Jeanette "Janet" Braun / Lauren The Mortician Statement Reaction 

Love the fact that EVERYONE is now calling her Janet.

​@@noneofyobiznizz9516, dammit, Janet I law you

"Ummmm.... She has a Reddit."

Janet works because I'm from NZ and Janet is our version of Karen.

She hates being called Janet too it’s brilliant

With no direct statements (of fact) about safety….

It's bad, but it's not the same as telling the cops you're on a rampage, and just killed a bunch of people. Wellness check is a 5 to a swattings 11.

​@@Dupayuhasni direct statements of harm at all.

exactly this I'm wondering at what point they're held accountable for this

There was a woman on TikTok literally a week ago sharing her story that her dad called a wellness check on himself and the police came in and shot him dead in his home, it is absolutely swatting

Yes, for sure. And false wellness checks affect how police approach the real ones.

I'm so sorry for your loss. Your mother's case is exactly why wellness checks are important, and why it's so upsetting these two weaponized them in such a petty way.

Depending on where you live, you might be able to get MH services to give them a call as opposed to sending someone around as well. Obviously that won't be enough in some cases and isn't to be used instead of emergency services if they're needed, but it's a way of checking on them without escalating as much if you don't actually need to or it could make things worse.

You’re 100% correct. So sorry for what you’ve had to deal with hun❤️ life’s never fair but I hope it treats you a great deal better❤️

i'm sorry that happened. that's exactly the reason wellness checks are crucial and should be treated with respect, not as playthings to upset people janet argues with online. may your mother's memory be a blessing.

either that or she's choosing not to.

Right? If I was The Girlies lawyer I would be having a field day with the hypocrisy. And I doubt he's the only one she has done it too, either. Just the only one that blew up enough for us to know about.

In her suit, Janet claimed that Bekah Day's stated desire to ensure there were no rogue attorneys on TikTok meant that Day was out to destroy Janet's career. The idea that she could change her behavior was literally inconceivable to Braun.

The GoFundMe for the girls' defense was called the Damnit Janet fund! 😂

@@beeee3722 Perfect!

I kind of assumed that was half the reason people were calling her that in the first place lol

Every time someone calls her Janet I always think of that episode of SpongeBob. "JANET? MARTY? WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?" 😂

I think it Every. Single. Time.

Wait did someone call in a wellness check? /sarcasm

finish your drink every time Janet insists on being referred to as attorney Janet

@@TheLabRatCometh I think your liver could survive that. lol

@@TheLabRatComethit’s GEEnet dammit Janet! 🤭

Not only quadrupled but has now compared their situation to The Inquisitors situation like how tone deaf can you be

I hope the judge refers Braun for a "Rule 215(a)" mental health evaluation. If there's really nothing seriously wrong with her, she would be able to convince a licensed professional that she's merely a flaming asshat, but this _might_ serve as a wake-up call.

i agree tbh, she should have faced sanctions from the very first legal "document" she emailed to KC's mother.

Idk why anyone would be stoopid enough to take this case. Did Benji not go on the internet and do research before accepting it? I hope he ends up with a slapped wrist too.

Given how slow normal legal proceedings are, I'm sure most disbarment proceedings are even slower.

As a person who has worked in the legal arena for 30+ years, I agree 100%.

​@@PeteOttonis a process, usually sanction/censure, suspension, then disbarment but in this case --IMO ONLY-- the third stage might be warranted. Also, she has no notion of how to draft, submit, or even sign a filing. I was a legal assistant to an Illinois attorney (the state in which Janet is admitted to the Bar) and no attorney I've ever encountered signs filings, letters, any kind of professional document, with only their first name.

she called in the check and made a point of introducing herself as a barred attorney. it was such a transparent attempt to throw her weight around that i'm amazed she hasn't been in more trouble for it yet.

I think she got that law license in a Christmas cracker.

She AND her client BOTH called in a wellness check, EACH. Unbelievable.

@@zubetpkey word: yet. If this doesn’t come back to bite her I’ll be shocked

I wish I couldn’t believe it… seems a bit too common. It’s just usually the ones that do it are more clever about it. Unfortunately.

Probably couldn't find work at a legitimate practice so she hung her shingle on the Internet.

to be fair, i think she's choosing to not understand playing characters. she's mad and needs an actual reason.

IP lawyers aren't necessarily "social media and the internet" lawyers. They can be but not always. I'm saying she's out of her depth, she's a f'n patent attorney or something. She's WAY out of her depth. And OMG did she really do a tic-toc press release? if so shows how much out of her depth she is.

To be fair, a lot of the newer kids have no idea how social interaction online works, but Janet takes it to a special level that suggest she's playing dumb. That's the catch though, as it would be particularly hard to discern the degree to which she feigns ignorance, given how much genuine ignorance she exhibits. We should be wary to not overanalyze a dumpster fire.

@@zubetpmad as in hatter😂

I think she has assumed that everyone has a lawyer who is as terrible as she is?

@@hawkeyescoffee6399 I think Janet is so narcissistic that she thinks she's smarter than everyone else. She can't even see how foolish she appears to anyone with some common sense.

Like, is she trying to set criminal precedence or civil precedence? Does precedence even apply in civil cases?

janet _is_ pretty crazy. i wonder if she could benefit from someone checking on her wellness.

I think her craziness is creating some form of anti-humiliation force-field around her. 😂

Had she been in Canada her original 'shared opinion' of Greyson regarding his orientation in combination with his profession, would be considered Hate Speech.

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 its not a law.. its the charter of rights and freedoms. much like american constitution. its not a 'ridiculous' law in the sense of minorities as it originally was penned for hate groups. it now just blankets. personally myself I am fine with this 'law', as it does reserve your right to have an opinion as long as you dont out right call out an attack on the individuals you have an opinion on. i find it strange that anyone would find any pride in allowing for any minority to be hated upon.... but hey... you do you.

​@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 "you can't give different people the ability to say different things" is a pretty deliberate and gross misrepresentation of hate speech laws. I'm pretty sure someone of any persuasion or orientation would be under fire for invoking hateful "gay men are child predators" rhetoric. It has nothing to do with the offense of a subject and everything to do with penalising people who make unwarranted attacks on protected characteristics.

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Somehow you've managed to prove the point of the original comment when it's right above your head, staring at you. You do not get to wrongfully disparage the character of someone just based on something they cannot control (race, sexuality, etc.) without consequences. Especially not when your words cause the person you were disparaging to suffer damages to their business. Regardless of the true meaning of free speech (which isn't even about the individual, it's about the PRESS), you need to grow up. Gay people have done nothing to you to deserve your word vomit of bigotry.

Same, the way I RAN for my headphones

Me too! Had to grab my AirPods because husband is watching football but, like, Runkle is covering Janet’s latest response! 😂 way more entertaining than football!

Yessssssssssss

SAME. I was just watching cc’s latest video and was hoping for a runkle update 🎉

100%

i'm glad you're doing better now. i was in almost exactly the same situation about a decade ago.

Glad you got through. The world needs you here! ❤

Yeah I was the friend in a situation similar to yours. I had been talking to a girl online for a couple of weeks, we both struggled with mental health and had shown each other pictures of our self harm so when she sent me a message saying "goodbye

It doesn't even have to be an office, just a mailing address. But even then, a "law firm" that doesn't have an office? Do they meet with clients at the local Starbucks?

Someone said he passed the bar or graduated in 2018, a year before Janet, so likely another sol, and obviously fairly newly qualified. I wonder if he had the same professors who seem to have taught Janet copyright law wrong? Janet has all kinds of signs of narcissism, given the way she seems to have insisted on beingnreferred to as Attorney Braun in this and the way she went off in the cease and desist about "don't call me jeanette, we aren't friends, it is Attorney Braun or ..." (I can't remember what the alternative was but it was equally as douchey". I think one of my concerns (other than her not having a clue what Fair Use is or how it works or, apparently, what defamation is) in all this is that not only she doesn't seem to have been aware that negative consequences would come from frivolously and repeatedly striking hudreds of creators in order to silence them... but at no point has she warned her clients. Anyone who works in internet law should be aware of things like pissing off a fan base and the Streisand Effect, and they should always give their client a warning about such things. She has actively harmed her clients' businesses, she is the one that caused most of the damage to Lauren's business. All she has cared about is billable hours by the sohnd of it.

@hawkeyescoffee6399 I looked up "their" site. Ben is a kid, can't be over thirty, and a clerk who is studying for a law license. There is zero information on where he got his degree or how long he's been practicing. The site gives a laundry list of stuff they do that is way too broad for one attorney and one clerk to be capable. He's too dumb to know this is a train wreck, and too desperate for work to turn it down if he did know.

@@hawkeyescoffee6399 If she loses her licence we should all call her "Former Attny Braun".

​@@briant7265 no... Zoom. Maybe discord or Facebook messenger on evenings. 😂🤣

Right?! Something tells me every well meaning person in their lives ran for the hills years ago. The fact they don’t have anyone that cares stopping them is an indication in itself of what they’re like as human beings.

Seriously. Lauren’s parents are business owners, so it’s not like they’re inept with the ability to support their adult child. My mom would be wrangling me in to temporarily log off - and because I’m ADHD, maybe even question if I was manic. 😂

"We 'specialize' in whatever area a prospective client needs representation in. It just takes a quick brush-up on line for an hour or so."

​@@jpolowin0 idk if they even brush up. Lol.

@@hawkeyescoffee6399 I mean if they don't proofread, I'm not sure how much we can count on in-depth research regarding potential clients. IJS lol

Also, is it just me or was that entire 'bio' at the end for the law firm just inappropriate? Idk, it just felt like an odd placement to me for some reason.

I believe Ben Lockyer is a former classmate of Janet Braun (at the very least, both went to the same law school) and is a younger attorney developing his career. Therefore the "boutique law firm" description...

My guess is she's newly barred, couldn't find work in a legitimate practice and so she has zero actual lawyering experience. She hung her shingle on the Internet because no one would hire her and she has no idea what she's doing. It takes a long time to develop lawyering skills and specialty knowledge. She's throwing her education away by behaving like a lunatic. She's going to face consequences with the bar at some point.

She is a real lawyer, she’s just very new. I personally went and checked, as have many others

If you look at the cease and desist letter he covered previously, she had a demand for compensation which she wanted done by a certain time period. Its either a demand letter or a blackmail letter, no way is it a cease and desist, also way too many mistakes in it for it to have come from an attorneys office

@@schwubs She passed the bar at the end of 2019, in lawyer years I don't know how new that makes her.

@@schwubs If you read her interview for the Chicago Bar magazine from 2020/10/28 (it is linked on her website, RU-vid can be funny about putting in links) she talks about the reasons that she is a sole practitioner. In a nutshell she says that she didn't want to be tied down to only working in one niche area and she had years of experience as a patent agent before passing the bar and the practices that she was interviewing at weren't taking that experience into account when they were deciding her potential pay and how junior she would be (she thought her experience should push her up the ranks, the practices didn't agree).

💯

Oh yeah she's cruising for an Ethics complaint at the least..

I suspect CK has already submitted a complaint, and I doubt she is the only one. I think anyone (in the US) who she has sent cease and desist letters to (especially those with threats/blackmail) or where she tried to take down their vids on her or her clients, has probably submitted complaints too. I seem to recall The Girlies asking their fans not to submit them because it could lead to the genuine complaints from people harmed by them getting overlooked or everytnjng discarded as a harrassment campaign instead. I hope the The Girlies are also considering counter suing too. They should bring Jamie in on it too.

Unfortunately, while at least some of the defendants live in a state with an anti-SLAPP law, Janet has filed in federal court - this is why she's asserting that the damages are "at least $75,000" because that level of damage is one of the requirements for a federal court to have jurisdiction. In particular, she's filed in federal court in a circuit that has taken a dim view of whether anti-SLAPP laws may apply, since there is apparently some conflict between the early dismissal of suits allowed anti-SLAPP motions and the Rules of Federal Procedure, which set different timings and different standards of evidence/burden of proof. So it's fairly likely that such a motion would be denied.

I guess there are bad eggs in every profession. Not all doctors are brilliant and not all lawyers have common sense.

Because she’s pretending to be professional.

RU-vid says thank for your dollar . .

I would have never anticipated an attempted 1A precedent in this social niche, and a rogue ringleader like Janet behind the scenes, to boot. 😂 I guess the commentary/reaction space *is* fertile ground for 1A battles! Damn it, Janet indeed!

Anyone with enough money. A decade or two ago for-profit education discovered that law was a lucrative field to run a diploma mill in. Minimal up-front costs, no expensive equipment, and lots of applicants because they believe being an attorney guarantees high salary. Schools with established reputations will still have stricter standards, but a lot of places offer law programs and don't worry about quality.

My wonderful doctor once told me a joke: Q: What do you call someone who graduates last in their medical school class? A: Doctor. Lawyers prob have worst-in-class graduates too.

Ah, another Rocky Horror Picture Show fan. I can no longer watch the movie. The last time I watched it, I was in hard labor with my first child. Now, if I even hear the music "Let's Do the Time Warp . . ." I start having phantom labor pains.

I recall one being in trivia news during peak COVID 🙂

Oh, definitely one for parrots too

@@OldGrey_Cat That's funny! Still though, she was talking about it being negative. Idk if dogs and parrots were slinging insults at each other lol

"Never interrupt your enemies when they are making a mistake"

i'm not sure about that when it comes to lawsuits. if there's a court date set for any purpose, and they don't show up, they could lose by default.

@zubetp I think this is just about issuing statements in the "press" and trying to litigate in the court of public opinion. The defendants counsel haven't said shit because they are doing the lawyering for actual court.

Janet: "I want to just be able to strike down anyone's content freely just because they hurt my fee fees or because I can bill the suckers I work for more until they are broke...and I want to do it without anyone telling me "no" and that I "am wrong about what Fair Use is"...Wahhh!"

I doubt she went to an acclaimed school, but I wouldn't blame the law school. She has big "c's get degrees" energy to me. I think when people get post secondary degrees, we assume they must all be really smart and get top grades, but you can totally JUST make it to graduation.

​@@amandamacabreThere's absolutely a point where the school itself would be embarrassed by the people who crawled over the threshold to a degree. "What do you call someone who graduated at the bottom of their class? Doctor."

@@clockside for sure. I just think there's more Janets out there in every profession than we think there is, and I don't know if its entirely because the school was "bottom-tier" vs the students being willing to do the bare minimum to get by. The only thing special about Janet imo is she's coupled low effort with an undeserved superiority complex.

She went to the worst law school in Illinois. They have pretty lax acceptance requirements.

Same here! 🎉 Ian is fantastic, and love how he is covering and showcasing how Janet doesn’t like to try picking on people her own size 😂😂😂 so to speak!

Same!

Same! Keep it coming!

Why do wellness checks even exist?

@@the11382because when utilized without malicious intent, they can save lives.

@@the11382 because they serve a purpose, when not used as a weapon. if you have a loved one, say, a parent, that lives far away and you can't get them to respond to communication attempts for a while and that's unusual, you can call to have someone check in and make sure they aren't in any trouble.. such as a fall or even death. Employers can use them for employees that don't show up to work and can't be reached, and that's not a normal behaviour.. and other such situations. They're normally meant to be a good thing.

​@@the11382You just have to be very careful calling them in. Imagine you live in a seperate state from your elderly grandparent or parent. You haven't heard from them in a week or so, and that's unusual. So you try calling, maybe getting in contact with nearby people if you know any. But if you don't know any and you can't just take a day off work to check on them, you might call in a wellness check and outline the specific situation. You NEVER EVER imply that someone is a danger to others, that can end with police literally busting down the door - that's just a sibling to SWATing someone.

@@the11382suppose you have a family member who lives in another state, and you believe they are in some kind of danger - you believe they may be sick, having a mental health crisis, be struggling with addiction, be injured, be the victim of stalking, any reason that you might want to be able to check on them. they aren't responding to your texts and calls go straight to voicemail. you don't know their neighbors. what do you do? the purpose of the wellness check is to be able to send someone to check on them as soon as possible, when you can't do it yourself.

I think because she has made herself a plaintiff, she can't represent herself and a client at the same time (conflict of interests and all). I still think she is still dictating the direction of the case, she just can't be listed as counsel.

From one of Runkle’s previous videos, ‘Janet’ may have broken the lawyer client privilege. But I imagine it’s just that she is a complainant in this case.

I do wonder if this whole lawsuit puts their attorney client privilege in jeopardy tbh. Discovery will be interesting, but a lot of her statements, etc, are already tiptoeing on the line imo. I just think she got butt hurt and wanted to join in the lawsuit...and probably the only thing she remembered from law school is that "an attorney who represents themself has a fool for a client"!

I believe Ben Lockyer (the lawyer in charge) is a former classmate of Janet Braun (at the very least, both went to the same law school) and is a younger attorney developing his career. Therefore the "boutique law firm" description...

@@NoOneSpecial247 So, Janet’s perfect patsy.

oof, stay warm!

Not really, think in terms of class action, granted in this case low class heh. the kind of conflicts you think of are mostly defendant based.

Well, I knew her at some point so needless to say, I have become riveted by this whole mess

@@shytowngrlwas she always like this?

@@Julia-543 she definitely took herself very seriously and there were a few stories I had heard of things that upset her that seemed off to me. I definitely didn't imagine this and was shocked when I randomly came across all of this.

I think at this point they have a pair of backhoes and are halfway to hell. 😂