Jesus The Magician: Charlatan or Son of God? | Dr. Andrew Henry @ReligionForBreakfast 

Resurrection is a metaphor for vindication

Yeah interpreting Jesus' resurrection as an expansion of a possible original scenario where people simply had a political slogan "Jesus lives!" as in his ideas live on even tho you killed him - is also an interesting take of some Jesus Seminar theologians.

Agree is very high the possibility, way more than the Supernatural.

yeah Simon Magus was the Doug Henning to Jesus' Copperfield. :D

@@paulnolan4971 - Wow! You're old enough to remember Doug Henning!? I mention his name and just get blank stares from people. Are you perhaps a magician yourself? BTW, I doubt the "trick" at the wedding in Cana ever happened, because Yeshu (Jesus) is said to have used "six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece." A firkin is about 11 gallons, so we're talking about somewhere between 132 gallons (22 x 6 = 132) and 198 gallons (33 x 6 = 198). That would've been more than enough to fill a mikveh (ritual immersion bath), per the established halakah (religio-legal ruling) of the Jewish Sages, which requires a minimum of 40 seah for a mikveh to be acceptable (i.e., approximately 120 gallons), though nowadays one should endeavor to keep the mikveh filled with approximately 243.5 gallons. See Rebbe Schneerson's letter on the chabad.org website entitled, "Guidelines for the construction of a mikveh."

Check out Hiro of Alexandria. Contemporary to the gospels and famous for his special jug.

That's not true because these things never happened it's all man made stories.

There is a particular species of snake that lives in egypt and the middle east, which, when grabbed from its sides seizes up and can have the appearance of a rod, this is likely what the magicians were performing if the event was in any way real.

There are also icons of Jesus using various mudras

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You are absolutely wrong, that's not magic, it is the power of mind. All these bible stories are man made that never happened nor the persons mentioned in it ever existed.

@@anthonyjohn9000 "its not magic, its the power of mind..." precisely...and the power of the mind, when utilized for the purposes of magic, RESULTS in the systems of governance that i just described above... for example, the spell that billions are under, called "religion", at this very moment is based upon misdirection and words which were LITERALLY CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR TO BE USED FOR THAT VERY PURPOSE; to place their target population in a state of cognitive dissonance which is called MENTAL MAGIC...and mental magic was designed to fool the MIND, just as physical magic was designed to fool the EYES... but notice how IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER IF ANY OF THOSE BIBLICAL CHARACTERS EXISTED OR NOT IN REALITY, bc they were just the PROPS for that particular magic trick...bc we all know that the ONLY thing that matters in any mental magic trick is the RESULT of that magic trick...thus, while u are being misdirected into arguing whether those literary or SCRIPTED ppl ever existed the RESULTS show with crystal clarity that billions of ppl have literally based their entire lives upon that SCRIPT...talk about an effective magic trick...WHY did u think it was that the bible said so eloquently that of all ppl it was specifically the MAGI who announced the baby Jesus...and u know WHY they wrote that book, called the bible? bc they wanted to make it a binding magic spell, which is WHY they literally SPELL THE WORDS...did u think they called books with script "spelling" for no reason...they also utilize spelling of words which have multiple meanings simultaneously, again for the purpose of misdirection and confusion to fool their target society...and in the case of bible script, these multiple meanings are called parables, symbolism, literalism, mythology...which again has the EFFECT of creating confusion and chaos...and btw another term for a "binding spell" is called "the law", which simply means it was a rule created out of thin air which once written down and SPELLED OUT results in a binding effect of those words...words which they themselves created thru small mouth noises out of thin air, which they ascribed letters to, which made those former meaningless mouth noises eventually control ur entire life...and THATS a teeny tiny example of how they combine mind with magic spelling for social engineering purposes... i hope that helped... ur friend, abracadabra

Sorcery 101=make them think that you never really did exist. Use it for your own benefits. It's actually abracadaver. They just wrote it as abracadabra to throw people off of their trail.

I feel like I've seen the two of them talking together somewhere. I could just be imagining things though because I can't recall where.

@@rainbowkrampus Those spider web panty hose she wears are man slayers. Talk about magic.

I always thought it was an allegory for deeper mystical principles. Undoubtably Jesus knew of magic with a k but I know of no magical rituals that give you the ability to instantaneously turn water to wine.

Just means laborer or someone who works with their hands.

Jesus certainly has many faces throughout history. Certainly resonates with people of many cultures. Wonder what he thinks of all descriptions of him by billions of people. Amazing for someone not known to have ever written anything.

Jesus was a failed end times preacher who was following a common motif of dying and rising gods, virgin births and sexless conceptions that *pre-date* Christianity. "When we say…Jesus Christ…was produced without sexual union, and was crucified and died, and rose again, and ascended to heaven, ***we propound nothing new or different*** *from what you believe regarding those whom you call Sons of God. [In fact]…if anybody objects that [Jesus] was crucified, this is in* ***common*** *with the sons of Zeus (as you call them) who suffered, as previously listed [he listed Dionysus, Hercules, and Asclepius].* Since their fatal sufferings are all narrated as not similar but different, so his unique passion should not seem to be any worse." *Note how Justin (Martyr) is less of a fool than modern Christian apologists. He admits that differences don’t matter.* Since each and every one of the suffering and dying gods are slain by different means, one cannot argue the mytheme requires exactly the same means of death. “But Osiris can’t have inspired the Jesus myth because Osiris wasn’t nailed to a cross” is a stupid argument. The mytheme is simply death. Being killed. Suffering and dying. The exact mode of death can vary freely. It makes no difference to the existence and influence of the mytheme. It’s simply the particular instantiation of a generic abstraction. *And Justin’s argument (that Satan invented these fake religions to confuse people) entails Justin agreed the mytheme existed: indeed, it was demonically promulgated, multiple times. Intentionally.* *Likewise, Justin notices the mytheme is not virgin birth, but sexless conception. Of which many examples had already been popularized in pagan mythology (there just happens to also have been examples of actual virgin born gods as well). And by his argument (that the Devil was deliberately emulating the Jesus mytheme, in advance), Justin clearly accepted the same principle for “rising again” after death:* the particular exact metaphysics of the resurrection could, like the exact method of death or conception, vary freely. The mytheme consists solely of the abstraction: returning to life. Somehow. Some way. We will say bodily, at the very least. But what sort of body (the same one, a new one, a mortal one, an immortal one), didn’t matter. *If it had, Justin would have made the argument that “those gods” weren’t really resurrected. But that argument, never occurs to him. Nor did it to any other apologist of the first three centuries.* *Ancient Christians well knew there was nothing new about their dying-and-rising god. Not in respect to the mytheme.* Their claims were solely that his particular instantiation of it was better, and the only one that actually happened. *They didn’t make up the stupid modern arguments that dying-and-rising god myths didn’t exist or weren’t part of a common mytheme everyone knew about. For example, in the same century, Tertullian, in Prescription against Heretics 40, makes exactly the same argument as Justin. Funny that. They had better access to the evidence than we do. They knew what was really and widely the case. We should listen to them.* Google *"Dying-and-Rising Gods: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"* ------------------------------------------------------------------ In addition, look up the below articles. *"Ehrman Errs: Yes, Bart, There Were Dying & Rising Gods - atheologica"* Watch *"Dying & Rising Gods: A Response to William Lane Craig"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica. *"The First Easters: Death and Resurrection Before Christ | atheologica"* *"The Christs Before Christ: Tammuz-Adonis | atheologica"* Watch *"Asclepius: The Pre-Christian Healer & Savior"* by Derreck Bennett at Atheologica *"Virgin Birth: It's Pagan, Guys. Get Over It. • Richard Carrier"* *"5 Pagan Parallels to Jesus That Actually Aren’t Bullshit - Atheomedy"* *"Christian Apologetics: The Art of Deceit - Atheomedy"* *"Isaiah 53 & the Suffering Servant | atheologica"* *"Defending the Resurrection: It’s Easy if You Lie! - Atheomedy"* *"Rising Gods, Pagan Parallels, and Cultural Context: A Response to M. David Litwa | atheologica"* *"An Evidence Attested Resurrection? - chromosome two"* *"The Empty Tomb: A Rhetorical Dead End - atheologica"* *"Theological Dodgeball: On the Posturing of Faith over Reason | atheologica"* *"Majority of Scholars agree: The Gospels were not written by Eyewitnesses - Escaping Christian Fundamentalism"* A good site written by an actual Biblical scholar. *"Contradictions in the Bible | Identified verse by verse and explained using the most up-to-date scholarly information about the Bible, its texts, and the men who wrote them -- by Dr. Steven DiMattei"* *"How do we know that the biblical writers were* ***not*** *writing history? -- by Dr Steven DiMattei"* Also: *"How Did The Gospel Writers Know? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Yes, the Four Gospels Were Originally Anonymous: Part 1 - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Are Stories in the Bible Influenced by Popular Greco-Roman Literature? - The Doston Jones Blog"* *"Gospels Not Written By Matthew, Mark, Luke or John - The Church Of Truth"*

Are there any master teachers of majic that you know of today? Most religions have always had enlightened spiritual masters, or teachers. Buddha, confuscious, moses, supposedly Jesus.

@@donalddotson-cw5ll Buddha is a liar, Moses is an evil prophet, and Jesus was probably a name made up by the church. There was no J letter at that age

The video is following the academic conclusion about speaking in tongues as described in the NT. Speaking in tongues (glossolalia) IS speaking gibberish. This is the depiction given in 1 Corinthians. It is described as a gift of the spirit. It is different from the speaking in DIFFERENT tongues (heterais glossais) mentioned in Acts 2:4, which is a direct miracle from God. Paul specifically points out that glossolalia is a separate gift from miracles.

Lacuna?

Interesting

No he was creator of the universe

God created a mature universe six thousand years ago

@@scottgrey2877 Correct 👍

You're a 🧌, many people even children 🙏 in his name and nothing ever happened.

@@Non-religiou People cant deny Jesus is god, you have to deny the whole Old Testament. Succes buddy

@@jeroenky6038 Actually it's u who have to deny the whole Bible cause it's full of inaccuracies

@@Non-religiou cheap talk

@@jeroenky6038 Sure troller, it's u who won't accept the truth.

You described religious trolls such as yourself to a tee, Christine. Well done!

Oblecto Principium!🪄. ("sources please")

@@thomzwiefler6305 ... I am an initiate, and an ex member of a very well known international occult/esoteric fraternity. I do not need to provide any proof or any evidence of my claims, to any non initiate.

What happened in khem that made them unable to continue with initiating the selected students? Was it the khemetic konobi temple priesthood initiation practice, and teachings?

@@donalddotson-cw5ll ... People from all over the Ancient world, travelled to Ancient Khem, to become initiates. ... As for those who became the Priests and Priestesses and most importantly Pharoes, well, just like the Egyptian lay people, they weren't just one individual ethnicity/race.

@@scorpiorob7986 my question is what happened in khem that caused the initiations to have to stop? Making Jesus the last initiated person.