This whole Joe DMT thing is so funny.... DMT is the shit tho, once you explore this part of yourself and your mind is developed enough (meaning you're not a morron meaning you had a meaningful trip) you gonna turn full Joe Rogan regarding DMT topic
@@gmanGman12007 making generalizations and statements such as “ you must be a moron if you didnt develop life changing realizations during your trip” merely shows your ignorance and foolishness
@@jedrooney4302 there is a difference between a meaningful trip even on small doses and "ohhh dude that was awesome dude acid is the shit! I've seen colors and shit was awesome" kind of trip by some
ferise1 Since the doctors dont actually exist, they dont have to follow the laws of physics. Therefore the doctors can just go through the nailed up windows. Hence, “Its not working.”
My uncle had schizophrenia. While he was staying with my auntie, she came home one day to find her living room wall torn out. He decided she needed a fireplace. Another day, there was a dead bird in her kitchen which he insisted he was bringing back to life. The guy was wild. So loving and giving and creative. My poor auntie though. She really just never knew what she was walking in to.
Yeah I have a close friend with schizophrenia and he used to text me some crazy shit... I could always tell when he was off his meds or not on the right ones because he'd say weird things about our friends and we'd have to call his parents and be like yo he's having hallucinations and needs to go to the hospital. Sometimes we had to laugh or else we'd fall apart. It's really a ridiculously difficult disease.
My older brother has been diagnosed with bi polar schizophrenia since he was 5 (he’s 27 years old today) and let me tell you its a trip... I love him to death but just know life for people with this condition can be a living helllll. I love you bro
From someone who Is Bipolar I know this hell your brother deals with. But there is something that changed my life that I had to share with you. There is a company in Canada called TrueHope they created a special vitamin & mineral therapy for people with this disorder as well for schizophrenia an depression called Empower Plus. I used to be on many meds but this therapy got me off all that and i feel waaaaay better..that was over 15 years ago. My doctor was against it but when he saw how much it helped me he wrote in my chart i had a miraculous change. This therapy changed my life, I no longer just barely get through the day. I just had to tell you about this. I wish you and your bro the best.
Living In Christ get the fuck out of here with your unscientific corporate voodoo bullshit that ropes unsuspecting people in and not only ruins their bank accounts but also health. Go to a board certified mental health professional and understand that medication can sometimes save your life.
@@zak-a-roo264 You're an idiot. He was replying to the person with the username "living in christ". Not saying "living in christ is key". Shit for brains.
I've had my brother in cuffs headed to a hospital for evaluation or in the car with me taking hom to Vanderbilt myself probably 25-50 times. I know this well. I put my life on hold for him but it's fucking worth it. Would take a bullet for him if need be. You and I have a similar situation that not many people live. Nobody understands mental illness until they truly live it. His experiences alone also led me to look at myself. Went to the doc last year once he got dialed in and was diagnosed with bipolar 2 last year.
@@DirtBikes_MathGarden LMAO I can already picture Joe on the commentary booth going like "AND THERES ANDERSON SILVA, WITH THE KOTOAMATSUKAMI! THATS IT GUYS, ITS OVER!!!!" 🤣
@@DirtBikes_MathGarden LMAO I can already picture Joe on the commentary booth going like "AND THERES ANDERSON SILVA, WITH THE KOTOAMATSUKAMI! THATS IT GUYS, ITS OVER!!!!" 🤣
I found this really interesting. My brother bless his heart is schizophrenic and one night when I was trying to talk to him on the phone about the soldiers performing military maneuvers outside his apartment… I spent like four hours on the phone with him trying to talk him down and then when I got off the phone with him I went outside to clear my head and the stars were moving around in the sky. It was as if his condition was contagious to me. It was really strange. This explains that I think
The stars are moving? Like we have mathematics to prove this And I have pointed at a group of four stars actually wiggling - to other people and like oh yeah hey that's a thing up there Not some idea, some random thing I saw when camping And the same person said that the stars were twinkling near my house Atmosphere, clouds No it doesn't.
There was a young guy in my town who was on the cusp of turning pro in skateboarding, but he also was heavily into selling acid. After he got on the radar of the cops and DEA, they went in to bust him. So instead of getting caught with the contraband, he ate a whole sheet of acid and it immediately fried his brain and put him on a permatrip. They never found the drugs, so he was let loose. He would walk around town with a backpack with half of a skateboard in it just talking and ranting about everything. I don't know what became of him, but it was a sad tale. It got me out of doing psychedelics ever again.
So you have simply spread a myth that is not even possible the proof is in every town people all day this same story exactly word for word. Proof also is that lsd CANNOT cause a permanent trip
This is a an urban myth and if it isn’t you’ve made an outright lie about it. Let me guess did your parents or older family tell you this cause every family around here I know has these near identical stories which if you were knowledgeable or an experienced drug user you would easily be able to tell it’s totally fake
@@justineadebisi8225 Yeah just like the "Johnny was walking with a sheet of acid in his pocket and it rained and washed into his skin. Ever since he's believed he's a glass of orange juice" Some people who have a tendency toward psychosis can experience a first break from using psychedelics though, so I'm sure there is some truth behind these many different rumors. Just look at herbert mullin. His LSD and cannabis use started him on a journey of paranoid psychosis that lead to him "sacrificing" 13 people to stop earthquakes
Not that homelessness causes schizophrenia, more like people with bad schizophrenia cant get jobs and without a family supporting them they become homeless
It's something crazy like over 50%. So sad. Without medication compliance which is hard to encourage since most are diagnosed with the paranoid sub type they aren't going to want to take something that they think is going to cause then harm or whatever reason. Wish I could help all of them. I talk to many and hear them out some have perspectives on the world that are profound. Many with profound intelligence in their own way.
Bro... he always comes up with some crazy shit like that, or he's either read an article, or seen a documentary on whatever the guest is talking about. Lol
@@gatordontplaynoshit3332 yea cause its his podcast and I'm pretty sure he has an idea of what the guest are gonna talk about... why tf would he not do a lil research?
My birth mother was schizophrenic but I was raised by my aunt and uncle. I studied psychiatry and psychology as soon as I could read. The research at the time suggested that not being exposed to her schizophrenic state exponentially lowered my chances of developing the same state.
I had a paranoid schizophrenic aunt that asked me to get her high once I said no I didn't have any so I scraped my bowls and got some resin I smoked it with her then she kicked me out for smoking in the house true story
Smith probably, yeah, average like $10 a gram unless your getting some high grade. Which goes for anything, you get high steak you gotta pay the money. Should be relatively obvious. Was that ok?
What Joe is talking about is called “folio a deux” or shared insanity. If I remember correctly, a book I read quite a few years ago said that the delusions of a psychotic person can be taken on by a person who does not have psychosis if the two people are left together in isolation for long periods of time (e.g. they are in jail together). The person who does not have psychosis begins to lose his sense of reality when he gets cut off from outside sources of information or feedback from people who do or share in the delusion.
To explain the cigarette thing: in Med class we learned Schizophrenia and smoking are highly correlated. This is probably because smoking causes Schiz but rather it is thought people with Schiz have low/dysfunctional acetylcholine ( a neurotransmitter in the brain). Nicotine in cigarettes is the exogenous version of acetylcholine and binds to its receptor. So it is thought that smoking in schizophrenia is a form of unconscious self-medication to counteract dysfunctional acetylcholine neurotransmitter functioning.
Very interesting that acetylcholine plays part in schizophrenia since deliriants that cause anticholinergic syndrome by cutting off acetylcholine to the cholinergic receptors in the brain cause frighteningly similar psychotic delirium states with visual and auditory hallucinations indistinguishable from reality (much like in schizophrenia)
My uncle is also paranoid schizophrenic and he smokes the exact same way and would smoke an entire carton if you let him. He was also mentally about 13 or so and I think that made it easier for us to get him to always take his meds. I miss him so much.
I took an absolutely massive dose of LSD at 20. I meant to take 3 hits , but the guy with it had it in a breath mint dropper, and he accidentally squirted a massive stream in my mouth. Who knows how much? 30 hits? More ? Less? I was tripping harder at 20 mins than at a peak of a 2 hit trip. I completely died, merged with all of existence, I was in a state of psychosis for several years afterward, and ill still never completely grasp reality, any little thing can fling me back into the void. My understanding of the nature of my exsistence is overwhelming, ignorance is bliss. Becareful , youll find what youre looking for, but you might not like it. Its beautiful, but so lonely.
My older bro suffers from this and he’s locked up, this illness is no joke people it’s very very heartbreaking to see a family member deal with it, their perception of reality is so different from ours
I worked in a county hospital in the 90’s as a Medical Assistant in the Geriatric Pshych ward and having a conversation with a schizophrenic person was an amazing experience.
A pack is 20 cigs, he was smoking a carton in 3 days. A carton is 10 packs. So about 3.3 packs a day. That would be about 70 cigs a day. 70x7= 490 cigs a week. Lets round that up to 500 for easier math. 500x4= 2,000 cigs a month, or 24,000 cigs a year. 24,000 cigs a yearx10 years= 240,000 cigs in a ten year period. 3 packs a day is pretty common for old school heavy smokers. I've known some people who even smoked 4 packs a day. Long story short, Your number is way off lol.
The term Joe was looking for is "folie a deux." It's a French term that means "madness shared by two." It's used to explain the contagious nature mental illness can have on people exposes to it
Correct but to be a little more precise, "Folie a Deux" i.e. madness of two, is specific to delusional disorder and doesn't fall under schizophrenia. Also the "contagiousness" that people usually talk about is specific to people who share a close relationship with the affected person. Not anyone who gets exposed. Good job!
My grandfather is schizophrenic and he used to smoke a lot. He would short out his cigarettes at the same point every time and stack them really nicely in the big ceramic ashtrays. For decades. Then one day about 5 years ago he decided he didn’t want to smoke anymore and he quit. He’s done some interesting things also.
Damn near all skitzophrenics smoke cigarettes it’s scientifically proven that it helps them in some way I can’t recall how exactly but literally every skitzo friend or family member as well as my skitzo ass smokes like a chimney
I care for my 47 year old brother. He is manic, paranoid schizophrenic. Every day is busy. I don't allow meds to lower the manic. The flip side of that is he is a zombie. He does take meds. That has to be adjusted often. Other than that. He is very healthy. Jogs 3 miles a day, works out, everyday. It can be so hard sometimes! But we push through and keep moving.
It's both funny and touching...Man, serious mental diseases are such a tough, tough affliction, both for the one suffering through them and their families/friends.
When Joe talks about thinking a car would come crashing down. I get thoughts like that, but they're always like "How to react to this event" kinda shit to keep me on my toes. It's a symptom of my anxiety that keeps me aware of potential what if scenarios. I find myself daydreaming about shit that may never happen, just to know how to react. It's like a survival instinct.
Exactly the same here bro, I've done it all my teenage life and early adulthood. It's just a symptom of general anxiety. I'll be riding a bus and outta nowhere I'd think "what should I do if this bus crashes?" it wouldn't make me nervous, just somewhat curious at this point. I find it remarkably interesting the things my subconscious just assumes.
Every time I walk home from the train station at night up the hill to my house after a shift at work I have to walk through a patch of land we call the "crags" and it's usually always pitch dark. My head's just conjuring up all sorts of scenarios of robbings and assaults... it's kinda like a preventative measure like you said to keep you on your toes. I would justify it entirely as a subconscious survival defence passed down through genetic instincts.
I know exactly what ur talking about. But I can’t describing stemming from anxiety. My perspective is whatever I need to do in life, I wanna have envisioned how that path would go down and to try to be prepared for signs so I don’t miss chances. But even then, I still never worry about missing the chances regardless.in a way, I feel like it lets me live in the moment and pick up details I might recall I other wise might have missed or just not experienced.
same during teenage years but ive become too mellow and easy going in my 20s to the point that nothing bothers me and if it happens it happens. on occasion i do test my improv skills tho to keep em sharp.
@@hatimelouaqour610 thats interesting mate as your insights and james's are like mine. Im curious though do you get like dreams in the past you recall just before or as certain events happen? like some sort of anxiety response maybe? as i grow up i wanna try understand better why my mind acts this way, maybe try and learn to better harness it as i feel the anxiety i feel is an advantage more then disadvantage.
That's so nuts.. My father was a paranoid schizophrenic and everything that Ryan guy said I can relate to.. My dad LOVED smoking fuckin cigarettes, like just lived to smoke, like yeah a carton over 2 days type loved it.. He also had constantly paranoid thoughts even when he was medicated properly, used to say that someone knocked on his walls when he was trying to sleep, that he was going to be kidnapped, someone was looking for revenge over something he read about 20 years ago.. just sad, crazy stuff.. when I was young he called me at my mother's house and had gotten to a city 600kms away from his town and he couldn't find his shirt.. He didn't explain why he was there just kept asking me for his shirt.. I was about 10 yrs old.. It got worse for him over the last few years and he hung himself in his laundry last March.. I lived across the street from him, and I still couldn't help him in the end.. It's a pretty fucked up disease I can tell you that..
@@TheMsr47gaming hey man, thanks for that, really appreciate it.. I'm doing ok, still hits me every now and again.. Suppose that's normal though considering.. I empathise alot with what this man had to say. It is such a full on disorder and completely indescribable for anyone who hasn't had to experience it.. But like he also described, some funny as fuck stuff happens sometimes as well.. life is crazy that way.. peace bro
@@TheMsr47gaming sorry to hear the news mate, much love to you.. Indeed we are living in interesting times, full of both madness and, hell, sometimes even beauty.. Peace to you to man, and my sympathies as well
LSD practically cured my depression. I was bipolar and I took LSD as a teenager a couple times. Never major doses, but I took them alone and just thought about life. Changed me forever.
@@johnnyparsnips7641 would this be a reason, for suddenly developing anti-social behavior? I'm 20 (dropped @ 19), and I feel like can't connect with people my own age anymore.
*I went to high school with a guy that sold acid and was eating it all the time. My little brother was friends with his brother and about 5 years later he was GONE. Totally lost his mind from doing too much acid. It's a sad thing.*
The same thing happened to my cousin, he took some acid and it brought on his schizophrenia. I’ve read about that since that if you have the possibility of having schizophrenia and you take acid, I think it can even be one time, it can bring it out. At first he didn’t get medicated and it was pretty bad, talking to Lucifer and he knocked around his mom (my aunt), accused my brother (his cousin) of sleeping with his sister (who was also obviously his cousin) and then sucker punched my brother… sometimes he’d stop mid step and could stab there motionless for a really long time, one foot in the air… he finally got medicated and is very functional and fun to be around.
Coke and meth do it as well. Used to do a ball a day because I was selling it so it was basically free. Got a half ounce, didn’t sell any within an hour, so I snorted it all within8 hours and have never been the same since. If I’m sober or drinking, it isn’t issue, but If I smoke good weed or do too much blow it’s goes full gear.
Thank you so much for this information actually , my mom is a violent schizophrenic, I was considering doing acid , later in life , in years to come , I’ve never done it before ( just bc of the way it can make ur life make sense in some way ) . And now I’m glad I’m reading this so i know not to , especially in my case.
One of my grandpas best friends was the same way. Dude was normal, had his own carpentry business, has a beautiful family that he took good care of. But all the acid and lsd eventually caught up and he went out and never came back. He’s harmless, it’s just sad to see a good man loose his mind like that. Dudes a hoot to have around tho and the whole town watches out for him.
Luckily 99% of people who do psychedelics never develop any kind of mental illness. The incidents of schizophrenia within psychedelic users is the same as cannabis users and the general public, about 1%.
My brother was found dead last week. Paranoid schizophrenic. He had been missing for fifteen years...he's gng to be cremated. I want to remember his face and I cant...i love you shane. I wish you could hear me.
Really? I’ve always theorized that it’s where all of my creativity comes from. Auditory schizo here, I’m almost a Jedi with controlling the voices/sounds/music/screaming without medication, but one never “fully” control it. Sometimes one or multiple voices scream questions at me to which I get startled loudly asking my wife or kids “wtf r u yelling at me for??” Or waking up screaming and running straight into a wall or dresser. But that’s mostly as bad as it gets, when I was younger an undiagnosed it was Hell…people loved being around me, which I didn’t really understand cuz I didn’t want to be around me lol but until I got help for it I self medicated for about a decade with alcohol sex and heroin/opiates and or cocaine. Stupid. Now I just let em scream and and carry on, and I just ignore the absoluteFUCKout of them. But I make art, clothing, music, jewelry, skateboard, surf, check a bit out on Instagram @xerolestrange
@@josiahjones3705 Really? I’ve always theorized that it’s where all of my creativity comes from. Auditory schizo here, I’m almost a Jedi with controlling the voices/sounds/music/screaming without medication, but one never “fully” control it. Sometimes one or multiple voices scream questions at me to which I get startled loudly asking my wife or kids “wtf r u yelling at me for??” Or waking up screaming and running straight into a wall or dresser. But that’s mostly as bad as it gets, when I was younger an undiagnosed it was Hell…people loved being around me, which I didn’t really understand cuz I didn’t want to be around me lol but until I got help for it I self medicated for about a decade with alcohol sex and heroin/opiates and or cocaine. Stupid. Now I just let em scream and and carry on, and I just ignore the absoluteFUCKout of them. But I make art, clothing, music, jewelry, skateboard, surf, check a bit out on Instagram @xerolestrange
I can relate to this situation a lot . I had the occasional funny moments , when dealing with a friend's illness , but the waste of talent , which accompanied that illness , makes me quite sad . Around 20 years ago now I attended a drama school . We had a crazy bunch of characters , some who appeared normal turned out too be nuts , some people who seemed crazy , turned out too be quite wise underneath a layer of outward madness . One guy was wanted in Scotland for beating his ex up , although I never really got to the bottom of that particular story , he was a charming person , who upon closer inspection , had narsassistic traits . But in relation to your cousin , I do remember a lovely man called Warren in my year . He was funny , quirky and a little off the wall . He had done a lot of drugs in his life before attending this degree course , so he was a bit of an unknown quantity when it came to concentration on a play . Anyway , as the course progressed through it's first year into the second year , he started to act up . He would do press ups and sit ups in class , while someone else was up doing a scene . He would talk to himself at times , like we all do , only it wasn't an inner voice , it was voiced out loud . Pretty soon he became a liability , so it was obvious he would be removed from the school . Only , despite the situation of his bizarre behaviour being an issue , he kept turning up for classes . Only every day he turned up he looked worse and worse . Finally one day , he never showed up . It turned out he was wise to the hospital trying to section him , so he wasn't going back to his council flat , but sleeping by the station . Eventually the butterfly nets managed to capture him , in order that he be given a thorough assessment , so treatment could allow his mind to stabilize . Like your cousin , warren had such potential , yet the drug use either was the trigger for mental illness , which might never have never shown itself , or mental illness was inevitable. Sadly I never saw hm again . I've heard that he died , but have never been able to confirm it . He was a lovely guy , who's life was somehow compromised in some ways by drug use . So while drug use may appear a bit if fun , it's a hell of a lottery when it comes to the affect on your well being .
Drug use can not and does not make a person schizophrenic. You can get heroin dependency from heroin or stimulant psychosis from overdosing on stimulants, but you can't get OCD from weed or BPD from mushrooms.
He's right mental illness isn't funny. BUT people also don't realize the healing power of comedy. When you can find the humor in something it makes it so much easier to cope with. The last time I had a break was just a few months ago, I was about to quit my job buy an acre of land in the woods. I was going to build a log cabin and my wife and I were going to retire quietly in the mountains. Keep in mind, I grew up in the city so have zero survival skills. I've never built anything in my life, AND this was in the middle of a Minnesota winter. My wife picked me up from work and brought me to the ER to be seen. They sent me home and I took some time off work. Seriously you can laugh it's funny 🤣
I developed acute schizophrenia when I was around 20 and this shit made me laugh so gosh damn hard. We’re not looking to hurt anybody we’re just a little tortured 🤪😂
I spent an entire summer doing acid . I had a few diagnoses already , I had Tourette’s , was extremely anti social , depressed and had some ptsd from my childhood. People would try to get to know me and I’d literally walk away because I was emberassed of my motor ticks and was not a good speaker So I bought several sheets of acid and attempted something I would not recommend but it just happened to work in my case. I just remember waking up under a bridge in late August . Everything looked different and nice , I was still tripping a little and a person came along walking his dog and said hi and all of a sudden I’m having a half hour conversation with this guy, not a weird conversation where he was trying to leave , it was actually kind of the opposite because I felt so different and I wanted to continue onward but he kept talking but I was articulating myself extremely well. So I walk into the town and I apply for and get a job , I was interviewed on the spot, again articulating myself like never before. I’ve seen hallucinogenics work wonders and horrors . But long story short I caught a bus to the next town over where I was staying and it wasn’t until I had gotten to my room that I hadn’t had a single vocal or motor tick since I woke up . And I haven’t since
similar diagnosis here tourette trauma from childhood anxiety depression my thing aint acid tho its hash only thing that makes my brain function like a "normal person"
ricky lafleur hash makes me paranoid . But to each their own. I haven’t tripped in years it became a casual thing after that year , not something I need anymore to remain this way
Sometimes when somethings going really wrong me or my friend will go “how’s that working” and the other will go “it’s not working” in reference to this clip lmao so damn funny
I have a little brother who is schizophrenic tendencies ( isn't legally schizo till 25) with aggressive bipolar tendencies. Shits no joke. I've had butcher knifes pulled on me. Attacked two weeks a horrible motorcycle accident. Two days before my surgery. It's both scary and incredibly hard to deal with brother.
I was a counselor in a half way house with schizophrenics. Schizophrenia comes usually during puberty. It is said to be triggered by stressful event and hallucinogens can also trigger it an or course make symptoms worse. I was in my early 20s when I started working with them. I got to say they said the funniest things. I don't know how the day care handles it now but they were all totally addicted to cigarettes. and coffee.
I had a friend who unfortunately passed by has paranoid schizophrenia that stemmed from heavy drug use. But before he took his own life he'd call me me to hangout. I'd be watching TV with him and he'd start saying the TV is trying to tell him to take down the government and stuff. He tell me they implanted a listening device in my brain. It was wild stuff
Are you upset that he has a podcast and a platform to talk about his life; which would include friends; and you dont? You don't have to watch or listen.
