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While I understand your sentiment regarding an adult Jojo collabing with problematic influencers, I wish you delved deeper into how young she was when she first started associating with them and them grooming her to not think twice about the adults’ inappropriate behavior. Of course, she’s still an adult and should know better, but I imagine it’s hard to separate oneself from adults they’ve known since they were young
Thank you for at least mentioning she is an adult. While I think her childhood had a lot to shape what’s happening now, if I see one more person call a 20 year old “kid”- she’s a young adult and it’s not fair to her to keep speaking and treating her as if she has no capabilities to grow because she was on tv as a child. That’s taking her intelligence for granted and feels patronizing
I have to say that your inclusion of political topics in the middle of your videos is appreciated...teach the people, while they're struggling through the latest Shane weird-fest.
When I'm not paying careful attention it's like (๑•﹏•) Shane spent the first forty minutes of his video trying to sell his oowoo baybysona and actually child labor laws are extremely exploitative and you should research the politicians in your area in case they support those types of laws. I'm,, when did we... start this discussion 😂😂
@@ForeverL0vingH3r you’re fine. I’m just kinda making a jab at Shane. Idk if you’re familiar with it but he seems to think lesbians are a punchline. His old short films and his published books have a strange amount of jokes that use lesbians to paint negative pictures but in a haha way. Like he says he looks like a fat lesbian or something like that etc. it’s just odd…
@@Lunar_Butterfly he said word for word that he used to look like a fat lesbian as a kid so yeah he def think theyre really weird but in the way that conservatives think trans ppl r weird, iykyk
All of the content that was claimed was released (besides the h3 podcast), her lawyers said yesterday that "she didn't upload the song or claim any videos" 🙄 suuurreee we definitely believe that
@nitrofairywing1541 well, her lawyer also represents Bryan Singer (known pedophile/rapist director), Danny Masterson (convicted rapist) and Prince Andrew (known pedophile/rapist) soooooo can't expect much from them
Speaking of child labour...Of course Shane has a TEMU sponsorship. Because overconsumption of cheap stuff made from poor quality materials and by poor people in sweatshops is everything we need in a global recession whilst we are drowning in crap 🙄
@makemesomecoffee7821 a lot of these fast fashion sites make extra money by selling their customers information. Temu was actually caught not only doing that, but it's how they make the bulk of their money and how everything is able to be so cheap. It's literally their business plan to keep the company aflot so they will never stop doing it even tho they were caught.
I've always seen JoJo as being highly groomed so taking to groomers as an adult isn't surprising. That's what's familiar to her. I've dated many narcissists because of my mom. It's sad really.
i agree with your main point, but could you please not demonize npd 😭 having a diagnosis of a personality disorder doesn't inherently make someone a bad person or an abuser
@@the-postal-dudethat part in our society especially online every person with a big ego seems to be called a narcissist and it's really annoying bc this isn't some term you can just use against ppl you don't lik/ who did you wrong it's a mental illness that needs to be diagnosed by a professional/caring ppl your in community with .
@@the-postal-dudeMuch of the criteria for NPD revolves around the way they treat others, and while it's totally subjective what makes someone a bad person, everyone with NPD will hurt others. Of course, so will every other person to ever exist lol. The conversation around narcissistic abuse is incredibly important in my opinion, as for me personally, learning that the things I experienced fit within a recognized pattern was the biggest breakthrough in my healing from childhood/adolescent trauma. Unfortunately, the diagnosis isn't often helpful to the patient, and some experts question whether it's even a useful diagnosis because "subjective distress" isn't something that many people who fit the criteria would be able to acknowledge or admit - even to themselves, since the disorder itself is based around manipulation of their own self image. On top of that, the amount of effort it would take to override their natural thoughts and behavior every day, possibly for the rest of their life, would be beyond exhausting. I feel awful for people with NPD, because they didn't ask to turn out that way, and they are miserable deep down, but the more we stigmatize the behaviors (not the people,) the less people with NPD we create. I'm sorry about the novel lol, I'm not trying to come at you or anything, it's just one of my favorite topics to discuss. I really like Dr. Ramani's videos if you're interested too.
I live in a state that turned back chold labor laws. I think we should lower the voting age to the age they will "allow" children to work. No taxation without representation.
Jojo's been exposed to reality TV since she was 9, that's got to warp your perceptions of stuff. As for Shane, watching him in 2023 makes me realise just how strong my meds were back in 2017 to have actually found him funny. 😂
I get the same feeling from Shane and the gang as I do when find old leftovers in the fridge. Like, ewww. Get it in the trash as quickly as possible. Spray down the surface where it was with lysol.
RIGHT?? Like seriously how does he have fans at all, even back then? Of course these people cater to kids, only immature and still forming brains would want to seek out and watch a Shane Dawson, Jmes Charles, or Miranda Sings video.
When people have been in the industry practically since infancy, it’s hard to distinguish friend from foe. How would you know what healthy is, if you’re not exposed to it? Having people ignore boundaries (while you struggle to cement them) to the point that they become fluid, would feel, normal!
Correct. And that is where I take issue with people coming after Jojo. I’m not saying she’s amazing or perfect or that she hasn’t messed up. But for the majority of these collars she was a literal child or at least a teenager. She literally became an adult 2 years ago. When you have grown up in this kind of system, when you have lived this kind of life since you were a child, when your most developmental stages took place in this chaos and manipulation… you don’t see the red flags! You don’t understand how bad it is, because you have known these people since childhood. Your brain doesn’t want to recognize that your whole life, you have been lied to and exploited. Let’s not forget, she was exploited as a child. She was put on TV at the mere age of nine and had her life broadcast to the world in a reality show, where she would be emotionally and verbally abused. Her mom put her in situations where she was working too long. I also wouldn’t be surprised if her mother pocketed the money. On top of that, she wasn’t allowed to develop or make big mistakes as a teen, because she had to be a “role model” and put on a heavily monitored, crafted persona so that she could make (her exploiters) money. She probably missed a number of developmental milestones because of how she was treated and forced into this role model position for kids. Even then, parents criticized her for not being a good enough role model, when she was trying to be perfect. I’m not saying it’s ok for her to collab with these RU-vidrs or give them relevance, but we also have to recognize these are people she has known since she was a kid and that she was most likely a victim of them too. Also, she wasn’t exactly protected from hate, especially online. She was a literal child who was reading and listening to constant complaints, threats, and critiques towards her for the smallest, most innocent things. Her appearance was criticized and picked apart by trolls. That takes a toll on a child and she probably recognizes she didn’t deserve that. I wouldn’t be surprised if she thinks that that is what’s happening to her RU-vid “friends” and feels like she’d be participating in hurting others if she criticized them. Not to mention, even if she wants to, her PR team probably wouldn’t allow it unless they are sure it will reflect positively on her. In the end, blame the system, not the people who were raised in it.
EXACTLYYYY. Now people are trying to paint her as this manipulative mastermind, as an adult who should know better (SHES 20 AND HAS BEEN GROOMED), as someone who's just as bad as who she associates with... This is mind numbing and I don't even consume her content.
It's clear that Jojo is a victim herself of these abusive and manipulative adults with platforms. She doesn't see how what they're doing is "that bad" because she's used to it and was most likely manipulated into accepting that kind of behavior.
Dang, she really said, "Who here has been caught doing terrifyingly objectionable things to minors and possibly animals??? 👀 Can I associate with you and bolster your viewcount?! 😃" Yikes. She seems nice on her own, but wtf.
I think Shane's hairline starts to recede and that's why he parts his hair so atrociously. You are rich, Shane, you can just get a new hairline, there's no need to style it to look like you got sucked into a wind turbine.
Right? Like every relationship that JoJo has been in since she came out has been filled with drama because she’s too immature and treats every relationship like it is “the one“. I understand that she’s young but when she has so many people looking up to her it’s just… Not a good look for her.
I don't know how much agency Jojo has over her content or career, I remember her talking bout how her mother used to wake her up as a kid and made her dance for her family or friends that were visiting, and then she went to participate in Dance Moms and her mom used to say that all she wanted was for Jojo to be famous, so everyone in her life has been exploitative :/ she was like, groomed to be famous at a very young age.
Jojo is in a uniquely rare position where everything she does looks good because she never sticks around to look bad; a smart move on her part. She looks like she’s doing charity work when she visits these other RU-vidrs (which she basically is). Even in her collab with James Charles she didn’t spend the day with him then went out and bought coffees for a while store, some grocery store food and a gift for James. It makes her look so good by comparison. And maybe that’s what it is. Maybe continuing to associate with these people is a way to make herself look great with minimal to no effort. If that’s the case then it’s brilliant because even though she’s gotten a little criticism, I guarantee you no one will put her on any of these other youtubers’ level. Rather they’ll look at her and say, “Yeah, Shane/ James/ Colleen is the worst but wow, Jojo is such a good friend and a good person!” It’s kinda ingenious honestly
As someone who has always worked in bars/restaurants that bill to allow 14 year olds to serve alcohol is wild. Just so unnecessary. Where I live you have to be 19. Also, the way drunk guys relentlessly hit on and harrass waitresses is hard enough to maneuver as a 19+ imagining a 14 year old in that scenerio bothers me
I was extremely disappointed to learn that in the state of Washington, it is LEGAL to pay CHILDREN less than minimum wage for work bc they're not adults. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
I never found Shane's ' quirky ' personality he puts on for RU-vid to ever be endearing, but now that he's in his mid-thirties, it's just uncomfortable. He's way too old to be acting the way he is. It's not cute, it's just weird.
@@makemesomecoffee7821 I will not try to change your mind. However, I will say you could probably get away with it into your 20s. When you get to his age? Not so much.
I feel like Jojo Siwa could have been the inclusive, lesbian-icon young people needed, but unfortunately turned just as corrupt/problematic as the adults around her. You can be both a victim of the adults around you and at the same time be a problematic adult, and she really walks that fine line.
@@killerqueendopamine She's done plenty to hurt both her fans and people she surrounds herself with (friends?), there are many examples. Starting with collabing with terrible internet celebrities (yes, AFTER they've been outed as shitty.) If that's not enough for you, remember that Google is free, so is TikTok, so is Twitter, they can be accessed on any mobile device to search for evidence of shittery. If you're unsure of how to use those resources, ask literally any five-year-old.
@@alanefideler7234 jesus fucking christ dude, just say you're too lazy to explain shit to people. Many haven't heard of what she's done and also, depending on where you are, google results are different. I didn't find shit about her being problematic, all i found was conservatives pissing their pants about her being "too woke" So like? At least point to a source?
The thing about jojo is she probably can't see the issues with these problematic people because it's all she's used to. She's the only one who still has a good relationship with Abby Lee Miller and it all makes sense.
Is the term Jojo-washing in the urban dictionary yet? Seems like it might become a thing but I don’t blame her… it will be years before she starts to unpack all the ways adults exploited her in her youth. LOVE the informational bits you tuck in your videos Nick! You made the AFHV theme song both bleak and hysterical, and I’m grateful that you are sharing that talent with all of us❤
Shane telling JoJo that he's been calling her a lesbian all day took me right beck to high school. Back when Shane was super popular and my straight "friends" would find it hilarious to just yell some variation of lesbian at me.
I feel as though I can't be too harsh on Jojo, because she's been systematically groomed and exploited since she was a child, Abby, her mom, colleen and Rachel, Shane, Trisha, etc. This is all she knows, the people who were her mentors and protectors, and who she grew up with. I'd love to see you delve into that topic
Jojo doing a video with Miranda Sings a couple of years ago is how my daughter found out about Miranda Sings and I had to put a stop to that shit with a quickness. My daughter is seven and she's been obsessed with JoJo since she was around 3. In terms of people my kid watches on a loop, I've always thought JoJo was alright (which is good because now my four year old niece is also obsessed with JoJo so it seems like this family will be hearing JoJo's awful music for many years to come) and JoJo is also how my kid found out who James Charles was (I still have to argue with her something like 3 years later about why she can't watch that asshole). So do I wish JoJo didn't have such assholes for friends? Yeah. But do I get that originally she was probably just stuck doing videos with these people by her team and may have friendships with them now? I would assume that's the case. I still think of her as a kid but she's grown now and she has lived the overwhelming majority of her life doing what everyone wanted her to do so now that she's coming into her own, if she does something I don't want my kid to watch, I'll just have her skip that video. I love that sweatshirt she gave Shane. I could only imagine my child's reaction if I got that. lmao Besides, it would be false advertisement. I'm not quite as gay as JoJo. 😂
@@r22755problematic is a word used for anything nowadays, i really don't like it, it lost its meaning entirely also agree they are far more than just 'problematic'
She seemed so unimpressed with both of them lol. I truly can't imagine working as a celebrity, I don't have the stamina to pretend I like people I don't.
Just a reminder, Jojo has been in the industry her entire life- with stage parents that she still lives with. This is less about this video and more about discourse I’m seeing in general
Jojo is just the internet version of a child movie/tv star. (Yes, she was on traditional media too but most of the stars we associate with the trend were still up and coming before internet stardom really hit, and were no where near as integrated into internet media as she is) How many of them have we seen crash and burn once they’re an adult because they’ve grown up with cameras in their face, a lack of boundaries, a lack of influences to ground them to reality, really just a lack of influences saying NO? Like sure she hasn’t turned to abusing substances and hard partying (yet) like we normally associate with the typical child star burnout but to me this is just a new era. I don’t know how much of her professional online life is managed for her but it seems like she needs someone better. These influencers aren’t your “friends,” these adults in their late 20’s and 30’s are just contributing to the grooming of her. She’s at a pivotal point where I hope she listens to her audience giving her a wake up call after seeing her with all these people recently and has someone in her life who can give her healthy normal life advice. I think a lot of people are rooting for her to be successful, to do good, to have a happy and healthy life doing what she loves but she’s really at a point where I think it might all fizzle out or turn really dark if she doesn’t take a moment to reflect and listen to people in her life who actually have her best interests at heart. (PS this internet figure isn’t as big but Ashley Gavin, a comedian that blew up on tik tok, is also having her actions addressed right now and Jojo was on her podcast. Just another mid-30’s problematic adult she’s been associated with🙃)
I'm glad the first words in this video are "WHO IS JOJO SIWA?" because girl I have no idea and I look forward to learning why everyone is Big Mad at this baby child
I've always hated the exchange credit cards and buy something videos. Especially when they go "there's no limit I trust you" It stresses me out so much. I would NEVER hand my card to a friend and let them buy stuff. It's such a privileged trend because most of us have to preserve money and not just buy random shit for a video. I dont find it entertaining and it just feels like a flex.
I love how you can talk about stupid stuff on the internet and still insert important messages like child labour so effortlessly! you are really one of the funniest youtubers to me, I have great respect for you and your work, thanks for doing it❤
If you look at all the horrible things, she says about her ex girlfriends on a pretty consistent and regular basis That’s sending millions of fans to head on her exes RU-vid channels I think it’s pretty obvious where JoJo Siwa sits in all of this She broke up with her oldest ex girlfriend multiple years ago, but she’s still making frequent videos about her oldest ex girlfriend to the point where that woman had to deal with mental health issues That’s a serious issue😅
My favorite unnoticed tidbit is how Shane Dawson used a Temu coupon code that anyone can get from signing up and participating in the in-app activities (the more people who use your code, the more in-store money credit you make to buy free stuff) and recording it like it's an official sponsorship
I found your channel about a week ago and I have been watching nonstop. I love your energy and enthusiasm! I am a 55 year old woman who doesn’t know what or who you are talking about half the time but damn it is entertaining, keep up the great work!
Oh thank Gods. I kept seeing shit about Jojo on snapchat but I hate clicking through those ad filled news garbles. I am so Happy you are covering this, thank you for everything you do.
Thank you for your vulnerability, Nick! Also, I love that you bring up timely socio-political topics in almost every video! Making us laugh while also keeping us conscious citizens. 👍🏼
Unfortunately, in my state, they just took away the need for work permits for those under 16, taking away a lot of the protection put in place within those permits. Child labor is back in, particularly in factories like Tyson in rural or less metropolitan areas. I live in the southern US and it isnt uncommon at all to hear of someone who has a family member that quit school early to work in construction or at a factory (L'Oreal and CocaCola are others in my area hiring children).
I was going to ask if you live in Michigan until you said you live in the south, seems like that’s happening everywhere though unfortunately. But maybe if the south started voting in their best interest they wouldn’t be complaining about people taking their jobs that they themselves refuse to take because they think they’re above those jobs.
Omg thank you. Why is it necessary to tear down women all the time? She respects them but not the people she dates or "the girls who are all dramatic".
i will never not enjoy nicks content. such legitimate criticisms with some of the best delivery of top tier jokes and sandwiched inbetween is a legitimate cause he educated the audience on. one of my favorite commentators on the platform. i couldn't rank them, but his precision definitely places him in top 3
@@illuminaticonfirmed1389probably because she was groomed as a child into thinking this behavior is normal. She’s been in the industry since she was nine years old and was introduced to these predators at a young age, making her more moldable for them. Not to mention, people tend to find others with similarities to them, and unfortunately that’s not different for predators. That means they’ll know people who are also predators and probably introduce their victims to those people as well. I don’t think she’s intentionally collaborating with predators, I think that’s the people she’s been introduced to over the years by associates.
Honestly I don't think we should blame her for collaborating with people who were popular at the time or reached out to her. The girl grew up on Dance Moms you don't know what kind of work ethic or issues the people around her gave her.
'An inquisitive tenor with a valley-girl vocal fry' just killed me. You have a rare gift for descriptions, but that was a stand out bit of writing there; you should be way, way more famouser. Very good vid all around, but I frikkin' lost it right there.
I'm the shy quiet lady in my office, and I almost spit out my coffee when you said that 😂 if they only knew, in my wireless head phones, you were in my ear talking about you UPS man trauma and making me laugh (really really quietly)
Nick explaining how he/they is not the How You're Going to Die Man while turning up the brightness to reveal that it is indeed him/them made me laugh the hardest for some reason.
Nick, your videos are always a delight! I love how you can make me laugh about stupid RU-vid nonsense while still educating me about important current events. I know I’m not the first person to say this but the way you use your platform to shed light on important subjects is commendable!
please don’t take me saying this as me saying jojo deserves zero criticism whatsoever, but i can’t help but feel bad for her in the sense that her relationship with these youtubers almost reminds me of the whole billie eilish/ jesse rutherford thing, where obviously past the age of 21 anyone could see it was weird he was pursuing this girl he’s known since she was 16.. and she’s young too so she also still had those rose colored glasses on. i obviously don’t know jojo nor any of these people in the slightest bit but i bet in a few years she’s gonna realize none of these people really have her best interest
@@MurronWright I've been thinking about this, and maybe I just don't know enough about Trisha, but I don't think it's that big of a deal? She could have just decided later on as she got older than she's no longer comfortable interacting with minors. I don't think her past actions contradict her current morals in this instance. But maybe I just don't know enough about Trisha.
"GirLS aARE dRAmaatIC" she says to the guy about to fake cry over hearing 'i respect you' as she's driving away after being there for 10 minutes to show off her merch. Ok. I used to say that too in my early 20s, I am bi but I couldn't "handle all the girly stupid drama" while ignoring all the trauma dumping and gossiping dudes around me were doing. so lame.
I'm definitely here for her, I love that she used James card to buy everyone's coffee. She seems relatively down to earth for someone I assume is very rich and she just seems like a nice girl. I think we have to forgive her for collabing with creeps given that she met them as a child and was probably groomed to some extent. She's still so young, she'll see the light in time and cut them off
She’s exposing countless children to child predators for clout. It doesn’t matter if she was exploited as a kid? She still isn’t entitled to enable child abuse. Stop trying to forgive predators and the people who prop them up
The problem I have with James Charles’s voice is that he always sounds like he has a stuffy nose and needs to clear his throat. Like there’s some sinus/allergy issues going on there. Also, a $500+ throw pillow that has “Louis Vuitton” embroidered on it is ridiculous and tacky. So tacky.
I'm so glad to see you upload today! It's my birthday and I know I'm an adult and all (I turned 29 today), but I still wish I could spend the day with someone else. Now, it feels like I'm visiting you for my birthday! 😄🎉 Anyway, have a great day today, Nick and friends in the comments! 💕
Thanks for talking about child labor laws changing, companies are starting to try to be able to fire kids cause its easy to get a kid to cross a picket line.
