Jay Williams in disbelief over Max Kellerman's Kawhi vs. LeBron take | First Take 

because that's how god made him deal with it.

its the injury

God decided to form him like that, God does miracle wonders I tell you that

because he is a fanboy, fanboys are emotional and illogical

Jay blows

same dudes claim lakers were stacked earlier they flip flop every other week. Which ever way benefits lebron they always doing. When Lakers were 24-3 they were stacked deeper than any team in the west. Now that they losing to good teams lebron only has AD :/

resColts facts

Thats the truth bro the lakers team aside from lebron n AD is trash

Mcgree, Haward. rondo, Green and all of these guys has championships instead of Haward..so that argument.

@@letsgoyankees316 Were you saying that when they were killing everyone though? I doubt it. What about Dwight? he is not rejuvenated anymore? What D Green and Kuzma? How much more help does Lebron need?

because SAS be stealing they paycheck 😂

- 23 Stephen A ain’t wrong all time dummy, lol u funny

@@kingcollazo8376 dont like your own comment. Also the times SAS is right is when that something already happened...

- 23 I didn’t like my own comment it would have a blue color mine doesn’t have it

@@kingcollazo8376 Stehpen A Smith has incorrectly guessed the nba finals 6 years in a row. He does get everything wrong

Exactly, LeBron even said when asked they have everyone they need to compete for the title.

Lebron joined a lottery team (again) and made them playoff contenders. Kawhi joined an already built playoff team (again) just like the Raptors. The lakers literally had to pick up scraps in the offseason after waiting on Kawhi and he screwed them. People were not thinking of Dwight Howard as a good player before the season, or most of these dudes on the Lakers for that matter. Lebron has made them play better but NOBODY would be checking for Rondo, KCP, etc if they were on a different team.

@@professorfinesser4322 They have AD nuff said. Stop making excuses

Facts.

@@GamingJGBdbz what should he say, we got no chance with this roster to compete? ur delusional

The answer is the same though

Completely different?

Daniel Garth yeah bro, Giannis easily had the best season last year, but he still wasn’t the best player in the league. There were years where guys arguably had better SINGLE SEASONS then lebron but they were never better players than him

Kawhi is better today and haven't a better season

Jonathan Laque Kawhi has never gone ahead of Lebron in terms of ability. Kawhi won while Lebron was injured, he never actually took the crown off Lebron at any point. In fact Kawhi wasn’t even considered top 3 players in the league last season until a finals MVP performance against a (hurt) GSW. I think that’s what Jay is trying to say

He's trying trying to be like Stephen A

Man I feel the exact same way. He be too theatrical and it just isn't workin.

Stephen A did call him out one time during his show when he was trying hard to match his energy.

So Kawhi destroyed the league in the playoffs last year.... and Jay Will still won't stop crying his warriors lost? This dude is a straight clown, all he does is hate on Kawhi and ride Kobe and Lebron smh

It's like he's fighting for his job or something. It's obvious he's trying to show the executives that he has "personality" and can be "entertaining" but he just falls flat.

edward theophile 😂😂😂

You like Max? He is saying that he is a Laker then saying Kawhi is the best player on Earth because of winning a title last year with the raptors. Lol. He isn't a credible man to hear to. I pick uncle Shay and drip bayless over Max and SAS.

@@zekekasichiro-smith4725 neither is losing your last like 9 games😂. Quit being a bronsexual

Wasn’t he a Nicks fan first, then a lakers fan, and now he’s a clippers fan. Hardly ever waivers you right.

Isaiah McMurray calling someone who never brought up Lebron a bronsexual. Typical closeted Lebron fan.

He is In year 17.... But the problem is, LeBron has pushed the envelope so far in this league that you haters actually disregard his age!

@@johnstamos4325 sounds like you have a man crush for your boo

I remember Steven A. SMITH even saying AD is better than Kawhi.

Imagine being a clipper fan😂 your probably broke and coundnt afford laker tickets😂😂😂😂, so you have to go to cheap clipper games with empty seats😂 u probably not even from LA

Well his team with AD is currently the #1 in the west so what's your point

He was my favorite on SportsNation. Came to first take and was horrible lol. Getting better

He’s so annoying

Funny Stuff well he’s right on this one kawhi is the best player in the league until KD comes back if he’s the same

@holyful how he hasn’t even been that good year the clippers aren’t even that insnae even tho they got pg too he’s definitly not playing like he did last year and either way giannis is the best in the league

Funny Stuff I wanna be rude but I won’t if you think Giannis the best go ahead but if healthy the real best 3 are KD, Kawhi, Giannis in that order period you saying that the clippers aren’t that good makes me question your knowledge already yeah Giannis putting up great numbers and his team got the best record but he plays his heart out everyday and played every game like it’s his last and it’s not a knock on him that’s the only thing I love about him is his kobe approach to the game I don’t love his skill set or abilities to perform in halfcourt sets and in the clutch but when it comes down to it and kawhi is playing every game in the playoffs he’s just too elite on both ends and in the clutch in literally every part of the game half court , fast break , shooting driving mid range passing pick and roll coming off screens and playing defense there’s nothing he can’t do and he does it all at an elite level only KD rivals his talents at the moment Giannis and Luka can get there but they’re not at the moment

I completly forgot about Ryan Hollins. Is he fired from ESPN? I hope so.

😂😂😂

AHI this man said the Bucks are the best team lmfao the regular szn doesn’t show the best team!

Jarmel Bennett for real.

Rawr5649 doing more doesn’t mean ur better, especially if it doesn’t lead you to a win.

@Biggie Rozay who is this?

@Rawr5649 I respect your opinion however LeBron isn't better than him anymore. He has slowed and before you bring up stats look at him. Also Kawhi is entering his prime. LeBron is a great player but I think he's no longer the best in the league and that's not bashing. He's just gotten old. Father time man

Biggie Rozay lol who is that send a link or something

Lebron is in year what? The fact that Lebron is still being mentioned is enough!

If slightly then there is doubt :))))

@@johnstamos4325 NEVER been a Lebron Fan but GREAT POINT Lebron is playing at a higher level later in his career than like 90% of the dudes in the hall of fame.and he came out of high school so playing age he is more like 38 than 35 in Usage.Its Truly Outstanding BUT late in the game..in the playoffs or a Finals Series?.I'm choosing Kwahi All day every day!!

LEBRON HIS MORE ASSISTS THAN KAWAII HAS POINTS PLS STFU GOOFY CLOWN

Its incredible to me people even think Kawhi is top 3 in the league. Lebron is definitely better

I think you mean LOSE..not "loose" as in loose skin or your baggy jeans being loose..lol

Lebron got that loose loose lmao

@@shaunm5919 You are probably the only internet grammar police I liked. That's the way to point out a grammatical error.

I'm a Lakers fan!! So true!

Bruce Wayne Jay Will is crazy if he thinks anyone is scared of the Bucks lmfao maybe some of these teams in the East but the East doesn’t win Ships lmfao

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Why is Damon even on first take to began with

😆😆😆😆 all he doing is agreeing. lebron got him that job

Nah his role in the media is like the one he had in the nba. He in yhe background

he's the same man that got soup thrown on him

He is the next ryan hollins

I agree

- 23 Man I don’t know how he’s on the court at all. He brings nothing. Never wanted to see someone just pull a hamstring so bad in my life

Gotta play Quinn cook more

@Paul Bearer The logic doesnt make sense. Vogel played him in some closing lineups and if you want Rondo to have the ball over Lebron u are a moron and if you want rondo to play off ball you are a moorn so i cannot understand why is Vogel being a moron

Playoff rondo hits different tho i don't think it'll be enough against clip city

Thank you, all these expert seeing Lebron has to do more so he is better, GTFO, kawhi doesnt need to do much so he is relaxing, we have just seen what he can do when Paul George was out

So Kaload having to average 30 for the team to win is doing less? Btw Lebron has AD. So he def has to do less.

Sean Aniyunwiya So that only proves Bron has more help…

@@seananiyunwiya4644 no man, try to learn and stop being a hot head, if you watched the games kawhi had to do a little bit more during the absence of Paul george

@J Day He doesn't have to do that, it's what he WANTS to do, and always has.

Facts

A M he will never be my favorite he never played sports lol but he right here

A M because he sucks kawhi like u makes sense

​@@WeKNOWTHETRUTHITSUNDISTPUTED LoL. Wake up, LBJ is one of the greatest, no one is denying that.. But right now, Kawhi > LBJ, and it is ok, LBJ is 35. I don't get why people get offended by this.

No no Max is annoying also but he is right about the topic !

A M no one is offended the point is kawhi can only dream of being this good when he’s 35 I know people make the wheelchair jokes but kawhi will never be playing this good in his 17th year also If I was kawhi it would be pathetic I not be better than a 35 year old the problem is kawhi has less responsibilities than James if James has a bad game the lakers are most likely losing if kawhi has a bad game Lou Williams or Harrell and can save the day just think that now the clippers 5th leading score averages 19 if James had 2 guys coming off the bench averaging 19 y’all wouldn’t stop talking about how much help James has

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When is he ever wrong

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How dare you use the "white people" words?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@WVY KING clippers beat lakers twice already and kawhi too em to school

WVY KING lebron has been stopped by kawhi many times

EVERYTIME.

The Kross many times that’s funny because there only 1 time kawhi has beat lebron in the playoffs and kawhi has lost one

Tbh Bron should consider changing his last name to Leonard at this point

Facts

Not true bt its ur opinion

@J Day Nick nurse was a rookie coach last year. He came from the d leauge stop making excuses

blazinpyromaniac i think because Kawhi can be more effective off ball his teams can achieve a higher ceiling. Lebron led teams are too dependent on Lebron and naturally have a lower ceiling because fewer guys will play well on any given night and Lebron has to be heroic in order to win. Don’t believe me. Two out of three of Lebron’s titles came down to coin flip games. Give the man respect for having three titles but it very easily could be just one title.

How does a guy who supposedly "needs everything to be perfect to his style if play" make the playoffs 15/17 years? One being his rookie season and the other an injury season.

This guys arrogance is astonishing.

For real. Can’t stand Jay

Jay's an emotional bronsexual xd

@@metalsadman the clippers could sweep the lakers from jay Williams the Lakers are better than the clippers

why is Jay Williams ALLOWED TO talk NBA basketball 🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂

You have to have great self-control not to punch Max in the face sometimes...

He just has a different view

@Karan Gill yeah he’s generally an angry as disrespectful when he debates. I HATE it. He goes for personal attacks and sounds super pissy.

Karan Gill he deserves it lol max is “woke”

timothy rodilosso Max schooled him.

Max is a knicks fan that doesn’t want to be associated with them

@@Bryan-fn2el he said multiple times hes "a lakers fan"

No real Lakers fan want's to see the Clippers do anything

aajr 23 he only says that because he’s tired of the Knicks clownish behavior. My point is, he’s a bandwagon fan

@@Bryan-fn2el agreed

I don't understand this analogy. How does this correlate?

Ja will a nerd where ???

Huh?!

@@hfr8343 you must one of the nerds!!

HFR83 he’s so poor, how is the opinion that kawhi is better then lebron so mind blowing...kawhi might be better, lebron might be better whatever side you stand, there close!

Give Lebron that team and a HOF coach he’ll win 3 in a row

He might get 3 with PG lol

@@larriors9124 he doesent want to gr8et coaches remember so how would that work 🤔 ?

NBA 2k mobile that’s if Kwahi play

@@larriors9124 look at this cap lol

😂😂🤣🤣🤣

Lebron had more clutch moments in his career then kawhi played games

@@aajr2366 people have a short memory because he got hurt last year

Kawhi had one great playoff run and he ready for the big moment and Lebron not lol

Lol Kawhi is always ready but Bron might be ready y’all really just be talking

@@@FireAngelChrisand the rest of LJ lovers, your boy still avoids the big moment. It took him years to even get to that moment.

7digit Mafia stop crying he’s talking about this season and in all of the losses this year Lebron hasn’t played good

@7digit Mafia oh you mean the made up "5min clutch time" stat espn made to artificially bump lebron's "clutch" shots? When no one ever thinks of clutch as starting that early into the 4th quarter?

@7digit Mafia all time when lebron has more years of playing time than them lol nice way to have "more" stats instead of the average per season

David What you’ve seen and what the numbers say are two different things my guy.

@7digit Mafia he hits clutch shots when matters less. 🤣 that's why

😂😂😂

Clay Davis then what does that make u sense he made it

Scrub at what?he was in a career ending accident after his rookie season before he ever got started,he was the 2nd overall draft pick behind yao ming...what are you talking about

I'd rather roll with people who love than hate.

Lebron winning the chip this year and there's nothing you can do about it

There a lot of Kawhi meat riders tho

@@woah4843 fr who sat out all season with sas ask for trade doin load management man plz

Christopher Hendricks yeah Kawhi can’t be the best player if he not even playing even tho LeBron on my Lakers I think Giannis is better then him

Thomas Zouki He not the best player in the nba tho 💯

@@marr260 He's not but I would take him over Lebron. Lebron is nowhere to be found EVERY time it matters

Thomas Zouki "Everytime"? Including the last Lakers game vs the Nuggets, what about Game 5 vs Pistons in 2007, Games 6-7 vs Boston in 2012, Games 6-7 vs Spurs in 2013, or Games 2-3 vs Warriors in 2015, Games 5-7 vs the Warriors in 2016?

@@Heart_ken01 Hello Obi, I like your argument alot. I think he did play amazing against the pistons and that boston serie you are referring to. But I will argue that against the spurs in 2013 he almost lost and didnt control that serie and I will also argue that the warriors dont have any players that I accuse lebron of not being. They do not have any killers. In the recent years, when hungry players that aspire to be #1 (kawhi, giannis) come at lebron, he does not show his teeth and attack the challenge head on. He instead downplays the importance of the matchup and prefers being friends with those guys instead of smacking them. Lebron is my favorite player but this is something that pisses me off about him and this is why I think theyll lose to the clippers this year

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and Giannis doesn't affect on both ends?

Everything Kawhi can, Giannis can do better (but shoot)

I Will say defensively it is close but kawhi has a slight edge over him but Gianni's is young and will be better should his ethic remain steady imo

What have you seen giannis play??

Mikhail Jones Giannis is unstoppable in the paint & in a couple years perimeter

47 til infinity I was waiting for the Molly interruption and it was..nothing just silence amazing I could actually watch first take again if she’s gone

You people don't care at all about the sports discussion lol. You're just here to pathetically whine about a woman who speaks for maybe 30 seconds out of an hour. Abandon your life

@@RepubliconCelebrityPresidents we do care about the sports but when you have stephen A yelling and molly yelling to interrupt with a dumb comment its hard to tune in

needsalt yeah he’s literally waiting on the bench, resting all year to play in the playoffs.

needsalt as much as I love Kawhi I have to agree with you here...

Same with LeBron

@@johnnyboy3410 while I can understand your criticisms LeBron has actually played most of the games just saying

Fallacy

Like the fact that Kawhi sits on the bench when he has a tummy ache? Put Kawhi on any of the early Cavs rosters and he would never bring em to the finals maybe not even the playoffs. The fact is, hate him or not LeBron on any team becomes an instant contender.

Dalkuraan you LBJ diehards refuse to see what’s happening right in front of you..and I feel sorry for you. But 2 and 0 over Lebron and his more fancied Lakers, is what it is. Facts. No more excuses please..enough of the “ kawhi would never bring the early Cavs to the finals, playoffs..or whatever cause its embarrassing. I for one respect LBJ and all he’s achieved, but the Lebronsquad go way overboard with the comparisons and excuses. If not for Ray Allen, LBJ might still only be on 2 rings.

Dalkuraan put Lebron on the raptors last year they’re not winning the finals clown

Marcanthony Garcia yes they do and probably easy. In the conference finals and nba finals there were stretches sometimes even quarters where Kawhi literally did nothing of significance on either end of the floor and the Raptors were still in the game or still maintained the lead or even increased it. It’s easy to praise Kawhi when he’s always been on strong teams while Lebron had to play on weak teams.

​@@Pohara68. You want to talk about embarrassing? If you are going to debate someone on a "TEAM" game, don't come with this weak argument that "oh if not for this player or that player" Lebron wouldn't have any rings. Give me a break.. and you are not the only one guilty of this. Unlike many, regardless of my stance, I respect all players, but this whole notion of Lebron needing someone to win is ridiculous. Am I here saying if Kerr or Paxton didnt hit their shots Jordan would only have so many rings? Or if Pippen never joined the Bulls, Jordan would have never gotten passed the Pistons or getting Jordan to the legendary status that hes in? NO, because in a TEAM game all plays and players count. The fact is the Cavs needed Kyrie's dagger 3 to win just as much as Lebron's huge block prior to that to beat a 73 win team coming back from a 3-1 deficit. Truth is you put a transcendent player like LeBron on a elite org like the Spurs, led by a legendary coach like Popovich, with players like Parker, Genobli, and lets not forget Tim Duncan, you can forget 2 or 3 rings..

Real Is Real lmao LeBron will show you again. Look at Brons 2018 playoff stats. 34-9-9 lmao

@@ryanrider959 Kawhi's 2019 playoffs stats are better

Real Is Real you’re on crack my guy

Real Is Real Bron averaged 34-9-9 and Kawhi averaged 30-9-4, like lay off the crack my guy lol

@@ryanrider959 Kawhi played 39mins while LBJ played 42mins. Bruh

Chris ain't going back. That FOX salary is nice. Got his own show. He chilling.

FS1 would have to offer Chris and 4 first round picks to get Max lol

@@emmanuelmoses7249 Danny Ainge will find away to make his way into that trade and take all the picks if they hit the lotto. My Celtics still won't win it all because we're the Spurs of the east.

Max on FS1 would be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Noah Fang 🤣🤣🤣Bron still better 💪🏽

@@marr260 how so? Stop treating him like the no.1. he ain't.

@J Day go watch the game again

Wrong

He was wrong tho

ikr they don't even realize how stupid they sound SMH

He is though

Because you gotta see his performances during the post season and then compare that. These are regular season games he doesn’t care about I can promise you that

Lol you got a point but I don't think the fans of any of those guys just got over it easily either

I wish he stayed with yall though imagine him still on raptors, they would kill every team in the playoffs even worst than last year.

So don’t use the Lehelp excuse if they win because we see which LA team needs it more but they already had the best roster 🤷🏽‍♂️

Jerm Bug news flash before trade deadline clippers was always beating lakers. Now it might just be over in 4-5 games.

I for J ' I dont think you get what I’m saying. If they already had the best roster why do you need more lol Lebron always got criticized over it but now since it’s kawhi it’s nothing 😂

Jerm Bug You think Kawhi went to clippers and said trade for Morris? Everybody on the team said they’re fine with the team. And MANAGEMENT still made a trade to increase chance to win. All they did was trade a 3&D player and replaced him with a better version 🤷🏾‍♂️ Lakers was trying to get him at that. Lakers fault they ain’t make a move to get better.

Jerm Bug and Lebron always played GM to make his team better. Lebron lakers have enough if y’all claim he is who y’all think he is. Legit two top 5 players on the same team.

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Lisa Rose bro these ppl fail to realize this man is in his 17th season. You can’t name 3 players in the history of the NBA who were arguably the best player in the world in year 17. It’s ridiculous ppls logic when talking about Lebron.

Look at Portland record please

They couldn't even handle a center-less Rockets

And the Lakers won’t handle them AFTER the trade.

He left the west went to the east his first year and won a ring. It’s pretty simple

But the real question is the fate of the universe on the line?

@@imhere5660 against hurt teams. Look at the Raptors without hin, same record. Kawhi is incredibly overrated

Jack Son the raptors always been champions of the regular season but they were never champions till Kawhi and won’t be after.

Uncle Jrue 😂😂

Aznjerrick every time bro, smh poor max 😂

Lmao you believe kawhis more clutch than kobe?????

you mean his reaction every time someone hurts his feelings when talking about his idols?

Yeah but that's regular season. He's just dunks and occasional 3s if he's lucky. They just pack the paint in playoffs and he's pretty average. Kawhi got the midrange, the 3, the handle

Why boast like the east aint "weak"

John50 Beach who does the clippers have that’s big enough to “pack” the paint with compared to the raptors last season though? And why is everyone forgetting that the bucks are 2-0 against the clippers rn? Smh

John50 Beach & What defensive big men do the clippers have to “pack the Paint?” ZUBAC? They dont have 2 former defensive player of the year big men like the raptors did.

BucDaWorld exactly

W V facts !!

@Notorious Looks like you're wrong.

mike brown 😑😑😑 he limping while running fool he had two major injuries

@@izell9464 *I said 👉🏽 potentially do you know what potentially means?*

Iggy must be the only other finals MVP in history because max doesn’t talk about any of them, don’t understand singling out Iggy

Boski Gwalla maybe because Kawhi is a different breed than Iggy

@@julianojeda1502 Mannnnnnn, everybody that knows about the NBA KNOWS how big the gap is between Iggy and Kawhi is😒😒.....honestly, that has nothing to do with Max ALWAYS having to constantly say things like "Kawhi is the reigning Finals MVP! He's going into the season as the current Finals MVP!"....and he did the same thing to Durant the previous 2 years, LeBron in 2016....and not just him honestly; you pretty much either hear people bring up Kawhi's 2019 award *or* the other players' awards in previous years. But I singled out Iggy because literally almost nobody went into the 2015-2016 season saying things like "Iggy is the current Finals MVP! He is in the top tier of players in the league! Because of his "stellar" defense on LeBron in those 6 games (which honestly is a weak argument because LeBron was still getting his numbers and only struggled heavily in little spurts compared to how he did in 2007; the Cavs suffered from injuries to *important* players, which impacted the Cavs losing that year *WAY* more than Iggy's defense on LeBron), Iggy deserves to be in the conversation as one of the best in the game!".....I'm just saying that Max iis always acting like being the MVP in a best-of-7 series automatically makes you a top 5 player, if NOT the best player in the whole game.... But nobody felt that way about Iggy. He's just trying hard to spread the narrative that Kawhi is the best in the game, since he's always liked him and wants to "spice things up" when it comes to crowning the kinf of NBA to somebody that's NOT LeBron....I mean, just look; The other Finals MVPs in the last decade, besides Iggy and 2014 Kawhi, were all either top 5 in the league OR at their position (Dirk being a top 5 power forward in the league at the time of his championship).....he even feels that Kawhi's performance in 2014 made him 3rd and even sometimes says 2nd to LeBron and Durant at the time (although again, LeBron was STILL getting his numbers; his performance was very similar to Iggy's the next year in 2015 with just more effective scoring).

@@julianojeda1502 And look, I'm not hating on Kawhi or trying to come off as negative towards him or his accomplishments or anything like that AT ALL. I honestly have always liked Kawhi after 2014 and the way he plays and got way better in 2014-2015, even though I'm a Lakers fan.... I even have him currently in my top 50 all time and his 2 Finals MVPS along with his other stats, the effectiveness of his style of play, and total accomplishments so far have me even putting him in around top 30, 35 all time the more that I think about it, and honestly (along with Durant if he can come back HEALTHY next year and wins about 2 more rings in Brooklyn as their leader and Giannis, if he stays healthy and dominate for the rest of his career and stays in Milwaukee and wins at LEAST 3 to 4 championships as their leader), I'm strongly predicting that he'll be top 10 or at LEAST top 15 of all time and if he keeps staying consistent with winning and can show that he can also beat those 2 in potential Finals matchups in the future IF they stay in the same conferences that they're currently in right now and even leads the Clippers to a ring BEFORE LeBron gets my Lakers a ring & retires in a few years, which would make him the first player EVER to win a ring, and more than likely 3 Finals MVPS, with 3 different teams, as well as being known as the one that gave BOTH Toronto and the Clippers their first championship, which is a very very huge accomplishment, ESPECIALLY when it comes to helping the Clippers win their first championship ever, because up till now, they've been a big laughingstock of the league when it comes to their franchise history & it's "accomplishments" (the team has ALWAYS been in the shadow of the Lakers ever since the team went to Los Angeles, although a legit can be made that the majority of the last decade after the Lakers' last championship that they've been more consistent than us when it comes to production, wins, etc).....I always gotta give credit when credit is due; it's only right. Facts yo 🤷‍♂️💯 I just don't understand why Max constantly talks like being the MVP of the most current Finals *AUTOMATICALLY* puts you in the category top 5 in the league, if not top 2 or 3 according to his logic. It'd be different if he was using something else besides Kawhi's award to back up his arguments/points....but the fact that he basically considers Kawhi the best in the league because "He's the reining Finals MVP! He lead Toronto thru a LeBron-less Eastern conference and won the championship and was the MVP of the series! (Although Kawhi did have a historic run in the playoffs last year, but that's because the point)", it's just annoying and flawed to an extent. Being a Finals MVP DOES strengthen the argument by a lot though, I'm not saying that it doesn't matter if you're the MVP or not, but it's the way he's going about it and is pretty much saying that that's the #1 reason that he's the best in the league right now. Because nobody said the same thing about Iggy or even Kawhi in 2014. That's all I'm saying🤔🤷‍♂️💯