Jason Mengel-Ezra McCandless's Boyfriends Police Interview 

Not only tipped but PAID!

Ok, but she was 19. Young people make mistakes every day at that age. This wasn't just a bad choice, obviously, but failing to tip, that's forgivable.

@@ted1091 she was liar, manipulative, used people, and was selfish. That’s the best thing I can say about her.

"Selfish Mooch" is a concise accurate description of Monica/Ezra/Boy

@@NASkeywest😊😊

Drama. Run!

The Breakfast Club

Good point, I was thinking the same thing. As I listen to him, I think why on earth are you putting up with this toxic drama between two damaged people. I worked with a girl that reminds me of Ezra, she would self destruct and do the weirdest things to incite drama and issues. Then cry and want to be saved, she acted like a fragile wounded bird. On the outside I found it exhausting. It sounds like Ezra is a covert narcissist always the victim.

Well look at the dudes hair!!! Not to mention the DUNGAREE vest he sportin… That says EVERYTHING you wanna know about the type of shysters your dealing with.. 5 minutes after hearing him talk and I got a headache with all the “likes” and OBV minding of everyone else’s business

​@@bradmadeira6807 he's in the army surprisingly, I didn't really get that impression.

Same! Came here from Dreading, subscribed and going through the playlist myself 🙌🏻

I feel exactly the same way🤮🤮. All the talk about journals and the talk about sharing journal writings seemed so false to me. Also the story of how ezra and jason met/started dating seems like stalking central on ezras part. She just keeps showing up and is like "ohh I didn't know you would be here"..🤮

i actually think that all of these guys were into younger guys. they were all vying for her affection and she looked, acted and dressed like a younger dude.

A bunch of worthless coffeehouse hipsters.

Agreeed

Alex liking young boys??

Or possibly Jason did.

what if Alex did in retaliation for Ezra not choosing him over Jason?

I think she like to have the men around her go into protective mode over her. I think she possibly did to create drama.

No, I think Jason did and then took a picture of it to make himself look like a hero

@@ellyisonyoutube4017oh my god another comment trying to show leniency for ezra lol. Y’all give ezra wayyyy too much credit here lololol.

Jason is a mid 30’s man who hangs out in a coffee house every single day with a bunch of late teen-mid 20’s hipster SJW’s that cry about Trump all of the time (according to his testimony in court) His outfits, his really young friends, his 19 yr old gf he let constantly use and cheat on him…..idk. Im early 40’s and if I were to meet him in my 30’s I’d think he’s kind of a loser. I’d never spend time with a bunch of kids at that age.

Amazing post. We need more people like you on the Internet, and in real life. I do think he’s a little odd. I am a little odd. He certainly comes across as someone who is caring to a fault. But that certainly is not the worst fault to have, and I can certainly relate. If he is “odd” or “weird”….he saw something that was wrong, he spoke up….and that is amazing, emotional intuition that I absolutely respect.

I agree that he deserves some respect and props for being a caring person. Unfortunately his strength is also the catalyst for at least part of these massive problems and the think that he has a blind spot because of his empathy and compassion to the point where it reaches a naivety. I find it odd that he would still love these ppl. The friends he has are horrible usurers and honestly idk if I could be friends w someone who had some young boy fetish. A lot of red flags. I can’t comprehend how someone his age would be oblivious to the creeps he hangs around w. It seems like he’s too selfless and is too concerned about helping others to move forward himself. The loyalty he gives is by no way reciprocated and it is odd that he isn’t aware of this with all of what he has been through. How does someone live with you without knowing their age? That’s odd. I can see it going the other way but younger is a problem. A slurry of things of the sort I wondered. He appears to be more logically inclined and level headed and therefore was treated like the black sheep or third wheel. They treated him like a connector piece. It almost appears he does not react to being slighted. Just his observation of her behavior and the way he talks and all these questions he has about her - these things could have all been confronted but instead he enabled and catered to these folk. It is sad because he seems like a caring and decent person that lacks the awareness that these are “bar”friends at best. He hangs around with a bunch of narcissistic people who are delusional. All this philosophy and they are so small minded stuck in the clique of the same peeps all because of this weird lone kitchy hang-out. He knew that girl was a dumpster fire after a few weeks. I think the best thing he could do is leave that area and gtfo of WI and transfer to another national guard post and stop drinking. Hopefully this was a huge wake up call and I’m glad he survived this terrible person. I wish he would have stopped trying to “figure things out” and just call a spade a spade. He wasted so much energy on these rotten situations trying to be captain save a ho for everyone involved. I think he needs some counseling himself for certain.

@@darkmatter7266 YES!! 👏🏽 Omg I’m so annoyed with these comments so refreshing to see another level headed adult chime in. At some point in life you have to start being rational and logical. If not by 35 then you’re pretty doomed to a life of drama and ridiculousness. It’s called maturing and a huge part of that is not hanging out with kids who can’t even go to a bar legally. I keep going back to the fact that this entire situation from him meeting Ezra, then her meeting Alex, Jason and Alex becoming acquainted through Ezra, her screwing John and then ending Alex’s life wasn’t even 6 months! It starts in mid Sept and ends March 22nd the following year. This talk of deep love and close friendships is so juvenile especially for a man his age. He’s kind of a weirdo too if you ask me. If I ever met him while in my 30’s it would be a hard pass!

​@@NunyaBizness2.0exactly. It's like he still wants to be young and "hip". Has a desperate need for validation.

Exactly 😂. The difference is staggering. Just shows how images can be manipulated.

LOL. He's dressed like a teenager from the 80s

And Alex’ roommate said she started spending a lot of time in Alex’ room starting in Sept. so, the entire time she was with Jason.

Yeah how ezra describes her and jasons feelings for eachother as "an ancient love" 🙄

​@@hilomona Thank you so much for pointing that out, ("old soul" reference). Something that (creeper) much older men always say to much younger girls; along with, Ie; "you're so much more intellectually & emotionally mature than the women my age," "you're much more wise than your age," "age doesn't matter," "I can relate to so much more than the women my age," "we have so much more in common," "you're so perceptive," blah blah blah, Said every older creeper man (30 and above) to me since 16, 17 through 24, 25. They were all preying, trying to flatter, seduce, deceive because of lust , (not love). They can't relate to women thier age and those lines don't work with them.

ngl reading out loud passages from Kierkegaard while having sex is the gayest shit i have ever heard.

​@@Winter-Lake yeah the only time you say old soul is like someone who is young but seems old... SOMEONE WHO IS YOUNG, but seems old. ive never had a relationship in my 29 years where i was the older one in the relationship. i remember seeing guys who were a year or two out of highschool picking up juniors and senior girls, shit was really pathetic and weird lol. like dude go after women your own age the fuck you trying to help these girls with their highschool projects and shit lmao

ummm....he played his role, and loved it. Had his manic pixie dream girl to stay relevant.

Maybe, as a person in his mid-30s, he should have known not to date teenagers if he didn't want drama? Not that anyone could really have foreseen what kind of soulless meatbag she was under all the layers of pretension, but still

He’s weird, everyone in this is tbh!

Right.. less than four minutes in and I'm thinking what a maroon.​@@susiefoxy8130

All his buddies were early-mid twenties, she was 19 when they met. He’s got 10-15 years on these people. He maybe feels like the big guy on campus distilling advice. Even tho I think Jason is a good guy, he’s drawn into the gossip, drama and disfunction. Doesn’t seem he’s pushed anything out of his mind. He’d be exhausting to be around.

What do you mean, doesn’t seem like he’s pushed anything out of his mind? Never heard that phrase before.

@@goldenglowable During the police interview he kept saying “I’ve pushed a lot of this out of my mind” in reference to forgetting the details of their relationship. I commented that he doesn’t appear to have forgotten much because he shared a lot of details about their time together. He’s still hung up on her, or his frustration, or the drama.

I was like so cheated on but like, who doesn’t like a crazy girl, and like I had lots of time on my hands so I just like became her personal drama coordinator

He really does act (and dress) like a teenager lol

😂

HAHAAHAHAHAHA- Roger-dodger over and out!

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Right?! And he doesn’t even use it correctly 💀

yes-- and he does it on the stand. Seems he's in the habit of doing it in order to appear quirky and interesting somehow for his younger coffeeshop friends..

I know why does he constantly use military terms hes not even full time military. He did same at trial

@@celticwarrior777 yeah the prosecutor told him to stop lmao

Agree. It's almost Twin Peaks irl, a lot of odd characters..

I think that's how Ezra described the little prince to him, to support her claims that Alex was a sexual deviant, and Jason never really bothered to look into it. She also claimed that he assaulted her after watching the movie together so she definitely warped the whole plot just to make it make sense

She also claimed that to Alex she was Christ (the Lamb of God), referencing the story of Abraham & Issac. Which, she made so many false claims about Alex and warped and twisted his writings, his perception, his character, that I don't believe he thought of her as Christ, the Lamb of God. It appears that Alex understood, appreciated, admired, respected, and comprehended that story, but Ezra did not.

This is what I was thinking, and I commented similarly. This has to be a second hand understanding of The Little Prince via Ezra, and yet another way for her to malign Alex (as well as demonstrate her inability to comprehend anything). Also a total insult to Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Her explaining Alex journals infuriated me . She doesn't know shit about concept and philosophy when she explains Søren Kierkegaard and Nietzsche philosophy i was shocked by the lack of knowledge on her part she just want to be seeing like a intellectual person.

Also krakauer is a shameless depraved narcissist

That's your typical woke, leftist, "progressive" hipsters for ya.

​@Siobbhan I agree. She came across as dim. Couldn't pronounce words.

She got bamboozled by word "albeit" didn't know how to pronounce it and sure as hell didn't knew what it meant. For anyone even dabbling into philosophy listening to her must have been infuriating @@Siobbhan

I don't understand how that makes you lose empathy through the nonetheless horrible thing he went through. I don't love this guy but come on.

Well hopefully he has never done that since, and has cut off any and all contact with her cause if he hasn’t then he is just a idiot.

I think he said he drew the line after the 'stabbed 16 times' aspect came out in a hearing, then he gave up. Maybe before that he thought it still might have been some sort of self-defence. He's been nothing but gullible as far as her claims have gone the entire time.

@@louleg23 when did he say this? I was pretty shocked when I heard that her and Jason were still corresponding via mail whilst she was in jail ( I believe she mentioned this in one of the letters the prosecution was reading out loud during sentencing ) so if he really officially cut contact it would be good to know 👌

That’s why she was so Excited to see him in court: she thought he was gonna be all happy to see her again.

About what? He’s consistent, he’s authentic & was being jerked around like to an insane degree by Ezra. He was being victimized by Ezra before Alex. I 100% believe that he knew only exactly what Ezra wanted him to know.

OMG YES THAT WAS SO OBVIOUS DURING THE TRIAL

He comes off as a dangerously stupid enabler. “I thought she was 23”. None of these fools seemed to care about character or behavior. Guess they missed the practicable application part of philosophy? Who knows what to believe, anything that comes from Ezra is probably bs.

“Roger that.”

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A closeted gay one who dresses like a teenager from the 80s

@kabirdas2786 dream on. He's obviously a major hetero

Some of the ppl (including Alex) were in their mid to late twenties, Ezra was the youngest one, not the reverse

I did that with DvsH and it was an amazing experience to go through the whole thing!

I get called lazy if I listen to anything, or I'd be doing the same 😆

Dating a sociopath or narcissist is always like that, sadly.

Wasn't it "a young, immature" attestation by Jason & later when challenged on "impressionable" (thereby taking away her r-bility), he said No?

As a victim of a 3 year relationship with someone who I’ve self diagnosed with NPD (after the relationship) I agree with your comment. You start to think you’re going crazy. You don’t know how to trust your intuition anymore. Then you find out they’ve been cheating on you the whole time. And all the lies and betrayal. It’s horrible

@@Vaseholly Same. But keep in mind, she picked him for a reason. And she wanted him back for a reason. The more I learn about this case, and hear him talk, the more creeped out I get. It's like someone is reading my flipping journal.

I honestly think she's got both bpd and narcissistic or histrionic tendencies

What’s your opinion of a society where everyone flings around diagnoses that doctors spend 8 years + an apprenticeship to be qualified to do?

@whims6278 How will you enjoy the day some internet idiot writes that about you during your 15 mins of fame?

Have you ever considered that she was, in fact, a victim?

I agree. I think she needed attention desperately and the only way she thought she could get it was via sex. Then she turned around and blamed multiple men of SA. She deserves her 50 years and then some.

@@fighttheevilrobots3417 i said "not always truthful" im sure she's a victim in some way, at some point in her life. but anyone can be a victim if they distort their perception, anyone can twist things and change a narrative, im not saying she did that, im just saying that while it's possible she truly was telling the full truth this whole time, it can also be possible that she's telling fabrications and lies. but that's not to say that 2 things can't be true at the same time. maybe at some point she really was victim and now she's lashing out. these were all possibilities that came to my mind long ago when this story came out. at that time I was actually going thru my own nightmare of abuse and se>< assault and I think it kind of pissed me off.

Totally agree about her similarity to Jody A. I was actually thinking during the trial that it be amazing to put her in the same prison and see what the dynamic between those two psychos would be!!

He’d have taken her back, again.

@@canileaveitblank1476 I don't think so. I WAS this guy (well, except for the murder part). Once your eyes are opened and you realize the situation...at how much of a monster she really is, and how unbelievably stupid you were...you can't crawl back into that box, even if you wanted to. Then all the tricks she used on you before (the only way she knows) pisses you off instead of manipulates you. The nice guy/female narcissist relationship is a weird one.

​@@OcrilatI agree and I'm a woman. He may have pitied her, but didn't trust her at all. Well, he's an introvert, routine-oriented and calm. Should not impact his ability as a competent medic. I know plenty of others, including my ex who's a top scientist for Raytheon who is just like this - small set of activities he loves and a routine. My ex flew small airplanes as a hobby, but couldn't give directons for crap. So for this guy, in part it is being nervous and having to testify as an introvert. He was too passive to even have a conversation about abortion. He may be pro-choice, but should have (at his age) at least asked her to think it through after examining his own feelings on it even if outcome was the same. He was deeply traumatized as a result which destroyed his bond with her. Not being honest with himself underscores how passive he is. I have a number of rabid pro-c friends, but several chose to keep the child - all decided as a couple. To her, my guess, especially after watching HG Tudor's channel in narcissism for a couple of years, the pregnancy interfered with his undivided attention. He's the one who withdrew after, was disappointed in not being able to stand by her during procedure, slept on the couch. Watching him during trial confirmed my opinion about him.

​@@canileaveitblank1476no. He was done, but an empath.

@@victrola2007 I can see the trap he was in, and how she exploited it. At the end of the day he just wanted to be a good guy, and wanted to be there for her. She also almost certainly seemed like such a breathe of fresh air...like a 'omg where have you been all my life'. But that came from her mimicking her victims, and pretending to be interested in what they were interested in. She did the same for his other two friends that ended up in her bed. She feigned interest in self defense with the one friend and pretended to be interested in philosophy with Alex.

Total Jodi Arias vibes.

not to mention they literally showed him messages of her hitting John up for another shag 😂 how can you still believe she was assaulted after reading that is beyond me. She literally wrote him she was waiting for her next in and out

Spot on.

100%!

Yes, I'm finished with Burch. I will be starting on Brian Cohee.

yes, absolutely. And most of the people in the comments are saying how great and caring he is..

😅

Like .... an hour. Like really

Chris watts did the same. It is weird considering these are both not teenagers.

@@pallasathena1369Jason is a mid 30’s man who hangs out in a coffee house every single day with a bunch of late teen-mid 20’s hipster SJW’s that cry about Trump all of the time (according to his testimony in court) His outfit, his friends, his 19 yr old gf… idk. If I were to meet him in my 30’s I’d think he’s kind of a loser.

Yes-- and from witness interviews during the court caee, it appears Jason may have had a drinking problem, and definitely had some anger management issues. And in general he seems to portray himself to be younger than he truly is. Seems very emotionally immature from this interview, as well as his testimony on the stand.

He's 34 and she's 19. What 34 year old man has a circle of teenaged friends?

Saw someone say two women had gotten pregnant by him before Ezra

Really does it make you "feel some type of way", did you invent that phrase or just copy it of someone else who copied it.

​@shannonshannonbobannon5040 aw yeah the old I know a guy that knows a guy, yeap super reliable.

Lmao What movie? 😂

something about a lady stealing lemons and facing harrowing repercussions

​@@JustadonkeyStealing lemons!? 😅😅😅

Was it a Lifetime movie?...😂😂😂

I honestly can't even remember 🤷‍♀️ The lemon movie sounds pretty good though, it sounds like it's based in a communist country somewhere 🤔 🍋 I hope she was okay in the end 🙏 😆

It's a short-sleeved cardijean?

Or to be dating a 19 year old

It’s a political statement

Js

He got the idea from the delinquent character from The Breakfast Club, since he was going down to the police station for an interview, he figured this would make him fit in with the tough characters from the wrong side of the tracks lmao

Seems they are trying to emulate Friends, Seinfeld or Cheers. They’re all into each others’ business, gossip, and talking behind backs. He’s acting like a high school girl getting into all these details and reliving the disfunction. Doesn’t appear like a police interview, more like guys having a beer.

I think he's sweet but I can't fathom having to deal with that. I don't know anyone whose been in the military who talks like that. It's like having to display that he's in the service or something

I severely loathe arm chair experts who equate female murderers with borderline personality disorder. It's insulting and irresponsible to diagnosis someone when you're a youtube sciolist commenter. That's a rational summary of what it says about you, trying to act as though you've got noteworthy erudition in not only mental illness as a whole but the various mental illnesses within that domain, using that logic, does that mean you're then a narcissist who thinks they know everything? see the irony ;)

Or she was spoiled rotten her whole life and nobody gave her any coping or problem-solving skills. When they couldn't deal with her anymore they turned her loose. When he was saying that she would go for a drive and scream her head off and cry, that's spoiled brat syndrome. I'm not getting my way and I don't know how to cope. Unfortunately Alex was the one to pay the price with her latest tantrum😢

And they don’t have a sense of identity. Trying to be what they think others want.

X3 and a volunteer job

Seriously … he’s trying to say all the perfect things… “yea but anyway I’m really thinking about this PA thing..” like they are just casually chatting about his life/ career.

Or a selective one.

@@crystalshaw8744bingo!

Yes, but it's all just audio only since she was interviewed in the hospital.

​@@rottweilerinvestigationsI hope you post it! Just use stills of Ezra while you run the audio.

@Robyn Smeath Ezra interrogation. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vOBnyW6u1ZA.html

@@rottweilerinvestigations is there a link?

Criminals often lie about trauma to gain sympathy. I don’t believe a word from Ezra.

So glad she / they didnt bring babies into the situation🙈, no tellings who the father was I suppose!/?

@@ilb735 agreed I’m glad she didn’t obviously. I just meant that she could have used that as an opportunity to build a life instead of staying on her current destructive path. Now she will be in prison for most of her life with no chance to do any of the things she hoped to achieve.

Thanks! Perfect analysis of her. I have a slightly different theory about the love triangle’s impact on the killing, but there’s nothing wrong with your logic. Too bad we don’t have access to all of Alex’s writings. I wonder if the big dog can ferret them out? Whoops, I just now realized two key aspects of her you didn’t mention. One is her incredible stupidity, and I can see why Alex mocked her, but he should have taught her if he were kinder-he WAS a teacher, right? And another example is misunderstanding the therapist. You write your thoughts in a journal and keep it to yourself. “Journal” is not synonymous with “letter.” Another: She completely F-* up on the witness stand trying to explain why she chose the name “McCandless.” You can see her lawyer just dying inside at her stupidity. Geez she had to have attention 24/7 and not just think about things on her own. You need quiet, alone time to think. And super lazy! Couldn’t apply herself to school work and learn something about the way the world works. If you’re not learning, you should be earning. Didn’t budge to get a job to support herself. I don’t think she had a job that required her to borrow scrubs from Jason. A complete intellectual and financial parasite.

​@@just.joolie🎯

Ya, also consider the impact of what happened during her most important developmental years 1-5. Neglect can actually affect a child’s IQ. Emotional regulation is learned through mirroring and interactive modeling. i thought I heard them say she wasnt adopted until age 4…

Because manipulation isn't about any of those things, its about how low you're willing to stoop in order to connect the metaphorical dots you need to in another person's mind so you can achieve the intended goal

We are hardwired with innate responses as humans to certain environmental triggers. One just has to be willing to abuse those triggers so they can elicit the response they desire. She clearly employed the "damsel in distress" and "promiscuity" cards in order to control and manipulate the men in her sphere of influence

in fact, she’s not so smart...manipulation works when she’s dealing with immature people who don’t have much discernment

Shes fine

Being a bum and emotionally unavailable attracts immature men. They want to feel like they can take care of her and she made them feel just that. She pretends to have such a ''deep connection'' with everyone. Example her and Alex allegedly discussing philosophy until the early hours of the morning ( dramatic music playing ) but then when you sit her down and talk to her she sounds illiterate and can't pronounce words such as albeit. I can imagine what kind of deep conversation they must have had

@@soundsforyourmoods ya, that does makes sense 🙂

I think she was creating a slightly different persona for each person she wanted to attract. She was giving each one of them exactly what they wanted.

@@ellyisonyoutube4017 I think you’re right.

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Negative

{{{WoRD}}}

Think about how you’d feel if your sister had mental health problems and had guys with this moto after her. Life Better

he replied to someone else -- he does not

He barely takes a breath 😅

The case is in the Ezra McCandles trial playlist. Dude. You gotta watch those videos. The whole case is very interesting, sad, horrifying, maddening.

😂😂😂. You wrong. Funny tho.

😂😂😂too funny. I agree. Nasty side order.

⛳⛳⛳⛳⛳👏🏻 very valid question! 🛎⏰🛎⏰🛎

Nice catch. He is talking wayyy too much. And explaining a lot. I don't understand what these guys saw in her to put up with all that constant b.s.

Guys like to sexploit “crazy” girls

He had a very good alibi. I believe military reporting after he left Alex’s house. The police officers was there when he left and Alex was unharmed at that point.

I think he’s just super freaked out? He was like that in court except she was like straight staring at him and doing all sorts of weird stuff to throw him off. But honestly dude needs therapy.

It does sound like its a second one, but this is all they sent on him.

@@rottweilerinvestigations What's scary to me is how some people who were in the mix here looked at Jason as a bad guy...seemingly from what Ezra was telling them behind the scenes. Ezra told lies to everyone about basically everyone else. And no worries if it's not available. I fully appreciate how tricky getting this stuff is, and what a good job you are doing providing what you can. I just recall some loaded questions being asked by police to Ezra, indicating they suspected Jason of harming Alex. And here we see him exonerated and a source.

​@@OcrilatI'd assume it was more that they resented him for bringing her to Raceys into their friend group and buying into her BS for so long, while she blew up their entire friend group and then killed one of them. Not sure if I agree it was his fault, but I do see why they'd be salty or resentful about that.

​@@whims6278💯. He STILL believes Alex and John "assaulted" her and I can't even _fathom_ how eyeroll inducing his discussions were with his friends. I mean Alex is _dead_ and Jason's sitting there rattling off bullshit Ezra told him about Alex and it's like it's _gospel._ I'm getting _myself_ pissed off all over again.

Why was she not charged with making a false allegation when the charges against Hansen was dropped. Alex might still be alive today. Police let her off with that and they shouldn't.

stop being lazy.

fortunately most girls with borderline are great partners! i've dated many and they were all nice and nonabusive. and no, i don't have it. i agree they are more vivid than girls w/o it but that doesn't mean it's always a hassle.

But you're not with them now...

@@robynmarler1951have you maybe considered it wasn't their choice to no longer date....?? I don't understand why you'd even write that lol.

​@@SpecialBlanket🥹😭 Aw! This is so amazing of you. From someone who DOES have BPD, thank you ❤ The stigma around mental health is nuts already, but BPD gets an *exceptional* amount of misunderstanding/hate. You are awesome 🎉❤

Ok Freud.

I’m almost positive he is just parroting what Ezra told him about it.

She's definitely a narcissist