturday, then those who worship on Sunday. It's
@beslanintruder2077
@beslanintruder2077 2 дня назад
Thought it was going to say, tension between Catholic Church and Israel over the term "Israel".
@LordMazdamundi
@LordMazdamundi 9 дней назад
Finish the phrase! Synagogue of ….!
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle 8 дней назад
Finish the phrase! Mother of ...!
@Crusader-George
@Crusader-George 8 дней назад
Synagogue of satan
@AthanSMaliakkal
@AthanSMaliakkal 8 дней назад
Mother of God. Ave Christus Rex ​@@WildwoodCastle
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 8 дней назад
Finish the phrase! After saturday comes ...!
@AthanSMaliakkal
@AthanSMaliakkal 8 дней назад
@@yohanneslong1970 .....new week. Sentence finished
@Justin-kn6dp
@Justin-kn6dp 10 дней назад
If the Jews would just convert like they should have 2000 years ago, this war would not have begun. They need to repent of their pride and follow our Lord. Please continue to pray for them and the Palestinian's as well.
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle 8 дней назад
Yeah... Much worse than those Crusades for Holy Relics...
@MrSmith-zy2bp
@MrSmith-zy2bp 7 дней назад
Ah, but they did after the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Levant Christians are genetically closer to the Jews of Jesus's time than the rabbinic jews of today. The land belongs to the Levant Christians.
@WackyEncapsulatedFruitCup
@WackyEncapsulatedFruitCup 6 дней назад
​@@WildwoodCastle you are leaving far too much out, in order to even be taken serious.
@insectslayer1374
@insectslayer1374 6 дней назад
have you ever heard of the wholesome middle eastern proverb: "After Saturday comes Sunday" ? It doesn't matter who's in there whether Jew, Christian, or pagan, the conquest of Dar al-Harb(land of war) will not end until the entire world becomes Dar al-Islam under the Islamic Caliphate go check these out: Surah Al-Anfal - 12 Sahih Bukhari - Hadith 2977 Sahih Muslim 1767a Surah Al-Bayyinah - 6 I was fooled by their propaganda, too but that's to be expected. *After all..* Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1939(they use false translations btw translate the arabic yourself) and Sahih al-Bukhari 3029 Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) called,: *_"War is deceit"._*
@michaelfisher7170
@michaelfisher7170 5 дней назад
this is why an Israel exists to begin with. Medieval minded christians like you insisting "they need to convert"...actually you need to stop being christian. you guys ruin EVERYTHING>
@mastergmoore
@mastergmoore 8 дней назад
Let thy will be done lord. Enlighten the path ahead and give us proper guidance on the challenges ahead. Sacred heart of Jesus I trust in you always. Amen.
@reneefurrer2712
@reneefurrer2712 День назад
I stand with what my heavenly Father and the bible says and I pray for the peace of Jerusalem and for my Jewish brothers and sisters to come to know Christ as their Lord and Savior.
@jenjaxskye
@jenjaxskye 11 дней назад
“Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.” ‭‭✝️ John‬ ‭14‬:‭27‬ ‭ “Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me-put it into practice. And the God of PEACE will be with you.” ‭‭✝️ Philippians‬ ‭4‬:‭8‬-‭9‬
@adamziccardi355
@adamziccardi355 5 дней назад
If israel wants to plead self defense, then why do they always self defend and then some?
@lo5182
@lo5182 8 дней назад
Long Live Christ the King!
@JaylenPotts-zs2qw
@JaylenPotts-zs2qw 11 дней назад
I hope they pray for cities like Albany Ga
@jonyivre4541
@jonyivre4541 10 дней назад
À la guerre comme à la guerre.
@iruletheworldiruletheworld8365
@iruletheworldiruletheworld8365 11 дней назад
Catholic Church has the final say if your Catholic. End of 🇻🇦
@icxcnika7358
@icxcnika7358 11 дней назад
In matters of faith and morals not politics + there are levels of Magisterium and the Justice and Peace Commission of the Holy Land wouldn't necessarily have it at all
@icxcnika7358
@icxcnika7358 10 дней назад
@@mpkropf5062 You misunderstood me. abortion is irrelevant to what I was talking about. The Church clearly teaches the concept of a just war, and one can hold the opinion that the war in Gaza is just, and be a Catholic in good standing.
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 10 дней назад
Yeah that won’t work this time. Israel needs to defeat Hamas. We must support Israel and not interfere.
@genarosalazar2818
@genarosalazar2818 10 дней назад
You mess with Israel 🇮🇱 you mess with God.
@AthanSMaliakkal
@AthanSMaliakkal 8 дней назад
​@@bngr_bngrwhat ? 😂 Can you show in the Bible where it says the current Judaism of rabbaic is the one established by God ? Lol. The Catholic church being the empire of God in earth has all right to say the wrongs did by the kingdom of Israel. And if will continue until the final days
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle 11 дней назад
And the women sang one to another as they played, and said, Saul hath slain his thousands, And David his ten thousands...
@stevenwiswell4308
@stevenwiswell4308 9 дней назад
Einstein his hundreds of thousands...
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle 8 дней назад
@@stevenwiswell4308 I would lay that one on Truman...
@sports872
@sports872 10 дней назад
It's a genocide
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 10 дней назад
After saturday comes sunday.
@kevinfernandez9999
@kevinfernandez9999 10 дней назад
No
@genarosalazar2818
@genarosalazar2818 10 дней назад
You mess with Israel 🇮🇱 you mess with God.
@LordMazdamundi
@LordMazdamundi 9 дней назад
@@genarosalazar2818The Synagogue of Satan are children of their father the devil. Tell me who I’m paraphrasing 😊
@catforhire2931
@catforhire2931 8 дней назад
​@@genarosalazar2818 This comes from saint Paul. Romans 9:6-8: "For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children. You cannot simultaneously reject Jesus and his church and receive his blessings.
@marley2020
@marley2020 4 дня назад
How much power those people are exerting on the Church. Incredible.
@goldengun9970
@goldengun9970 4 дня назад
church doesn't belong in the Jewish state
@gwmkiwi
@gwmkiwi 10 дней назад
Support the BDS
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 8 дней назад
Support Dhimmitude
@henrybass7746
@henrybass7746 11 дней назад
Read Revelation, chapters 17 and 18. Judgement day is coming fast!
@doctrinaetveritas
@doctrinaetveritas 5 дней назад
Behold, I will bring of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. Behold, I will make them to come and adore before thy feet. And they shall know that I have loved thee. (Apocalypse 3:9)
@anlerden4851
@anlerden4851 11 дней назад
I love Catholic Church and Israel so much.🥰😍🤗🙏✝
@ValAllOver
@ValAllOver 11 дней назад
I don't know why i find RR (which is not an official Vatican media like Vatican News) seems to be on the side of making things worse, just like they did with the LGBT reports, they did make our Church looks ridiculous. I have never seen them making reports what both side have done to each, but mostly only focus to one side alone, ignoring the fact of the threat coming from Islamic jihad from the Catholic sources, including Vatican News. May Christians be blessed and protected in the Holy Land in this difficult time 🙏🏻✝️🇻🇦
@justinthomasjacob595
@justinthomasjacob595 11 дней назад
Israel is literally committing a genocide and also oppresses and discriminates Palestinian Christian communities
@manuelvargas467
@manuelvargas467 10 дней назад
Jesus and Mary please help 🇮🇱 israel ✝️📿❤️‍🔥
@vallecend6855
@vallecend6855 5 дней назад
Israel has really lost their way…
@goldengun9970
@goldengun9970 4 дня назад
This is finding their way. church out of the jewish state. Judaism is the whole the truth
@Recipe_For_Disaster_TV
@Recipe_For_Disaster_TV 2 дня назад
Lol not really this was always their way
@len4319
@len4319 4 дня назад
There's no any perfect true religion. Only Jesus christ is the true religion. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, to visit the fatherless and Widows in their affliction and to keep himself unspotted. -James 1:27 & 2Peter 3:14. Kjv.
@hail2mary7
@hail2mary7 11 дней назад
🇻🇦🇮🇱
@ValAllOver
@ValAllOver 11 дней назад
I don't know why i find RR (which is not an official media as Vatican News) seems to be on the side of making things worse, just like they did with the LGBT reports, they did make our Church looks ridiculous. I have never seen them making reports what both side have done to each, but mostly only focus to one side alone, ignoring the fact of the threat coming from Islamic jihad from the Catholic sources, including Vatican News. May Christians be blessed and protected in the Holy Land in this difficult time 🙏🏻✝️🇻🇦 Hopefully RR don't take this one down 😄
@Christophoros-it1qt
@Christophoros-it1qt 10 дней назад
For us (truly Apostolic Christians) there is no such a thing as "just war", because Jesus has never permitted anyone to sin against His Commandments, or given anyone Authority (not even Peter) to make exemptions from them! Even though He is willing to forgive the truly penitents, He will never condone any sins against them! The virtually "canonization" of the 'Sin of Cain' since the fourth Century by the betrayal of the Hierarchy till today, is not going to change the Word of God, ever! Hating your neighbor makes you a 'murderer', says John, and all violence and all wars on all sides are inspired by the Devi, the "Crusaides" too! Only the one who looks like 'an Angel of light' and his demons by their very clever lies make them look "reasonable"! (Poor Thomas Aquino!) Veritatis Missio
@raphaelledesma9393
@raphaelledesma9393 10 дней назад
The concept of just war is an extension of legitimate self-defense. I assume that you accept that violence to protect yourself and others as a last resort is not sinful. I also assume you're okay with Christians serving in the police and occasionally using proportionate force to stop criminals and protect the innocent.
@Christophoros-it1qt
@Christophoros-it1qt 10 дней назад
@@raphaelledesma9393 No, no, no! Please, read it again! During the first three hundred years of Christianity, it was "unthinkable" for the Apostolic Christians to harm or kill their blood-thirsty persecutors or anybody else in 'self-defence' or for whatever reason! That the Sin of Cain became after the fourth Century in the Devil's Interpretation of the term 'self-defence' to this day even in the CCC, is the betrayal and the error which has to be corrected! More (truly Christian) theology in my videos! Veritatis Missio
@Christophoros-it1qt
@Christophoros-it1qt 10 дней назад
@@raphaelledesma9393 I already sent you a "re-consider" reply, and the program marked it as "redirected"! Veritatis Missio
@raphaelledesma9393
@raphaelledesma9393 10 дней назад
@@Christophoros-it1qt Hmm, but then how do we square this with the traditions and hagiography of there being soldier martyrs in the first three centuries: (St Sebastian, St Demetrius, etc) and that there are documentation of Christians serving in the army. Reading on it, there is no prohibition under pain of excommunication against Christians serving in the army.
@Christophoros-it1qt
@Christophoros-it1qt 10 дней назад
@@raphaelledesma9393 They were Martyred, like Achilleus, because they refused to serve after their conversion! There were, of course, always "Judas", but as many "blood-thirsty Christians" do not know, or make themselves "blind" for the Historical fact, that no one was allowed to serve as soldier in the Roman Empire before Constantine without swearing allegiance to the "Gods of the State", because the existence of the State (as they believed) was depending! on these Gods! I understand your grief and pain that make you (subconsciously) resist the Truth, but Jesus wants me to help you and all who will listen to my (our) Penitential Program (videos) of Veritatis Missio to save your souls!
@Joe-sg8tk
@Joe-sg8tk 10 дней назад
It is a just war.
@raphaelledesma9393
@raphaelledesma9393 10 дней назад
@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dqOur Catechism has more than those three though. The concept and conditions have been refined and adjusted by the Magisterium due to the changing times (particularly since warfare has become much more destructive since the Middle Ages). Using the contemporary conditions (remembering that they must all be fulfilled), would it still be a just war?
@jacktracy8356
@jacktracy8356 11 дней назад
1 John 4:2 KJV Hereby you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 and every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist. Note: GOD was manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16 KJV) as the SON of GOD, JESUS CHRIST, to shed HIS real blood and give HIS real body on a real cross once for the forgiveness of all sins for whosoever believes. (Hebrews KJV chapters 9 and 10.) In complete contradiction to this, the RCC teaches that CHRIST comes in a wafer as often as a priest pleases.
@John2verse5
@John2verse5 10 дней назад
Even before 1611, the Word IS. Brethren, why do the "not my king" james followers always capitalize his initials before JESUS/GOD ? Isn't that "Exodus 32" ? Mother of thee only King of King's is Queen. Ave MARÍA🌹🌷🌹, please pray for my confused brethren.
@jacktracy8356
@jacktracy8356 9 дней назад
@@John2verse5 I quoted from the Book of John. Do you have a reply to what I quoted?
@amitperlman1096
@amitperlman1096 11 дней назад
I am Catholic and Israeli soldier 🇮🇱✝️
@icxcnika7358
@icxcnika7358 11 дней назад
גם אני אחי
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 11 дней назад
Do you murder Palestinians once a week ir once a month?
@dainagrn7030
@dainagrn7030 10 дней назад
You mean slave
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 10 дней назад
@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq whatʼs with the terrorist / civilian kill ratio?
@manuelnunez8802
@manuelnunez8802 10 дней назад
@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq That's why Netanyahu's first action was to bomb the hostages. That makes sense.
@mnmmcg3543
@mnmmcg3543 10 дней назад
It's just war bro calm down
@michaeljohndennis2231
@michaeljohndennis2231 10 дней назад
Even as a traditional (Mass in Latin and pre-Vatican II, pro-Cardinal Burke and pro-Archbishop Vigano) Irish Catholic, I support the Israeli government stance on this issue
@manuelnunez8802
@manuelnunez8802 10 дней назад
Because if 1,000 civilians are slaughtered it's evil. So when 40,000+ civilians are slaughtered...well...uh...well, then it's NOT so evil somehow, right? Right?
@franciscouche-egburedi3059
@franciscouche-egburedi3059 7 дней назад
I too support the dismantling of Hamas but i do not support how they do it
@Lone-Lee
@Lone-Lee 6 дней назад
With all those labels you just ended up calling yourself a sedevacantist. You're not Catholic if you do not recognise the Pope!!
@insectslayer1374
@insectslayer1374 6 дней назад
@@manuelnunez8802 they would not have been "slaughtered" if not for the atrocities committed on Oct 7th after which they were celebrating on the streets and giving candies and even posting their crimes on the internet and celebrating like the bunch of sick bstards they are Israel left Gaza alone in 2005 but what did they do? They voted H4M4$ which spent billions of dollars they recieved from the world and even from Israel into weapons and tunnels instead of making Gaza a better place!!! Now THEY'RE THE VICTIMS? All over the Bible and even the Quran itself mentions that that place was the home of the Israelites The Quran doesn't even mention "palestine" once! And the Arabic alphabet doesn't even have P in it! what the f is wrong with you people? You are encouraging evil
@Recipe_For_Disaster_TV
@Recipe_For_Disaster_TV 2 дня назад
As a man of god, I disagree. But uphold your beliefs
@damianop100
@damianop100 10 дней назад
The Catholic Church should be very careful when criticizing Israel in this regard. The claims outlined here against Israel are simply untrue. If ever there was a just war, this is it.
@Christusregna
@Christusregna 6 дней назад
Well with this papacy, what are you expecting?
@ileanaacacostaacosta1813
@ileanaacacostaacosta1813 5 дней назад
Yes it's a just war I'm tired of Bergoglio I want him gone too antisemitic old coot
@user-cv8ej4hu7p
@user-cv8ej4hu7p 10 дней назад
Шайтаны ,что католики,что иудеи.
@catherinetrinh3260
@catherinetrinh3260 10 дней назад
You are confused. Catholics are spiritual descendants of Jesus. Jewish people are God's chosen people. It was Jesus who increased the number of chosen people by adding His followers.
@John2verse5
@John2verse5 10 дней назад
My YESHUA/JESUS says, I'll die so you can live. The devil says, keep discord, hate/kill each other (communist & islamist) and the unborn so I can live. There's truly no greater fear than love itself, Repent.
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