Ghostlore haha the hypocrisy is incredible man. Joey Diaz has dosed so so many people and a lot of them have had horrendous times yet people giggle and love joey for it. Ari does it once and he gets all this hate.
Ari fucked up. But it doesnt mean he shouldnt be forgiven. They're really close friends. As someone who has a group of friends who have a couple of us who fuck with lesser drugs and some who just smoke weed and drink and this is 100% something we would've done to eachother.
@@l3wdlemon708 i've done it, i've had it done to me. i highly regret it now (morally; was fucking awesome in reality), but shit happens when you're 14-18 man. you get older, you get more mature. usually. thats where with ari it's crazy, it wasn't to give him an awesome time, it was out of revenge, which is actually disgusting.
@@Reblwitoutacause This is from 4 years ago. They all did "sober October" to kind of help Bert chill on his drinking since he was drinking way too much. Ari being a sociopath got mad at him for not keeping to it too much and was upset at having to stop drinking. So to get back at Bert, he gave him MDMA to try and get him to quit because he took a drug. Bert didn't really stick to the sober October really well. 4 years later, today he's doing much better with drinking I believe. That's the basic story to my knowledge.
Meanwhile, since then Tom and Bert have sold out, whilst Ari is the only one in the Rogan sphere that I'd wanna go to the bar with but I'd have my hand over my drink the entire time of course.
@@eddiemoran8044 His shift in personality lined up with Joe telling him to get on TRT and start lifting weights, I think it makes you take yourself too seriously.
He's one of those guys that thinks doing drugs is cool. Anyone over the age of 16 that thinks that is extremely childish, and I do a TON of drugs. And not the cool ones (dope)
@@Hobopower84 bro I feel like that was pretty obvious from the get go. That's like saying "and then we found out 'the machine' story is 'exaggerated.'" good rule of thumb: if there are 4 comedians sitting in a room telling a story that sounds insane, it's a bit.
@@Hobopower84 well Bert’s family is really sticking to the act because his entirely family hates Ari. This isn’t a bit lol. If it was they wouldn’t be laughing
Shaffir seems like he's uncomfortable not because he did it, but because his friends don't approve of his doing it. He might legitimately be a sociopath.
@@yorknorthyorkeastyorketobi741 But like you gotta understand the differences between the two and how someone with a heart condition on an edible isn't gonna die, worst case a mild panic attack while someone dosing on Molly can literally keel over because of the drug itself
He has also admitted to starting to choke women with no warning during sex, no pre-talk to check if she's into that stuff or anything about it, so he does seem to have some issues with other peoples boundaries, so genuinely wouldn't surprise me if he had dosed someone before. I mean, I am also into choking and being rough, but there does need to be some pre-talk about it, if you spring that shit on a girl spontaneously it could leave you with a sexual assault charge.
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Ari is such an addict. His mannerisms in the last 2-3 mins actually shocked me. Couldn’t wrap my head around the dosing justification and felt like there was a deeper line than him being a sociopath
Sociopaths for you. You'd think when he was there he would have thought geez his kids are here, should I rethink this ? Nope. Doesn't care about anyone except himself.
I love comedy but spiking a drink, smoked substances, etc is *not funny*. It can be highly dangerous. Aside from that, it's a form of coercion and abuse. Not funny. Even if it's one guy drugging another guy. Not funny at all.
@@sc220 The reason it is less funny than it could be....is that Burnt isn't mad as much as he is hurt and confused. And it caused trouble with the wife. And because he knows what we all know.....he is the runt of the group and gets picked on relentlessly, with Tom being his only real friend. "But other than that, the play was OK" -. Mrs. Lincoln
@@thomasblack2393 Why is it funny? He was home with his family, and he had a flight that same night, on top of all his recent medical issues. What's funny about that? Seriously. If it was in a movie or something, and happened to a fictional character, I could absolutely see the humor in that, because no real lives are in jeopardy. That's not what this is. This was a real guy, with a real family, with real medical issues, and he was given a very powerful drug against his will. Again, what's funny about that?
@@thomasblack2393 Nah, you're good. Keep doing you. The world is already filled with sociopaths who lack empathy and human decency - what's one more? Have a good day
You can tell Tom and Bert legit care about each other by how pissed Tom looked about it and Bert actually calling that Tom was gonna be mad it’s kinda wholesome
The way Ari talks about this is terrifying. Jesus, I'd walk out honestly. It isn't a joke dude, you spiked his drink. If Bert said "I'll try it" and Ari gave it to him and Bert didn't like it, then I can see where the jokes would come from. But spiking the dudes drink, in his house, in front of his kids, when he has to leave and go to a different state? What a psychopath
Not to mention this is the same time his doctor told him he needs to get healthy. And Molly is notoriously awful for your liver and dehydrated the fuck out of you. The two specific things that he was struggling with
@@markellhawthorne2921THIS. The main defense is oh “mollys not that bad he turned put fine” if you dose someone with ANY fucking drug even ibuprofen that shits deadass crossing a boundary and wrong. I dont care even if the experience was good. No good human would even think of drugging someone without consent makes you wonder what else hes okay with not getting consent for.
You dumbasses have never done molly 😂. Dude every single tome you do mdma it’s fucking awesome, extremely low chance to freak out because there is no headspace. Get familiar with drugs before you diagnose a dude over the internet. Ari knows what Molly’s about and how it works, chill tf out you ignorant fucks
This physically gave me anxiety to watch. And made me so mad. I have been in Bert's position. A former "friend" drugged me when we were on a birthday trip to Miami. I made it clear at the start of the night that I didn't want to do drugs, and later in the evening I discovered he had poured a full bag of molly into a soda water pitcher that I was drinking. I drank about 3/4 of that pitcher. I was very lucky that it was not very strong molly because it could have been very dangerous considering how much I drank. It was the scariest moment of my life when I found out what was in the pitcher. When I confronted him the next day, he did the same as Ari, laughed it off and acted like I was over-reacting and said I knew it was in there (please, as if I would knowingly take 3/4 of a bag of molly). It has given me anxiety for many years around it happening again. I have major trust issues and I have had to work really hard to confront those fears. He is clearly a narcisist or sociopath. I ended that "friendship" and never looked back. Bert should do the same.
That is horrible, so sorry that happened to you. So messed up. People who do this have to be sociopathic or just plain dumb. They have no idea what medications a person may be on. Mixed with the drugs it can be absolutely lethal. If no consent is given, that's a straight up crime.
Have you even heard if all the horrible shit Joey has said he's done, and still doesn't think is a big deal? He's a million times worse than Ari slipping a friend some M
its so true, if you are having a bad trip you really just fucking need somebody to keep you grounded and at the time its happening that person means everything to you
Which is weird because Joey has dosed people before, although it's different, the only times I know is giving his cohost Lee a higher percentage edible than he thought.
If ari really understood the severity of his act he would be more sorry. but he thinks it’s not a big deal. If I was bert, seeing how unsorry ari is, I would stop talking to him.
I have seizures now I’ll have to deal with for the rest of my life because I was spiked. It’s not a joke, you never know how someone will react to something at a certain time. Just because he took it before does not mean his body would be able to handle it again. Especially Molly. The way it depletes your serotonin is no joke. One of the most traumatic moments of my life was when I thought I was ODing on Molly. I didn’t feel the same for two years plus after, and trauma and anxiety changes your brain. The fact that he can sit there and admit no guilt, remorse, or understanding that drugging someone without their consent is an absolute NO-NO and inexcusable is scary. I’m all for dark humor and jokes but this isn’t even dark it’s just downright fucked up.
@@cherubchalk we believe it was GHB but it was out of my system so fast they couldn’t test me by the time I made it to the hospital the next town over :(
@@truzle6133 the point is that they want edibles. Yes he gives them a different amount but they are aware they are getting it. Bert did NOT want to be high that night.
Dude is literally admitting to a crime on air and laughing about it. He's lucky that Bert is such a forgiving guy or he could've easily pressed charges on him.
Drugging people is so fucked up. It’s also a felony that he’s just laughing off. This happened to a friend of mine another friend put shrooms on this hamburger at a bbq he tripped out so hard he had to be taken to the hospital. None of us talk to that guy anymore and he doesn’t get why
White knight Let's relax with the long ass 4 page articles. Holy shit, nobody's going to read that. I read half and realized how fuckin long is this useless comment?! But yea weed isn't a bad drug and Ari Shaffir should burn in hell
Getting dosed with anything you're not expecting isn't cool, weed is no exception. Especially when we're talking about people who don't smoke. You don't think they'd have anxiety?
@White knight i read the first part of that where yiu said its like giving them root beer and telling them its not which is a shit example because root beer isnt mind altering. When you have edibles its actually like a drug so thats also wrong. Albeit not as bad as giving someone molly but just because it cant kill you doesn't make it right
Damn everyone in the comments like “Tom is such a good friend”. Are we gonna ignore the honorable actions of the 🐐 Joey diaz. That’s a REAL friend 100%
You’re right. When Joey dosed Berts dad and everyone laughed he really laid the ground work for Ari to take it to the next level, people forget that man
A tinder date I really liked told me about this episode and how it was such an uncomfortable, sad watch, and she was right. Even that halfway point where, bless his heart, Bert's trying to emotionally bargain Ari with reason, "you felt bad. You had to have had remorse, because you've gotta be a friend and a good person, right?" And it's just the things not being said, with their eyes. And how Ari just defiantly brushed it off - not a fuck given.
Ari is so twisted man.... I sadly got into harder drugs by 18 and never once thought of spiking anyone ever, even if it was a friend who did drugs. That idea is so foreign to me. And Ari is a full grown man justifying it like there could be a world where drugging someone is ok. What a sick and twisted man, hope he lost all his friends for that
Ari is the type of person you see in an old folks home on the border of insanity, yet not diagnosed to be in the locked area. When you see the trembling lanky old man pissing in the corner of his room and wonder, "how does humanity get to this point", definitely remember ppl with habits like Ari.
It's absolutely insane to me that this guy was on the biggest podcast in the world defending drugging people without their knowledge and he still has a successful career.
@Gregory DeAngelis Man, understanding makes it so much worse though. I've done way too much Molly, in my raving youth, and I am very familiar with what the drug does and how it feels. If someone dosed me, I'm never violent, but i'd want to kill them. Even if I had fuck all to do for the next 10 hours, just having to be subjected to that ridiculous high when you don't want it and weren't planning on it. Some drugs it might be like "you asshole, but okay at least I'll try to enjoy it", but MDMA... fuuuuck that. The only place it makes any kind of sense to be on that drug is at an all night party with loud music where everybody is thrashed on drugs together. Lots of people to talk to, a good reason to move around pointlessly, and nobody's going to remember or take seriously any of the shit you ramble out of your mouth. Anywhere the fuck else, especially if you had anything else normal to do, it's just awful. "oh hello stranger you're my best friend now ever let me tell you all my secrets and call up my exes and my grandma and ohmygod did you see that cute girl I think i'm in love let's go talk to her and aren't kittens the best and yada yada yada" Can cause insane embarrassment after the fact. You do and say things that are totally out of character. And yeah in a dark hazy bass-y rave with shameless dance floors and surrounded by drunk and high cute women who are also looking to just be stupid with you - yeah it's a great time. That is a place where it is acceptable to walk up to a woman you don't know and gush on about how beautiful she is - and she can easily slip away if she's not into it, she'll recognize that you're just rolling, but more often than not she is into it cause she's at a rave and that's what happens there. And it doesn't matter how fuzzy and lovey dovey you get because that's the thing to do and everybody gets it and most people want it and enjoy it. And i loved it too. In most other circumstances the kind of behavior MDMA evokes in someone is not appropriate at all and can easily be creepy or alarming to folks who don't know you or what you're on. The drug makes it harder for you to pick up on if someone is uncomfortable talking to you, but you can't help but open up with people. And honestly I've heard of people getting dosed with MDMA before, or even people taking it in stupid situations - and it's like "no biggie everybody has fun and feels good on MDMA" ... That is exactly the problem man. That's why its so fucked up. Don't drug people. It's wrong. But if you are going to do it, definitely don't drug people with MDMA. It's not fun, it lasts way too long, if you have done the drug a lot in the past you're probably over it and even sick of it (MDMA is one of few drugs that many people get sick of and never want to do again after having done it a bunch of times) and 9 times out of 10 the victim will be so much worse off because of it. Everyone is out here treating weed, molly and mushroom highs like they're no big thing but all three of those drugs have much more overwhelming highs than lots of the "harder" stuff that people aren't as flippant about. It's unfounded in my opinion. Heroin, low doses of PCP, ketamine, coke, crack - all these drugs fuck up your day (or even couple of days) a hell of a lot less than MDMA. MDMA really isn't that far off from meth when it comes to how big and intense of a high it is.
It's odd Tom gets mad and surprised like this is the first time he heard about it, while also acknowledging Burt called him shortly after and told him about it. I'm calling Bullshit on this whole story. As in, Bullshit in it just coming up.
Been listening a lot of Bert and Tom for a few months. Sure, Bert likes to party, and he looks like he's trying to do a lot to offset that. But a friend spiking him with Molly? I'd be pissed
Ngl bert is playing the victim begging for attention here, he literally used the experience as a bit on stage and killed it yet he’s sitting here acting a bitch trying to get everyone to feel sorry for him. Like seriously move on man.
Ngl bert is playing the victim begging for attention here, he literally used the experience as a bit on stage and killed it yet he’s sitting here acting a bitch trying to get everyone to feel sorry for him. Like seriously move on man.
He says it himself that he doesn't want to do sober October and it's only because of Bert that it started so he dosed him because hes forced into doing sober october. Not sure comprehension is needed when he literally says it?
"I was having panic attacks, on a plane on molly, high blood pressure and cholesterol. I wanted to get hydrated, I was having Tito's and OJ" lmao ok bert
Yep, Ari’s a certifiable piece of shit human. He’s the friend that sticks around and no one likes, he’s just there because you’ve known him for so long.
@Ben R. Wont be any revenge. They are friends, and Bobby pretty much admitted on his Podcast with Ari that he in a way deserved what he got. The podcast they do together talking about it is one of Bobbys funnier podcasts.
Ari basically just admits he would spike everyone’s drinks in that room , I’m surprised Joe rogan didn’t take this more seriously and throw his ass out of the podcast asap. Ari is that person you can trust unattended whatsoever with anything. I have no idea why these guys are friends with him still, he just looks like he is a closet methhead lol that is absolutely wild
@@savannahp6359 He also picked on Bobby Lee thinking he was responsible for his ex-girlfriend cheating on him because he didn't have the balls to confront her or the Mad TV guy she was cheating on him with.
People in the entertainment business look at drugs and alcohol as performance-enhancing drugs. No shit. They only see it as a problem when it hurts your career. Period. I don't agree with that, because there are people around you who might be suffering from your bullshit, but that's how most of them really think.
Yeah the dude who is 60 pounds overweight with a drinking and Xanax addiction has less of a problem than the guy who smokes weed and does semi-hard drugs like coke/Molly and psychedelics occasionally. (I’m prescribed Xanax so I’m not shitting on that, but drinking with it is horrible)
I used to take XTC a LOT at university but if a friend slipped me molly in a drink now that I am 52, I would freak. I am overweight, have heart issues and do not exercise much, so would probably have panic attacks, too. I would wait until the next time I saw the friend, then punch them real hard (in the face) and tell them never to do it again, and that I will never mention it again, if he does the same. This is so that we could continue being friends. People do make mistakes. Ari did wrong, we know that. He made a mistake - albeit a big one. The fact that he has no remorse at all is very sad and also very telling. What if Bert HAD had a heart attack or other health crisis - which was totally possible. Would Ari think it was so fucking funny, then? Also, his reason to do it is unbelievable selfish, and also a non-reason. If you don't want to do Sober October - don't do it. Don't drug your friend and then blame him for your actions. I think no-one would care if you missed Sober October - but no-one is in your corner on this one, Ari. If he was a more famous comic, it could easily have been a career-ending move. He is lucky he went under the radar.
I think that was a coping mechanism. Using humor to cover the fact that he's uncomfortable knowing that he's wrong. Didn't have the nads to apologize. I'm only 25 and I've done molly quite a few times im the past and I'd flip out if someone spiked me. I want to only ever do drugs on my own accord. OD'd it once and nearly sweat to death and shut down. Was shutting down and hallucinating.. Wouldn't want anyone to put me through that with some stupid shit like this from Ari.
@@TangoNevada ye i think it happened but you never know considering joe has been apart of hoaxes before like that brazilian who pretended to fight eddie bravo turns out he was a actor who eddie trained
@@FightsAndRapMedia The drugging wasnt mentioned in the texts i think, Ari just said that he had a great time the other day, which may not be how he usually talks when he texts
Everyone admits that the wrong thing was doing it behind his back. But Bert admitted that the main reason he wouldn't release the podcast is because he was having such a great time that he was worried kids would start taking Molly.
Your Comment Changes Nothing I’d be butthurt if someone fed my least-healthy friend amphetamines in front of his kids without pemission. That’s so dangerous... Ari keeps saying “molly” and if he wasn’t talking about chemical MDMA, that pill could have been anything from heroin to meth to carfentanil. Ari is a shitbird and he was still trying to play it off like it was no big deal here, like oh “you forced me to...” Fuck that guy lol, no one cares what he said about Kobe anymore.
@Your Comment Changes Nothing Christ man, I've seen you all over these comments. You're being quite a dickhead. Let it go through one ear and out the other, I could care less.
@Your Comment Changes Nothing I'm just telling you that you're a dick, let it go through one ear and out the other. I'm not following you, either. I'm simply reading the comments and you've been a dick multiple times.
It’s ecstasy. It makes you feel euphoric. Like you wanna be happy and that’s it. Stop. Bert is not a victim. Stop. Oh boo hoo ari wanted to give bert a fun healthy time in the comfort of Bert’s own home oh nooooo wahhhhhhhhhhh. The internet changed their opinion on this. Everyone is annoyed of bert for this now
A friend of mine put shrooms on another one of my friends burgers at a bbq one summer, he tripped so bad he had to be taken to the hospital and none of us speak to the guy anymore and he couldn’t understand why everyone was mad
@@thelastdadonearth id permanently cut someone off for spiking me with anything. That’s a sign of dishonesty and disloyalty. These people not cutting him off are going to suffer because they’re too afraid of short term drama
Every limpdick dork defending Ari because, "He just, like, doesn't care what other people think, bro." That's a shit quality. It's not quirky, unique, or sAvAgE. It's called being a piece of shit. Anybody defending this is a dorky little edgelord who needs to learn about the world.
Why on earth are these guys friends with Ari Shaffir. All of them seem like genuinely good guys… And then there’s Ari who for all intents and purposes is a dirt bag sociopath
No wonder. That is fucked, up. I've taken a lot of drugs in my time, but I never have and never would have spiked anyone. What if he'd have had a stroke or something? I've seen people have a stroke from smoking crack, and MDMA has you tweaked right up there.
