Johnny vs. Shantae and the Seven Sirens 

Mario: You too?

Shantae: You get sold as a living doll to a squid? Mario: I'ma shut up now

Mario: At least you don't have a double ganger who shared print all over the island and blames it on you and have to clean it, 'Sigh' My weekend was just painful!

Super Shantae Sunshine

Isle Delfeno can go stuff itself

The music fits the dancing and silhouette really well

True anime op

Rockin that goatee like it's the Metal Gear marathon.

@j1mjam DUDE, Looking at your profile pic hit me with a truck load of nostalgia. Aleta was my favorite character from Code Lyoko. Such an underrated French cartoon.

Ikr seeing shantae dance in his silhouette is like super cool looking and super nice to look at

I think these games are as mediocre as they are because wayforward realizes that people only like these games because of the sex appeal. People buy these games to jerk off, and there's no nice way of saying that

@@mcnierstenen9017 wow a fan53 account, if only the opinions of troglodytes mattered

@@mcnierstenen9017 wtf dude stop projecting

@@TheHDEpics Oh yeah, because i should take an anime profile picture seriously

@@mcnierstenen9017 haha it even does the classic 2018 fan53 instagram jokes. do another

That's Anime for ya. It's much more detailed and cleaner than most other styles of animation. But it's only really fluid in certain scenes. It's not as consistently smooth as other styles.

Like anime then

@@AnonymousGentooman so Ocarina of Time on project64?

Some drawings are also just a bit off when it comes to proportions, anatomy and perspective. Not by much, but it's especially visible when compared to the Trigger opening.

Idk, I knew they weren’t perfect, but I kinda expected that tbh. It never bothered me, if anything, I found the imperfections very charming since they’re obviously an indie studio doing it in-house.

replace Johnny with RU-vid in general and you got me

Some people aren't finished college yet?

@@islandboy9381 Lol same here ! It's a bit of a problem actually !

Stonetown3487 Yes That would be me lol

@@conorburke1999 well yes as it's a little known fact not everybody is the same age and does everything at the same time

eh, Gurren Lagann is considered an honorary Trigger anime anyway

@Tom The Fish Bones did the movie, right?

Nerd!

seems like that he did it as an equation, at one side Gurren Lagann and at the other Kill La Kill sum up to make what’s in the middle (Promare)

I like to think of Gurren Lagann as proto-Trigger, in that sense; same thing with Panty n Stocking.

I thought this soundtrack sounded a bit off

I think the soundtrack was still enjoyable but it’s not nearly as good as Kaufman’s work. On a bit of a side not does anyone think it’s weird that they had a remix of Risky’s theme but had a new (and completely inferior) boss theme?

It’s decent, but not as good as it could’ve been... Pirate’s Curse is still a better soundtrack for how high energy and intense it is

Even ignoring that, she's a likeable character.

@@kingofnothing5781 No U

My reason for wanting her in Smash.

Yea the gameplay is amazing have you tried pirate's curse

Yeah, they knew exactly what they were doing when making those cutscenes.

Yeah I do feel like this is the best way to put it. I definitely enjoyed the game and loved the underwater aesthetic the whole game had, but it did feel a little... slapped together in places. I agree with everything Johnny said but it still felt like a solid experience for me.

Mad Mage agreed, I think they could take some queues from 1/2 genie’s level designs. Everything looked different but also had different elements and mechanics

Agreed

With this, and it's stop-go progression. The game becomes such a boring slog

@@dylanscheffer915 I wonder if part of the issue is that this game was a lab rat for Apple Arcade and was bottlenecked because of that

NOT THE BEARD THE SOURCE OF HIS POWER IS GONE

I miss it already, he was like a warm coffee drinking bear with it.

Mmm shaved bread *ahhhhhhhh* *drools loudly*

So that's what it was, I noticed a difference but couldn't put my finger on what it was.

THE SACRED *BEARD!*

Christian Lopez all for a f***ing postcard

@@shujinkoMK I mean it was a really nice postcard.

Bruh just pirate and buy if you like it.

@@MrFanboy24 pirating indie games is pretty scummy

I pirated it, liked it, and bought it. A happier ending than just giving it a miss.

Shantae 06

Guess what? Update time. Look for a trailer

Same, I can actually go off more than a trailer to see if this game is worth it

Sameee I preordered but it wont come for like 2 to 3 months

I got it digital on PS4 for trophies and purchased the special LE Switch version.

You have until Sunday to get it from Limited Run

Limited Run Games?

I think the problem is that you can't easily just plaster the mechanics from Pirate's Curse into a new game because she only had the abilities due to the story of the game. So they want to keep Shantae's defining feature of dancing, but can't quite figure out how to make it work in a similar style to the pirate items.

I haven’t played Pirates Curse myself but it’s a shame they used the formula for that game so quickly because it’s very obvious that they aren’t sure how to evolve the series gameplay beyond that.

There is no DLC planned

@@PepsiGolem I'd say the problem is that WayForward probably never believed Shantae would get this massive. We're talking about a game series that originally only saw 25,000 copies sold globally on its first release. Now, it hit a milestone of over 3 million units. Which, yes, is a massive landmark for any Indie series. Pirate's Curse isn't held to a golden standard just because of the power-ups ― pacing, exploration, worthwhile challenge, fun bosses, snappy moment-to-moment action ― that all played a role in making that game so memorable. Just my humble opinion.

@@millabasset1710 i am sure costumes are planed at some point as cosmetic DLC's are always a thing in games like these

And everyone else.

*Same*

Me playing Seven Sirens Johnny uploads Seven Sirens review. *I'll sacrifice playing Seven Sirens to watch someone play Seven Sirens*

Yes

Well your not called " GAMING MOTION " for nothing am I right?

You can still like a video game series while admitting that got its problems and flaws

I feel like Johnny's the most qualified RU-vidr on the platform when it comes to reviewing Shantae games

@Tom The Fish Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't he only like Pirate's Curse?

@@motorwayt-s628 Yeah, i mean this dude's a fan of the Sonic Series, it's obvious he can tolerate a few, or a lot (depending on what game), of flaws and still be a fan of something most of the time!

Duskool same for me as a star fox fan, I really enjoy those games but most if not all of them have flaws

Oh I’d KILL to play that form she takes for the Quake Dance

It would depend on if you prefer a slightly challenging game vs one with better graphical fidelity. Overall it seems Pirate's Curse is still the best platforming experience.

Sherry Florio Like for me it’s pirates curse Then probably tie with half genie hero and seven sirens. And then honestly tied at bottom for Shantae 1 and Risky’s revenge. Shnatae can be really frustrating to play but RR is still easily the most boring game in the series for me.

Pirates curse was my first shantae game so I cant speak for 1 and 2 but pirates curse is by far the best one compared to half genie and seven sirens

Where’s fate at hands sir ?

Yeah. My list from best to worst is 1. Half Genie Hero 2. Pirate's Curse 3. Shantae GBC 4. Seven Sirens 5. Risky's Revenge

They're making a TV show tho

@Ryan Fanstone ok do you know any that is a actual show with a plot thats not just fucking? If not then we need one hell Senran Kagura has one and that is just straight up softcore Porn but boy the games are addicting to play. You can turn off cloths tear and jiggles physics in the games and just play them as a hack and slash fighting games for the most part varies game by game on what Genre the game is in as they have a Sports one and a really weird creepy one called Reflexions that if you seen someone playing you would tell them go to the side of the street to pick up a hooker and get laid as clearly they need it. But anyways as i was saying we need one where the plot is just not Sex as that is a pretty boring show as you fap once and move on and never look back and hope you deleted your internet history otherwise people are going to question your art tastes

Wayforward is pursuing an animated series so a cartoon by Trigger is very possible. Tho it all depends. I mean that intro just SCREAMS "cartoon pilot"

@Ryan Fanstone No, it really doesn't.

I want a cartoon than an anime

I know why he didn't do it, it was because in this game the cards have so little physical effect that it is honestly EXTREMELY easy to forget you have certain cards equipped until you feel an irksome feeling as to why you feel so slow sometimes when traveling

IF YOU LOSE THE DUEL, YOU LOSE YOUR SOUL!!

Any source on that one m8?

@@AnonymousGentooman It was not really released episode by episode on apple arcade. Just a demo, and then the full release. Also, most Shantae games have an episodic feel.

I played part 1 of apple arcade version and the game was already easier. you don't have to bend down to hit small enemies

development started before apple arcade existed

oh there are comics alright just not the kind you are expecting

johnny elkins Considering his profile pic I think those are the exact comics he’s looking for

Okay but off topic, how is area loading on the switch compared to pc?

AV dE it’s a little on the long side but it doesn’t really chug or lag

@@AVdE10000 I will let you know when I get it

Debatable.

@@ChillStreamsLive No it’s not.

_Yes._

Maybe, but even at it worst a Shantae is still a solid 7.

It's the only one I haven't played, but watched and can understand entirely. Lots of lore bg, perfect end to the series with high tier threatening boss, boss matters to Shantae and the abilities work perfectly well while also having synergy and more streamlined than the dancing.

Personally disagree. I feel Half-Genie Hero is the best game and Seven Sirens is just as good as Pirate's Curse. I also feel this game has potential for future installments given the increased lore and worldbuilding. It answered many questions we had since the first game, after all.

@@goldenheart9503 HGH would work better with couple more levels and less backtracking, like Mega Man X. Still love the game, especially the OST.

I can do ya another: I didn’t know you could whip the spike platforms too rotate them, so I used Newt to cling to the sides.

I liked more HG than seven sirens. I was quick to finish the game in a day while with half genie it took more time. Though seven sirens has more quality and I like the new characters. If they had made the stages more pretty like in HG it would've been cool

I think HGH is the best Shantae game

@@janegrean5888 Pirate is fun but after the power ups is too easy while in half genie you gotta still go through obstacles.

@@dcscruz2970 I'm not a fan of the pirate gear and I didn't care for the story and the soundtrack wasn't as good as HGH

@@janegrean5888 The soundtrack in PC is the best in the series, honestly. HGH is fine, but PC has one of the best soundtracks of any game, period.

It's my favorite too.

Shantae goes to prison in Shantae 6 confirmed!

EMOLGAxSNEASEL64 Shantae: Sequin Ocean

yup. can't blame him for that tbh, that mechanic is grand

Need Johnny vs. Mega Man Zero and ZX yesterday.

It was rad when ZX did it and I’d love for Shantae to try that idea too

@@giygas_9577 I feel like he’d have both a ball and a frustrating time with ZX

That song is such a total bop.

Christina Vee does get around, doesn't she?

@@Zakanuva She sure does!

I don't know. I'm on the Xbox One S and, besides the long-ish loading times, I've had a rather pleasant time. No show down, stuttering, or anything of that nature.

My load times (Switch) were kinda long, and I've had 1 or 2 cases of slowdown, but my console didnt whir up like Johnny's PC apparently did.

I'm playing on Switch and only ran into slow downs in 2 areas. Game never crashed for me too

@Quinn McDonnell Sorry for the late reply, it's called Big Think Dimension

Quinn McDonnell yeah, they talk about games and other stuff like what spam meals they’ve been having, but it’s most game stuff

@@mushplush9665 What exact episode did they talk about this game?

I'd say Sonic, actually. He loves the blue guy to death when he's done right but he's criticized more Sonic games than praised, I find. That's not to say games like 06 and Secret Rings don't deserve said criticism.

ill admit I'm a fan of the series though he does bring up some legitimate issues like warping and the easy drops of food and money and the large locations, I still like the game but either you love a game or not their is still something to criticize from everyone, its usually down to different viewpoints

To be fair, with the exception of PC, all of them are kinda meh. They have a lot of problems people are willing to overlook because the character is cute and the games are super easy.

@@meikaishi oh definitely, im just pointing out that for every positive he gives with these games there always seems to be something else that counters it

People have opinions. I feel like people blow the hatred of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Gates to Infinity, Sonic Lost World, Shantae half-genie hero, Sonic Forces, Super Mario Sunshine, Smash Bros. Brawl and Paper Mario Color Splash WAY out of proportion, but I mean you like what you like and hate what you don't Honestly as long as you'll explain yourself, I'll listen, but if you're just like "Wow you really dislike Sonic Mania" and refuse to do anything but spam memes to defend your point just get out of my face.

I still think most Shantae games are solid compared to Sonic catalog.

Lol at least shantae games always been consistently good compare to sonic lol not try hate here lol

Don't you EVER compare this series to sonic. Do you even know the full on mess of that series?

Sadly the new game is not worth buying

That's a poor comparison, since the recent Shantae games are fun to play but lack the full potential. The modern Sonic games are a failure in writing and design.

I miss the dance variety too

He really should do a dkc marathon

Questions like these are usually answered with an "eventually" so don't loose hope yet.

No.

I'm on board! DKC Marathon! It can include the originals, the Land versions, the GBA ports, and of course DK64

I’d love to see him do conker’s bad fur day

Me too. Holly's more of a memory vampire/ghost than a half genie.

So kind of like A link between worlds?

@@danielj8085 A lot of Metroidvanias have this feature.

@@yuurou7927 Gotta be honest: Haven't played that many Metroidvanias. XD

This. There doesn't need to be a checklist like previous games, but that feature for the map would be appreciated. For first time playthroughs anyway.

Congrats managing to graduate despite the COVID-19 shit.

At least they didn't hold us back because we weren't in school

Congrats!!

Congratulations!!! I'm sorry it wasn't a real graduation like you would have wanted :(

@@toamatoro570it’s not over lol.

Me too... In the time since last review where he said this is what he was reviewing this week, even.

@@sterlingmuse5808 Yeah and I didn't even know a mobile version existed either! It's really strange...

Same, I simply saw the Apple Arcade version and asked where the other version were...

And i completely forgot that this franchise existed :-P

Don't forget the GBA ones! Well... Actually Circle of the Moon is better to be forgotten... Harmony of Dissonance too to be honest... Just don't forget Aria of Sorrow

@@atijohn8135 neither Circle nor Harmony deserve to be forgotten. Circle is satisfyingly challenging, while Harmony has a phenomenal horror-like atmosphere. They're not the best in the series but they can still give lessons to a lot of the bland, cookie-cutter metroidvanias coming out recently.

@@MrMrFreddy Circle of the Moon has a good amount of challenge - that's good, however I feel like the boss fights are extremely slow in comparsion to those from Aria, or even Harmony (despite Harmony being probably the easiest portable castlevania). Moveset in Circle is lacking, there's no backdash, no divekick, and of course there's the terrible decision to bind the ability to run to a 2x(direction) combination. Visually it's the worst one, the castle looks very samey, which was something SotN already solved masterfully. Most of the soundtrack is just remixes from previous games (and why they had to put the same music in 5 areas, it gets old very quickly). DSS cards are very unbalanced and they are based on RNG, but not like the souls in Aria. You simply cannot finish the game with at least 20 of them, while in Circle of the Moon I usually have 5-6 cards at the end of a playthrough, because the drop rates are so horribly low. Harmony of Dissonance in 2002 maybe was a little bit scary and the music was helping to build that emotion, but nowadays the music is just annoying to listen. This is because most of the tracks in the game are a "dissonance", which is simply not pleasant to the human ear. Besides, what is a horror game if there's no threat? Since Harmony of Dissonance is probably the second easiest castlevania there is, some might even say it's easier than SotN. It doesn't help that the game doesn't have much character customization. There are plenty of spellbooks and subweapons, but without the challenge, you might as well ignore them or stick to only one of them. Potions are too plentiful, since there's no limit on them and they are cheap. Then there's the biggest advantage and at the same time disadvantage of Harmony - level design. In your first playthrough, Harmony is just a chore to go through. At the beginning of the game (castle A - entrance)) there's some sort of rock blocking your path. In the next part of the game (castle B - treasury) you come to the other side, and there's another rock blocking your path. It indicates that it may be something important, since they put two entrances to the same place, something Castlevania didn't do before. In the next part of the game (castle A - chapel) there's a similar rock in a corner of the map. That rock doesn't feel that important - you could think that it leads to just a life up or some book, especially since there's the other path blocked by it that seems far more important. You then get the ability to warp between the two castles, and with it you get the ability to break those rocks. What most players would probably do, is to get back to the two rocks blocking the passage. Turns out, there's absolutely nothing in there besides some items that are rather useless because of the game's difficulty. The entire trip, which takes around 20 minutes, is completely wasted. This is something that is just ridiculous to me. And that's something that happens more than once in the game - you go somewhere and suddenly you cannot progress, because you need the abiltiy that was in the area that was the other path in the forkroad. It's literally dependant on your own luck if you will have to waste 40 minutes, just because you picked the wrong path, which had no indication that it is the wrong path. *However* this aspect of the game is also something that makes it strangely gratifying to plot your way through the castle, now that you know the layout. But I think it's still better to have a level design present in all of the other games (aside from maybe the ultra linear first 3 quarters of Order of Ecclesia). Two of those games are probably better than the object of this video. But those games are also quite old, and well, if I had to pick which portable CVs would make it into the video, I'd probably pick Aria of Sorrow.

@@atijohn8135 yeah I understand most of your points (I don't share all of them but I think they're fair) and I also think Aria to be the superior game in the GBA trilogy. Still, I really like them. Circle is weird but really engaging to me, too bad for the randomness of the DSS because it's a system I really like. Harmony I always feel the urge to defend it because in my personal opinion it's really unfairly treated. I really love its OST and even the raw sound quality, I listen to a lot of dissonant music so that soundtrack really clicked with me and sounds really unsettling, I think the compositions are quite sophisticated. To me they corroborate a (sort of) horror atmosphere because the game is almost completely devoid of friendly characters (Maxim is mad, Lydie is missing until the very late game, Merchant is... well, the Merchant) and the castle is really enigmatic in nature, seeing as it appears halfway through Dracula's typical resurrection century. The combination of this setting and the unnerving music makes me feel like I am exploring a spectral, rotting carcass of the castle. Maybe I overthink it, but when it comes to raw atmosphere, Harmony is one of my all time favorite 'vanias, it makes me really enthusiast haha

Maybe this will be the year.

While they should strive to do better instead of just playing it safe, that's an unnafordable bar for WayForward to reach. They're an indie developer, BotW and Mario Odyssey were polished to such a massive degree not only because of talent but because of financial security and high budgets behind the games.

@@roskiart8750 Money talks, but there have been enough indie exceptions to show that you can make extremely competent games with indie budgets That aside, financial support certainly would help Wayforwards situation.

@Jamar XD Probably, but who knows when that would be? I mean, I say, make every game like it'll be your last one; especially if you're an Indie Dev. Because, the last game you make could potentially be the one that you didn't expect to be your last, and thus the quality isn't as great as it could've been. I really feel this Shantae game kind of dipped in quality, compared to it's previous title. And looking over all the previous games as well, they always seemed to try something different that enhanced their respective title and pushed their gameplay while still staying true to it's core mechanics.

I would argue Squid Baron is the highlight of the series. I laughed so hard when I finished that one squid siren fight,and he 's outside yelling at you for ripping off the final boss from his video game idea.

I like the way he apealed to both ALM and BLM.

This hasn’t aged well.

@@boop0122 Ain't that the truth... Despite humoring this radical mob, they wound up just being another laundering scheme and racial attacks skyrocketed against Asians and Jews on top of general crime

I can’t imagine Johnny reviewing a VN, somehow. It’s not really as much of a ‘game’.

The way Danganronpa does it isn't jarring though. It's consistent. The only real voice acting are featured in the trials and very plot important scenes. Everything else is just text. From what it sounds like, 7 Sirens text boxes flip flop from voiced to not voiced randomly.

He'll definitely say this too if he ever reviews any of the Hyperdimension Neptunia games. (Provided he sticks with the English dub since All cut scenes have Japanese dub).

To be fair a lot of games do this especially visual novels or games that have lots of story

With the best portrayal of David Hasselhoff, no less.

Where is he now

I finally finished the DLC a week ago, glad to see people are still playing it.

King Nothing Sorry, just wanted to share what kind of a day I’m having

Raphaël Hemery me too

Shundero Monamero he’s at the master sword

Yep. I knew someone would have beaten me to it.

And that's bad because...?

or the "good game" either

@@AmarantFFO Ok ShovelBro...

@@DirectorOfChaos9292 it was partly a jab on how while all the designs are varied, they keep relying on the trope of the female characters basically just wearing bras, and secondly it's just not my style, I like more clothes on my characters than less, but again that's just personal taste

"Ma'am, For the LASS'TIME; If ya wanna Oyder somethin', ya GOTTA put a SHOYT on..."

Oops. I knew someone had beat me to it.

Yeah the King Knight thing for Shovel Knight is god damn enourmous. It's bigger than the other 3 Shovel Knight games _combined_ and is way way more difficult, to me anyway. I keep on getting stuck on certain levels and I could still advance because of how the world map is laid out, you can skip levels and still progress, but I'm a completionist so I have to beat every level. Like I do in Mario 3, I play every single level. Eventually I'll learn how to play King Knight but yeah I don't know why it's so much more difficult. It's like how the New Super Mario Bros series of games is WAY harder than the original NES and SNES mario games, even harder than the Lost Levels. Because I keep accidentally wall jumping and stuff. King Knight is the same, I keep accidentally doing moves without meaning to and falling down pits

Only in specific areas, and it never crashed on me after some 15 hours.

@@HyperSonicX My major problem was with the sound and video being off-sync. It threw me off-point a couple times. While a pause and unpause solves the issue, it's weird because the video and controls work exactly as they do, but then the sound goes wacko.

@@SoupCanMafia on switch? Im on pc but never exp that. Only slow load screens and cutscenes not playing visually (that one is just my laptop being shit). Though yeah the Apple arcade thing may have led to most of the game's complaints and its just weird in general. Hope the next one isnt limited by that

I beat it two times, and never crashed. I can't tell if loading times are shorter elsewhere. It does chug like a Super Nintendo game when there's a lot of enemies on-screen, but the game is too easy, it doesn't affect gameplay IMO.

CRASHED?! How?

To be honest tho I really love the designs and see some potential in them. The Koopalings also had no personalities for like 2 decades but were greatly expanded in the Mario rpgs later on.

I'd say its equal to pirates curse and HGH is above both

@@gamerprince-tl5hg wow, another Shantae fan that doesn't rank Pirate's Curse at #1. Though for me it's a tie for #1 with HGH. I just can't pick which one I like better, there are things I prefer from each over the other